The Devil You Forgot Are not reading anything at all ? For the 3rd time now I never said good didn’t exist in his verse and that evil privales bc he wants it too meaning good still exits also stop applying other rules from other verses to mine.
The One-Above-All@yes Good prevails typically in this universes explain this? If evil was all powerful they'd be wiped out or at least evil would be prevailing...
The One-Above-All@yes There is good in almost every verse even those with weak cosmologies...you said he has transcended Marvel/DC which are two of the most powerful cosmologies...
The Devil You Forgot That’s not the case bc ? Also I didn’t say he transcended every verse yet I said he’s always transcending but as of rn he has not transcend every verse
1) You admitted your bias by saying he's your favorite
2) You brought up MCU where its a nerfed Smart Hulk who isn't even trying to fight lol...plus he gets his mind controlled in MCU but can't in comics...
3) SS will see in the future that he loses
4) Just like he did in Planet Hulk
5) This Hulk is intelligent and more powerful and skilled than savage Hulk
not voted If you are asking how he’s able to destroy marvel and dc it’s bc he’s already transcended it. He is able to destroy anything he has transcended
Silver Surfer@Taurus I'm' sure u remember this scene right?
... The Surfer can harm the hulk's soul in the astral plane and while in the astral plane the hulk cannot harm the Silver Surfer because the astral plane is the SOURCE of Power Cosmic...
And Silver Surfer its literally POWER itself
(Note. you can find all these pics in the silver surfer gallery i put them myself in 2019.. he's my favorite character from marvel.. and i know he takes this one.. hulk doesn't stand a chance.)
not voted Yeah statements that I’m telling you happened I’m making the verse so ik what he’s done. Now if you wanna help me flesh out the cosmology then I’m all for it
Silver Surfer@Taurus i don't think the hulk will lose this fight because i don't like the hulk as a character.. but because the surfer is really more powerful... and the hulk can't kill him because the surfer doesn't need his own body... he can transmute or transmute others like you did with wolverine..
Even if the SS cannot kill the hulk's body, it can attack the hulk's soul like when it did with other enemies with extremely resistant bodies like the hulk's.
Or even sealing the hulk in his own Board.
The surfer knows all possible hulk moves hulk will never hurt him because SS can see the future..
not voted He snaps the whole cosmology away. TDYF is above omnipotence and has transcended it also I’m worried about your OC rn so no point in bringing it up
Apocalypse (EMCU)@RatnikNaSjeveru2005 Sauron doesn't have an original body... the Ainur are spiritual beings... and sauron loses his first body that he created when he came to Arda a long time ago... every time he loses his body getting injured or dying in a battle he runs away in his spirit form and he creates another body to inhabit but that takes a long time because every time he loses a body he gets weaker... Sauron is a spirit and he doesn't have an original physiology or what you call "Ainur physiology ". [read J.R.R tolkien's books before voting friend..]
Lucifer Morningstar & Breaker of Worlds@yes How will he deal with TOAA here? Simple statements about "trancendence" aren't ample proof...how does he beat Marvel and DC with such tiny cosmology? Taurus is the zodiac king zodiac/greek mythology/cosmology is one of the biggest...
Sons of Anarchy (2008-2014) VS. Breaking Bad (2008-2013). I tend to constantly make up my mind a lot on what to choose on what's better between the both of these series. Both of them are equally my favorite and I know the rule is that a person has to choose one, but I just can't!
Stan Lee It's Stan Lee, an omnipotent author who created many worlds and beings far superior to his opponent, not to mention the fact that he is able to exist in his world in many forms. Long story short, Stan Lee won.
@MoNsTeR what do you think should i lower tier. i still have nihilanth in my edits. like i said i think he is low 7 but tiger is gone and i dont know what to do.
Team Scarlet Witch 1. Scarlet Witch and Raven are very powerful sorceresses so Dracula will have to resist powerfull magic attacks and manipulation. 2. Spawn, Dante, Bayonetta, Sephiroth and Alucard can solo effectively fight Dracula, in team it will be even easier for them to defeat Dracula
Team Hulk (MCU) Hulk* vs Smart Hulk (no explanation needed)
Thor (IW)^ vs Fat Thor^ (the Russos said Fat Thor is the strongest most powerful Thor but IW Thor can summon Mjolnir as well which is one of the main factors of Fat Thor's superior power)
Iron Man^ vs Iron Man Prime^ (they will hack each other and detonate the suits)
Cap^ vs Worthy Cap^ (tie, they're both worthy)
Hawkeye^ vs Ronin^
Black Widow* vs her sister
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Iron Man (Model Prime) (MCU) I’ve got model prime here. Yes hulk buster stalemated age of ultron hulk but model prime made thanos bleed and did a much better job against thanos then hulk or any of the suits on the other team could do or dream of doing and thanos hit model prime with the power stone and Tony just brushed it off. Model prime wins high diff only bc of hulkbuster.
Silver Surfer@Tyrannus But I don't think hulk can defeat SS.. there's no way.. SS during real battles creates Suns [like when he did in a fight against knull..] and is capable of absorbing countless levels of energy [including gamma radiation] , hulk will never beat SS in a serious fight to the death.
1. Gene worm seems at first point to be mindless. but i give it more iq because it was said to be the leader of the race x. Nihilanth simply is smarter because he knows about gman know his true motives (can see future), knows what happens in xen, is older
2. Nihilanth is just bigger
3. same as 1
4. Teleportation,orbing, life manipulation,levitation,portal creation,spatial manipulation,mind control, dimesional travel, hive mind, Higher Dimensional Manipulation, supernatural Condition, Omnilingualism, plant control,
5. he is immortal
Team Iron Man (MCU)@Shohabbos Hulkbuster was almost fast enough to keep up with Hulk, who moved fast while Abomination was in slo-mo, and Abomination himself is much faster than sound...
3 Tony's can just hack the suit and self-destruct...
Doomsday (DCEU)@Danyel Yes.. Upon receiving catastrophic injuries from the missile, he not only regenerated, but his body started to mutate further in th emovie, possibly as an adaptive response to the trauma. Thus, the more Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman attack Doomsday, the stronger and more durable he became, also growing in size, making Superman realize that wielding the Kryptonite spear is the only way to stop Doomsday.
(Doomsday also absorbs the tremendous kinetic energy from Superman and Wonder Woman's mighty blows, with their hits therefore only making him stronger and more powerful.) They cannot defeat him without the Kryptonite.
1.Smarter
2. Bigger
3. More expirence
4. More abilities
5. Haxes
6. Better feats (Enslaved entire voriguant race, Hold a rift between dimensons, conquered xen)
Doctor Doom dr. doom is a candidate for sorcerer supreme, and is on par with reed richards in iq, and iron man in technology, and is superior to batman in prep time. dr. doom should win with difficulty
well it said to be a void so maybe infinite size. i know you doing your job i get that but saying nihilanth is tier 2 is stupid. Also nihilanth is more powerful then gene worm who is tier 4 so
he is bro. You told me other thing before: Well from what I've seen so far I've seen things say he is tier 1 more and more, so Tier 6 and 7 seems unlikely. 6 or 7 means he would have the powerful to affect a universe or a multiverse.
Gman has full control over his domain so
Also that argument: Also seeing how Gordon was able to kill nihilanth, then I guess that would mean upgrading him to 6 which he isn't. that most stupid thing i have ever heard. it like saying samurai jack is tier 4 because he killed aku. or that old guy who killed bill cipher is tier 7 it makes no sense. Nihilanth is tier 6 or 7 at best
The feats you showed and told me are range feats, not Attack Potency. Also seeing how Gordon was able to kill nihilanth, then I guess that would mean upgrading him to 6 which he isn't.
Possible doesn't necessarily mean it is true, we don't know for sure he actually created that place. Controlling something and creating something are two different things.
@Tigerking2020 it possible but i think he created it watch video above every time he apperas he seems to creat one . But one thing is for sure he has 100% control over it.
quote from wiki: The G-Man seems to be able to take people into "parallel universe"-like "voids" and put them into stasis; this void is also known as his 'plane'. In most games featuring the G-Man, there are several sequences when he is talking at close range to the player, and various areas can be seen in the background, including areas from Black Mesa or even areas the player will visit later into the game. In these sequences, the G-Man talks to the player (the player's character never responds or reacts in any way, except in Half-Life: Alyx) and can be seen quickly appearing in different portions of the screen, in dream-like sequences. In Half-Life 2: Episode One, Vortigaunts enter the G-Man's plane and hold him back while chanting, which is accompanied by the creation of portal-like structures. This is one of the first instances that the G-Man is seen hindered in his own dimension
Mephisto@Tyrannus - The villain doesn't have to have that hero as his primary focus to still be enemies and be part of their rogues gallery. @2099 mentioned Doctor Doom as well. He is obviously first and foremost mainly a Fantastic Four enemy but that doesn't mean he's not also a Spider-Man villain/enemy as well. They've fought plenty over the years too. Are either Spider-Man's main enemies or vice versa? Of course not, but they are still his enemies and have battled multiple times.
Lord Voldemort If Spider-man defeated Mr. sinister, imagine what would Voldemort do to him. Also Sinister's telepathy wouldn't work on someone who could control every mind in hp verse at the same time.
It said they created a portal and we already have a power for that Portal Creation. Portal Creation is range and not AP. For example I can create a potal from my room to the beach even while I'm a normal human.
but that will not save him.
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1) You admitted your bias by saying he's your favorite
2) You brought up MCU where its a nerfed Smart Hulk who isn't even trying to fight lol...plus he gets his mind controlled in MCU but can't in comics...
3) SS will see in the future that he loses
4) Just like he did in Planet Hulk
5) This Hulk is intelligent and more powerful and skilled than savage Hulk
... The Surfer can harm the hulk's soul in the astral plane and while in the astral plane the hulk cannot harm the Silver Surfer because the astral plane is the SOURCE of Power Cosmic...
And Silver Surfer its literally POWER itself
(Note. you can find all these pics in the silver surfer gallery i put them myself in 2019.. he's my favorite character from marvel.. and i know he takes this one.. hulk doesn't stand a chance.)
Even if the SS cannot kill the hulk's body, it can attack the hulk's soul like when it did with other enemies with extremely resistant bodies like the hulk's.
Or even sealing the hulk in his own Board.
The surfer knows all possible hulk moves hulk will never hurt him because SS can see the future..
https://www.superherodb.com/franklin-richards/10-63/
kid franklin richards
multi-universal or low multiversal tier 7
what the diffrence between universal+ and Multi-Universe ?
Namora is strongher and resistent..
Thor (IW)^ vs Fat Thor^ (the Russos said Fat Thor is the strongest most powerful Thor but IW Thor can summon Mjolnir as well which is one of the main factors of Fat Thor's superior power)
Iron Man^ vs Iron Man Prime^ (they will hack each other and detonate the suits)
Cap^ vs Worthy Cap^ (tie, they're both worthy)
Hawkeye^ vs Ronin^
Black Widow* vs her sister
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Hulk is the deciding factor
2. Nihilanth is just bigger
3. same as 1
4. Teleportation,orbing, life manipulation,levitation,portal creation,spatial manipulation,mind control, dimesional travel, hive mind, Higher Dimensional Manipulation, supernatural Condition, Omnilingualism, plant control,
5. he is immortal
3 Tony's can just hack the suit and self-destruct...
(Doomsday also absorbs the tremendous kinetic energy from Superman and Wonder Woman's mighty blows, with their hits therefore only making him stronger and more powerful.) They cannot defeat him without the Kryptonite.
2. Bigger
3. More expirence
4. More abilities
5. Haxes
6. Better feats (Enslaved entire voriguant race, Hold a rift between dimensons, conquered xen)
Gman has full control over his domain so
Also that argument: Also seeing how Gordon was able to kill nihilanth, then I guess that would mean upgrading him to 6 which he isn't. that most stupid thing i have ever heard. it like saying samurai jack is tier 4 because he killed aku. or that old guy who killed bill cipher is tier 7 it makes no sense. Nihilanth is tier 6 or 7 at best
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