Who is the best debater on this website.

I think you skipped a number!

Thanks!

@Mr_Incognito well Dhruv and Tyrannus are tied so that would be 2 and 3

users like @Mr_Incognito and @Atemporal are already denunked Tahsin.

1.well this is my own opinion
2.@Atemporal only uses abuses than scans and he is the Worst debater in this website he never debunked @Tahsin
3.Never see him and @Mr_Incognito debating because I am new (because I have logged in this website for four months but I didn't know that I login so I am only active on 20 days )and if they debate @tahsin would probably debunk him just the way he debunks all the fanboys of dc

@Tahsin already debunked him at the of comment of @TheNemianLion below see this he and @Mr_incognito debating

No he didn’t 😂 he just took a bunch of high end feats out of context for the hulk and then cherrypicked Dr fate scans that agreed with him.

@Mr_Incognito he is somewhere debunked u and who is downvoting ,everybody is telling someone best debater U also tell so what is wrong with that

Speak English.

Can you please be civil? That’s all I ask.

What I do wrong can you tell me? and did I write Spanish

English please!

Wtf Did I speak Spanish

Well I was going to say "Thank You" but this turned into a debate

So humble.😅

Humility didn't get me to the top dad. Being the biggest bully on planet Earth did. ;)

I suppose it helps when your father's the creator of this site.

Weird list but ok

@Savage Sorry. Who are you?

@Tyrannus I mean it's like this bro. Dad never taught me how to debate. He doesn't even really debate like that on here. He's a fantastic website builder though.

Okay Nemian, you know I'm better than rarely 🤪

Eeeeeh. You have your good moments. ;)

@Tyrannus Really? I mean if the father of TheNemianLion created this site then can you tell me who is the father of NemianLion

The creator of this site is @Galactus

@TheNemianLion likes to act like he's the king here. Please this isn't no government here on this site.

He’s a bigger Hulk stan than all the others put together. This guy really argued that Hulk beats Dr. Fate lmao.

Stop attacking people for being fans or Hulk. Very hypocritical from DC's biased fan

The fact you get emotional so easily is very telling. Chill out.

I've actually been calm this whole time considering you've been making passive aggressive attacks on me and others who vote Hulk. Buts its funny that you of all people would tell me to chill out

My moments are good most of time I want them to be good.

It's okay Tyrannus. The nature of most people who don't know better is antagonising. Pay no mind to them. You're better than them.

@Mr_Incognito Well savage hulk will gonna crush doctor fate. Hulk is so strong that even shaper of world's can't control his madness ,,,

@Tyrannus Ok

Fate fought the unbound Spectre to a draw, that's small potatoes.

@Mr_Incognito Unbounded spectre did this to doctor fate , and spectre is just a fodder whom even black adam can violate him., and shaper of world's is billion times more powerful than these fodders. So hulk will stomp this fate.
2. Also hulk shakes infinite dimensions ,and in marvel dimensions are separate universes.
3. Hulk's strength is infinite ,
3. Also pre retcon beyonder told that hulk's power is infinite. And that was the main purpose of pre retcon beyonder to come to hulk , so yeah hulk stomps this types of fodder.

That was inza, not Kent Nelson. Black Adam is literally a speck of dust in comparison to Spectre, he lets people hurt him. Doctor fate was thrown through infinite dimensions without a scratch. Hulk is fodder compared to spectre. Spectre is the living tribunal of DC, Hulk gets godstomped. Fate would just wave his hand and erase Hulk from existence.

😂😂😂😂😂. Spectre is a brat who struggles against shazam,
2. Well spectre is not even close to living tribunal.
3.Your favourite spectre and doctor fate are fodder compared to shaper of world's and pre retcon beyonder . So hulk will surely crush him.

Lmfao Spectre is literally outerversal and is the embodiment of god’s wrath. He is the presence’s right hand and has some of his power. Shazam wasn’t hurting him whatsoever.
Unbound Spectre is.
Get your head out of your ass. Unless you think Hulk can beat the goddamn beyonder, you don’t have a case to make. And please stop using the word fodder. I bet you don’t even know what it means, you’ve just seen other people use it. Stop spreading misinformation.

This is what I can expect from you. You have no arguments against me and that's why you have started disrespecting. Cool. By the way what do you think as yourself? imao😂😂😂. I know what does the word fodder mean. But I think you don't know that imao😂😂😂😂😂 Wrath of god? Oh are you kidding me? Your wrath of god got his ass killed by rox ogama who already lost his powers, and the same rox ogama got killed by a bunch of green lanterns imao😂😂😂😂 what a shame🐵, so stop spreading wrong information. And what's wrong with you ? Now please don't say doctor fate will gonna kill someone like shaper of world's or pre retcon beyonder imao😂😂. Again being outerversal will not gonna make you most powerful. Also spectre is not even outerversal. I don't know why people overrate him.

Wtf 🤡🤡🤡🤡 https://www.superherodb.com/mandrakk/10-19590/comments/ look here, superman used miracle machina, mandrakk was going to lose regardless who attacks him and it wasn't green lanterns who attacked him, entire army of god was there to battle too

Also that spectre is crispus allen a.k.a weakest spectre (radiant=unbound spectre so killing her is a good feat btw)

Mandrakk one shot Marvel

Well rox ogama was exiled and he had lost all powers that a normal monitor has , so getting stomped by a monitor who already lost his powers is proving how weak spectre is in reality. Also, on panel it was clearly showed that Hal Jordan and other green lanterns together killed rox ogama.

"Mandrakk one shot Marvel" - Black widow one shots dc.😊

The dying god was Darkseid who was dying in the comic, as he was mortally wounded.

"The dying god was Darkseid who was dying in the comic, as he was mortally wounded."

This is darkseid , and this issue is final crisis#7. So that means darkseid was alive.

I forgot about that, yet the Spectre and the Radiant were only defeated but not killed and that "Essence" thing I think is from a different comic.

If they are not killed then why they were lying on the floor like a dead person.🤔

>Well rox ogama was exiled and he had lost all powers that a normal monitor has,so getting stomped by a monitor who already lost his powers is proving how weak spectre is in reality. Also, on panel it was clearly showed that Hal Jordan and other green lanterns together killed rox ogama.

No, he was way weaker than nil monitors, he hadn't had any power left, he lost because miracle machine which uses element x as fuel, the purest form of existance itself, element x is capable of overcomig everything in dark multiverse, making it a great counter for mandrakk, who embodies all the evil concepts, mandrakk would still lose if a 10-b human tackled him, green lanterns killing him is irrelevant, stop spamming that arguement already

>"The dying god was Darkseid who was dying in the comic, as he was mortally wounded."
no, god in fc was used for yahweh, it is very obvious, "god's army" "god's servants"
Crispus allen himself low key admits yahweh is dead in final crisis revelations
radient says god has abandoned them
radient herself says she can't die unless yahweh dies you know the rest lmao

"No, he was way weaker than nil monitors, he hadn't had any power left, he lost because miracle machine which uses element x as fuel, the purest form of existance itself, element x is capable of overcomig everything in dark multiverse, making it a great counter for mandrakk, who embodies all the evil concepts, mandrakk would still lose if a 10-b human tackled him, green lanterns killing him is irrelevant, stop spamming that arguement already"-
1. Where is your attention? I also told rox ogama had no powers left. Why are you repeating same sentence??
2. Imao😂😂😂😂😂 I don't believe in grant morrison's gibberish. Lucifer is made of pure evil and he holds every evil concepts. Grant morrison tried to retconn the whole dc but he failed. And his every statements are debunked by scott synder. Also your own sentence does not makes sense. Green lanterns were not amped by miracle machine . But still green lanterns defeated that fodder rox ogama.

Well, that happens with those two as well. At least you admit it, as do I.

@Mr_Incognito I don't get emotional when debating. The few things that's I'm really passionate about and want to talk about, no one else does (e.g. star wars, X-Men).
@ThorMathews Thanks for the shout out. It would seem as though @Mr_Jaeger07 hasn't been around recently. His missing presence has been noticed.

@Tyrannus yeah I miss the guy

Yeah same. We had some pretty intense debates.

Definitely no. There are way more better debaters.

@Alien_X You're a solid debater my guy.

@Savage @Taurus thanks guys 😊

Agreed, he was good when he was active.

The guy used to lose his temper pretty quickly and would resort to insults when he had no defence left. Not too great

Everyone can get that way when they’re on the defensive. He has more knowledge than anyone else on this site and is the most thorough in his points.

@Mr_Incognito Can I quote you on that one?

Not everyone. Only bad debaters.

You tend to paint with a very broad brush. Tracer has had his moments, but he's the most knowledgeable here. Whether or not someone insults someone isn't what decides how much they know.

@Taurus Depends, are you going to try to use this quote against me in some joking and sarcastic way that makes no sense?

@Mr_Incognito Just because you don't always understand it doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.

It's not a matter of understanding. It's a matter of you making unnecessary comments.

@Mr_Incognito Notice how their is always an underlying message in my "unnecessary comments".

I'm not generalising. He knew some stuff but he'd also say the wrong things too. He once told me canon star wars isn't on this site.
Also insults tend to ruin your credibility as a person whether you had the knowledge or not. You shouldn't have to get angry if you know your stuff.

Intentionally goading someone until they break also tends to ruin your credibility, which is exactly what was happening in that argument you had with him.

If insulting someone in a debate makes that person a bad debater then MrJaeger07 is one of the worst debaters on the site

Except I never goaded anyone. I do the opposite. I don't force anyone to insult me and its sad to see you justify insults once again. It makes this site toxic.

You said stuff you knew was going to upset him and then got surprised he got upset. So yeah, I don’t blame him for firing back a little bit.

Like what? I said I'm not going to stoop to his level. How does that justify further insults? Stop justifying the things that make this site toxic

You kept egging him on when he didn’t even want to debate. And no offense, but in terms of knowledge and debating, neither of us are close to him. I don’t understand why you throw such a fit when someone uses insults, which I agree are bad, but then turn around and insult me all the time.

We all have to agree that @Tyrannus and @LordTracer are two of the best debaters here.

I think anyone who shows obvious favoritism is automatically disqualified, which disqualifies 90% of users here, including me. A lot of the “best debaters” on the site are some of the most biased. I would say people like @HolyJoe @LuciferMorningstar and @Soulcollector are the best.

@Mr_Incognito You keep saying I egged him on but never prove it. The only reasoning I've seen is just because I didn't insult him back that made him look bad and justified further attacks.
He was pretty hit or miss actually. I'd debated him a few times and I can't remember anything where he showed good knowledge. I can't even remember the debate your referring to.
I don't know how your equating condemning insults to having a fit. Coming from the person who made an entire forum because he felt attacked himself, its rather strange. And no I've never insulted you because like I've always said from the beginning, their wrong. Period. Either stop complaining about them or stop condoning them.

At least @LordTracer edited characters well

@Tyrannus The reason I made the forum was to let people know I was leaving, it wasn't for attention.

I didn't say it was but its sounds very hypocritical what your saying

Thx chum

Thanks buddy.

Thank you

Cheers

@TheNemianLion in his prime would definitely qualify. And I don't know how he would be seen as more toxic than @Sora.

You weren't there @Taurus

Oh, thanks for considering me one of the great debaters despite never having debated with you (as far as I remember), although I guess it's because you've seen me debate with other people, anyway, thanks again :)

@ManofPower That's where your wrong m8 ;)

Me no remember you back then, all the way back in 2018?

@MrJaeger07 yeah, I don't think we've ever debated each other. Although that may be subject to change. 😈

In fact it almost happened via Discord but you turned down about my offering lol

Yeah, I don't scale Wonder Woman XD

@ManofPower Lurker

😎

🤨

That's where I'm going to have to disagree MoP. A good debater is not decided by how nice they are/were. I was never on this site to make friends. I came to this site with a vengeance. To take out SirSpidey and reign as the greatest debater. And I did for as long as I wanted before I moved to discord. Whether you like it or not. No one was able to beat me. Regardless of if I was a bad person on here or not. I was the best debater this site has seen objectively. Now. I wouldn't call you qualified to speak on debating as you wouldn't even debate Lucifer over on discord. Something I have done numerous times and all the debates remained inconclusive. So unless you can honestly say you're at a position to speak on the greatest SHDB debater. The-Nemian-Lion. As your best friend, I ask. Please. Just don't. Stay in your lane, and moderate.

"Debater - A person who argues about a subject, especially in a formal manner."

Now. I would assume because I argued subjects and was very proficient in my manner of expressing them. And proving them correct that I would qualify as a great debater. Nothing in this definition describes a nice person. In fact. A nice person would be a bad debater because they would avoid the argument side of things and concede quickly. Which is your entire history of debating... You literally conceded the other day to Lucifer before even starting... Again. Unless you're on a level to speak on these things. Just don't. Because you have no idea what you're saying.

There is no animosity between MoP and I. That's family. We cool.

I don't know @TheNemianLion at all, so I can't judge his ability as a debater, but as for Spidey he's not a good debater, mainly because he has no chill and prefers to lash out at people for disagreeing with him rather then actually debate. There's a fine line between being a ruthless debater and being an asshole to people for the sake of being an asshole.

Actually, I can judge @TheNemianLion lol, his own comment was idiotic enough that it seems very unlikely he was ever a great debater, and is someone's idea of a "king debater" is @SirSpidey you're probably both delusional.

@Savage I'd appreciate if you didn't talk about my friend like that.

You're the one that commented neither were great debaters

Reread my comment. I edited it

Still, you said it in the first place, and I agree with the first statements

Alright Savage. Since you're so attention starved. Mislead and just completely uneducated on what a debater is. I'll address you once. What is idiocy? Idiocy is extremely stupid behaviour. What is stupidity? Having or showing a great lack of intelligence. Which is clearly what you're demonstrating Savage. By challenging someone who far eclipses your mental capacity. You're proving yourself stupid. As for agreeing with ManOfPower's points. I'd love to hear your ludicrous 'reasons' as to why. Masking the fact that you were just so truly star struck by my presence and so attention starved that everyone on this platform thinks so very little of you. You're required to aim at the person who still years later is the most revered debater. MoP realised his missteps. Being the mature and intelligent individual he was. He corrected them and addressed me with the respect I've earned. And I hope you have the mental capacity to as well. Son. Also. Know this. Your judgements mean nothing to me. You're a nobody to me. And you will remain a nobody to me till my grave. Thanks for giving me a laugh.

Lol, if you seem pretty pissed for a guy that doesn't care. You can call me an idiot over and over, you don't have any reasoning besides that I called you out for saying some dumb shit. That sounds like a you problem to me. You struck me as a bad debater, since while talking about how amazing of a debater you are you said you were objectively the best, and if you can't even talk about being a good debater without making a dumb argument I have very little faith in your argument abilities lol. You on the other hand have no reason to think I'm dumb besides the fact that you're pissed at me, which just further proves my point. You managed to write a paragraph that summed up to "yeah, well.. you're dumb". Reading off a definition doesn't heighten your intelligence, as unfortunate for you as that may be. You also make it sound like I know who you are, and I'm not sure why. If I debated you in the past, I don't remember. While arguing with me about how good you are at arguing you've just said that I'm wrong over and over in more fancy ways, and I'm not going to lie, it's hard to take you seriously when you talk like an 8 year old with a superiority complex.

@TheNemianLion You need to stop talking down to people. Everyone here deserves respect and this "holier than thou act" isn't working. Treat others the way you want to be treated

For someone who really doesn’t have anything to say Savage you seem to speak a lot. You’re also a hypocrite too. You claim that my only argument was to claim that you were dumb. Fine. You could have used that argument if your entire argument wasn’t that I made a dumb statement. Which you still have not proven to be true my son. Addressing a fool in no way points to anger. Why would I hold any animosity towards a person who I don’t know? I call you an idiot because you clearly don’t understand what the fundamentals of debating are. You’re not a good debater just because you’re nice to people. You’re a good debater if you can one, effectively demonstrate ideas. And two. Win arguments. That is why I called you an idiot. And why I believe you to be one. If you want to prove me wrong. Learn from your mistakes. Don’t whine about them like a toddler without a pacifier. And now you demonstrate your lack of comprehension ability. If all you got was ‘Lol ur dumb.’ From my paragraph. Then you are drastically mislead. My main point is that you were attention starved. As well as that you were dumb and foolish for insulting someone who was merely defending himself and was objectively right in this situation. That’s pretty much all it was lil baby. I’m not mad at you. I could care less about what you think of me as a debater. Again. You mean nothing to me. You haven’t earned your stripes. You haven’t proven to me you’re worthy of my respect. Do that first and I’ll take back every negative word I said about you. But as for respect points you got a long way to go because you’re in the negative digits homie. I don’t want to have animosity between us. I wanna like you. But I can’t do that if you’re antagonistic towards me homie.

There is no act with me. Every claim I make I back up. I don’t think I’m more special innately than anyone. I just worked really hard for a long time to become as revered by the OGs as I am. And understand this Tyrannus. You’re making a name for yourself and I consider you to be at an intermediate level here. Certainly no rookie. So listen... Respect is earned, not given.

Could y'all get my name out of y'all's mouth? I don't need any of that clout.

I'm NOT here to make a name for myself and neither should you. Its not like we get medals for winning debates.

@TheNemianLion Bullshit. I called you out for saying you're objectively the best debater on this site, which is objectively false. Poor argument there. Debating has nothing to do with being nice, not in a negative or positive way. The fact of the matter is that you don't know how to debate with insulting people. I have no problem with being insulted, why would I take offence to attacks simply of childish anger? I'm confident you have no reason to believe I'm dumb, and if you do prove me wrong. You consistently make faults in your argument, and very easy ones to avoid at that. Here, let me help. First off, avoid saying subjective things are objective. This one's pretty easy, and for the purpose of argument I'll assume you know what both words mean. Second, insulting people is fine, but be careful with your insults, as you may slip up and make an insult with nothing to back it. That's like showing the opponent your hand, they now know your mad and making statements just to be aggressive. Finally, try to make some sense to your arguments, structure is key. Most arguments are more effective when they're written like a good paragraph, not lose strands of arguments and insults floating around in random order. Try some of those next time. Also, you again act like I know you. I really don't, I've talked to you only about this and about eminem. It's not like you've proven to me that you're a good debater, you've just gotten defensive and made childish insults so far. I liked your opening line though, that was creative at least, a start. "For someone who really doesn’t have anything to say Savage you seem to speak a lot" plays nice off my opening line "Lol, if you seem pretty pissed for a guy that doesn't care". The only problem is that I never said I don't have a lot to say, whereas you keep insisting you don't care. Nice try though, an attempt was made.

Saaaaavageeeee. My dude. I can't be bothered to do this with you for another six days. I gave you my stance. There's very little to argue with. My concrete view (Which means it can't change) is that I am objectively the greatest debater this platform has ever seen and will ever see. My view that is not concrete is that you're an idiot. You can change that. But arguing a point that was proven nonsensical in the first place is not demonstrating that to me Savage. It is in fact, counter intuitive. And of course, I know what something objective and subjective is. Subjective things relate to opinions. Objective things relate to facts. As in. It's a fact that I'm the GOAT. You can tell me my points are false, but until you actually prove that my points are false. Your stance has very little merit to it. I'm very clearly not angry. Not even upset really. Just kinda a bit... Tired? I guess. My reason for believing you were dumb was because you were antagonistic against someone who had no idea about who was only making factual rebuttals to a personal issue with MoP. Something by the way that never concerned you. Then you decide to bring in Spidey into our conversation. Which was... Weird? But whatever you do you champ. But know this. I'm calculated. I don't slip up bro. Everything I say or do is methodical. Now. If you could outline and identify where my structure was off. That would be greatly appreciated. We're all here to learn pumpkin. You clearly know that I am revered. Otherwise you wouldn't have messaged me in the first place, would you now? Tsk tsk tsk Savage, do better. But seriously. This back and forth needs to end I can't be assed. If you really felt so cut by this. Fine. You're not an idiot. And we can agree to disagree with my position as the greatest debater. Is that okay with you honey? I rather give you hugs and kisses than cuts and stitches.

My guy, tf was that. "My concrete view (Which means it can't change) is that I am objectively the greatest debater this platform has ever seen and will ever see". You just admitted to this being an opinion of yours. The word "view" means it's your opinion. One cannot be objectivity the best at something. It's just not possible. That's not how the word works. I don't even know how to respond to that, you must know you're wrong. My stance has plenty of merit to it, it's literally a fact that you're wrong about what the word means. No one can be objectively the best at anything. Moving on. I didn't bring Spidey into the conversation, I talked about him before talking about you. Read my first comment. Next. "You clearly know that I am revered. Otherwise you wouldn't have messaged me in the first place, would you now?". I don't really know what to make of this, my first comment was "I don't know @TheNemianLion at all, so I can't judge him as a debater", and then I preceded to talk about sirspidey. I don't know what argument you're trying to make exactly, but I'll say for the last time, I don't know who you are. I don't know why I would, as we haven't talked before like, a week ago at best. I called you out originally for saying something dumb, and if you think I'm dumb for that, go right ahead. I'll still be just as correct.

No... My concrete view is a factual one... There's nothing subjective about a view dude. "View - regard in a particular light or with a particular attitude." a view is a way of looking at something. A concrete way of looking at something is a unshaken attitude pertaining to a contention. Which can be either objective or subjective. In my case it is objective. The one who performs the best among a group of people is the best among a group of people... Whoever wins a 6 man race is the fastest and thus the best at the thing they are doing... What exactly is your point here? Your arguments really do not have merit and you're continuously having as many lapses in your judgement as Logan Paul did when we recorded a dead body in a suicide forest bro. And also. Subtext exists bro. Just because you said something. That doesn't mean that there isn't any reasonable doubt you had ulterior motives and intentions. You clearly wouldn't have responded if you didn't want something for me. Especially granted that you had a month's opportunity prior... You're really not sounding genuine at all with this. And again. You still haven't proven what I said was dumb. Every word I've said thus far has been objective concrete fact. Plain and simple.

It's objective that it's your view. Your view is not objective. Google objective and this argument will be over.
What motives do you think I have? What?
You have said many subjective things, and who wins a debate is always subjective. It just is.
I'm getting bored of the subjective/objective argument. All you need to do is google the words, so I'm not addressing that again.

:m&mmeme: When you debated multiple people at the same time.

Not getting what you mean

Lol @RajinKabir on discord I have debated numerous people at the same, twice. Both ended inconclusively, the first one did but Akhil had the battle voted so... technically a lost?

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@Manofpower weird flex but okay

Thanks man

Lol thanks bud. And remember that debate about MCU Thor vs DCEU Superman? whoa! from that moment I knew we would consider each other one of the best debaters 😅

Never really had a debate with @Tyrannus but if I had he probably would have ended up in top 3

@MrJaeger07 yes. That was a long debate.

@RajinKabir Yeah we keep agreeing on topic.

To this day I'd still put y'all in a debating grave and then piss on it. Enough blasphemy against the God.

Thank you!

Ayy ma boi
thx m8

Whoa!! Thanks man.

Thanks!

Lol, Thanks @Breaker

np

Thnx but i am pretty sure there are people better than me.

Maybe but you're doing fine and you know about lot of verses.

I'd say @AkhilPDX is quite underrated here. He's usually the voice of reason and makes very strong points everytime

I like him as a person and a debator quite a bit. Sometimes he makes statements about characters when he hasn't read the material.

i just did saw that now ,thanks jon

With currently do you mean active?

As in right now if I had to say who's the best

Thx my child

Thanks!

Appreciate it

i just complimented u dude.

Cheers man. Your one of the best too

Thanks brother, you too.

Thank you

I want to thank you for mentioning my name, dear one.

Thank you so much. You're a great debater too :D

I don't think I've seen @Galactus debate.

He has before

Thank you @Holy_Joe, I debated multiple people at the same time and got it to end inconclusively.

Thank you boss

Lol, no.

Not at all

She is one of the best

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Aquaman wins.

I agree with @Dean

Cheers bro. I really appreciate that.

that dosen't mean ur not good debater, it's easy just like me ,i was thinking SPH can Beat LT and i was saying No lmits,i also was a hulk ****** everytime ,and i was fodder debate ,but not im in C tier and thanks god , also for real u almost beat me in thor vs hulk battle on discord both we did the best ,

Thanks brother, and no, you're a good debater.

Appreciate it

Really @Emptyhand is worst debater he debates with stupid reason

You're funny with your trolling mxy, but stop it's annoying

Thank You

Bernardo is Actually smart but ok

Who is discord mxy?

The mxy who's on discord that's ret*rded

Im not in discord
Whom mxy ur talking about

It's not the same mxy, so if you're claiming I'm a bad debater cause I mean you, well you're wrong, the mxy i mean is the mxy who is best friends with Bernardo and uses the most fallicous claims

Bernardo i dont know him
Im not the same one

Never said you were, so don't say I'm a **** debater

Actually im not a debater
So dont rank me

**and i didn't**

Jade is not above Splash in any way, and to be frank, he doesn't deserve to be that high on the list. Second thing, Soul has debated Aero before and while he did lose, it was a good and prolonged debate so he should at least be a tier below Aero. No offense Empty, you have good scaling but you aren't as good of a debater as Isk, Soul, or Tracer. IDK if you put it in order, but I do personally believe I'm above Dark_Prodigy, Clint, TheOne2001, Dark_Wing, & Oblivion....also, Spino is a VERY good debater. He's above Sora at his peak by quite a bit, at least at his prime. *I've even matched Sora before and gone head to head with good debaters.* To be frank, most people have their good debate accomplishments as well as their not so good debates. It's fine. DanCo, I wouldn't place that low on the list. He, I believe has done quite well in debates. IDK about Oblivion being "D" tier, and I definitely wouldn't put Spidey THAT low on the tiering system. At his best with his best topic, Spidey is a top tier debater, arguably "S" tier, at least with your tiering system. I don't know if Lucifer is on Aero's tier. Anyways, you as Plasmatic Plays weren't that terrible of a debater as you think, and putting Bernardo or Mxy on Joey's tier is just an insult to them. Last thing, looking through old comments, AndreasVer has provided evidence for his claims and doesn't follow a magazine so he technically might scale above Joey.

Okay, whoever reported my comment and downvoted it....you'd better have a very mature reason to do it because I said no slurs or straight up went on an offensive insult spree.

Wow Akhil sees himself as a better debater than me! Is he Seriously forgetting how afraid he is of debating me especially when it comes to Star Wars characters?

@EmptyHand what tier would I be now?

Opinions don't make you a bad debater it's how you debate

Lol am I fodder because I debunked you more times than not?

Andreasver is worse than anyone else

@Dark_wing you did debunked ur ass,u just talk behind back people

When did I talk behind people's backs?

@dark_wing you know by urself ,u didn't debunked anything ,maybe yeah u almost kill me in thor vs hulk batlle but nah ,i did one punch u like about 250 comment on this battle ,

Oh, that our first Space Punisher Hulk vs King Thor debate, and our Hulk vs Wonder Woman debate are also where I destroyed you. If you want to bring up when I said "Worldbreaker Hulk is Sentry level" on the Scott pilgrim vs World War Hulk page, that was just a joke. Also can you plz fix your grammar?

sph vs rune king thor ? i didn't debate u on this ,lordtracer did and he smashed you easily ,hulk vs wonder woman ,i did tell you hulk have big problem with thor ,he like did he beat him 5 times ,thor is above wonder woman u fag , u did say that world breaker fought sentry ,world breaker has never did that ,that was world war hulk ,also hulk says that he was holds back ,what if he turn into world breaker in this battle ? he will kick sentry ass easy ,also if u know my grammar from a while ago ,so u better shut up or i can go mad on u very very mad on u

No, I was referring to this https://www.superherodb.com/space-punisher-hulk-vs-rune-king-thor/90-243830/. On that very page, I proved it wasn't a fair comparison because Thor is NOT Wonder Woman, literally the only thing those heroes ha e in common is that they're both warrior gods and even then I believe Diana has been retconed back into being a girl made from clay. And yes, that's why i was joking about it.

Ur jokes are not funny and annoying

That's why it's called "trolling"

Thanks fam. But... Dark_Wing and I debated once in which I conceded. Akhil has beat me every single time except for 3 or 4 debates., I have beat Sora once out of i wanna say 5-6 debates. Nemian absolutely fodderizes me everytime. Holy_Joe scales to me in debating skill. Spidey also scales above me

Lol empty hand should be at buttom

@ManofPower I've beaten you in basically every debate except for like two or three. The first one, we just stopped. The second one, we technically "stalemated" due to both us not being in our "best states" (AKA Thanos VS Darkseid...like the 4th debate of that), and the third one, you beat me if I can remember properly...but it was more or less, on one of "those" topics where it was kind of uphill, in which I have beaten you before even though it wasn't the best topic so....

Nemian beated tracer and tracer even admits nemian beats him

He also beated tracer on Vegeta VS wonder woman here

Also tf i should be 5

WOW! I didn't even think I would make the list.

Honestly I should of been a borderline troll.

No current

Also tf i read more comics then you

Also mop loses consistently to akhil he even did admit he also Sayed Nemian beats him also my bad he beated soul on wonder woman VS vegeta

Soul is better than tracer, even tracer admitted that, even so, neither are good

Such bullsh*t.

I have beaten Tracer a few time too. With respect I wouldn't say he was a good debater because he used to swear at people when he started losing.

....I will say very professionally that I HIGHLY disagree with your list...but I won't make a fuss. And I was never scared of your debunks.

Most accurate thing I've ever seen

Thank you, dude, but I doubt I even come close.

@jongensoden Wow, that's actually really motivating. Thank you.

No brother, your the best debater, and I love you too

The top, better than me.

My brother nemian is trolling

Are you asking me?

Agreed.

@Spidey Grow some balls, kid. You’re not a good debater, you’re just an idiot.

Well @Galactus that's Debatable but it can be true so if it was true then it has to be @DanielB