What misconceptions about comics and there characters annoy you the most and why?

harley is amazing not nigh omnipotent

A true God does not have an avatar Otherwise that's contrary to eternal fullness

Surely an omnipotent being should be able to do whatever he wants wherever it fits

He needs avatars a omnipotent being needs nothing

I agree on the first one

No I'm saying people think Doomsday can beat anyone and everyone because of his adaptation but he can't. Unless your agreeing with me too...

??? I agree with you is what I'm saying

Ok.

Glad to see that this is being made more public

I thought it had to be decapitation with a holy weapon

Previously, Spawn couldn't regenerate from decapitation and in Issues #44 and #45, it was shown that heavenly weapons like the Dimensional Lance weren't r3equired to kill a hellspawn.





This isn't the case anymore as Spawn can instantly regenerate his head and it was revealed in Issue #161 that he had weaknesses no more.

Good stuff

Who even thinks Catwoman is Faster then flash?

According to Marvel their definition he is

No @Mr_Incognito is right. The whole point of the SSS is to be more than humanly possible.

Marvel still calls him peak human

Daredevil has Fought for multiple days and so has batman they are still not superhuman by the definition of the verse

They show him doing things far beyond peak humans

Then those examples are PIS as that shouldn't be possible

You cant call things you don't like pis

Jon, i am a big DC and Batman fan, but you have to recognize that Cap is faster and stronger than Bruce is. He can run 13 miles in 30 minutes and restrain flying away helicopters. That's something even a perfect human couldn't do.

I agree he is stronger and faster but i still consider him peak human he is not as strong or fast as spiderman or captain britain

I very rarely do but this is a good example. Given who they are they shouldn't have been able to do those things.

Batman has one of the greatest willpowers in dc ofcourse he should it's more willpower then stamina

CA can't be considered a peak human after all that. Also Captain Britain is leagues away from even that.

Willpower will only get you so far. It can push you a bit but you shouldn't be able to do superhuman things.

Captain britain is superhuman captain America not Batman his willpower is insane he has done these things consistently trough his comic book history he even kept fighting with bullets in his legs and Bruce once locked himself in a cave without food or water to simulate death and rebirth as part of the Thogal ritual he lasted 7 weeks also after a week of being drugged with no food and then being stabbed and beaten, he gets hit through a marble wall and is still in shape to fight he has even beaten 200 soldiers once let's leave it at this both batman and captain America are peak humans with superhuman feats

Surviving for one week without food is something a normal person can accomplish. Being stabbed and beaten and surviving is something a normal person can accomplish (albeit, it would depend on the situation). People have been smashed through walls before in comics. That's not a big deal. Other characters who would be considered peak humans have fought through entire hordes of characters. Again... that's not superhuman. Batman is a peak human with high ends that could be considered superhuman IRL, but at the end of the day, he's still a peak human in comics. Captain America is beyond other peak humans like Daredevil, Winter Soldier, or Black Widow. He is the best... the ABSOLUTE best a human can ever naturally evolve to. His feats outclass Batman and it's consistently shown that he's much faster and stronger than normal peak humans. He is superhuman. Whether you consider that a lower end of superhuman, I don't care. He physicall outclasses Batman in every stat category and is a definitive superhuman.

Maybe in your definition but not Marvel's their

Also a normal person Cant survive 7 weeks without food or water

1) Why even bring it up? If you look at all the feats Cap has done, they're superhuman and most importantly, above Batman's caliber.

2) I ignored that feat, not because it's an outlier, but because the way you phrased it made it seem as if anyone could survive that, or at least anyone with good enough physical stats. "Simulating" death and simply surviving are two different things.

1 no he is peak human in the sense that he's the most any human will ever achieve humanity is not at that point yet and marvel calls him peak human. 2 it's no outlier i can name 11 other comparable feats also fighting for 3 days is a superhuman feat

Humanity and what humans can achieve is different. Are you talking about CA's physique or the SSS's creation itself? Marvel doesn't call him peak anymore and his feats show that. I really wish I could find it again but during the Marvel Now run I think it was Dum Dum Dugen who said that it doesn't matter how well trained they were, CA always made them look like peek squeaks.

I have multiple scans where Marvel says he is not superhuman

Are any of them recent and said by a reliable source? Either way his feats show he is superhuman. Their were plenty of better trained soldiers in Steve's camp and couldn't do anything like CA did after the SSS.

Not trying to be rude, but weren't you the one who was voting that he beats The Writer and Presence and also can only be beaten by the Leviathan?

That was long gone @incognito and that was probably the worst scaling I've ever had in my entire life

It's not totally impossible to make arguments making Astral Regulator Thanos more powerful.

Agreed

People don't exaggerate when they accept that magic is a weakness to Superman. You can ignore the word all you want but its a WEAKNESS.

I already showed you that a writer for both DC and Marvel has said that Superman is simply affected by magic like everyone else, not that it weakens him. You also have cherrypicked scans that say weakness when there are others that simply say vulnerable.

He never once denied that it was a weakness. A weakness doesn't necessarily need to depower you. I didn't cherry pick I showed you scans your trying to deny. And like I said last time you can be vulnerable to a weakness.

Read the scans again buddy

Flash is OP as hell

I did and he didn't deny magic is a weakness.

I literally pointed out where he says "He is not specially-weakened in its presence, just affected like everyone else." No matter what kind of mental gymnastics you try, that doesn't change that he directly said that magic isn't a weakness. Stop lying

And I replied back when you said that saying how he still never denied that it was a weakness. A weakness doesn't have to be unique to only you. Do you have any idea how many times it's mentioned in the comics that it's a weakness? Your literally denying outright facts from the comics. You cannot get more credible than that.

And that is wrong. You somehow think despite the words being said by a writer of Superman that you're still right. I understand that there are scans of it being said. However, there are also plenty that explain it is just a vulnerability. It isn't consistent, it depends on the writer. You actually can get better than that, the words of the writer himself.

The writer never said magic is not a weakness and even so he's just one guy compared to so many comics saying weakness. One writer can have an interpretation but several comics say the same thing. But if you want to look at it that way, Stan Lee said that Hulk would beat Superman in a fight every time. Do you agree with him there or do you only agree when they say what you want them to say?
All weaknesses can also be said to be vulnerabilities. It's been said far too many times for you to deny that magic is a weakness. This isn't my opinion this comes straight from the comics. It's fact whether you like it or not. Magic is one of his weaknesses.

YES HE DID, omfg. Of course Stan Lee would say that. His own character versus a rival company's character? I would say the same thing if I was him. That's pretty apples to oranges considering i'm talking about something unique to Superman while you're talking about a fight. Weaknesses are not the same thing as vulnerabilities. If they were, then the distinction between the two would not be made. Kryptonite is Superman's weakness, since it will weaken him and eventually be fatal. Magic simply can hurt him. I can get hurt from a punch, but that doesn't mean that someone who knows how to punch will beat me if I'm on the same playing field as them. If you look at any debate site or wiki, there is a general consensus that Superman is vulnerable to magic (able to be hurt by it) but not weak to magic. I promise. Go look it up. There are scans that support Superman being weak to it, and then there are times where he shrugs off magic like it's no problem. The "weakness" isn't consistent enough to say that he's weak or unaffected, so the best way to say it is that it can hurt him, but not weaken him.

He never said it's no weakness he said he is affected to like everyone else wich means he is not weakened in it's présence but it's still a weakness wich means it does more damage to him then a normal person his permeability to certain wavelengths makes him vulnerable to certain radiations particularly magical energies whose chaotic electromagnetic or extra dimensional signatures disrupt this force

No he didn't. You just misinterpreted his words.
And there we have it. Stan Lee's apparently biased but not that writer. I know that writer wrote for Marvel too but like Jack Kirby, he can have a bias.
And Stan Lee has far more credibility than most writers combined. He doesn't have an agenda nor can he be considered a fanboy as he's never really veered closely to any one character he's created. He actually wrote for DC temporarily too on "what if Stan Lee wrote the DC universe".
I'm talking about fights which involved magic. Weaknesses do not need to have the same effects to be weaknesses. It's a very small minority of people who deny magic as a weakness and they all tend to be Superman fanboys. I've spoke to those same people on Quora and their answers are always the same. They deny it at first, I show them proof it is, they call me a hater and block me.
Your literally denying outright fact at the moment. It's quite concerning that your in denial like this.

You're the one who misinterpreted his words. It literally directly backs up what I said.

Read the fourth tweet. Can you read? Do you see what it says? It literally says Superman is NOT weak, just affected like everyone else. That distinction WOULD NOT BE MADE unless it was important.

Also, see here? He makes the distinction between magic and kryptonite. Stop trying to misrepresent what he said. I'm not doing that, you are. Just stop.
Well the whole "small minority" thing is just an unsubstantiated claim. Superman fanboys are not the only ones who say this.
Yeah, i'm definitely denying facts. I admitted that there are scans that say magic is Superman's weakness. I mentioned others say something different. I admitted that. You on the other hand, are deliberately trying to misrepresent what the writer said to back you up. The only one in denial here is you. You provided evidence, I accepted it. I did, you try to twist his words to make it sound like he agrees with you.

I knew I was right all along. He never said magic is NOT a weakness he just said he's not specifically weakened to it and like I've tried telling you before, a weakness doesn't need to be unique only to him and have the same properties as krytonite. Like I said you misinterpreted it in your wishful thinking. You keep assuming like this writer did that we think magic's mere presence is as toxic as krytonite. Most people don't say that but it's still a massive weakness. The comics themselves are far more credible and they continue to say how Superman is WEAK to magic. Please stop denying clear facts in comics.
What did you accept after evidence?

Really trying to use word semantics to refute me, wow. Just wow. The point Busiek is trying to make is that Superman ISN'T WEAK to magic. Those distinctions are made for a reason. A "massive weakness" is not the term that is correct. You're just trying to adjust his words to fit your narrative. Unbelievable. I have recognized those scans exist. There are others that say otherwise.

Actually yes the wording is very important here because you keep misinterpreting it. The fact of the matter is, he never said magic isn't a weakness. What several comics throughout the ages HAVE however is that magic IS a weakness.
If Busiek believed that then he would have clearly said so, he didn't. He only said things we already knew.
What narrative are you on about? That's exactly what your doing now. I'm referring to the comics themselves which proves definitively that magic's a weakness and your using misinterpreted wording from 1 guy. Your clearly in the wrong here. That's like me trying to argue yellow suns don't power krytonians.

You're wrong, plain and simple. Superman himself states to the phantom stranger that he is just as affected as everyone else, not weak.
He made the clear distinction.
You are trying to prove Superman is weak to magic, despite the majority of people disagreeing with you. You have cherry picked scans that say he's weak, while others say otherwise. On top of that, you're lying about what Busiek said in order to try to make your point better. Your analogy doesn't make any sense either.

Your not getting what he said he said He never said it's no weakness he said he is affected to like everyone else wich means he is not weakened in it's présence but it's still a weakness wich means it does more damage to him then a normal person

If you aren't weakened in the presence of something... then how the f**k is it still a weakness? That makes no sense.
He's affected by magic like anyone else, that's it.

No it does more damage then how it does to a normal person his permeability to certain wavelengths makes him vulnerable to certain radiations particularly magical energies whose chaotic electromagnetic or extra dimensional signatures disrupt this force

@Mr_incognito Stop being in denial. I just showed you that even that writer doesn't even say magic ISN'T a weakness and that several comics have repeatedly stated that magic IS a weakness and all you can say is "You're wrong, plain and simple". Based on what?
You keep arguing something I'm not even saying. Doesn't matter if magic affects others, its still a weakness for Superman. You keep assuming all weaknesses have to behave like krytonite. And actually a lot of beings aren't affected by magic, further dismantling your point.
And who's this majority? The only people who pretend it isn't a weakness are Superman fanboys. @jong is trying to tell you even now that it is and your still pretending your in the majority. I can continue sending you several scans, most of which are in Superman's presence and not once does he say they're wrong.

Since he's only as affected by magic as anyone else, that means everyone is weak to magic. Your argument makes no sense. I don't understand how you can see a statement from a writer of Superman that literally said that he isn't specially-weakened by magic and STILL try to deny it. Stop reinterpreting his words when you know exactly what he meant.

880 degrees Fahrenheit

I'd try Mars first

@Tarus: I know, which is why I'm going there.

@ThorMatt: why? Mars is so overdone nowadays.

Riddler's actually far smarter

Maybe

I'd say Bane is one of Batman's smartest villains still

I think Deathstroke might be smarter.

Debatable

That's not a misconception, that's a fact!

He don't

Prove it

I actually agree with you for once when it comes to Hulk.

In travel speed? He can't. In reaction speed? Maybe.

Not maybe, he's done so every time.
In terms of travel speed he may not be the Flash but he's faster than most people think there too. He's outraced mjolnir and kept up with Dr Strange's astral projection which was said to be much faster than the speed of thought.

He held onto Mjolnir if you're referring to the scan i think you are, and the speed of thought is not that fast.

No he was actually able to outrace it. @Breaker posted that image but I can't seem to find to forum again to show you.
It's still quite fast and shows Hulk isn't as slow as many people like to think

ENOUGH ABOUT THE GODDAMN ANT-MAN LEVEL!

Elektra is also ant man level

Ayy my favourite meme.

That's it, I'm, telling Galactus

BlotskyA is Ant Man level

even ant man beats daredevil

stop about the "he can copy people's powers and make them Ant Man level" Sh*t

You're right, he's faster

No

I literally just showed you Thor being faster than Silver Surfer! And that Silver Surfer was amped after the Annihilation storyline which makes this even more impressive.

Thor was never faster

Yes he was. Look at the scan up there 👆 Thor moved so fast that the Surfer couldn't even react! Now prove that he isn't!

Asking blotsky to prove something is basically asking a rock to move

I've proven that the Daredevil examples is an outlier and that Thor was holding way back. Even if it was valid Daredevil just scales off of Thor's speed feats meaning that by your logic Daredevil is also faster than the Surfer.

@Blotsky prove that Daredevil is consistently faster than Thor

ENOUGH!

I never get enough of the memes, but why should I stop?

Because Just Ignore MarDC, If Not, I Will Continue to make Bloodlust meme battles

And I will continue to not care, because Bloodlust isn't a meme, you're the meme here, a meme trying to meme is funny since you don't have the capacity to make a good meme.