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vcowles77
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Because Tolkien's cosmology is at max complex multiversal then I guess to outerversal which is a massive extension. These stats now make much more sense now.
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Vers05
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That doesn't matter. Omnipotent is Omnipotent. Omnipotent means you can do anything and there are no limits.
Vers05
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Eru is omnipotent. Why he is depowered ?
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LadyGaladriel1212
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Because one user opinion is more than everyone else's.
LadyGaladriel1212
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Bruh😭😭😭 these stats are BS!
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Also if Eru won't be omnipotent Hajun shouldn't be either because Hajun achieved omnipotence which isn't even possible since you can't achieve omnipotence and that tumor that gave him "omnipotence" was taken away from him
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LadyGaladriel1212
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once again I also agree
Mandos9452
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I can also make that argument for Elaine Belloc as well.
Tigerking2020
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I would put Hajun at Nigh-Omnipotent, Nigh-Omniscience, and Nigh-Omnipresence Tier 10. I was thinking he should be below Omnipotent as well.
Mandos9452
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@tigerking2020 You literally told me That you need to be omnipotent to be tier 10... As that's why you edited Erus stats.
Tigerking2020
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You can be Nigh-Omnipotent Tier 10, But not Omnipotent Tier 9. Tier comes before nigh-omnipotence or omnipotence.
Mandos9452
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i see
Tigerking2020
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Yeah like for example if someone is Tier 4(Planet to Star Level) and is omnipotent, it wouldn't make any sense. Only Tier 10 the highest tier on here should qualify for Omnipotence.
ubslucky
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Imo...the tier should not at all correlate if a character can be omnipotent or not.
Just because something does not exist in a fictional universe, for example an 'omniverse', this does not have to mean a character can not be omnipotent.
vcowles77
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There should be a discussion forum regarding pure omnipotent character classification for tier 9 or tier 10.
vcowles77
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And again, there is a massive difference between the Masadaverse and the LOTR's Masadaverse reaching 1-A to tier 0 while Tolkien's cosmology reaching 2-C to 2A. There is no way that LOTR can reach 1-A, in fact not even close to Hyperversal level lmao.
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Mandos9452
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His stats should not have lowered...
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xrpl320
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I agree.
Eru obviously transcends all concepts and all dualities (== all of existence), because he created them all in the very first place - and by doing so he proved he was capable of existing in the absence of all concepts and in the absence of all dualities (== all of existence).
He's also stated / confirmed omnipotent by the author of the setting, and in the absence of clear anti-feats or clear anti-statements (e.g. Eru suddenly retconning himself and revealing that there are certain things not even he could do) the definition of the author should remain valid.
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RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Bruh he is omnipotent, Tolkien said it himself
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TOBA
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If you ask me beyonder should be all-powerful for Eru I don't know.
LadyGaladriel1212
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Yeah I agree it is BS.
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RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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@TOBA Pre retcon one should be omnipotent i agree i mean you are the one who made me figure that out
Mandos9452
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@Ratniknasjeveru2005 @toba Well if you think about it Eru and the beyonder are somewhat similar...
xrpl320
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I agree
Eru - just like all other characters of the supreme creator archetype - created all that is (+ all concepts such as time, space, dimensions, life, death and even the very concept of duality ofc) - and therefore Eru (and all other creator archetypes) proved beyond any doubts that he transcends all that is 100% (+ transcends all concepts) , because obviously Eru was capable of existing and of accomplishing feats even in the absence of all (+ in the absence of all concepts) (before the very act of creation)
There are other properties and powers that come automatically (and are implied) for all characters who are of the supreme creator archetype:

(1) Acausality
Another term for this would be Primordial Existence.
It means that such a being can exist before and without any other causes that preceded it.
I know that in other fandom wikis this term is given way too easily and inflationary to all sorts of characters who clearly are nowhere near acausal , because the very moment they are the result or the product of a story which followed the rules of the concept of causality they can no longer be Acausal.

(2) Transduality
It's worth only 1 point here on SHDB, when in fact it should be worth more than Nigh-Omnipotence. It's almost always a power that's only owned by Omnipotent Beings who can exist , act and accomplish feats (e.g. create) even in the very absence of logic and reason. Against a Transdual Being it's already by definition impossible to determine whether they have lost or won a battle (they transcend the very Lose-Win Duality, too, after all)

For Eru it was also obviously confirmed by the author himself that this being is omnipotent,
and that Eru was modelled after well-known Supreme Beings from religions / mythologies for which we better avoid a debate whether they are omnipotent or not, because their lengthy & mysterious stories are actually what defined the very Trope of what constitutes Omnipotence (they defined the meaning of the term) in the first place.

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On the other hand I think there's nothing wrong with also being truthful about the actual size of the universe Eru created (the Tolkien Verse), it's fine to give Eru a lower attack potency tier than the supreme creators or destroyes of much bigger settings (Marvel, DC).
More attack potency and being from a bigger setting should NOT be mistaken as a possible counter to Eru's Special Powers, which include Acausality / Duality Transcendence (already these two are almost impossible to counter with strength alone) and Omnipotence (there is no counter to this.
Not even a Attack Tier 10 being which has even only 1 weakness (e.g. higher ups in its own verse) can possibly ever hope to defeat even only a Tier 1 Omnipotent Being with no weaknesses.
Yes.
Even a possible supreme + omnipotent + acausal + transdual creator of only a Tier-1 anthill (let's call her the Ant Goddess) would totally (and by definition of "Omnipotence") stomp a non-omnipotent Tier-10 Megaverse Buster without even trying.
That's just what HAX and broken powers (and Omnipotence is the most broken one) is all about.
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LadyGaladriel1212
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I really dont care that he is not omnipotent because It is debatable whether he is or not but He should at least be tier 10 nigh omnipotent.
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LadyGaladriel1212
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@Tigerking2020
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@Mandos9452 said he was Tier 9(Outer) so I think that would be enough for now.
LadyGaladriel1212
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im not going to bitch about it but should be tier 10 not tier nine @Mandoes9452 was wrong, he should at least be tier ten nigh omnipotent
Tigerking2020
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How is he Tier 10?
LadyGaladriel1212
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because he is omnipotent, he is above his own narrative meaning his is on tier with his own author like the (TOAA) he be at LEAST tier 10. Tolkien implied Eru was a bigger writing than himself.
Tigerking2020
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I recommend bringing it up to @Monster as well to see what he thinks, I can't edit or unlock because it's locked for me.
LadyGaladriel1212
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Im not trying to be a Karen or anything lol but he needs at least tier 10, well see what monster thinks.
MoNsTeR
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i said already he's low outerversal max
LadyGaladriel1212
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@Monster since Eru is literally the writer of his own story shouldn't he be tier ten?
"The Other Power then took over: the Writer of the Story (by which I do not mean myself), 'that one ever-present Person who is never absent and never named'."
-Source. Tolkeins letter 192.
Personally I thought tier 9 omnipotent was perfect I there was no reason for it to be changed
MoNsTeR
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that's what i said
LadyGaladriel1212
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Personally I think we should just change him back to Tier 9 omnipotent but these stats are still better than what they used to be(16b).
Mandos9452
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@tigerking2020 I said he should be at least Outer(tier 9) I have also made it clear if other supreme beings are tier 10. Logically he should be as well. As well as omnipotent. Although imo tier 10 nobody truly deserves
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vcowles77
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well the only reason why he was 16B was because of being tier 7 and nigh omnipotent.
LadyGaladriel1212
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IK
Tigerking2020
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@MoNsTeR could you re-unlock, there's an error I made.
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MoNsTeR
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add omnipresence
Tigerking2020
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How is he omnipresent, his speed immeasurable last I looked.
MoNsTeR
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vsbattle is wrong
Tigerking2020
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https://omniversal-battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Eru_Il%C3%BAvatar#:~:text=Eru%20Il%C3%BAvatar%20is%20the%20creator,could%20have%20his%20own%20creations.

It says he is immeasurable on Omniversal Battlefield which can be arguably more reliable than vs battles.
Tigerking2020
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If you still want me to add it then I will.
MoNsTeR
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if we trust this website then every herald character should be tier 5 solar system level. 😂
Mandos9452
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I would argue that even the Ainur's true forms have infinite speed. Its pretty self-explanatory that he is at the bare minimum omnipresence.
Tigerking2020
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^^Good point, lets pretty much do our research. OK then I'll add omnipresent.
Tigerking2020
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Oh you already did it nevermind.
Doomsday
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Eru is Tier 9 Can someone please inform me exactly that he is indeed Outerversal?
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Mandos9452
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Eru iluvatar is outerversal as he exists completly outside his creation.
Quote "That should mean that he was put outside Time and Space, outside Ea altogether; but if that were so this would imply a direct intervention of Eru (with or without supplication of the Valar)"
Eru is considered the Main writer of the story even when compared to the Author
"The Other Power then took over: the Writer of the Story (by which I do not mean myself), 'that one ever-present Person who is never absent and never named'."
-Source. Tolkeins letter 192.

Eru Ilúvatar or The One is the single omniscient and omnipotent creator. He has been existing eternally in the Timeless halls and possesouss in his spirit which kindles existence from nothingness. He is Omnipotent.
Eru exists in a place where he Valar(The beings who created he Ea(The Universe/multiverse) Cannot even get to him
"by which the author, while remaining 'outside' and independent of his work, also 'indwells' in it, on its derivative plane, below that of his own being, as the source and guarantee of its being”
Is beyond time and concepts
"that should mean that he was put outside Time and Space, outside Ea altogether; but if that were so this would imply a direct intervention of Eru (with or without supplication of the Valar). It may however refer inaccurately * to the extrusion or flight of his spirit from Arda.”
His power is considered Boundless:
"none of us know, though the Valar may know, the future of Arda, or how long it is ordained to endure. But it will not endure for ever. It was made by Eru, but He is not in it. The One only has no limits. Arda, and Eä itself, must therefore be bounded.
Eru is Infinitely bigger than the multiverse
But you speak of Eru entering arda, which is surely another matter how could he do so, who is Infinity greater: would it not shatter Arda or indeed Ea?" Note when they if he entered it, meaning he is BEYOND it as a whole. Along with dwarfing it in Size!

Sources i used were Tolkiens letters, and some of the books. Including the Silmarinion.
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Tigerking2020
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I agree with Tier 9, but disagree with Omnipotent. Omnipotent means all therefore he has to be Tier 10(Omniversal) to qualify.
Mandos9452
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"I agree with Tier 9, but disagree with Omnipotent. Omnipotent means all therefore he has to be Tier 10(Omniversal) to qualify".
Omniversal does not even exist in fiction to begin with. i would even go as far as saying they never should have put it in the database.
Anyway, Eru is no less omnipotent as any other supreme being. but i respect your opinion.
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Tigerking2020
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It wasn't my decision to add Tier 10, It was added in that way we can get to 10 Tiers.
Mandos9452
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Technically there is 11 tiers now... 0-10.
Tigerking2020
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0 Means they fit none of the 10 tiers, So it doesn't count.
Mandos9452
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Well my point still stands. i respect their decision of adding "Omniversal" although imo it does not exist in fiction. And if it did Eru deserves it more than most from being on tier with his own Author...
vcowles77
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@Mandos9452 @Tigerking2020 is right. You cannot claim that someone is omnipotent just based on authors words. Eru would be best at complex multiversal because there is no eevidence (actual scan wise) that he can reach outerversal feats.
vcowles77
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I would put Eru at Tier 8 nigh omnipotent at best. But I am sure that every user has different opinions about the tier scalings.
LadyGaladriel1212
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@vcowless77 no there is evidence and I have shown my multiple quotes to prove it to you in past discussions, you are just stubborn and always think you are right while in reality you are the one who is wrong. Eru is omnipotent or at least tier 10 Nigh omnipotent
Mandos9452
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@Vcowles77 I am not going to argue with you as i have done so already.
Outerverse is a term coined within this wiki to refer to any reality that transcends all concepts of dimensions. For a more in-depth analysis, outerversal realities are those whose nature is conceptually different from time and space (of any size and complexity), that is, they are completely transcendental in relation to physics. They can be described as a meta-abstraction (formless, intangible reality), which makes them completely non-physical in relation to any higher dimensional reality.

Taken From the Charecters Wiki. Nothing is mention about being able to destroy universes or create infinite amount universes(Which is something he could do anyway) Eru is beyond space, Realty, time, Dimensions, ETC. How can he not be Outerversal? The Valar Who created he Multiverse(Who CANNOT REACH HIM)? Not make Him outerversal? Its common sense not only because tolkein stated this, but if the Valar were able to communicate with eru whenever they wanted, they certainly would have taken that opportunity.
"Eru would be best Complex multiversal because there is no evidence that he can reach outerversal feats. You can be able to destroy infitinte amount of Universes an still not be Outersersal if you Exist within of the Universe. Eru exists outside of it as he cannot even fit into it
But you speak of Eru entering arda, which is surely another matter how could he do so, who is Infinity greater: would it not shatter Arda or indeed Ea?" Note when they if he entered it, meaning he is BEYOND it as a whole.
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vcowles77
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Your logic is wrong. The valar who created infinite multiverses does not makes you outerversal it makes you scale to Multiversal+. There is a massive difference between outversal scalings to Mutliversal+ scalings. Here is how this works 2-C is low multiversal 2-B is multiversal to multiversal+ 2A is multiversal+ 1-C is considered complex multiversal 1-B is considered Hyperversal 1-A is considered Outerversal. 0 is boundless but again this tiering system you cannot have everyone reaching boundless (pure omnipotent) and instead would go to being outerversal or omniversal. But then again Eru does NOT reach anywhere near 1-B to tier 0. Eru is at best 2A to 1-C, so therefore being beyond as a whole does not make you actually omnipotent, instead there would be lack of feats (actual feats (real scans) again are more important, effective and useful to classify than (many statements of authors words).
Mandos9452
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i going to say this as nice as i can, your being Delusional its actually pretty embarrassing. your not even reading my comments. I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE VALAR CREATING INFIDENTE UNIVERSES! and i agree, it does not make use outerversal even if they did or could. i explained why ERU is outerversal. You are twisting my words and ignoring my evidence. Stop replaying because you are only embarrassing yourself. Either way im not going to reply.
Trigon
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New editing for Eru Iluvatar ​up to 1B Please.
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Doomsday
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Why?
vcowles77
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Eru should be around that scale
vcowles77
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Because it is more reasonable to not put infinite power.
Trigon
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Eru is just such a strong creative deity that he can't get into his design because he's bigger than him. he also stands higher than his own writer. he reigns over the multiverse and sees it as a Fiction. and that's still good. I hope Middle-earth fans will be surprised by my comment here.
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vcowles77
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Not surprised by me.
Trigon
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Eru is tier 12. He literally made so many DC fans rage
This It comes from a Latin expression
make a little Eru Tier 5 that Universal.
Atemporal
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Organic is Back.
Atemporal
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All of that has been debunked
Organic returns to Comic Vine to continue using your 10 alts
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vcowles77
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Oh my and here we go again.
Atemporal
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No one is omnipotent in DC, it's not like they need it to stomp other characters.
Mr_Incognito
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Alright, let’s see here.
1. That was part of the presence’s plan. He wasn’t actually killed.
2. The Writer wrote for the werewolf to attack him, not only that but that was just the avatar of the writer who wrote himself into stories that the other writers controlled.
3. That’s not the leviathan
4. So what? “Shock” doesn’t debunk omniscience.
dcm
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@Atemporal honestly I like DC more than marvel but stop being toxic
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@Atemporal
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ICVonDoom
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You don't get it?
Atemporal
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I don't understand the language of people with *****
Trigon
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Dreams of soloing the whole Marvel.
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Why peoplle dont understand concept of omnipotence? Feats doesn't matter when you are Omnipotent. Being omniversal is one of things and if i can everything i can be omniversal anytime, that how omnipotence works. Also eru is alegory of cristian god whois also omnipotent, they both didn't create multiverse because they dont want it, not because they couldn't.
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vcowles77
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Yeah I figured their was a direct tie to Christian religion when it came to this outerversal omnipotence thing on Eru.
masterking2
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so is the presence
also feats help us understand if a being is omnipotent or what its limits are
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Author never stated presence is omnipotent, that why we use feats, but none of feat couldn't made you omnipotent. Personally i think presence is omnipotent
Atemporal
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The Presence transcends the entire verse, what feats do you want the most? In comic he was declared Omnipotent, Lucifer (An Omniscient being) also declared him Omnipotent.
If we go for statements on Twitter, interviews, comics, the Presence is Omnipotent. But high-level DC debaters don't use Omnipotence to justify victories over other characters unlike Marvel fans who use conflicting statements from writers on twitter.
vcowles77
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Galactus in comics stated to being omnipotent. Lol!
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masterking2
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odin declared himself omnipotent
you can be right without disrespecting a character.
Atemporal
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Do you even know what Omnipotence means in Marvel?

Buy yourself a brain and stop spamming users, Galactus is trash and is denied by fodders in DC lol
masterking2
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brains cost 5000 and im broke
Kvothe404
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Yes that right in marvel , but there are clearly sings galactus isn't omnipotent, but lotr is a different story.
Also can you show good shop where i can buy good brain?
masterking2
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males cost 5000
females 200
Kvothe404
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When titans took presence power (they didn't take in reality) lucifer said they were omnipotent, lucifer (nigh-omnipotent) view presence as omnipotent that why i think presence is omnipotent
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Marvel fans always use false equivalences. they believe that by their physics-illmitted fodders they are declared "Omnipotent" invalidates any statement without contradictions in other verses of Omnipotence.
I know it pains them that TOAA is not omnipotent and that is the only wank they can invent to make it stand out. because his cosmolgy is nothing impressive.
Marvel has already told them to their faces that Omnipotence is used for beings that far surpass other sentient beings.
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Kvothe404
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Me too
Kvothe404
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Also authors word>characters word about himself
masterking2
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presense=biblical god
eru=biblical god=writer
toaa=writer

take a breath and actually read what we said
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Idk about marvel i only read DC i admit lotr cosmology is trash and other being aren't comaramble to high ranked dc charachters for exaple maybe dream solos lotr(beside eru), but eru is different story he is writer of verse and stated omnipotent but his feats isn't comaparable for examples michaels
Kvothe404
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If we talk only about feats michael solo stomp Lotr
Kvothe404
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And also i know that marvels is overated
masterking2
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why trash marvel?
Kvothe404
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Idk about cosmology but comics aren't trash i want to read secret wars and overated doesn't mean trash
Kvothe404
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Mcu is kinda overated peoplle say it comparable to lotr and star wars(writing wise)
Kvothe404
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Also atemporal i have one question. By you logic eru solos marvel? Cuz he is far beyond physic and view physics layers as fiction
Mandos9452
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"Then the other power took over: The writer of the story(which I do not mean myself, " that one Ever present person who is never absent and never named.
Tolkien implies Eru as the main writer and not himself.
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vcowles77
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Same connection to Stan Lee and The One Above All.
Mandos9452
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Pretty much
SuperSomebody
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Who's dis dude
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Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 24 d
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That databases punching bag
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Nah Kami Tenchi is for some reason punching bag here anyways Eru is God in LOTR
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I still Think it doesn't deserve tier 10.
9 at best.
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Tigerking2020
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If he's omnipotent, then he should have Tier 10.
Trigon
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I agree. 9 is a better Tier , but it is best to be around Tier 8 or 4
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The size of its verse must also be considered. I mean how many universes are in Tolkien verse? then Multiversal, then Complex Multiversal, then ...
It should be around Man Of Miracles stat.
Tigerking2020
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@Ezio Every other pure omnipotent character on here is Tier 10, It be OK to keep him there.
Tigerking2020
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You'd have to switch it to Nigh-Omnipotent if you put him below 10.
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@Tigerking2020 With that "pure omnipotent character" you said, you lost your chance to give lucifer tier 10.
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@Ezio I'm sorry I mispoke. I'd give Eru Tier 10 Nigh-Omnipotent and Lucifer Tier 10 Night Omnipotent.
Tigerking2020
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@Ezio What chance did I ever had to edit Lucifer, I never asked you about him.
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Concept of omnipotence is you can everything you have allpower. Being omniversal is one of the power and if you have allpower that mean you can be omniversal anytime. Eru doesn't create multiverse because he doesn't want it,not because he cann't.
LadyGaladriel1212
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In think tier 9 works perfectly
SuperSomebody
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Pizza Hut
vcowles77
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I would say tier 8 nigh omnipotent for Eru.
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vcowles77
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There is no actual proof that any supreme beings of the LOTR’s universe actually reaches outerversal level threats.
vcowles77
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Even if the book says that Eru views the universe as fiction does not indicate he is outerversal. That is a bleak evidence from J.R.Tolkien’s words in his fictional book works.
ET9
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MaseTheFace
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This better not mean what I think It does💀
Kvothe404
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:Ddd
Kvothe404
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Eru iluvatar>Girlfriend :dd
Trigon
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the man is happy to see a mini-god on his phone.
LadyGaladriel1212
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Imagine getting 8 upvotes
Kvothe404
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@MoNsTeR what do you think about to change erus two photo to one? In popular section and in batlles he has different photos
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MoNsTeR
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i fixed it
Kvothe404
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Thx
Mr_Incognito
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I think Eru fans have officially dethroned Hulk fanboys on this site as my least favorite.
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Mandos9452
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Whys he overrated
Mr_Incognito
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Because the reason the fans are using to justify Eru being omnipotent are poor and fallacious. If all it takes is a statement to be omnipotent, then Odin and Galactus would be omnipotent too.
Mandos9452
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@Mr_Incognito that's bad logic. There's a big difference between the author saying is character is omnipotent vs a arrogant character who claims it.
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Mr_Incognito
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No, that's bad logic on your end. The authors in Marvel wrote statements into the comics that Odin and Galactus are omnipotent, they didn't have a character say it. Despite that nobody claims either of them are omnipotent.
Mandos9452
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@Mr_incognito that as a whole would reflect on marvel as a whole that meaning are their really even omnipotent characters in marvel(assuming their not hyperbole) Where talking about 2 completely different authors. One statement doesn't affect the other in any way shape or form. It makes much more sense having a supreme god being called omnipotent vs an baseless claim of a wannabe god(odin) Who can be beaten by many different beings in their respective universes/multiverse.
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Mr_Incognito
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@Mandos9452 Odin is a god. Why is it any different? Galactus is a nearly unstoppable cosmic force, why is it any different? Literally the most Eru had ever shown was creating a universe. That’s it. And since then he basically has done nothing. He rarely acts. You can call him God by all means, but him being outerversal and infinite is a gigantic leap that doesn’t make sense.
Mandos9452
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@Mr_Incognito. "Odin is a god. Why is it any different" A GOD VS THE God. Its quite clear that there was a hyperbole for Odin because he cleary was not all powerful. Because I know Tolkien wasn't going for hyperbole. " literally the most Eru had even shown was creating a universe " lol this tells me you know little to nothing about lotr. Each him and the ainur exist within the timeless halls(heaven) and Arda at the same time beyond Reality space and time. He created 3 themes each act as universes. (I guess you can of it as 3 universes)"but him being outerversal and Infinite is a gigantic leap that doesn't make sence" I agree it is however by multiple times by Tolkien has been stating to be omnipotent. He also is more a writer than tolkein himself which is stated in the Return of the king novel which puts him above the whole narrative as a whole. I'd say outerversal omnipotence is low-balling Eru and like it matters anyway because omnipotence means unlimited power as a whole.
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Mr_Incognito
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@Mandos9452 Wow, I didn’t know you could read minds! That’s crazy that you know exactly what the author was thinking. Ok, so you just admitted yourself Eru caps at universal, proving my point.
Mandos9452
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"Ok so you just admitted yourself Eru caps at universal," lmao are you trolling? I said Eru at worst is outerversal. I don't know why I'm even bothering replying because your acting delusional as f.
Mr_Incognito
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Are YOU trolling? You literally said that he created 3 universes. Creating a universe is… guess what? A UNIVERSAL FEAT. Not that hard to grasp. Please demonstrate that he’s outerversal with evidence please. You’re the deluded one for thinking creating a few universes translates to being outerversal. That’s like saying putting two sticks in the ground is the same as making a house.
Mandos9452
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@Mr_incognito I hate to break it to you but being outerversal is being beyond the creation is a whole. It has nothing to do with How many universes he created. Him being above the author as a whole would put him above. Arda itself is in the mind of Iluvatar. That puts him beyond it certainly.
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Mandos9452
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@Mr_incognito He is infinitlely bigger than the universe
"But you speak of Eru entering arda, which is surely another matter how could he do so, who is Infinity greater: would it not shatter Arda or indeed Ea?"
He is so big that he if he entered arda , He would need to Force himself into not destroying it this also puts him outerversal
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Mr_Incognito
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Ok, please demonstrate him being above the author (even though that's literally impossible). For the last time, provide EVIDENCE. Give me links and scans, i'm not going to just believe you on your word.
Mandos9452
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I literally gave you a quote from the book.
Mr_Incognito
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Ok, I guess you didn't expect me to check your source. Here is the actual quote: 'Truly,' said Andreth. 'So may Eru in that mode be present in Ea that proceeded from Him. But they speak of Eru Himself entering into Arda, and that is a thing wholly different. How could He the greater do this? Would it not shatter Arda, or indeed all Ea?'" So you added that "infinite" part, that isn't actually in the book. If you're going to cite a source, don't change the words and be honest.

The definition of outerversal is "Characters who can significantly affect, create and/or destroy realms or states that fully transcend infinitely-layered hierarchies and/or dimensional levels on a conceptual or existential level, normally being portrayed as entirely external abstractions that lie outside of the applications of spatiotemporal dimensionality as a constant defined by physics on any level, even compared to infinite or uncountably infinite dimensions, usually by perceiving them as akin to fiction or something similarly insignificant." Eru has never destroyed an infinite amount of dimensions or hierarchies, therefore he isn't outerversal.
Mandos9452
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I'm looking for it. It is in the return of the king novel. He's beyond the creation of As a whole. I said he is Infinity bigger then the universe. I did not put that in the quote.
Mr_Incognito
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You obviously aren't going to change your mind even if I debunk every single point you make, so I think i'm done here. Good day.
Mandos9452
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You haven't debunked anything. My claims are true all of them. Currently, I am trying to find the page in the novel where it mentions him. However I don't want to keep you "distracted" any longer its okay to have a different opinion. Have a good night.
vcowles77
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Actually he has.
vcowles77
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@Mr_Incognito to he honest any statement about someone being omnipotent in the authors book is very vague. Just saying and to let you know that is all.
vcowles77
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So coming from a guy that does not even read up about universes outside of the LOTR’s universe and who claims that Eru and Emperor Beyond The Sea can solo pretty much about every universe outside of LOTR’ universe such as Marvel and DC, Creepypasta, WOD, Warhammer 40k. You lack evidence just from proper scans which is much more crucially important to any types of debates rather than showing authors words from any types of old fictional books.
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Hesperus
Hesperus 9 mo 27 d
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Haha That's my GOD Boi
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ET9
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100% of this 1 downvotes is, some between @Trigon and @wade
Mandos9452
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@Wade downvotes me every time I make a claim about Eru😂
wade
wade 9 mo 26 d
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Yes Eru is king 🙏 Eru is omnipotent overlord of everything and stomps toaa and presence and azathoth 🤴 Eru is the highest entity in fiction and higher than fiction and the author or the writer
wade
wade 9 mo 26 d
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But then again I can't bother arguing with a bias eru fan, so unless you wanna drag this on I recommend we leave it on this note
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 26 d
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Nobody shows bias here specifically on Eru illuvatar. believe what you want but you have been so irresponsible on how you show hatred on this character.
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 26 d
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However at I think we can agree that the chosen one is overrated😂
Tartarus
Tartarus 9 mo 28 d
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ERU called me accidentally on the phone, told me @Trigon to Stop Underestimating it.
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Trigon
Trigon 9 mo 28 d
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"TRIGON, why troll me?" because of you I can't control my mini-universe.
masterking2
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i've been reading this eru iviltar for some reason.
i'm not stopping though.
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 30 d
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Ahh yes Almost 20 faves.
Edit We surpassed 20 now
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masterking2
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done
MoNsTeR
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RAHIMINDAHOODS
RAHIMINDAHOODS 9 mo 28 d
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Indeed
Erix01
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Now 22
ICVonDoom
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Finally
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LadyGaladriel1212
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Bruh are you an Eru hater lol cuz your ustats for him suggest you are
wade
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eru < black widow eru < daredevil eru < James Gordan eru < ant-man
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 10 mo 3 d
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Lol prove it
Mandos9452
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Finally
LadyGaladriel1212
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Much better Thank you
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Eru is omnipotent finally
Mr_Incognito
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Eru is not omnipotent. The only evidence that's ever been provided is a single quote from the author saying so. By that logic, galactus is omnipotent too.
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wade
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Exactly
Mandos9452
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There has been multiple sources stating so. There's a difference between a arrogant character claiming it vs the author who wrote it.
Atemporal
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Lol Zeno is tier 8 and Whis also
And people come to cry because Eru is Omnipotent?
TOAA shouldn't even be infinite, at best tier 9 (wank)
The stats on this site are a joke, why should anyone care about a prank site that has characters like Alien X tier 8 and other wanks?
masterking2
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fine you can tell ezio that then or galactus
ubslucky
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to me it seems stats are distributed by rolling dices or whatever lately...defnitley not based on feats/facts...I can at least say this for characters I am very knowledgeable. I think it is perfectly reasonable if a character gets added "omnipotence" as super power, when the narrative and/or the author makes it clear that the respective character is meant to be the supreme being within its work of fiction.
Mandos9452
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@ubslucky we need more users out there like you. Nailed it.
Poe
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@Atemporal funny that your complaining about people crying when you are
MaseTheFace
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Bestie is Omnipotent now, I could just cry. I'm so proud 🥲 🥲 🥲 🥲 🥲 🥲
masterking2
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this a very toxic place
can i get a gas mask
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MaseTheFace
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Tigerking2020
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@MoNsTeR Do you agree with my Ustats, @Ezio asked me to ask you in order for me or you to update his stats.
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MoNsTeR
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eru is not tier 10 and nigh-omnipotent
Tigerking2020
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@MoNsTeR So Omnipotent?
MoNsTeR
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yes
Tigerking2020
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@MoNsTeR are you sure about that, have any proof of pure omnipotence?
MoNsTeR
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look bottom comments
Tigerking2020
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@MoNsTeR OK then, I agree with you.
vcowles77
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Have you guys reached a conclusion yet regarding Eru Iluvatar stats yet or not?
LadyGaladriel1212
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@Monster @Tigerking2020 yeah I've been wondering the same thing LMAO
Tigerking2020
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@Vcowles77
@LadyGaladriel1212

Yes we had, Eru is omnipotent.
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Tigerking2020
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@Ezio could you unlock the character, I've added my Ustats.
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Ezio
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Reach a conclusion with Monster then I will give it to one of you.
Tigerking2020
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@Ezio He already did the research.
Atemporal
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lol tier 10 ustats
MoNsTeR
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@Ezio should we make eru omnipotent ?
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Ezio
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The question is which tier?
MoNsTeR
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tier 9
MoNsTeR
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because melkor true form is high complex multiversal when i checked some resources
MoNsTeR
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id say eru is low-mid outerversal omnipotent
Ezio
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Just compare it with your Man of Miracle ustat and your vote in their battle.
Tigerking2020
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I'd say tier 10 Nigh-Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresence.
LadyGaladriel1212
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@Tigerking2020 is that why the author stated he was omnipotent
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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You did it he is finally omnipotent thank you, now make Kami Tenchi infinite please
MoNsTeR
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kami tenchi omnipotent lmfao i can't see more fodder than this character
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Trigon
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What the hell is why Eru Iluvatar is 16B? Make it an infinite zero.
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LadyGaladriel1212
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You should delete this comment LMAO you always downgrade Eru
Tartarus
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@Trigon or briefly describes himself as Mr. Underestimates the whole of Middle-earth.
LadyGaladriel1212
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Eru stats are ridiculous he is the god of melkor and yet they are the same tier, along with manwe and varda the author even stated he was omnipotent so he is, his stats need a update like really bad
Trigon
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The weakness of eru iluvatar is that it rarely takes action, otherwise nothing.
Mandos9452
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Tolkien's letter 192- "Eru Iluvatar Or the one Is the single omniscient and omnipotent creator. he Has been existing eternally in the timeless halls and posses the flame imperishable in his sprint which Kindless Existence from nothingness". This proves he's all powerful. I don't have the silmarillion on me ATM. But somewhere it says he's a bigger writer than Tolkien himself. Not sure why I still have to show stuff to prove he's all powerful.
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LadyGaladriel1212
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@DeanDinosaur6 Can you fix his stats
LadyGaladriel1212
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@Mandos9452 also thanks for the quote
DeanDinosaur6
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He is currently locked for editing
Mandos9452
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Okay
Mandos9452
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Eru Iluvatar
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If you aren't going to fix Eru's tier at least give him infinite intelligence and speed and give him "all knowing". He exists within the timeless halls moving at whatever speed he desires. Even the ainur move at whatever speeds they want. He's the single creater, so he knows everything.
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LadyGaladriel1212
LadyGaladriel1212 1 y 1 mo 2 d
Eru Iluvatar
14 months member
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And he's omnipotent
LadyGaladriel1212
LadyGaladriel1212 1 y 1 mo 12 d
Eru Iluvatar
14 months member
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16B wow more like infinite
TashPuddle
TashPuddle 1 y 1 mo 19 d
Eru Iluvatar
16 months member
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Make him infinite.
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 1 y 2 mo 1 d
Eru Iluvatar
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He should be omnipotent
Chijb
Chijb 1 y 2 mo 21 d
Eru Iluvatar
17 months member
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Make Eru have omnipotence cuz he is
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TashPuddle
TashPuddle 1 y 2 mo 16 d
Eru Iluvatar
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He shows more Omnipotence than TOAA
CosmicKingThor
CosmicKingThor 1 y 1 mo 19 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@Tashpuddle he should omnipotent agree but he shows more omnipotence than toaa disagree
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 1 y 1 mo 18 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@Cosmickingthor that's fair
Chijb
Chijb 1 y 1 mo 18 d
Eru Iluvatar
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TOAA is not even omnipotent but ok.
CosmicKingThor
CosmicKingThor 1 y 1 mo 17 d
Eru Iluvatar
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He is omnipotent
wade
wade 10 mo 6 d
Eru Iluvatar
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Yea bro, TOAA isn't omnipotent. He's just some dude who created the marvel universe and is unbeatable.
masterking2
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Eru Iluvatar
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TOAA isn't omnipotent by the normal def
but technically it is and eru isn't by the normal standards either
wade
wade 10 mo 6 d
Eru Iluvatar
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From all I've heard he's universal to low-multiversal and his fanbase is filled with little gremlin children
TashPuddle
TashPuddle 1 y 2 mo 30 d
Eru Iluvatar
16 months member
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Eru Ilúvatar is the Supreme Being.
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TashPuddle
TashPuddle 1 y 3 mo 5 d
Eru Iluvatar
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TashPuddle
TashPuddle 1 y 3 mo 5 d
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@SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 3 mo 22 h 3 m
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I respect her opinion. Eru is omnipotent and infinite in every way. The most you can do is put an omnipotent being against another, this would result in a stalemate and a paradox. But such does not exist for in Tolkien, Eru is the One, there is no other or being of the same order.
And if you put Eru against a omnipotent being of another universe and define who wins, he'll cease to be Eru and will not be what Tolkien imagined. And he'll become only a limited and illogical interpretation of the reader.
To Tolkien, a devout Christian any limitation and diminution, of even an attempt to calculate the power of God is beyond our comprehension. Eru is by definition boundless in power, store, creation, Paramount, is in everywhere, the source of all things, invincible, unable to make mistakes, has no weaknesses, is eternal, is uncreated, has an infinite mind, is beyond dimensions and is not subject to any philosophical paradox.
No matter how powerful a being is, he cannot compete with infinity, just as a thousand and a million are equally irreverent to infinity. Every creature created falls under Erus rule. Another paragraph
TashPuddle
TashPuddle 1 y 1 mo 19 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@Mr_Incognito
TashPuddle
TashPuddle 1 y 3 mo 24 d
Eru Iluvatar
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RIP Eru
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Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 1 y 3 mo 24 d
Eru Iluvatar
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Yet a certain somebody voted Galactus over him in a battle.
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 1 y 3 mo 24 d
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@SMPLegendary I don't think Akhill hates those franchises, I feel like he's probably misunderstanding them despite the proof you've given. I wouldn't be too hard on him because he's been a mod for 4 years.
TashPuddle
TashPuddle 1 y 3 mo 24 d
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@Tigerking2020 He should not be mod he brings no balance to characters stats outside of Marvel
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 1 y 3 mo 24 d
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@TashPuddle maybe because he gets too familiar with Marvel/DC lore rather than everything else and I wouldn't try to be too toxic with him it wouldn't get you anywhere. I promise you these stats will eventually update, between you and I we know he is more powerful.
TashPuddle
TashPuddle 1 y 3 mo 24 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@Tigerking2020 K
Galactus
Galactus 1 y 3 mo 24 d
Eru Iluvatar
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I only added Nigh-Omnipotent and Nigh-Omniscient.
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 3 mo 24 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@R165 its akhil, Galactus edited it later. Eru is omnipotent he solos almost every verse however he cannot solo 2 verses at once cuz he can't beat 2 omnipotents
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Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 1 y 3 mo 24 d
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Just gonna leave this there for now.
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Il%C3%BAvatar#:~:text=Eru%20Il%C3%BAvatar%20or%20The%20One,which%20kindles%20existence%20from%20nothingness.

"Eru Ilúvatar or The One is the single omniscient and omnipotent creator. He has been existing eternally in the Timeless Halls and possesses the Flame Imperishable in his spirit which kindles existence from nothingness."
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SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 3 mo 24 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@Tigerking2020 its no use, Akhil's not gonna change his mind
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 1 y 3 mo 24 d
Eru Iluvatar
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Have you entered your Ustat @SMPLegendary also I'm sure in the near future this might change, characters usually get an update 2 or months later.
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 3 mo 24 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@Tigerking2020 Yeah I gave him omnipotence. I feel like its pretty fair.
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 1 y 3 mo 24 d
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@SMPLegendary I started to realize I unfairly gave him Omnipotence, I would probably give him nigh-omnipotence at most just to keep the omnipotence club exclusive.
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 3 mo 25 d
Eru Iluvatar
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Why is he nerfed? Is it Akhil again? He's downgrading Star Wars LOTR and Narnia while upgrading his favourite franchises. Noice
ARC08
ARC08 1 y 4 mo 14 d
Eru Iluvatar
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shouldn't he be nigh-omnipotent
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SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 13 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@ARC08 No. He is omnipotent. BTW Melkor>>>SW Universe
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SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 13 d
Eru Iluvatar
16 months member
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SW is underrated tho
Savage
Savage 1 y 4 mo 14 d
Eru Iluvatar
21 months member
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Infinite?
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SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 14 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@Savage LOL I destroyed Akhil in a debate. He gave no statements about Marvel. On discord
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SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 14 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@R165 Noice
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 1 y 4 mo 13 d
Eru Iluvatar
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One, no you didn't. You didn't even know what AD Hominem was. Two, that's not the reason why he got upgraded.
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 13 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@AkhilPDX you won't even dare to come back on and debate with me lol. You don't even know how to debate. You just know how to team.
Savage
Savage 1 y 4 mo 13 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@SMPLegendary I think I speak for everybody when I say: shut up.
Just stop, you can't even post a comment that isn't toxic.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 1 y 4 mo 13 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@SMPLegendary I could walk over you with less than 1% of my effort if I really wanted to and anyone who knows me here can attest to that. There's a difference between leaving and being removed from the group, the latter of which you did once and then threatened to do so again because I dismissed your claims for being irrelevant. You didn't prove a single thing. You used AD Hominem, which you apparently don't know what it means over and over again. At least look up what it means. Also, Empty and I didn't even team up on you so that's just a blatant lie. As @Savage said, all you did was be toxic in that GC and you're being toxic again.
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 12 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@AkhilPDX then try to go all out LOL. @Savage he lost the debate I have the rights to criticise him. He is asking for feats of Eru while he said TOAA has no feats and his scalings are terrible. Okay sure, come back and debate. Stop making stuff up of me threatening you. Seems like you actually can't accept facts. Your opinions ARE NOT facts. Come back if you dare say one more word lol.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 1 y 4 mo 12 d
Eru Iluvatar
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Why would I waste my time on someone who literally does not understand rhetoric? It's pointless. Also, you have no right to say my scaling is terrible considering you don't even understand what it is. You literally removed me from the GC and then threatened to do it again. Not my fault you were so intimidated that you found yourself needing to do that. I also never said my opinions were facts so nice strawman but on that note, I see no reason to upgrade any of the characters you want upgraded.
TashPuddle
TashPuddle 1 y 4 mo 19 d
Eru Iluvatar
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Whys He 30M?
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SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 19 d
Eru Iluvatar
16 months member
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IDK! Maybe @AKhilPDX did it
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 1 y 4 mo 19 d
Eru Iluvatar
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Are you another alt?
Savage
Savage 1 y 4 mo 19 d
Eru Iluvatar
21 months member
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@SMPLegendary You're just another account of that other jerk?
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 18 d
Eru Iluvatar
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I am no jerk I think LOTR is powerful so? No one cares. I am the main account now, btw. He is not the alt. He isn’t my friend.
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 19 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@AKhilPDX @Ezio How is a being stronger than TOAA 30M LOL even Manwe(His Archangel) base form is stronger than his creator haha that's some jokes.
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Ezio
Ezio 1 y 4 mo 19 d
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What does it have to do with me? The one-day account mentions me for last week's discussion on another profile page. Are you another alt account of itachicrap?
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 19 d
Eru Iluvatar
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No, Its my new main account. My old account is gone. Now shush saying that I am crap when I'm just asking IF you did it.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 1 y 4 mo 19 d
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He's not stronger than TOAA. Also, please stop pinging Ezio and Galactus for no reason.
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 18 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@AkhilPDX I respect your opinion. Just don’t edit characters without everyone’s agreements. I am trying to be nice as much as I can. Like next time please 1. Look at the Ustats and then reconsidering. 2. Ask people in the comments. This website is biased to Superheroes. This website is unfair for stuff like MCU, LOTR, NARNIA, NARUTO, TRANSFORMERS, STAR WARS etc.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 1 y 4 mo 18 d
Eru Iluvatar
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That's not how profiles are edited. Also, just because Marvel & DC are strong doesn't make everything else as powerful as they are. I see no reason why LOTR, Narnia, Naruto, Transformers, or Star Wars come even close to Marvel or DC in power. There are other franchises that do or maybe even surpass them. They have profiles on the site too.
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 18 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@AkhilPDX As I am saying, my reason for you to make Eru back to INF is because you can’t change his stats without telling anyone or actually diving deep into a character. It’s like China changed laws to make democracy voters have a guaranteed loss because HE doesn’t like it. There’s no reason to edit because of ur opinion. A dude called Tiger king in SHDB said Melkor’s stats are low. Did he edit him? Nah. Gotta give more respect :)
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 1 y 4 mo 18 d
Eru Iluvatar
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Don't compare giving a universal - multiversal (max) character omnipotence to some political agenda in China.
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 18 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@AkhilPDX It’s an example dude. My ratings are CHRISTIAN>LOTR>NARNIA>LOVECRAFT>DC>MARVEL>UMINEKO>SW.
Again, you should not edit whatever you want to your not supposed to use your powers poorly.
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SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 18 d
Eru Iluvatar
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Poor dude, I really like this website. I love everything about it but 1. Which is Marvel dead fanboys their brainwashed thinking TOAA beats all other omnipotents together tbh TOAA is not that powerful Jesus can crush him.
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 18 d
Eru Iluvatar
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@AkhilPDX Btw I don’t hate Marvel fanboys at all. I hate the people that downgrade my “favorite” characters. Stupid yeah it is but. Downgrading it for no reason is the stupid part. Btw changing a character would not change people’s mind so glhf.
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AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 1 y 4 mo 18 d
Eru Iluvatar
67 months member
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If I used my powers the way I wanted to, I would have banned you already for making 6 alternate accounts, harassing multiple users, and then going after Galactus and Ezio for absolutely no good reason.

Not everyone here is a Marvel fanboy but most people aside from you, your alts, and maybe a small minority think LOTR characters get up to outer. Big difference.
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 18 d
Eru Iluvatar
16 months member
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Yeah a lot think LOTR is outer. Tiger king The creator of the is this website getting more biased, a few people there and a ton on YouTube. It’s all your fault of changing Melkor and Eru because of your own reasons. Anyways you’ll refuse to debate. I will rest for a while, since changing a characters stats makes no difference. This website is biased. Biased to Superheroes, the comics are so overrated.
Oblivion
Oblivion 1 y 11 mo 2 d
Eru Iluvatar
38 months member
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He's not omniponent duh hes barely mıltiversal
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SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 1 y 4 mo 19 d
Eru Iluvatar
16 months member
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Yes he is omnipotent. He is our modern day god from fiction. He is pretty much stronger than TOAA and The presence duo
Trigon
Trigon 11 mo 2 d
Eru Iluvatar
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I agree.