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Eru IluvatarvsLucifer Morningstar

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Eru IluvatarEru
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LadyGaladriel1212
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Eru Iluvatar Hmm... Nigh omnipotent>Omnipotent? Great logic here this battle is off Lucifer is the most wanked character on this site
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Trigon
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Lucifer Morningstar Hmm. The Omniversal Nigh Omnipotent being > Universal omnipotent ?
LadyGaladriel1212
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Eru Iluvatar @Trigon I'm not trying to be an asshole but don't reply to my comments and even if you do I will ignore all of them
Trigon
Trigon 3 mo 7 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Ok.
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Shafira 1 mo 3 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Eru Iluvatar isn't Omnipotent
Makron
Makron 5 mo 16 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Eru doesn't have feats beyond universal.
Lucifer godstomps.
mkelley291
mkelley291 8 mo 17 d
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Eru Iluvatar eru ilúvatar one shots
Asmoday
Asmoday 9 mo 7 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Easy for Lucifer.
SNK68
SNK68 9 mo 11 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Since, I'm attached to this conversation (which I would like to be taken out of), I have an opinion/perception.
If you bring in Lucifer Morning star in a battle, you bring in his lore, origins, and all who are from his Omniverse.
Including the One True God who is the only Omnipotent being within that Omniverse. Therefore you have to consider, accept and respect his position within his Omniverse where he's second only to God.
Which makes him Nigh-Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Omniscient and a tier level 10 character who's power/abilities levels should be way higher than 4240B, due to the fact that he's the second most powerful being in the entire Omniverse, second only to God. So, whom ever brings in Lucifer to a battle would have no chances of winning, no matter how overpowered they were given by the creator of the character and his world, like "Eru Iluvatar" in this battle. In any battle that would include Lucifer Morningstar, his opponent has absolutely no chance of winning due to who Lucifer is. In the Omniverse of Lucifer, only one being can win against him and that's God because again, Lucifer is second only to God himself period! Someone can't just write a book and say that their main character is more powerful than a being such as Lucifer who in my humble opinion should be rated much higher in his power levels.
TonioCartonio
TonioCartonio 9 mo 12 d
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Eru Iluvatar God
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vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 12 d
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not voted On a complex multiversal level scale lol.
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TonioCartonio
TonioCartonio 9 mo 7 d
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Eru Iluvatar Who do you vote for?
vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 7 d
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not voted Honesty Lucifer. But I just do not want to because of obviously the outcome of who would actually win here on this battle matchup. Eru stats are false because he is not omnipotent in the LOTR’S universe!
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 9 mo 13 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Delusional.
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vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 13 d
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not voted Yep. That is right This fight is not even close. Lmaofao!
SNK68
SNK68 9 mo 14 d
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Lucifer Morningstar First off, I'm not saying there is a one true God or that there isn't one either, but if there was one true God then there would be his counterpart which would be Lucifer. So, since Lucifer is a participant in this battle then that means that by default in this battle there is a one true infinite Omnipotent God.
There can only be one Infinite Omnipotent/Omniversal God and there can only be one Nigh-Omnipotent, Omnipresence, Omniscience, Omniversal counterpart entity who's second only to God and that's Lucifer.
So, unless that multi colored being is God under a different name and different appearance, then yes God would win. But that would make Lucifer the second most powerful entity in existence above all other existing entities in all of God's creation. So, therefore, Lucifer's power levels should be the highest and only second to God. Lucifer's power levels should be way higher than a number but if a number must be used to describe his power levels, 4240B is an insult and should be almost infinite. So, pick a number because 4240B is just a farce.
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vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 14 d
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not voted Well Lord of The Rings does not have anyone who should have infinite power. At max 74B.
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 14 d
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Eru Iluvatar Eru is better compared to the presence then lucifer.
vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 14 d
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not voted No lol.
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 14 d
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Eru Iluvatar @Vcowless77 Debate? The The Ainur themselves Viewed all of Ea(which is all that is) As fiction. Which that alone is outerversal. Eru easily scales outerversal omnipotence category.
vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 14 d
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not voted Just through authors words which is not accurately scaled.
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 14 d
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Eru Iluvatar @Vcowles77 "through authors words which is not accurately scaled" -What's your criteria then? Because Yog-Sothoth And Nyarlethotep don't have the best feats either but they are powerful so why can't eru? Tolkien based Eru of Christian god so he makes little interventions. The ainur and Eru did this as a feat when the existed in the timeless halls singing The verse in existence as they viewed it as someones story. Literally. Saying authors word does not matter, is not an argument. Tolkien's statements are not like Marvels Or D.C which rely on hyperbole to make statements to scale characters. Theirs are accurate and more meaningfull.
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vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 14 d
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not voted Because Lovecraft has a Way stronger cosmology than LOTR end of story.
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vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 14 d
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not voted Same for Marvel and DC and other universes that reach outerversal and sometimes boundless. maybe not for marvel and DC but still, lotr does not reach into outerversal scaling unlike other universes such as Shin Mega Tenshi World of Darkness Twin Peaks The Elder Scrolls and much more.
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vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 14 d
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not voted Why is say complex multiversal to hyperversal is because that would be the max level of scaling that would best do for the lotr verse, you cannot just have someone outerversal to omnipotent if the author states that they are.
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 14 d
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Eru Iluvatar By your logic that's meaningless because their based on statenent for lovecraft. Lotr is known to actually be a multiverse by lots of Tolkien fans as they regard all dimensions and universe in one!
vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 14 d
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not voted Well multiple universes that makes eru a complex multiversal being not outerversal to omnipotent. Ask other users and they will tell you why more than I can. All I know is that scaling does not work that way for now on.
vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 14 d
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not voted Read up on the universes that I listed then you will know why I am correct there.
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 13 d
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Eru Iluvatar Your anything but right. Being outerversal is being outside all of space and creation Etc. He exists in the timeless halls. That's outerversal and creation the world outside of it! Feat right there. B
vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 13 d
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not voted How does exisitng in the timeless halls make you outerversal?
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 13 d
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Eru Iluvatar Did you not read what I commented? It exists beyond all concepts of creation and They viewed the created world as fiction.
vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 13 d
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not voted That does not even make you outerversal lol.
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 13 d
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Eru Iluvatar @Vcowles77 Think of the timeless halls as the beyonders realm. Both exist beyond the Multiverse(or Ea in Tolkien which my very well be one as well Tolkien never used galaxy or universe specifically) And are Almost infinity ahead of the world(Infinity for Eru) Saying Eru is not outerversal because thats pretty much saying the beyonder is not either. Obviously you won't be convinced at all because you obviously dislike eru for what ever reason.
vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 12 d
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not voted I do not dislike Eru again, I do think that him being omnipotent is silly that is all.
vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 12 d
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not voted Look even when you debated with @Mr_Incognito about this he explained you perfectly as to the reasons why Eru is not even considered a pure omnipotent at all
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 12 d
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Eru Iluvatar Mr_Incognito didn't prove shit. He just denied the evidence and asking for more. When I see you comment things like "Eru being omnipotent is preposterous and hilarious" or tagging people just so he is losing a battle, tells me you dislike him. Even now you are just denying my evidence which tells me neither one of you Are proving nothing other than hatred and ignorance.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 9 mo 12 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Actually smartass, I did. I’ve given you plenty of proof that the way you define Eru isn’t how power scaling and tiering works. You just don’t seem to grasp that feats > statements. You also vote Eru on battles he clearly loses, and have admitted you choose the winner based on the level of the character alone, which is a foolish way to choose who wins. The only evidence you’ve ever given is either feats with no sources, or “the author said so” which isnt evidence since any author can say that about their character, like Galactus and Odin.
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 12 d
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Eru Iluvatar All you have done is denied my Claims. Eru creating the endless Ea, is all stated in the Silmarinion. Again, you are comparing Statements from marvel vs tolkein. Get your shit together by comparing the 2. Eru unlike the characters you mentioned hasn't shown to be denied omnipotence. I hate to be a hyprictate, but love craft eneities (which are comparable to Tolkien's imo) are Featless does that their "overrated" too? Eru DID create a Multiverse(Granted likely smaller than Marvel or D.Cs) And is literally not even present within it. "That should Mean that he was put outside time and space outside Ea altogether"
"But you speak of Eru entering arda, which is surely another matter how could he do so, who is Infinity greater: would it not shatter Arda or indeed Ea?" Note when they if he entered it, meaning he is BEYOND it as a whole. Along with dwarfing it in Size!

Also the timeless halls Acts similar as the beyonders Realm. It exists outside of the creation and he created Eä While doing so within the timeless Halls.
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vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 11 d
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not voted There are more out there who are definitely comparable to Eru besides Lovecraft. You cannot just say that Lovecraft is only on the similar omnipotence level to Eru, because you know what it does not work like that,
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vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 11 d
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not voted Even if vs battles does not provide accurate omnipotent scans does not mean Marvel DC or many other universes out there besides LOTR have much more history and scans like @Mr_Incognito said earlier.
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vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 11 d
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not voted Again your not realizing that Authors quora of words is not exactly meaningful of someone being omnipotent just because he or she just said that. Scans do tell as to whether someone is omnipotent or not. Marvel DC has tons of that while Lotr is only in words in a book. There is a massively big difference between scaling here my friend.
vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 11 d
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not voted Your looking at a major difference between comics manga compared to an old fictional literature books J.R.Tolkien worked on by himself. Which is definitely Why cosmology scaling heavily matters here by feats not just through authors words of someone being purely omnipotent.
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Mandos9452
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Eru Iluvatar I have literally given you feats and scaling and once again you are denying my claims and evidence. Tell me, why the "authors word" is not enough to Earn "omnipotence" more than just statements prove he is and I'm not arguing anymore because all you have done is ignoring the evidence I provided while you are just throwing meaningless statements.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 9 mo 11 d
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Lucifer Morningstar You haven't given me a single scan lol. Literally all you've done is give me random stuff with no quantifiable measurements or quotes from chapters of books I don't have access to. I also have called you out before about re-writing some of the "quotes" to make Eru seem more powerful. And once again, you've got it completely backwards. I am the one who has the evidence while YOU are the one throwing around meaningless statements.
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 8 d
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Eru Iluvatar Haahahaha i have never manipulated quotes or Anything but Whatever. Ill say this again, lotr Evidence is mostly in books or letters written. So scans are not relevant and It gets even better because I can't send images on here anyhow. Nonetheless I have given more then enough evidence to prove my claim. Not arguing anymore because Reasons.
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vcowles77
vcowles77 8 mo 20 d
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not voted Which are definitely not strong evidences to support statements that Eru is purely an omnipotent being.
Juggenaut
Juggenaut 9 mo 15 d
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Eru Iluvatar Beh, è come dire Dio vs Lucifer. Lucifer le subisce.
vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 15 d
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not voted @RajinKabir
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vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 15 d
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not voted I have gotta admit that this is truly one of the most embarrassing fights that I have truly seen so far on this website.
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Mandos9452
Mandos9452 9 mo 14 d
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Eru Iluvatar I agree
LadyGaladriel1212
LadyGaladriel1212 11 mo 23 d
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Eru Iluvatar Eru oneshots
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vcowles77
vcowles77 9 mo 15 d
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not voted No just no.
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LadyGaladriel1212
LadyGaladriel1212 11 mo 23 d
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Eru Iluvatar What the fuck, bullshit omnipotent vs nigh omnipotent omg this is bonkers. BBRRUUHH
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Poe
Poe 11 mo 23 d
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Eru Iluvatar I
Got
You
LadyGaladriel1212
LadyGaladriel1212 11 mo 23 d
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Eru Iluvatar @Poe you just earned a favorite LMAO
Poe
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Eru Iluvatar Thanks lol
mkelley291
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Eru Iluvatar cool, and besides, lucifer would just be fighting his dad.
Ilúvatar is alot cooler than the presence
LadyGaladriel1212
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Eru Iluvatar @mkelley291 agreed!
Trigon
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Lucifer Morningstar My Luci Stomp
SMPLegendary
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not voted Omnipotent VS Nigh Omnipotent
zg
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Lucifer Morningstar Eru illuvatar is only low-multiversal and far from omnipotent, Lucifer has feats that put the entire lord of the rings universe to shame, Lucifer at least has multiversal busting feat whereas Eru only have low-multiversal, just because Eru is supposed to be Judeo god doesn't mean anything when godzilla punked his Judeo god.
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SMPLegendary
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not voted LOL
Lucifer_Morningstar_Prime
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Eru Iluvatar What the fuck. Eru Illuvatar is truly omnipotent. There's no chance fo Luci
vcowles77
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not voted He is right there you guys should know.

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