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mkelley291
15 months member
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Doctor Doom dr. doom is a candidate for sorcerer supreme, and is on par with reed richards in iq, and iron man in technology, and is superior to batman in prep time. dr. doom should win with difficulty
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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And how is Nihilanth superior to the Gene Worm?
mkelley291
15 months member
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Doctor Strange Supreme (What If...?) (MCU) this fight would be pretty interesting and badass to watch. dr fate would win, but with high difficulty
Vers05
8 months member
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it terraforming organism. It would change entire earth and destroy all life. So it affecting planet so tier 4
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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Again possible doesn't necessarily mean true and we don't know if it is infinite in size. How is Gene Worm tier 4?
mkelley291
15 months member
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Doctor Strange Supreme (What If...?) (MCU) this fight is hilarious
Vers05
8 months member
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well it said to be a void so maybe infinite size. i know you doing your job i get that but saying nihilanth is tier 2 is stupid. Also nihilanth is more powerful then gene worm who is tier 4 so
ForJustice1324
45 months member
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I have a question. Is Mephisto the Marvel Comics version of the devil?
mkelley291
15 months member
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Doctor Strange Supreme (What If...?) (MCU) Wanda is my crush, but she dies terribly
ForJustice1324
45 months member
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Ghost Rider Well ain't this a showdown.
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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Ok 2nd part was stupid what I said I'll admit. Also how big is the domain he controls, what's it's size?
Vers05
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he is bro. You told me other thing before: Well from what I've seen so far I've seen things say he is tier 1 more and more, so Tier 6 and 7 seems unlikely. 6 or 7 means he would have the powerful to affect a universe or a multiverse.
Gman has full control over his domain so
Also that argument: Also seeing how Gordon was able to kill nihilanth, then I guess that would mean upgrading him to 6 which he isn't. that most stupid thing i have ever heard. it like saying samurai jack is tier 4 because he killed aku. or that old guy who killed bill cipher is tier 7 it makes no sense. Nihilanth is tier 6 or 7 at best
mkelley291
15 months member
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Melkor (True Form) can go either way, they're basically the same person
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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The feats you showed and told me are range feats, not Attack Potency. Also seeing how Gordon was able to kill nihilanth, then I guess that would mean upgrading him to 6 which he isn't.
Aleazlllll
17 months member
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Nyx (House Of Ideas) & Vision (House Of Ideas) Supreme maker Is featless
mkelley291
15 months member
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The Supreme Maker (SWL) & The Father Of Shadows (SWL) supreme maker = TOAA
Vers05
8 months member
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he should be tier 6 or 7
Vers05
8 months member
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i showed you feats for gman and proofed that he is universal. and remeber nihilanth scales to gman so i dont get it
Vers05
8 months member
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you didnt even play half life
Vers05
8 months member
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how ? you not making sense
mkelley291
15 months member
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Elaine Belloc Anakin as the chosen one is universal+. ellaine belloc blinks
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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1 or 2.
Vers05
8 months member
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he affecting so it still matters. so what nihilanth tier should have 6 or 7 ?
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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Possible doesn't necessarily mean it is true, we don't know for sure he actually created that place. Controlling something and creating something are two different things.
yes
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not voted @Aleazlllll
Vers05
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@Tigerking2020 it possible but i think he created it watch video above every time he apperas he seems to creat one . But one thing is for sure he has 100% control over it.
yes
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not voted @Darks ok so I just read up on your OC again and mine and yours are pretty much the same in my opinion
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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I see it say that this void is his "plane." but is there any proof that he created in the first place?
TheOversoulProject
8 months member
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Dream (Sandman) This Lucifer isn't close to comic accurate or Sandman version
Ezio
75 months member
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I dont know this character and dont care about wrong tier right now.
Vers05
8 months member
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quote from wiki: The G-Man seems to be able to take people into "parallel universe"-like "voids" and put them into stasis; this void is also known as his 'plane'. In most games featuring the G-Man, there are several sequences when he is talking at close range to the player, and various areas can be seen in the background, including areas from Black Mesa or even areas the player will visit later into the game. In these sequences, the G-Man talks to the player (the player's character never responds or reacts in any way, except in Half-Life: Alyx) and can be seen quickly appearing in different portions of the screen, in dream-like sequences. In Half-Life 2: Episode One, Vortigaunts enter the G-Man's plane and hold him back while chanting, which is accompanied by the creation of portal-like structures. This is one of the first instances that the G-Man is seen hindered in his own dimension
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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@Ezio what you think of the stats?
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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Where does it say he created the universe.
xerodeep
49 months member
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Mephisto @Tyrannus - The villain doesn't have to have that hero as his primary focus to still be enemies and be part of their rogues gallery. @2099 mentioned Doctor Doom as well. He is obviously first and foremost mainly a Fantastic Four enemy but that doesn't mean he's not also a Spider-Man villain/enemy as well. They've fought plenty over the years too. Are either Spider-Man's main enemies or vice versa? Of course not, but they are still his enemies and have battled multiple times.
2099
28 months member
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Lord Voldemort If Spider-man defeated Mr. sinister, imagine what would Voldemort do to him. Also Sinister's telepathy wouldn't work on someone who could control every mind in hp verse at the same time.
Vers05
8 months member
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yes. its his domain. voriguant can enter it. And remember nihilanth enslaved their entire race
Vers05
8 months member
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he created the universe where he sends people
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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You said he can put someone anywhere when he wants.
Vers05
8 months member
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now he created it
TheOversoulProject
8 months member
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Jubidara Compared to Juubidara, this version of Thanos is ass.
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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^^That's BFR/Banish.
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Vers05
8 months member
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Vers05
8 months member
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he can put someone there when he wants. Gordon spend there almost 20
TheOversoulProject
8 months member
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Kaguya Ōtsutsuki Kaguya has much more power.
TheOversoulProject
8 months member
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Goku (DB) Naruto doesn't have the abilities or power to beat Goku.
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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How and when?
MoNsTeR
35 months member
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sure
Vers05
8 months member
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@MoNsTeR can i edit
Vers05
8 months member
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gman can creat parallel universes
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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It said they created a portal and we already have a power for that Portal Creation. Portal Creation is range and not AP. For example I can create a potal from my room to the beach even while I'm a normal human.
Vers05
8 months member
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remember when i said nihilanth scales to gman. and gman is tier 7 so
Vers05
8 months member
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nihilanth is just mentioned in the video at the beginning
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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The Nihilanth is who I'm talking about.
Vers05
8 months member
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who ? they are alien controllers completly diffrent charachter
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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From what I see in the video they were guarding the portal to Xen, Plus they literally got killed by a gun so it's starting to be hard to believe they are that high.
Vers05
8 months member
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nihilanth is more powerful then Gene Worm (Gene Worm)
Vers05
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Tigerking2020
35 months member
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That's like opening a portal between dimensions which is dimensional travel. Dimensional travel doesn't automatically apply to tier, it's basically range. Controlling all life would mean Life Manipulation.
Vers05
8 months member
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his presences was felt everywhere. He was the master of the xen. He could teleport even fauna
Vers05
8 months member
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he was able to hold rifft between dimensions. Controled all life on xen
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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Yeah but remind me again.
Vers05
8 months member
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remember our talk
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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How did he affect entire dimension?
Vers05
8 months member
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how can he bee tier 1 ? if he was affecting entire dimension ?
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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Well from what I've seen so far I've seen things say he is tier 1 more and more, so Tier 6 and 7 seems unlikely. 6 or 7 means he would have the powerful to affect a universe or a multiverse.
MoNsTeR
35 months member
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@Tigerking2020
Vers05
8 months member
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thanks but does tiger agrees ?
MoNsTeR
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ok
Vers05
8 months member
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is that ok ?
Vers05
8 months member
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well i think low 7. im asking because i dont want his stats to be removed again
MoNsTeR
35 months member
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what do u think i don't know this character
Vers05
8 months member
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@MoNsTeR so monster tier 6 or 7 ?
HolyJoe
67 months member
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@Galactus 2005 version says he's 6ft.
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vonKonigsberg
67 months member
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Replicator Carter (SG) Replicator Carter is superior in every way except maybe combat programming. Just by touching the T-1000 she could easily take control of it as well.
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Frey
1 months member
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Raditz (DB) another massive stomp from Raditz, poor All Might with whom they faced him
Frey
1 months member
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Raditz (DB) How is it equal in power to Raditz?
This is not even close to saying that Raditz would lose, in the first dragon ball at the end, they already far exceeded the island level range by quite a bit, and Raditz is capable of devastating more than that, the calculations are not even valid for a versus, the Forums to give arguments are very bad information, Raditz by difference was already much faster than an attack that could itself destroy and go to the moon with relative ease, how do you see this even?
Raditz by difference was even able to Humiliate both Goku and Piccolo, since he easily dodged Piccolo's attack as if nothing had happened and resisting an attack from Piccolo as if nothing, else is better in melee aspects
Vers05
8 months member
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i think low 7 or 6
yes
12 months member
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Dalek (Doctor Who) The Daleks straight up one shot
MoNsTeR
35 months member
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ok you two can decide which tier deserves
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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The size of the realm is unknown, it doesn't say if it is infinite in size.
Vers05
8 months member
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i think its accurate. i also played half life. It is in fact my favourite game of all time
Vers05
8 months member
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xen is know as border world to our own
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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That's just a reddit post so we don't know for sure if it is accurate.
yes
12 months member
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not voted @RatnikNaSjeveru2005
Gu
14 months member
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not voted I wonder if the question comes down to this: although Dr. Manhattan has near absolute control—and may in fact be—the physics of the universe, does magic obey the laws of physics at all? Does Dr. Strange actually supersede our understanding of how Manhattan functions? And is Strange simply able to separate himself from the physical laws of the known universe, which are what Manhattan embodies? As seen in the 70s version of Dr. strange, it certainly seems like he can. Manhattan, on the other hand, has never , I suppose you could argue that magic is only science we have yet to understand, but, really, Dr. Strange is beyond that tired old trope.
mtrindadc
38 months member
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Apocalypse (EMCU) @RatnikNaSjeveru2005 how would sauron defeat Apocalypse? Apocalypse can manipulate matter... Sauron cannot, if he could do that, he would have conquered all of Middle-earth in just one day.
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Frey
1 months member
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Raditz (DB) Raditz stomps the entire verse of The Boys with Horrible ease this is also a mismatch
Vers05
8 months member
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can i edit i lower to tier 6 but i still thinks he is low tier 7 . The only reason his stats were removed is because we dont know how big is xen in half life. i found this : https://www.reddit.com/r/HalfLife/comments/4k0kxi/what_is_a_size_of_xen/.
Frey
1 months member
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Nappa (Saiyan Saga) (DB) & Raditz (DB) Both Raditz and Nappa, would solo the entire cast of the Fairy Tail universe, this would be a stomp
MoNsTeR
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i will edit later
Frey
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Rune King Thor this is a personal mismatch, Rune King Thor takes it for better feats
MaksimMiron13
20 months member
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Team Super Rabbit Kid Chameleon can use disguises to defeat them, Shimmer and Shine can just grant a wish to have them lose their powers, VectorMan will finish them off.
Vers05
8 months member
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@MoNsTeR he should have stats but tiger removed them
yes
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not voted @RatnikNaSjeveru2005 @Collectfire75 @Aleazlllll @Mephisto @Vers05
Frey
1 months member
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Superman Prime (One Million) this would not be bad, but from here I would give it to Superman, for a better advantage of using Ha'xs, but I will change my vote if I get to see more of goku
mtrindadc
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Apocalypse (EMCU) Apocalypse SLAMS!
Frey
1 months member
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Goku (Ultra Instinct) (DB) Goku has a better chance in Feats, One Million may have had incredible tests, but there is much that is unknown. the information that he usually possesses is little, but as for brief reference, Goku demonstrated the best difference feat
Vers05
8 months member
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Eru Iluvatar the one below all is Omninescience
Frey
1 months member
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Cosmic Armor Superman It's a serious joke, is there a user who says that Prime one million?
if so discuss
Vers05
8 months member
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Dalek (Doctor Who) i dont think it would work dalek armor is too strong
Frey
1 months member
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Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (Gurren Lagann) Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann stomps and no, it's not even close, this is already a stomp, if it were Superman Prime it would be a better fight
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Dalek (Doctor Who) I mean it could sorta work on them i guess like you know pushing them away since normal people were able to push Daleks around in Journey's end episode but i still think Daleks win
yes
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not voted @RatnikNaSjeveru2005 @Danyel @Aleazlllll
Frey
1 months member
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Cosmic Armor Superman Cosmic Armor Superman Stomps Easily
Vers05
8 months member
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Dalek (Doctor Who) @RatnikNaSjeveru2005 he thinks that force is enough to take daleks very funny
mtrindadc
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Gorr The God Butcher (MCU) Gorr will defeat Sauron for sure. Sauron can't match gorr's skills...he can't even kill gods.. The difference in power between them is very large. While Sauron had difficulties ruling Middle Earth. Gorr nearly killed every god in the entire marvel universe.


if Gorr were in middle earth he would destroy not only it but the entire planet in a few days.. he can create life [literally].The Necrosword gave Gorr the ability to conjure Shadow Monsters and weapons. By stabbing his Necrosword into the ground, Gorr could summon a variety of Shadow Monsters from the shadows and help Gorr in battle.
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Frey
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Kami Tenchi (Tenchi Muyo) Nah Tenchi stomps easy
yes
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not voted Lucifer can’t even beat omnipotent beings who gained omnipotence. Maze had to go back and time and kill then before they got the omnipotence. Lucifer and toba hulk are nigh omnipotent with limits
Vers05
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Dalek (Doctor Who) i know about star wars. You just dont know anything about civilization scaling. daleks are :
Higher-Dimensional Civilization: A civilization whose dominion and reach extends not only across numerous, if not infinite parallel universes, but also across higher-dimensional planes of existence and higher realities as well.
while empire is Galactic Civilization: A civilization whose territory extends throughout most, if not all of its home galaxy, containing many thousands if not millions of planets united under one government. Typically possesses means of Massively FTL+ travel, and technology capable of terraforming and destroying planets. Also force would't matter. I dont recall stormtroopers having force. Its a fight between ships, soldiers,. You have problem understanding about dalek power. Me and ratnik showed you feats but you just are moron who dont know nothing about civilizations. And dont say i lost because you debunked shit and didnt provide any feats. All you keep saying is the power of the force. You stupid force would't even work on daleks. force lightning would't work because daleks are armored. Their armor is literally a tank. Force Push also would't work because remeber i said daleks can tank nukes yeah. what next Force Choke also would't work because again dalek armor. Also daleks ships are faster more deadly. im done debating you.

https://www.quora.com/Who-would-win-in-a-war-between-The-Dalek-Empire-and-the-Galactic-Empire-Star-Wars-IV-VI

https://www.fanverse.org/threads/the-galactic-empire-vs-the-daleks.936379/

https://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/1rfpo2/dalek_empire_vs_the_galactic_empire/
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Kang the Conqueror (MCU) He had all of his high tech destroyed before that
yes
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not voted It’s not even about his God it’s the simple fact TDYF is forever transcending and has already transcended DC and marvel. Toba hulk and Lucifer are nothing to TDYF
mtrindadc
38 months member
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Doctor Doom (2015) (EMCU) @RatnikNaSjeveru2005 Kang fights only aganist ant-man and was defeated... 2015 Doctor Doom fights all of the Fantastic Four.
mephisto
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@Vers05 @Yes @SupremeDreams @achilles @Darks @Omega_Beyond868 @shaneherald What's the biggest debate you've had?
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masterking2
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Sometimes I reflect on my Kirby is better than everyone else phase.
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
26 months member
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Captain Marvel (MCU) No diffs if Ultron is in his regular form, low diffs if he is in his vibranium form
Vers05
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Gladiator Hulk you made a topic about football and you said there that you from england
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
26 months member
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Kang the Conqueror (MCU) This Doom was beaten by getting punched a lot, Kang stomps
Ke
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KB I mean...of course I am going to pick my OC
mtrindadc
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Doctor Doom (2015) (EMCU) Kang also has telekinesis, but I think Victor Von Doom from 2015 is more powerful because Kang's powers come from his high technology but Victor's powers come from genuine mutation apart from the fact that Doom can absorb energy from Technological items that give power to Kang...
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masterking2
25 months member
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Last I checked he serves a similar purpose to oblivion or more accurately abraxas.
Tigerking2020
35 months member
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For starters, God Emperor Doom beats him. Also his cosmology isn't that huge. You could argue he be more powerful and outer if put in a bigger verse, but we don't know for sure if he'd get that powerful. Tier 8 is the more realistic choice here.
yes
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Team The Doctor (Doctor Who) Lucifer can also destroy multiverses. If Lucifer really needed to he could destroy creation as he already lifted it or at least half of it. Don’t know if Lucifer sees the Omniverse as a restaurant but he did help make it. Time has never been a problem for Lucifer as he never goes by the rules and can manipulate time and space. The doctor had to be amped to do some of those things while Lucifer wouldn’t need to be
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Team The Doctor (Doctor Who) Doctor fused with all of reality

Defeats Master who was amped by Glory

Merged with a type 1 Tardis which allowed him to absorb all of creation

Turns Eternals, Gods who transcend Time Vortex and tore through it with their screams, Time Vortex itself transcends dimensionality into normal humans



Doctor defeated Lampreys

Lampreys is a being who feeds on multiverses

and sees Omniverse as it's resturant
yes
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not voted @Collectfire75 @RatnikNaSjeveru2005
De
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Megamind (Megamind) Very good fight. Gru is physically stronger, a little faster, and a better fighter with more experience. If this battle was hand-to-hand, Gru would win easily. However, Megamind is more durable, smarter, and has superior gadgets and weaponry, several of which can make him faster or stronger. With their equipment Megamind would win
yes
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Oh ok 🤝
Collectfire75
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@yes Because of all your feats with your character
yes
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Team The Doctor (Doctor Who) Lucifer has too many impressive feats and scales higher in base. Lucifer would win after a while and would find a way to win. Lucifer could also take away the doctor’s regeneration
nooropener
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😋😍
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Team The Doctor (Doctor Who) Doctor>>>Lucifer
yes
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Team The Doctor (Doctor Who) Lucifer vs the doctor = Lucifer
Dalek vs Scp-001 = Scp-001
TDYF vs the six-fold god = TDYF
yes
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Why am I the best overall debater?
yes
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Team The Doctor (Doctor Who) @Collectfire75
yes
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Team The Doctor (Doctor Who) @RatnikNaSjeveru2005 @Aleazlllll
P3CCA12
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Gru (Despicable Me) @Taurus Gru dodged missiles from vector which is around mach 10+, he could dodge the cube ray, plus the fact that Gru hhas punched a shark without flinching which has to be atleast around a wall feat which metal robots also are wall level robots
P3CCA12
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@ForJustice1324 she is stronger but we can't assume her strength just cause she was related to hulk.
As
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Doctor Fate Okay, but only one condition. Please ask them to vote.
Thank you
Mohamed
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Superman Agreed
Mohamed
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Superman Agreed
Mohamed
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Superman Agreed