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R165
4 months member
Galactus (Lifebringer) Heart of Multi-Eternity
Tahsin
5 months member
Nyx (House Of Ideas) & Vision (House Of Ideas) Blatantly wrong.
vcowles77
7 months member
The Writer DC underrated VS Marvel overrated.
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Deathstroke_01
18 months member
Darkseid (Anti-Life Equation)







TashPuddle
1 months member
Team Tilotny (SWL) LMAO
Pedrof
15 months member
Team Tilotny (SWL) *Team 2 has a vote...*
TashPuddle
1 months member
Team Tilotny (SWL) LOL
TashPuddle
1 months member
Team Tilotny (SWL) Agreed
ji
6 months member
Cosmic Armor Superman What do you think @R165 about that he said "CAS can't adapt to shit"?
ji
6 months member
Cosmic Armor Superman @Yatharth
Under normal circumstances… Beyonder (Beyonder (Earth-616)) all day. And not because he is more powerful. Just because the Thought Robot (Thought Robot (Object)), aka Cosmic Armor Superman, exists for a very specific purpose… literally “designed for a single purpose. To protect all existence against the ultimate enemy.”


Which is Mandrakk (Monitor Dax Novu). Everything about the Thought Robot is designed for one enemy… in one confrontation. All that power is too narrowly focused.

And realistically I think that, at least in terms of function, it is only capable of combating one enemy… for one fight. Nothing more, nothing less. Beyonder wins because his enemy is literally incapable of using any of the power at its disposal. Maybe even participating in the fight.

Now if we are allowing Beyonder to serve as as stand-in for Mandrakk, I would have to side with the Thought Robot on this one.


Largely because it is powerful on a meta level, that is far beyond most other characters… even those capable of breaking the fourth wall on a normal basis. With powers operating on a purely narrative and/or archetypal level .

Meaning that when operated, it exists as the archetype of all that Superman (Superman (Clark Kent)) is and should be. Created and formed by the story of Superman himself.


By our beliefs and ideas of him. The readers. Creators. And even people with passing knowledge of him. The Thought Robot is how we view Superman, his story, and his role in our culture.

He is deeply connected to the us. Which is evident by the fact that he can hear and sense the reader.


It is supposed to be viewed as existing on a level beyond that of normal literary characters. Like Beyonder for instance. For all of his power he is still a character in a story. With defined limits and capabilities.

Whereas the Thought Robot exists to purely serve the narrative of the story. Literally becoming as strong as he needs to be to face an opponent.


Even as his opponent also increases in strength. Like it is stated in the first image, being “capable of adapting instantly to counter any future threat.”

Meaning that no matter what Beyonder does… however powerful he is/becomes, the Thought Robot will adapt and become stronger. Despite all their powers, Beyonders can be killed. As evident by the events of New Avengers #33 (New Avengers Vol 3 33) and Secret Wars (Secret Wars (2015)). And even the first incarnation is still a character in a story.

Not the concept/archetype of a like the Thought Robot.

At the end of the day, Thought Robot operates on a meta-narrative level that makes it far more powerful than Beyonder could ever be.

So we are left with two options and answers:

If we take the characters as they are, Beyonder wins. Because the Thought Robot serves one purpose… which has nothing to do with the Beyonder. It loses because, in my opinion, it cannot do anything.
If we allow for more freedom on the part of the Thought Robot, than it wins. As it serves the meta-narrative of a story. And exists in a realm above “normal” characters like Beyonder.
Deathstroke_01
18 months member
Raven (Unkindness) (FS) Raven from future state
MoNsTeR
12 months member
Knull i think knull will comeback in short time
shaneherald
16 months member
Knull Not really considering since only one thing can kill knull it seems you have forgotten even the writers said lnull can't die
vcowles77
7 months member
Neutral Look up Ergenverse, Xue Ying verse. Then you’ll know.
shaneherald
16 months member
King Thanos You know he died right
vcowles77
7 months member
Neutral Look up Ergenverse, Xue Ying verse. Then you’ll know.
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MoNsTeR
12 months member
Neutral idk who is Xue Ying so neutral
MoNsTeR
12 months member
Team Odin white phoenix of the crown yes
MoNsTeR
12 months member
Team Odin not really she's hyperversal below moderate feed galactus
Pedrof
15 months member
Team Odin Really? But Phoenix is outer.
TashPuddle
1 months member
@SMPLegendary No matter the cost. YOU GOT THE FORCE YOU GOT THE POWER!!!
SMPLegendary
1 months member
BRO Akhil is nerfing LOTR and Star Wars he needs to be stopped
Pedrof
15 months member
Team Odin I didn't see Phoenix here.
Pedrof
15 months member
I'm getting tired of Akhil doing this. I've already proved that GM Luke is complex multiversal, but he was tier 7 and even so he lowered his stats.
TashPuddle
1 months member
Marvel fans these days...
MoNsTeR
12 months member
akhil: not on my watch
TashPuddle
1 months member
Why is Grand Master Luke now 288K. He was 30M
Pedrof
15 months member
The name of the character.
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Deathstroke_01
18 months member
Vegeta (Super Saiyan Blue Evolved) SSBE=SSBkk>>>ASSJ=KKSSJ
Deathstroke_01
18 months member
Raven (Unkindness) (FS) Raven got a huge buff
Tahsin
5 months member
Hey @Ezio add this picture pls
SMPLegendary
1 months member
Melkor (True Form) @Galactus Akhil's abusing his role, and he's scared to debate with me.
ET9
1 months member
world war hulk