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vonKonigsberg
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Galactus Believe what you want to believe, but no one accepts author statements as holy writ, except seemingly you. Because authors aren't always correct and misremember thing.
vonKonigsberg
51 months member
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Team Beyonder He really doesn't. I will grant max Luke at Galaxy level. Any more is preposterous. And when I look into Abeloth, people put that one between multi solar system to galaxy. Which, is much lower than any of these characters. I understand you want your favorite franchise to be the best and strongest in all of creation, but it just isn't. I love Ultraman and Godzilla, but you don't see me strolling in and saying Godzilla can kill Superman because he took a hit from the dimension tide that one time and a character surmised that could possibly maybe destroy a solar system.
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Meerrahmat
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Kurse (MCU) @RajinKabir kurse literally change direction of mjoiner and thor say no one can change mjoiner direction and superman already take kraptonait mean this Time superman already weak and we see wonder woman no seriouse in fight and pre wakand Thor more powerful than man of steel superman and wonder woman and kurse any punches shake the all planet
Meerrahmat
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Makkari (MCU) In movie flash can't do this and makkari literally cross earth multiple time in 4 second and movie makkari easily faster than speed of light
Starwarsfanboynotbiased
1 months member
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Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) because he does lol, by dark empire, luke is easily solar system level and probably way above, and he gets more and power powerful each time we see him to the point he overpowered abeloths force essence and that wasnt even his prime lol, crucible luke is his prime who would defeat abeloth on his own or with slight help
Starwarsfanboynotbiased
1 months member
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Team Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) not if the authors statement is about explaining something from their own book? so the text has already been established and its being explained, so therefore the authors say is 100% valid
vonKonigsberg
51 months member
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Team Beyonder Hey now, you're the one arguing in favor of Luke Skywalker beating an entire multiverse. That's diving into the microverse right there to find whatever speck of intellect drives the husk of your person.
vonKonigsberg
51 months member
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Galactus That's not even remotely the same thing. The only thing that can be considered is what happens in the story. Because sometimes authors forget things (looking at you Toriyama) or don't know the full context of the universe they are writing in. Or they just really want to hype up their story. But then you look at what has actually happened in that canon and it turns out what the author said is not true. So yes, author statements are and almost always will be worthless.
Starwarsfanboynotbiased
1 months member
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Team Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) bro brought his entire squad to deal with me

bruh if youre gonna correct my grammar, correct yours first lmao

they're not the ones who need lessons.

*He's not the one who needs lessons.
Starwarsfanboynotbiased
1 months member
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Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) yeah lets not do it, the comedians will have nowhere else to show their atom sized intellect
masterking2
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Galactus they're not the ones who need lessons.
*you
*they're
Starwarsfanboynotbiased
1 months member
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Team Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) not convince one person? tell that to those i discuss on discord with, 98% of the people i show my scale to end up agreeing to it, I'll send u the screenshots to if u doubt it
Starwarsfanboynotbiased
1 months member
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Team Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) take reading classes i urge you

bruh, u dont need feats to back up a statement from an author, thats like calling your dad a liar because
he said he can fly a plane even when he has showed u his degrees and all the proof but u dont believe him cuz he hasnt done it yet
voidstone
10 months member
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Doctor strange:Multiverse of madness
vonKonigsberg
51 months member
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Team Beyonder @MoNsTeR let's not denigrate the circus now.
vonKonigsberg
51 months member
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Galactus So it is an external power source then. Thank you.

Yes, the words are worth nothing. If I wrote a story, got it published and then said "X character is the most powerful being to ever exist period." does not make it true if the feats do not back it up.

And you've debunked nothing. You're just an exceptionally bad debater who has managed to convince not one single solitary person that your stance is correct.
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Starwarsfanboynotbiased
1 months member
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Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) oh! arent u the guy who leaves mid debate cuz u know u get slammed in every debate u have with me
MoNsTeR
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Team Beyonder if vonKonigsberg is comedian you should be whole circus lmfao
masterking2
9 months member
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The One-Above-All in what world?
Starwarsfanboynotbiased
1 months member
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Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) youre a good comedian
Starwarsfanboynotbiased
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Team Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) well yes they do indicate, but thats not their only purpose lol, watch the phantom menace or read darth plagueis novel, the midichlorians are connected with the force and allow u to use the force

bruh, so youre saying the words of the very person who created a marvel comic for example is worth nothing? lol ok

I have debunked all your counter arguments
MoNsTeR
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more than a billion at least
vonKonigsberg
51 months member
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Team Beyonder Honestly, any of these characters would destroy the low power Star Wars universe.
vonKonigsberg
51 months member
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Galactus No, Midichlorians are just an indicator of a person's force sensitivity. The people do not generate their own force powers. You can have it one of two ways, it is an external force they manipulate or an internal force they generate, not both.

Author statements are worth nothing. Always have been, always will be. Unless Knull has suddenly become the most powerful villain in Marvel history just because Donny Cates says so.

I have disproven your arguments because they hold water about as well as toilet paper.
Starwarsfanboynotbiased
1 months member
156
Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) and the verse
Starwarsfanboynotbiased
1 months member
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Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) and the verse
vonKonigsberg
51 months member
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Dr Manhattan (Doomsday Clock) (Rebirth)
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Starwarsfanboynotbiased
1 months member
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Team Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) ... I can debunk your entire external/internal powers argument by 3 words: A New Hope

Obi wan said in a new hope the force penetrates us, so therefore it is internal, and also every sw being has Midichlorians which is what enables u to use the force and theyre internal

yeah because some statements are hyperbolic, but would u say a statement from the author to an explicit question is hyperbolic or when there are feats that show clear omnipotence?

your arguments are all rash prove nothing but that u cant disprove anything ive said
Galactus
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It was still pulling that info from the old database table. It's fixed.
Faz
0 months member
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The One-Above-All & Michael Demiurgos The one above all solo
Faz
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Dr Manhattan (Doomsday Clock) (Rebirth) Doctor Manhattan wins easily
Faz
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Team The One-Above-All I don't think it's a comparison
Drunks
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Knull Fenris near Skyfathers level but Knull surpassed many the Celestials excluding the extremely powerful Celestial. Arishem will even be more than capable stomps Fenris because Arishem alone able defeat 3 Skyfathers without any effort and Knull has been shown to defeat Arishem even 2 others and controlled them.
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Faz
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The One Below All The one below all wins easily
Drunks
0 months member
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Knull Knull = low abstract level
Scathan = more than Knull
Tiamut = more than Knull

But I think Knull is above surpassing many the Celestials including Exitar.
MoNsTeR
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Iron Fist (MCU) iron fist>daredevil>kingpin
Drunks
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Exitar The Executioner Exitar would stomps Arishem, he even is more bigger than Arishem lol
MoNsTeR
19 months member
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Knull i just don't think he can defeat eternity or infinity
wade
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The One-Above-All Solos the verse
MoNsTeR
19 months member
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Knull if we don't use scathan>protege>living tribunal>abstracts no
Drunks
0 months member
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Knull @MoNsTeR please answer?