HulkvsTeam Thor

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BlotskyA
BlotskyA 1 mo 2 d
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Hulk as much as i like the wrecking crew & thor, thor will lose to the hulk, and the wrecking crew doesn't stand a chance
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 2 mo 6 d
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Hulk Hulk Let The Battle Begin
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 1 d
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jongensoden
jongensoden 2 mo 1 d
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Hulk Hulk already won
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 2 mo 1 d
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Hulk Exactly. Why are people here in denial?
booyah
booyah 2 mo 1 d
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Team Thor Thor beats hulk
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 29 d
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Team Thor Why exactly are you sending a link that I've already used?
@Jongen: he didn't fight them all at once and when Thor showed up he was just trying to stop Hulk (even though he never met him) had Thor have been out for green blood, Hulk would have been a goner.
I like how you 2 keep trying to use PIS but forget that that's never happened to Thor before and hasn't since then; Literally EVERY fight Thor's been in in of themselves contradict the BS that happened in comic. To say this is an accurate representation of Thor just shows a lack of knowledge on him that defines thou two. Oh, and I forgot to mention that the comic comes from Banner trying to remember what happened and even he isn't sure if he's recalling it correctly. And "this is a Hulk one shot which means Hulk has to win" there even the big guy himself answering why Hulk won and he also said this: "it has no direct consequence on current Hulk or Thor stories" So...
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 28 d
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Hulk Because the writer says when asked who would win that Hulk would. Hulk fought them one after the other which is basically the same thing.
I like how anything that doesn't go Thor's way you promise will never happen again considering it does happen again. Thor hasn't fought anyone like Hulk so you can't compare other battles.
The writer confirms this did indeed happen.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 28 d
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Team Thor Can you quote where he said Hulk would win? Fighting one after the other is not the same as fighting them all at the same time so no.
Once again you exaggerate, I've proven it won't happen again so don't whine if you can't contest it, that's the tell tail sine of a bad debater. Would you like to try and prove that that will happen again? I only say it won't happen when there is evidence for it, you have no evidence to suggest that it will happen again and you probably don't even know what evidence looks like cause you don't have any. In which comic did that happen again? Don't bring up AA #4 or Red Hulk because both circumstances are very very different.
Actually I can't because Hulk getting stronger is his one wildcard and besides that he isn't too different than the enemies Thor's been fighting for thousands of years as in his just a brawler who's bigger and heavier than he is unless you can explain how he is just remember that one wildcard doesn't make you way different from someone else. Why couldn't Hulk (or literally anyone else who's fought Thor) do that in any of his other fights with Thor? Why couldn't anyone seem to do it to Erik or Jane when they were Thor? Oh I forgot, because PIS was off.
He did not say that it did happen, he said and I quote here "I did, do something to make Thor fans feel better about it though. When it cuts back to Banner who is trying to remember what happened he says, "Yeah, right...and then I woke up." Meaning he doesn't think he's remembering the fight correctly." So...
I like how you're ignoring them saying Hulk won because it was a Hulk one shot and how it has no consequence on the current Thor vs Hulk stuff. Any rebuttal to that?
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 28 d
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Hulk Q1: "Who is stronger"
A: "So, who is stronger? Hulk!"
There was no pause in between their battle so yes he did fight them all.
The only person whining is who. Anytime Thor loses you have to try justify it as best you can instead of taking the L. I've repeatedly debunked all of those claims anyway. Happened again with Red Hulk. And Hulk did so again in 2012. Don't pretend evidence backs you when it doesn't. Not different, all relevant.
I don't know what your talking about considering Hulk has a very good track record against Thor.
Do you have proof that Hulk didn't beat Thor? Because no one, not even the writer agrees with you and he's a Thor fan.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 28 d
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Team Thor Slightly stronger doesn't equal who would win especially when your opponent is literally better than you in every other way. Bane is stronger than Batman but does he beat him every time?
Thor didn't show up till later and when he did he fought him one on one.
How do I try to justify it? All I'm doing is quoting exactly what happened in the comic while debunking your assumptions! Don't call using context "justifying Thor's loss" because you don't like it! If you want to just take scans out of context then here Thor is hyperversal meanwhile Hulk is merely ape level so with out of context scans Thor is a hyperversal god while Hulk isn't even peak human because even Batman could beat up an ape. Thy argument is now invalid. Point is context is everything so prove that I'm justifying anything! You so freaking wish you debunked them but you never did unless you can prove otherwise. You don't even have examples of that for crying out loud unless you can provide them.
Hey blind eyes I've already told you those examples are very different than HLTBB! Since you don't have the brain capacity to tell the difference (like always) I'll explain: In 2012 Hulk hit Thor when he had no way of expecting it (not when they were fighting) even then he could only land one hit with the hammer. And Red Hulk "SEPARATED" (Thor's hand was not on the hammer like it was in LTBB) Thor from Mjolnir by going to space. Both of which are so different from the point we're talking about it isn't even funny and claiming it's not makes me want to ask a question I've vowed not to ask you. Prove that they're not different when I just told you that they were and explained it to you!
Saying those examples are all the same would be like saying a snake bite is the same as a dog bite because they're both animal bites. Phew I thought you accused me of "twisting facts" (which I don't do) when you are literally doing the exact same thing. I was referring to him never being able to do that again without a surprise attack when he had no way of expecting it.
I never said Hulk didn't beat Thor, what are you on to? Quote exactly where I said that! And I like how you keep ignoring the statements that work against you. Also you're assuming things like always!
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 28 d
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Hulk Actually it does because Hulk won. Thor isn't stronger, more durable and doesn't have a better healing factor.
Thor attacked Hulk before he'd even finished with the Wrecking Crew.
Whenever something doesn't go Thor's way you always try to justify it somehow instead of accepting the obvious answer that Thor lost to the better man. Lol your the only one who assumes here mate.
I debunked everything. You claimed this would never happen to Thor again. It happened at least 2 more times with Hulk being the latest again. You can't dismiss these examples just because they don't fit your narrative. Hulk does warn Thor "Hulk not in control" and Red Hulk does so because he smarter.
Your saying another example of Hulk using Thor's hammer is as different as a snake and dog bite? Couldn't be further than the truth. Not only was Thor smashed with his own hammer, it was done by Hulk again.
Actually you were trying to say that HLTBB never really happened. Don't assume.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 27 d
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Team Thor Actually Thor is more durable as in his bones are harder to break and his skin is harder to pierce and he has several feats to prove it. I'll give you that on the HF though. Also why does the opinion of someone who's never written for Thor matter?
Still doesn't change the fact that he fought Hulk one on one and now that you mention that his fight with the Wrecking Crew was inconclusive.
Imagine not having any examples to back up your crap so you have to insist that you're right.
> can't be me.
In what world is Hulk the better person then Thor? I think we've talked about this on the team Thor vs Hulk page but I can't find it so could you send a link?
Imagine being so salty thst you have to repeat yourself because you have no examples of me "justifying" anything. Again applying context is not the same as justifying it and if you want out of context scan we can put ape level Hulk against Phoenix Force level Thor. How am I assuming anything?
That's because I haven't replied in any of those debates for reasons I've answered on your DMs. Both of those other examples are vastly different and you've yet to prove they weren't. How was Thor supposed to know Hulk was going to attack him like that? Thor is not Batman, he doesn't prepare for every possible situation. How long does it take Hulk to throw a punch anyways? If that counts as warning then why do you still say Hulk annual 2001 was a cheapshot when Thor was literally making the call lightning gesture? You're forgetting that Hulk could only land one hit with Mjolnir in that comic rather than four. Were Hulk and Thor fighting in AA #4 like they were in LTBB? Red Hulk had prep against Thor and didn't even know who he was up against.
Also if Thor's the idiot you think he is then explain this . DO YOU HAVE FREAKING BLIND EYES?!?! What comparing "RED HULK" to LTBB is like comparing a snake to a dog bite! He was hit the second time because he wasn't expecting it and even then Hulk could only land one hit with it. Show me a scan of Hulk being able to hit Thor several times WHILE they were fighting!
I was not trying to say that. I was just quoting the parts of the interview that you like to overlook now tell me what your rebuttal is to those parts.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 27 d
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Hulk No Marvel has official listed Hulk as more durable. Hulk's listed as 7 while Thor is 6. Hulk's durability goes up with his rage too, surpassing Thor even more.
Why shouldn't the writer's opinion matter? He has more authority than either of us ever will. It sounds like your only trying to dismiss him now after bringing him up in the first place because it doesn't fit your narrative.
Are you seriously doubting Hulk would beat the Wrecking Crew?
Stop calling facts crap just because you can't take an L for Thor.
Hulk said it best when Hulk corrected Thor by saying "No Win, no better, no stronger. Hulk is stronger. Hulk strongest one there is". He then goes on to prove this. This is the team Thor vs Hulk page.
I can give you examples if you want. I'm not salty, you never asked. You couldn't take the L in HLTBB, Immortal Hulk, AA 2012, Red Hulk beating him up in space etc. Bare in mind I can do the same but I don't.
You don't need a contingency plan to know when Hulk grabs your hammer and says "Hulk not in control" something's probably wrong. On Hulk Annual however Thor never says anything and had his back turned.
Wow a scan of Red Hulk not being able to lift mjolnir! Shocker!
I can't remember a time Hulk hit Thor several times because he one shots instead.
That means the fight really did happen. You tried to throw it into doubt.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 26 d
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Team Thor Where did they say that? If honestly like to see them say that.
Because he himself said "I would say" like it was just his opinion and because he's never written for Thor, an author who's never written Thor said Thor was slower than Wolverine so is he now slower than him? My example counts because he was taking about HIS COMIC and only HIS COMIC.
No, I'm just reminding you that the fight was inconclusive when Thor showed up and if PIS off Thor (who was out for green blood) was to fight the Hulk alongside the Wrecking Crew, man your god and savior is in for a world of hurt.
I was calling your assumption crap, not anything Thor did.
That wasn't "correcting" anything, Hulk was just offended by the truth and lashed out with his BS only working because Thor wasn't ready for it. By your logic of "winning a fight means you're in the right" was Thor in the right when he forcefully took over Earth and replaced Earth's culture with that of the Norse Gods? Better and stronger are not the same thing you know, you could be the Devil (before you accuse me of using RLE remember that there are numerous fictional representations of Satan) and be the second strongest thing in the multiverse but that doesn't make you better than say Batman who might not be perfect but at least he's trying and lives by a code and is trying to help people rather than kill them. I was referring to the other one you made where you quoted Hulk #300.
"I can give examples" https://youtu.be/lCscYsICvoA
AA #4: you've yet to prove thst wasn't a surprise attack
Immortal Hulk #4: Immortal Hulk gets a point there, I won't downplay it. Though you've yet to prove that Thor wasn't the weakest version of him and if you want to use Immortal Hulk you also get to use Odin Force Thor.
Red Hulk: I never that didn't count (quit assuming things) in fact I used that scan myself before. I just acknowledge the fact that Red Hulk couldn't do it without Mjolnir and that Thor won't let himself be dragged to space again which I've proven.
HLTBB: you've yet to prove this is valid, you've just proven your own bias.
I've already explained how that is not justifying so get lost unless you want to debate ape level Hulk vs Phoenix level Thor.
Actually you have done that a couple times and I have examples before you accuse me of "reflecting" and I also have like three weeks of one bad day after another to take out on you if you do.
Still doesn't change that Thor wasn't expecting that. I know you like to think Thor is omniscient and always seeing everything coming from lightyears away but even he can be caught off guard just like the rest of us. Hulk and Hulk like character are known for doing that because they want they want to do all the smashing an example being in Hulk #6 by Jeph Loeb where A-Bomb grabs Thor's hand to stop him from finishing off Red Hulk because it was the Hulk's fight. How many battles have Thor and Hulk been fighting together? If I was just talking to a dude on the street while standing behind him and then said that I wasn't in control of myself before just randomly punching them less than a second later would that mean I beat them fairly? I'm not sure if you understand this but it takes a brief amount of time and to get your guard up, and in that time you could be cheapshoted. Keep in mind that Thor's true power is Mjolnir so even if he was expecting it he would have had to get the hammer away from him and he would just call down lightning on one of his closest friends. Had they have been fighting, Thor wouldn't let the Hulk touch Mjolnir in the first place and if he did he'd let go to stop it from being used against him. Yes Thor does say something, he says "thou art finished" then he makes the call lightning gesture. Don't even bring up the position Hulk happened to be in when it hit him because if I remember Thor was also hit in the back when Hulk attacked him. And if Thor tricks him then Hulk just payed the price for not being very smart because unlike AA 4P#4 Thor and Hulk WERE FIGHTING in Hulk annual 2001.
That's an example of Thor not letting someone use Mjolnir against him. Like I said, nearly every fight Thor's been in disproves of the actions that happened in LTBB.
Hulk didn't one shot Thor there, if you pay close attention Hulk's left fist is winding up to give him another punch because that one hit with Mjolnir wasn't enough to even knock him out and Hulk was told by Thanos to KILL the Avengers meaning that even with the surprise attack he could only land ONE hit and that didn't even knock out Thor her alone kill him. Factor this in with the fact that Hulk could only do that because he caught him by surprise and we're back to my first point of HLTBB having never happened to him before nor has it happened since. Hulk landed four hits in LTBB. Like I said earlier show me a scan of these characters doing that to him WHILE THEY WERE FIGHTING!
I never said the fight didn't happen, I said it may not have happened the WAY IT WAS PRESENTED.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 26 d
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Team Thor Also why couldn't Hulk replicate that in Thor #385 where he gets really mad at Thor for using Mjolnir and wants it out of the picture? Oh I forgot because he didn't grab Thor's arm when they were not fighting and because it wasn't the second biggest PIS moments since Hulk beating a 10X amped version of someone he's constantly equal to.
You can't even use Red Hulk because not only what he did was very different from what Hulk did but Red Hulk is literally the Hulk with the skills and tactical mind of Thaddeus Ross, a general and overall tactical genius who had taken the time to study Thor while Thor literally didn't know who he was up against even mistaking him for the Bruce Banner Hulk. Such context is not applyable in a vs match and if it was we can also use a Red Hulk who didn't have a clue on who Thor was against a Thor who had spent weeks practicing specifically to combat him and learned every possible trick that could possibly be used against him and how to counter them. Point is AA #4 and Hulk #5 are false equivalents and Red Hulk is not Banner Hulk. Don't worry I will post my reply to the Rulk vs Mangog page soon enough.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 26 d
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Team Thor And I'm purposefully ignoring how the Jeph Loeb run is known for PIS moments like Rulk taking blasts from Galatus, hurting a Watcher, and my favorite: steeling Silver Surfer's board which has never been done before nor has been done since.

and the Bryan Micheal Bindis Avengers Assemble run is also known for BS stiff like in that same issue like Hawkeye and Captain America dodging attacks from someone who can catch the Silver Surfer as well as injured the Hulk. If you want to use that you also have to acknowledge Hawkeye of all superheroes hurting Hulk and Captain America dodging attacks from him.

To clarify: I do not think those examples are PIS but I'm able to argue that if need be.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 25 d
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Hulk It'll be near the bottom of the page
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Bruce_Banner_(Earth-616)
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Thor_Odinson_(Earth-616)
The writer made it a reality that Hulk will beat Thor.
My god and savoir is neither Hulk nor Thor. However past fights show Thor doesn't do well against Hulk.
Lol Hulk was offended by the truth? Hulk went on to beat Thor down with his own weapon to prove him wrong. It's somehow PIS when Hulk hits Thor but it's somehow not when Thor hits Hulk???
I did prove AA 2012 wasn't too much of a surprise. Hulk tells him before he strikes. I will admit it's not the cleanest fight though.
Odin force Thor hasn't fought Hulk. If you want to use him we can use Cosmic Immortal Hulk.
Rulk is comparable to Hulk who's already beaten Thor so it's an assumption to say Rulk can''t win without mjolnir or space.
HLTBB is arguably the best example because the fight has an ending and a clear winner. Somehow it makes me biased for using evidence then.
Your telling me to get lost because you want to use ape Hulk (whatever that is) vs Phoenix Thor. Interesting how you need to use the most powerful Thor to stand a chance against Hulk where as Hulk doesn't need these buffs.
Never said Thor's omniscient.
Hulk does not like smashing for the sake of it. It's usually a means to get away from his pursuers. A-Bomb only stopped Thor because he knew who Rulk was so needed Hulk to beat him.
Things are different in comics. There's no mind control in the real world. Hulk was still able to one shot because one hit was needed. Hulk went for the second hit because Thanos wanted to kill or maim him.
None of this contradicts HLTBB. You only think it's PIS because Hulk won. What makes that battle different is that it was allowed to finish.
Hulk could take them all on because fighting the WC would make Hulk angry enough to beat Thor.
Actually without mjolnir Hulk was proven stronger.
Again you keep calling things that don't go Thor's way PIS. Hulk has a very good track record against Thor so it makes sense.

Galactus has blasted Hulk before so blasting Rulk isn't PIS. Rulk punching a (young) Watcher just shows how much of a legend he is. Rulk can steal cosmic energy so that make sense.
Hawkeye hurting Hulk isn't PIS either. Cap can't dodge forever.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 11 d
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Team Thor Are you kidding me!?!? Fandom is not official, it can be edited by pretty much anyone, if I edited that site I could say Thor's GodBlast is strong enough to kill TLT, doesn't mean it's true. Besides there's a lot of misinterpreted/downplayed facts on both Hulk and Thor's pages which I could elaborate on I'd you need. If you want to use that they give Thor a 7 which means he's equal to the Hulk.
I'll send the list of stuff that works against that notion in a few but right now I'm just gonna say this: if you think one comic for two 70 year old characters is a voice for both then I swear there's something wrong with you. If he said Thor was stronger that wouldn't count either because he's never written for Hulk (outside of that comic) either. In fact Jason Aaron (who has written a lot for Thor and has even written a comic with three Thor's working together) believes Thor to be stronger (which is supported by feats) but I haven't used it yet because Aaron has never written for Bruce Banner Hulk. Also prove that JBS is a power scaler and/or that he's not just speaking out of his own opinion if you wanna count it.
By "doesn't do well" you mean he consistently fights evenly with him and even as his superior a couple times. The only reason Thor "hasn't beaten the Hulk" is because you deny all his wins with [email protected] excuses as you force him to operate under double standards; I have examples of that if you need proof that you can't take an L and I have a bunch of misery to take out on you if you accuse me of reflecting. Funny, you say I can't take an L just because I debunk your exaggerations. I can give you Thor's wins with my debunks of your sorry excuses to dismiss them. Why do you get to dismiss all of Thor's wins but I'm not allowed to do the same when I've proven no I'm not just intentionally justifying Thor's losses? I call hypocrisy (for the one trillionth time).
Yes he was, why else would he have gotten angrier? When did you become deluded enough to think that winning a fight now proves that you're right? By your logic was Thanos in the MCU right about half the universe needing to diebecause he won every fight in that movie? I already disproved that notion and this makes me want to ask that question to you even more ams makes me wonder if you're a bully in real life because you seem to think that cause I can find plenty of bullies who relate/directly compare himself to the Hulk. Now prove that Hulk is a better person than Thor because I clearly remember disproving that long story short: all you did was post two out of context sins of Thor's and claimed it was consistent when all you could find was two examples in Thor's 2307 appearances. And explain how winning a fight means you're right because I can tell you that ain't true.
Tell me when you realize the difference between what Thor did and what Hulk did. Did Thor hit Hulk in a way that was contradicted by 70 years of publications for Thor? Thor has 2307 appearances and you're telling me that at very best all you can't find are three (easily debunked and vastly different) "examples" if you can even call it that.
No you didn't, all you prove is how inconsistent you are with Thor. That quote could have meant anything. It's not Thor's fault he's not omniscient. Try looking at this as if you were Thor rather than as the all knowing reader and tell me what you would have done if you were Thor with only his knowledge of the situation. You're still ignoring that Hulk could only even grab Mjolnir because Thor was distracted meaning that comic doesn't even reflect Hulk's ability to grab Mjolnir while they're fighting. And since you just said that it wasn't the cleanest of fights, concession excepted.
Oh come on! If the Hulk was as strong as you think he is then why do you feel the need to use a Hulk empowered by the second most powerful character in the franchise? This has happened before when you tried to use Worldbreaker on me then I mentioned OFT and you lied when you said I tried to use OFT when all I need in the first place is not jobbing, unrestrained Unworthy Thor W/O armor to do battle with the Hulk and you're trying to use more powerful Hulks to save yourself.
Hulk usually gets the upper hand on Thor because of his healing and ability to improve; does Ross Hulk have either of those? If not then the question is really who is faster and stronger. And you're still ignoring the fact that is being above Thor doesn't make you anywhere near Mangog who is also far above him.
There's just one small problem with that comic that you keep ignoring: Hulk literally only won because it was a Hulk one shot which they said in that interview meaning even they know it's non-accurate representation of how the fight would go down. Also if this is such an accurate representation of Hulk beating Thor then why has no one else been able to do that? Also why do we keep ignoring that comic has an unreliable narrator coming from a secondary source with even Bruce believing that he isn't remembering the fight correctly? Because of that why wouldn't it make you bias when Thor and Hulk have numerous other fights that you could be using.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 11 d
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Team Thor Are you freaking blind!? I said Phoenix LEVEL Thor and posted an out of context scan of him harming the Phoenix Force, ape level Hulk was a OFC scan of Hulk being harmed by an ape. You lied when saying that I "justify" anything when in actuality all I do is bring context into your out of contact scans and if you want to go down the rout of OFC scans then we can use what I just posted. I don't need Phoenix King Thor, all I need is Unworthy Thor and when you try to save yourself with Worldbreaker or Immortal, all I then need is OF Thor. And if Hulk doesn't need any of those buffs then why do you feel the need to use TOBA Hulk who is empowered by the second strongest character in the franchise? It's Thor fights more powerful enemies and doesn't need such amps!
Well you act like he is. Like I said earlier try looking at this as if you were Thor with only an in universe knowledge of the situation. It makes perfect sense that he wouldn't have seen it coming after all how many times has Hulk turned on him fight with another enemy?
I know but he still does to to enemies like Thanos who is pretty much as evil as you get in Marvel without being an actual demon. And A-Bomb was just an example of a Hulk doing that to Thor and not hitting him to help prove that Thor wouldn't have been expecting it then because Hulks never turned on him during a fight with the other Avengers.
Do you have proof that Hulk one shotted him? Once again I see an assumption which you (hypocritically) hate. Also if Hulk could have kept using Mjolnir then why did Hulk use his fist after that one hit? Do you realize how much easier life is with the Hammer of the Gods?

Here's some examples of Thor getting out of the situation to disprove your point:

1: Indestructible Hulk Gods and Monsters: "THE HULK" catches Mjolnir as it flies back to Thor and Thor let's go before Hulk can do anything

2: Hulk #26 by Jeph Leob: same as above. Keep in mind that Red Hulk

3: AvX #4: Emma Frost (who wants nothing more than to humiliate Thor) catches Mjolnir mid swing and Thor literally slaps her to daze her then shatters her with a hammer swing.

4: The Mighty Thor #3: Silver Surfer catches Mjolnir mid swing and Thor headbutts him to send him flying backwards.

5: The Mighty Thor #600: Bor catches Mjolnir and throws it away. Keep in mind that Bor was under the illusion that Thor killed Odin so he was bloodlusted.

6: Thor volume 4 #7 by Jason Aaron: the Destroyer Armor grabs Mjolnir while Thor's (Jane Thor btw) is still holding onto it and has to wrestle it away from her before it can use it against her.
7: Thor King Sized Annual 8: Zeus (who has a huge ego and would have blast humiliating Thor just like he did to Hulk) grabs Mjolnir while Thor holds onto it and since he can't use it against him, he buries Thor in a bunch of rubble which Thor easily recovers from.

8: Defenders #4 by Stan Lee: Thor matches "HULK'S" strength for an entire hour with "HULK" unable to improve his way out of it and certainly not able to hit him with Mjolnir despite having arm on Thor's weapon arm for an HOUR! And the fight was broken up by Dr Strange, no fault of Thor's. Do you realize how long an hour is? Especially for those operating at billions of times the speed of light!

9: Captain Marvel #17: Thanos catches Mjolnir with TK and Thor makes it drop to the ground then summons it back to his hand before the Mad Titan can do anything with it.


Yield I have more than 3 times the examples you have for that BS working on him and since I actually know Thor it's time to forfeit this point since your two other examples of Thor being hit with Mjolnir have been proven as different meaning that what I said earlier was right. You still haven't shown any rebuttals the the facts about HLTBB that go against you which I can give examples of if you need. The fact that I have to prove this to you should show a lack of knowledge on your part. Also everything I just mentioned was off the top of my head I'm sure if I did some digging that I could find more.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 10 d
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Hulk The site had Hulk at a higher level not equal to Thor.
Hulk's been around longer than Thor and he's always shown himself superior. You're trying to undermine what Hulk was created as.
Now you just nitpicking about this writer. You brought him up when it suited you and now your dismissing him again because he doesn't back you anymore.
Thor can hold Hulk off but he will inevitably lose (just like that writer said). It's actually Hulk who has the upper hand because he wins.
Wrong again. I've debunked your Thor wins with facts. I can take an L. What are you on about? It's just that in this case Hulk is stronger.
Thor claimed he was better. He was clearly wrong because not only did Hulk overpower him, he did so with is own weapon. Even more humiliation. You've made a huge jump there. We were talking about HLTBB. How'd I suddenly become a bully in real life? Bare in mind you yourself admitted you relate to the Hulk of all people. I meant Hulk's better in that he beats Thor.
HLTBB does the opposite. Hulk overpowering Thor like he did would be contradictory to who Hulk was. Also Thor hasn't been around for 70 years. Hulk came first and even he hasn't around that long.
Doesn't matter he still lost fairly. He wasn't distracted, he was facing Hulk. I meant AA 2012 wasn't a clean win for Hulk. HLTBB was one of the best.
Only because you keep wanting to use RKT. If you want to up the ante that's fine. If you don't like it don't bring it up.
Hulk only won because it's a one-shot? A win's a win bro. When I tried to use this same on you when referring to the Reigning you denied it. Can't have it both ways. Why has no one else done so? Because no one is like Hulk. Conveniently if the writer shows Hulk (rightfully) winning he's no longer reliable. Double standards much.
As I've shown in this answer you do justify anything that doesn't go Thor's way. If he loses to Hulk, the writer's biased. If Thor loses, it's all PIS and he's weakened. It all sounds too convenient when you do it every time. Your lying by saying I'm lying. Lol Unworthy Thor loses even worse. Like I said I only bring up CIS when you bring up RKT and others.
Never assumed. All I see are reflections.
They weren't fighting in Indestructible Hulk. Thor just wanted to prove Hulk's not worthy. Rulk wasn't trying to fight either.
You mean Defenders #10 not #4. Hulk wasn't really getting angry. Since then by Mighty Thor #385 also written by Stan Lee the comic shows Hulk as physically stronger. No fault of Thor? He was never going to win anyway.
I know Thor very well and I can tell you that attack was fine. They're different circumstances to HLTBB. Hulk got stronger and attacked Thor before he could react. Get over it. It's happened before and it'll happen again.
Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 1 mo 2 d
Hulk vs Team Thor
Team Thor All 5 win.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 2 d
Hulk vs Team Thor
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Hulk @Dusk_Pikachu Read Hulk Let The Battle Begin
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 11 m
Hulk vs Team Thor
1 year member
Team Thor No, it says both are sevens in strength.
I could make an essay of scaling and feats to disagree with that but I don't want this comment to be too long and you're going to find BS ways to dismiss it. I know why Hulk was created, he was created to be a monster who was actually the good guy. How does that translate to him supposedly beating someone who slaughters ENTIRE ARMIES of monsters even without Mjolnir while laughing and having fun? Also if you want to bring up Stan Lee let us remember why he created Thor. I find it very hypocritical that you've dismissed Stan Lee stating the fact that Thor beats Hulk in favor of an idiot who's never written for the character. Why is that? Why do you get to dismiss Stan Lee, the man who created the Hulk but then get on my tail for reminding you that JBS doesn't have the authority over a 60+ year long rivalry? I'm betting that you'll dismiss Stan Lee again in your reply. Or how about the time you dismissed Nick Gillard and George Lucas just because you want to think Obi is above the Chosen One? And you expect me to agree with some nobody who wrote a single one shot and nothing else for either character.
No rebuttal I see nor explanation for why one guy is now a voice for a 70 year old characters. You want me to counterbalance this with Jason Aaron's opinion because I don't mind? Check mate. If you want to invite him to this site and have him debate on on power scaling Id be honored to debate an official writer. I already told you why my example was different and if you can't tell the difference then you're not even worth my time debating. The only reason I brought him up was because you keep making up BS you can't prove like Hulk speed blitzed someone who's faster than him or that he overpowered someone who wasn't fighting back and then couldn't prove that Thor was trying to resist it, in fact I hate that explanation he gave and feel like it was just desperation on his part. The reason I hate it is because he acts like Thor's enemies are terrible fighters because they didn't try the most obvious thing to do. I swear when I was reading his reason for why that happened I asked myself "man how [email protected] does he think Thor is because he thinks he'll become stunned just because someone touched his arm." Ask yourself a question: if I've known about the interview for as long as I did then why did I wait so long before I sent it to you? It's because even I don't fully agree with it, only bringing it up to stop your assumptions you continue to make. That may be true unless he can take Hulk down before he gets angry which he can.
How so?
PFFFTTTT 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😃😄🤣🤣😂😂😂😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣HAHAHAHA! I swear to god you may have cured my depression right their because of how BS that claim is. You never "debunked them with facts" you made the lamest and stupidest excuses to dismiss them, in fact you seem to dismiss everything that doesn't go your way which I can prove if you need. Do I need to send my Thor wins with the debunks for your BS? I have no problem doing so because some of these were actually pretty funny. If you can take an L then why can't you except any of Thor's wins? You still don't get it do you? BEATING. SOMEONE. UP. DOES. NOT. MAKE. YOU. A. BETTER. PERSON. By your logic I guess Thanos is the best person who ever lived because he killed billions if not trillions or even more with the snap that destroyed half of the entire universe. I never said that you are a bully, I asked if you were and that's because you seem to think you're a better person than someone because you beat them up. Don't put words in my mouth, I said I related to him because I like to be left alone and I'm not exactly the calmest person on this planet, I meant bullies relate to him because he solves all his problems by punching someone.
You know something? I've asked for proof that Thor was fighting back numerous times and you've never given, you've only blamed me of BS that either I don't do or stuff you do as well then you accuse me of reflecting when I call out a hypocrite, so please prove that Thor was fighting back if you want to say he was overpowered. Now what's your rebuttal to the fact that Hulk only even got a chance because Thor stopped fighting and tried to talk him down and if he kept going he would have won? "Thor hasn't been around for 70 years" ahem yes he has.
If it wasn't a clean win then why do you still count it yet dismiss Hulk Annual 2001 just because of the angle the lightning hit him? On this page I've proven it was cleaner than your Avenger Assemble #4. I've already told you why that comic isn't the best so get lost if you don't have a counter for those points.
Let us remember who keeps trying to use Immortal Hulk beating the weakest version of Thor as a voice for both characters. It's you, you are the one who keeps trying to use that. If you want the most powerful version of Hulk you do the same for Thor, if you want to use late Aaron run Thor then you use Bruce Banner before he was hit by the gamma bomb. The only reason Immortal Hulk counts is because he constantly scales above Thor, not because he beat jobber Thor.
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Dark_Wing
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Hulk vs Team Thor
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Team Thor Actually it does because PIS is still PIS, if "a win is a win" then I think it's time to bring up how many people who scale lightyears beneath Thor yet they still beat Hulk. You never said that for The Reigning, you said it wasn't canon then dismissed it because it didn't go your way. You have no evidence that Thor only won in The Reigning because it was a one shot. In fact The Reigning was not even a one shot for crying out loud, it was a five part storyline that is part of an even bigger run. Nice false equivalents right their. Now you're just desperately grasping at straws, I've already explained why I can use Thor's other showings and the real reason that's never happened I'd because PIS was off. Riddle me this: why hasn't Hulk been able to do that again (ignoring when he grabbed Thor while he was distracted) to Thor or any of the weapon wielding enemies who have been directly compared to Thor like Hercules, Ares, and Executioner? Do you realize how devastating turning their own weapons against them would be since they use axes? Now please prove that this isn't PIS and give a darn good reason for such. Hey Thick Head I'm not sure how many times I'll have to explain it to you before you actually listen. The reason it's not reliable is because of HOW IT HAPPENED! If you think you know me or how I debate based on one example then there must be something wrong with you.
No, all I see is you getting salty that you couldn't disprove Thor being injured in Fear Itself or being a depowered jobber in Immortal Hulk #4. Man my house may actually flood with the ocean of salty tears. I already gave you Immortal Hulk, Red Hulk, and more as valid so what now? I can give you examples of Thor losing that are valid because it made sense if you want. What do you say? I already slaughtered your claim like a youngling so quit accusing me of stuff I don't do!
And I only bring up those Thor's because you conveniently need the strongest version of Hulk vs the weakest Thor just to get your way. You so freaking wish.
"Never assumed"
Recently you've assumed:
1: I somewhere said "Hulk wasn't holding back in the Green Scar storyline" when all I asked was how much so.
2: I somewhere said Red Hulk beating up Thor in space "wasn't fair" when the only reason I mentioned it was because using Mjolnir against Thor is impressive but not as impressive as what the Destroyer Armor did to him or what Mangog did to the Destroyer Armor.
3: Thor was fighting back in HLTBB
4: Thor was speed blitzed in that same comic
5: "the only reason I call this PIS is because Thor lost" despite how many times I've explained this to you.
6: I always say things are PIS when they don't go my way based on like two or three examples you could find out of the year and a half I've been posting comments for.
Any other BS that I've forgotten? Oh and the assumption you made was that Hulk one shotted Thor but don't have a sliver of evidence for it. You've also been unable to explain why he didn't use the hammer a second time given Thanos wanted the Avengers dead ASAP and life becomes much easier with Mjolnir.
Thor wasn't really fighting either and was clowning around a lot yet he still escaped that situation. Red Hulk was trying to defend himself and couldn't even get the hammer off the ground before Thor let go meaning he did get out of the Red Hulk situation aswell.
Any proof that Hulk wasn't angry? I didn't say Hulk was getting stronger, I said he "seemingly couldn't improve his way out of it" nonetheless this is besides the point, the point is in both of those especially Thor #385, Hulk was unable to use Mjolnir against him because PIS was off. Also wasn't Thor #385 written by Walter Simonson, not Stan Lee?
"I know Thor very well" PFFFTTTT 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😃😄🤣🤣😂😂😂😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣HAHAHAHA! You have consistently proven the exact opposite which I have plenty of examples of. How the he'l are they different circumstances or did you just make that up out of a lack of rebuttal? How [email protected] do you think I am to actually believe that lie? If you "know Thor very well" then explain to me why Hulk grabbing his hand mid swing and hitting him with it repeatedly with no resistance from Thor is "fine?" I could randomly say Harry Potter is my favorite franchise but it doesn't change the fact that I've consistently shown a lack of knowledge on the verse as well as straight up bias against it. Once again you change your argument to Hulk speed blitzing Thor, you have absolutely ZERO evidence on that and it was likely just an assumption you made out of desperation to make this valid. I answered the claim on your profile page. Make up your mind did Hulk overpower someone who wasn't fighting back or did he speed blitz someone who's faster than him? Why is it that you always change your argument yet claim I'm losing when I haven't needed to once.
"It's happened before and it'll happen again." Based on what evidence other than Red Hulk, a vastly different character doing a vastly different trick and Hulk grabbing Thor's arm while he was distracted and out of nowhere slamming it into him in a run that is know for PIS? Also why is it that you could only find at best 3 examples out of a 70 year old character with thousands of appearances?
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Tyrannus
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Hulk Hulk could also do those things. He wouldn't laugh while doing so because that just sounds weird and Hulk doesn't enjoy hurting people, he just wants to be left alone so I'll give Thor that. We've already seen without Mjolnir Hulk was clearly better.
This proves my point that you call anything that doesn't go Thor's way PIS. If the writer does good for Thor he's alright but if Hulk wins it's PIS. Stan Lee wrote The Mighty Thor #385 and even in his own comic it was established Hulk was stronger. When writing stories for Marvel the writer can't just impose their bias. They have to get consent, they have editors and the story gets written many times before it releases. Even ignoring that JBS said he loved both so you just sound desperate here.
Not sure why your referencing a debate you weren't apart of but I did actually show how George Lucas himself had Obi-Wan beat Anakin. He wrote, directed and produced ROTS. They say George has almost the only say in the making of the prequels and if that's true that reinforces my point.
Can you name the Jason Aaron comic that shows Thor beating Hulk then? What's that? You can't. Oh well. Hulk has other wins over Thor too which back up HLTBB.
What example was different?
Hulk is faster and stronger than people realise. Thor had been fighting back. No one said he got stunned my touching his arm, Hulk was just faster and stronger.
The interview helped me and hindered you so that's probably why. Till this day Thor hasn't been able to beat Hulk without BFR. All I see are reflections. It's like talking to a mirror.
Difference is Hulk's beaten Thor at least 4 times while Thor hasn't (without BFR).
Thor literally tried to do the same thing after he thought he won. I guess Thor's a bully considering he starts most fights.
Thor was fighting. Just because you don't throw punches at the exact same time as your opponent doesn't mean their "stunned". By your logic Hulk wasn't fighting back EVERY TIME Thor's hit him.
You don't calm someone down by attacking them (unprovoked) then gloating in their face.
Couldn't find Thor and not even sure that was a Marvel comic.
I still count Hulk Annual as a win for Thor it's just not a clean win either. The lightening hit him from behind.
I've barely referenced Immortal Hulk #4 at all. I believe you did before me. And that wasn't the weakest version of Thor at all. I thought you knew Thor.
I only bring up CIS when you try using RKT. At least I compare it to Thor's strongest forms. You keep trying to use the weakest versions of Hulk against the strongest Thor. Are you that insecure about how much better Hulk is that you need to nerf him as much as possible to stand a chance?
The Reigning while canon doesn't count because writers knew it's be reverted anyway so were allowed to do whatever. There are moments like that for Hulk too.
Hulk doesn't need to beat others the exact same way he beat Thor. It's not PIS because it makes sense. Hulk gets stronger. Your just in denial. He's beaten him without mjolnir too you know. Don't call me thick head. Insults are a sign or a losing argument.
You called me salty but claimed you'll cry salty tears???
All those assumptions were debunked before so I won't repeat myself.
Immortal Hulk #4. He one shots Thor.
In AA 2012 Hulk able to get over the mind control eventually. That's why he didn't kill Thor.
I know Thor wasn't really fighting back in Indestructible Hulk which is why I said THEY.
Only because Rulk wasn't even fighting back.
No one, not even the writer of HLTBB said that Hulk is worthy.
Stan Lee did write Mighty Thor #385.
I've already shown in this answer you don't know Thor as well as you think.
Hulk doing what he did in HLTBB was fine because he was faster and stronger. Once you understand that 80% of this debate is over.
Lol not desperation, facts. Hulk's always been able to keep up with the fastest beings in comics and has even outran mjolnir which moves at lightspeed. Thor may have faster raw speed but Hulk has the best reaction speed.
I've never changed my argument.
Rulk isn't that different to Hulk and Hulk has gone on to beat Thor since.
Dark_Wing
Hulk vs Team Thor
1 year member
Team Thor Yeah, once but that was only ONCE! I have several examples, several > one.
"You call anything that doesn't go Thor's way PIS" Is that why I've offered to make an ENTIRE LIST of Thor losses that count because they made sense?! You're getting it wrong like always. Notice I didn't bring up WoG until you tried to use the option of some guy as an authority over a 70 year old character and even then I only brought it up to show how hypocritical you are. I've said this before and I'll say it again: The only reason you count his opinion is because you agree with it, had he have said Thor was stronger then you'd dismiss him just like you've dismissed Nick Gillard and Stan Lee.
Can you prove that Thor #385 was written by Stan Lee because I thought it was written by Tom DeFalco? "Writers can't just impose there bias editors watch over what they do" so I guess Hulk is now only Captain America and Spider-Man level because he lost to them. Marvel editors don't do crap! They've made a lot of weird stuff count, this is just one of the examples. This excuse you give itself can also be attributed to the Reigning storyline, here I quote directly from you: "can't have it both ways." Already answered on your profile page
"Name an Aaron comic of Thor beating Hulk" God of Thunder #16. It was a monster who was explicitly stated to have the strength of Hulk and young Thor one shotted it. I've already told this to you and you dismissed it in favor of anti feats because that what you always do when you can't disprove something. If you want to go down that rout Hulk doesn't scale to Thor or Silver Surfer, he scales to Spider-Man and Ironman.
I can't do what? That's when you're using lame excuses to dismiss stuff that doesn't go your way. Excuse me how do those other wins back up the notion that Hulk can just grab Thor's arm and beat him into a pulp with it with no resistance from Thor whatsoever?
You example of trying to use some guy as an authority over a rivalry that existed long before he was born and will exist long after he bites the dust and me using an example of him talking about his comic and only his comic.
So is Thor. Any proof that he was and that Hulk was faster or are you just assuming?
Did you just call JBS nobody!?!? I swear you just did!
Excuse me how did it do either of those? And how am I "reflecting" anything?
Lame excuses for the win.
No, Thor didn't even want to fight in the firstplace, he Explicitly gave Hulk a chance to surrender before putting him on his knees and another one once he was on his knees. Also unreliable narrator.
Already answered the "fighting back" claim on your profile page.
Go look again, since you're blind here's a scan
Already answered that claim on the Thor vs Hulk page.
Scroll up and see for yourself. Then what is the weakest version of Earth 616 Thor? Need me to prove that I know Thor? I find it hypocritical that you claim that I don't know Thor when you've consistently proven the exact same thing. At least I don't try to use Thor empowered by the SECOND STRONGEST CHARACTER IN A FRANCHISE! Tell me what chance Thor had against someone who's equal to TOAA? No I didn't, I said and I quote here "If you want the most powerful version of Hulk you do the same for Thor, if you want to use late Aaron run Thor then you use Bruce Banner before he was hit by the gamma bomb." Does that sound like I'm trying to use the weakest version of Hulk? I didn't think so rendering the rest of the essay irrelevant.
Do you have any proof of what you just said about the comic or is it just wishful of you hoping that's the case which it's not? If anything you just explained why it should count, because of the intent of the comic. Had Hulk have won you would probably have counted it but because Thor won you dismissed it with claims you can't prove. What examples like that for Hulk?
Actually he does because if it's only happened once and it's contradicted by everything else then guess what? It's PIS. Being slightly stronger doesn't mean that makes sense by your logic Bane is WAY stronger than Batman doesn't mean Bane grabbing his arm while it holds a Batarang and using it to slit Bruce's throat with no resistance from Bruce "make sense." You have no evidence to suggest that I'm "in denial" another assumption added to the list. Like I said, those examples count because they make sense. I only called you that because you constantly make claims even after they're disproved unless you have evidence that "the only reason I call this PIS is because Thor lost" then get lost yourself.
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Dark_Wing
Hulk vs Team Thor
1 year member
Team Thor I said that my house may flood with YOUR ocean of tears.
Excuse me, when have you disproved those? That was a new list that I made because you accused me of reflecting.
Oh, you want to go down that route...okay I guess I can mention that at any time from anywhere, Thor can send a GodBlast in the direction of our solar system and atomize Hulk with it or whenever Bruce Banner and Thor are on Earth at the same time, Thor could just punch him to Mars. Still not seeing a rebuttal nor answer to why Hulk could only land one hit with the hammer and he could only grab it in the first place because Thor was distracted and could only use it against him because Thor wasn't expecting an ally to attack him; I got a question: if you were just talking to a friend on the street would you be expecting them to randomly punch you out of nowhere? Of course not; why would Thor be expecting it? The reason I say this is because you brought up this comic as an "example" of Hulk being able to grab Thor's arm and use it against him, which I've solidly ripped apart unless you have an actual rebuttal (that isn't assuming Thor can see every possible outcome of any situation from lightyears away) admit defeat.
What makes you think that Red Hulk wasn't fighting back? Of course he was fighting back! The last time him and Thor met, they were fighting and Rulk thought Thor would have killed him and Steve said Thor may have not heard the whole message; so why wouldn't he have tried to take him to space? Therefore if Thor attacked his options would be limited without Mjolnir in zero gravity. Ross didn't even need to hit him, just disarm him in space. Saying Rulk wasn't fighting back is an assumption in of itself.
Excuse me how did you show that "I don't know Thor as well as I think?" Again another lie to add to your list of lies. How desperate are you now that you have to claim that I don't know my favorite character?
And once you prove that Hulk was faster then we can use this, until then its little more than another assumption added to your long list of assumptions. Hulk has already tried to and failed to speed blitz Thor while Thor's back was turned; what makes you think he'll do it now?
Do you have any proof of that or is that all just more wishful thinking on your part? Prove that Mjolnir was moving full speed, just because you can dodge a gently thrown baseball from me doesn't mean you can dodge a speed of light fastball thrown by Doomsday. Light speed is cannon fodder to Thor based on his feats and Thor's also kept up with the fastest people in comics.
What the he'l do you mean "he isn't much different from Hulk?" Personally wise and tactically he's vastly different.

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