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DeanDinosaur6
40 months member
Sentry I personally say Sentry because of his immortality and molecule manipulation.
Pedrof
15 months member
Goku (Manga) @DeanDinosaur6 Debate?
BlotskyA
21 months member
we could've gotten at least Flashbacks which really wouldn't hurt because we're seeing Uncle Ben for a Few Minutes
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BlotskyA
21 months member
The Main Reason DCEU is under is because Alot of People love the MCU and don't realize that sometimes its better not follow Other Films Tone because it would then separate the two
cw6334
36 months member
@BlotskyA you know you may be right that could have really made an interesting or different kind of arc for Peter. I just think that Spider-Man in Sam Raimi and The Amazing series already did Uncle Ben and one of them did it well and honestly just having a singular Spider-Man story showing Peter focused on Uncle Ben or those motivations might have deterred from the wider universe because Spider-Man: Homecoming was more of a coming of age type of story or finding your purpose.
cw6334
36 months member
The only reason that DCEU is under MCU for me is just because the executives at WB and AT&T have to micromanage everything instead of letting someone have artistic intent and create something. Why they felt they needed to catch the MCU numbers so fast is beyond me. If the DCEU would have just waited til after Endgame and then went ahead with Man of Steel 2, Wonder Woman, The Batman, Aquaman, The Flash, Cyborg, The Green Lantern film, etc. They could have built something truly great but greed is the evil of all isn't it?
ThorMathews
24 months member
Thor(obviously) Beta Ray Bill, Captain America, Wonder Woman, I'd argue also Hercules (Warrior, noble, willing to kill)
cw6334
36 months member
I think we might be talking about something different here. Let me give an example.

The movie Jumper isn't a great film and here is why. Entertainment wise it is probably about a 7/10 for me which is 'good' so I find that movie to be entertaining but I don't like the writing, the acting, or the directing. So that is an example of film that's entertaining but not a good movie.

A movie that is good but also entertaining for 'what it is' as you say is Thor Ragnarok I will use because that is the example you did. The entertainment factor is really high up there, the writing is good, the directing was good (Taika did good turning the franchise around into something people could enjoy and NOT take itself too seriously), the acting was fantastic as I think it is in most films. This is an example of where the entertainment factor or "badassery" as you said helps bring a film up.
BlotskyA
21 months member
Spider-Man without Uncle Ben could work if Only the Writers actually establish Uncle Ben and seeing how much Bens death affected Peter, its so insulting to the comics to make a Spider-Man Film without at least flashbacks to Uncle Ben, I Would've used Flashbacks to show how much Ben was to Peter and how his Death Affected him to be a Better Person
Pedrof
15 months member
Yeah 🤦‍♂️
cw6334
36 months member
Well if you look at my statement above. Do you want it to just copy comic panels? I am pretty sure even Stan Lee was quoted before his untimely death stating that he liked that these stories are different from his own.

If you have watched Civil War there is a whole scene of him talking about his 'M.O.' and why he wants to be Spider-Man. I hope you know they are also building a spider-verse so you can look forward to that, I am sure they will explore all that in Spider-Man No Way Home.

So you disliked Thor's character arc as a whole? I thought it was fine.

Oh yeah you mean like the time where they threw comedy into the Bucky Captain America and Iron Man fight? Or whenever everyone was snapped away. Or whenever Iron Man snapped his fingers? Or when Hulk beat Abomination? There is a balance there are badass things we have gotten, sad, happy, comedic, etc.
BlotskyA
21 months member
the DCEU is not great because People apparently hate violent and Dark Superhero Stories 🤦‍♂️
ThorMathews
24 months member
@cw6334 you can be entertained by something for what it is. For example Thor Ragnarok yeah it's entertaining and fun but it could have been a whole lot better. Not all movies have the epic x factor to them that's how I know if something is truly great. You said there were movies that were truly up there with the greats
ThorMathews
24 months member
@cw6334 they replaced uncle Ben with Iron Man. They haven't even said his name, they didn't have to show his death again but Spider-man isn't Spider-man without uncle Ben it's the main point of his character, just like Bruce wayne's parents. I've heard that bullshit before and it's a poor excuse. I'm talking about Thor in endgame and Thors movies, they didn't do Asgard and Thor as a character justice. Hulk needs his own movies and should have a goddamn healing factor at least. The nick Fury thing is an example of how Marvel undercuts things, they choose comedy over badassery.
cw6334
36 months member
If you are entertained and you like the writing, the directing, the cinematography, the acting, etc. Do you not think it is a good film then?
ET9
1 months member
I have not played the wrath of Asura, but I know that in this game the bosses are stronger than those in the god of war.
MaseTheFace
0 months member
Swamp Thing Swamp Thing just seems more powerful and MT doesn't really have a way to take him down for good.
cw6334
36 months member
Good to know you were going to answer the question for me. So you legitimately believe that if you are entertained by something, you enjoyed, and you like it then you don't believe it to be a good film? Come on now.

Did you not just read my post? I said I do not believe them to be the pinnacle of cinema. I believe Avengers Infinity War and Endgame are two really great film. You don't I get that. I still don't get why because all you have ever said was 'it is disappointing' or 'the rude treatment of Thor'.
ThorMathews
24 months member
That's not what this is about the Dceu is also not amazing lmao
ThorMathews
24 months member
@cw6334 just because you're entertained doesn't mean a movie is truly great. Name one that is the pinnacle of cinema? One that's on par with Christopher Nolans work? Or the lord of the rings movies? Exactly there aren't any.
cw6334
36 months member
Asura's Wrath then
ET9
1 months member
god of war 3
cw6334
36 months member
God of War ps4? Or which one?
cw6334
36 months member
Arkham is better right now, we will see where Spiderman goes
SuperSomebody
1 months member
It takes a joke character to beat a joke character.
Captain Underpants is a joke character so he can beat Squirrel Girl
SSpiderGwen
4 months member
@Xerodeep Alright It was kind of dumb to put her at that level. 93 is better but it still needs improvement. Yeah she can't lift 25 because she didn't prove that but they did say she can lift only 10. I thought her speed should be more increased because she can dodge bullets. And also it's easy for her to disable guns, baseball bats, She also is stealthy as well. She one time entered a bank that was filled with robbers and they didn't catch her on the top of the wall. For combat I guess that can remain the same. I thought her power should be more increased too because she can enter the Gwenom anytime she wants. I don't know if Gwenom should be a separate profile because it comes from her suit. So I mean I really want to ignore that other profile for her.
cw6334
36 months member
I think what makes projects good is that they are their own and if they are written well. That is what makes Arrow good. It is based upon comic stories and characters but what makes it good is that it has its own artistic intention. I think that is what makes all these shows and movies good is that they don't copy the comics panel for panel. That is why I wasn't a big fan of Zack Snyder's Watchmen, I love Watchmen the book and it was cool to see it on screen but I felt like it didn't do anything different and the thing it tried to do differently was bad lol.
cw6334
36 months member
Me too. Both have great stories.
ET9
1 months member
I'm a Marvel and DC fan
cw6334
36 months member
MCU's Spider-Man wasn't supposed to be about Uncle Ben and the overall origin story because we already got two movie series that focused on that. Kevin Feige has been quoted specifically talking about that. That doesn't make the Spider-Man in the MCU 'bad'. The disrespect to Thor, you mean like the scene where he almost beat Thanos w/ the infinity gauntlet mind you on his own? Seems pretty disrespectful to me. Kevin Feige has also been quoted saying he didn't want Hulk to be too powerful in these movies because they didn't just want a cop out on how to beat every villain. I can agree that Captain Marvel wasn't the best film, I still believe it to be better than The Dark World though. Her character was just weirdly written to be this brooding overarching female hero but whenever we got the scene in Endgame where her and Peter had that TINY and I do mean TINY little banter together then she truly had moment where she felt part of the universe, I hope that continues. The Nick Fury thing, I don't really know why that's such a big deal like yeah of course I thought it was weird but I didn't really care that much. I don't know if you are personally just looking at everything at a surface level but there is story and depth within almost every character and I say almost because I know that isn't the case all of the time. There is a lot if interweaving and melded parts of many different stories to build this one cohesive whole that has created some fantastic films. I am really generous whenever it comes to films and filmmaking because I can always look to see good parts instead of always pointing out the bad so I rank movies probably a bit higher than most people do but I can't help that is how I watch movies.
cw6334
36 months member
I don't pretend like these movies are the pinnacle of cinema either. By that I mean all of them, I think there are a few movies that are truly up there with the greats but not all of them in the MCU I mean.
cw6334
36 months member
Daredevil the show I presume you mean? But you heard it here first, if something is entertaining it can't also be considered a good movie. That is what you just said. You also are mad because Ragnarok didn't truly destroy Thor and everyone.

If you are entertained and you enjoy a film, then it did its job. That is what makes movies good, great, or even bad. MCU has done that for 13 years.
SuperSomebody
1 months member
@UnusOf2029
Here is Superman (DCEU) vs Captain Underpants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxShYEwacV8
SuperSomebody
1 months member
@UnusOf2029
Here is Godzilla vs Cattus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RfoNNSAlos&t=22s
AkhilPDX
52 months member
Mangog is probably the strongest out of the standard ones.
ThorMathews
24 months member
Warrior madness Thor
ThorMathews
24 months member
You're kidding? Mangog has taken on all of Asgard including Odin himself. Mangog fucking destroys Hulk
ThorMathews
24 months member
Wonder Woman is the only dc character I can think of. Anybody who says Batman or Superman are worthy don't know their shit
Fi
0 months member
Multi-Oblivion & Oblivion Agreed... mostly the latter character on Team 2.
SuperSomebody
1 months member
@Savage no I just like the picture it should be the profile pic
SuperSomebody
1 months member
Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, realllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, ya suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure it's overrated?
Ok I'm a Marvel Fan that's the point but how is it overrated I wanna know.
SuperSomebody
1 months member
Bond...
James Bond
SuperSomebody
1 months member
@Masterking2 Mace Windu?
SuperSomebody
1 months member
Cosmic Immortal Hulk