ElectroSpino

This Sauron version's name needs to be edited to 'Sauron (Second Age)', which is the version with The One Ring (First Age is without, Third age is during LOTR.

I'm including shows too

Overrated
1. Inception
2. Harry Potter
3. The Walking Dead
4. Justice League
5. Current Arrowverse shows (minus LoT))
6. Ant-Man and the Wasp
7. The entire Friday the 13th franchise
8. Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
9. It Follows

Underrated
1. Donnie Darko
2. Batman V Superman (The Extended edition at least)
3. Spartacus
4. 28 Weeks Later
5. Watchmen
6. Ant-Man
7. Titans
8. Doom Patrol
9. Hardcore Henry
10. The Adventures of Food Boy (Not even joking)
11. Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith
12. Halloween (2007)
13. Captain Marvel
14. The Babadook
15. The Lost World: Jurassic Park

Hmm several things about that video, that I just kind of want to say I guess

1. he doesn't give a single scan for anything he says (I don't doubt he has it, but honestly he's probably forgetting context, outliers, etc.)

2. He doesn't give any reasons why it's above Thor (like giving Thor's limits)

3. He claims he spends a lot of effort/time editing (I think more than DanCo is what he said), even though he only had 1 still image the entire time, with a movie maker intro (At least Danco can change the image to what he's talking about). It's not in the video, but I remember him saying it on Discord or something.

4. Platonic Concepts are only above 4D, highballed https://owlcation.com/humanities/An-Introduction-to-Platos-Theory-of-Forms and idk where he gets the idea that they are platonic concepts.

5. I want SirSpidey V Splash Thor Vs Martian Manhunter right now.

6. Aside from the things I mentioned above, he actually doesn't seem as bad as I've heard

Just my piece

Ditto for that request (I want to see a video that's actually kind of ridiculous, like the Omniversal MM, or something)

Theme: Manipulators

Leader: Nyarlathotep
Speedster: Pontiff Sulyvahn
Powerhouse: Darth Sidious
Strong Character: Melkor
Fighter: Ebony Maw
Destroyer/Immortal: Mephisto

Sentry Yo, y'all downplaying Sentry SMH. In the fight in siege Sentry and Thor were on pretty even fields (Thor also said he wasn't holding back). When Sentry turned to Void, Void was shown to be above Thor and the rest of the Avengers present, even after they were buffed by Norn Stones. Void is the exact same power level at Unstable Sentry, minus the fact Void is pretty much bloodlusted (So he appears more powerful). If this fight is bloodlusted than Sentry stomps (Void/Sentry only died because he wanted to, the writer also backs this up). Unstable Sentry, in-character has been able to absorb a cosmic cube, fight WWH, Resist Doctor Strange, Resurrect from nothing, and overload the Absorbing Man (Who's been able to absorb Thor's power and Odin's Magic)

Yeah smh DC fanboys who think literally any DC character could defeat Thor

I could help with calcs, and maybe some characters if I feel like it...

*Should we tell him she's getting a TV Show?*

Feanor: Country-Continent Level (Was able to fight prolonged combat with several Balrog. Created the Silmarils (This does not make him Multi-Galaxy because they were not originally created with Multi-Galaxy levels of power, he cannot recreate them, and even if he could, creating a nuke doesn't make a human City level.)

Fangolfin: Country-Continent Level (Was able to fight First Age Morgoth and permanantally wound his leg)

Tom Bombadil (Only feats): Island Level (Has complete control over the Old Forest, which is 1000 square miles)

Tom Bombadil (Tolkien's Interpritation): Continental (He is a spirit of the Countryside)

Tom Bombadil (Highballing): Planet (Is the embodiement of Middle Earth, and stated by the Council of Elrond it would take the entire world agaisnt him to defeat him)

Witch King of Angmar-Country (Was able to fight Gandalf the White)

I'll do LOTR power levels

Melkor (Full Power): Universal+ (Can match the combined power of the Ainur)

Melkor (With the Silmarils): Multi-Galaxy (has the complete power of the trees of Valinor)

Morgoth (First Age): Continent-Country (Was still able to shift Mountains, and created an eternal night over the entirety of his land)

Morgoth (War of Wrath): Country (Is still superior to Ancalagon and Sauron)

Sauron (First Age): Country (Is superior to Ancalagon, who destroyed Mountains by simply falling)

Sauron (Second Age): At least Country (Should be stronger than his First Age form with the One Ring, the Nine Ringwraiths increase his power)

Sauron (Third Age): Unknown attack power, but at least Country level durability (Was able to survive magic of the 5 wizards)

Gothmog: Country Level (Was on par with Sauron, and noted as Morgoth's greatest servants alongside Sauron. Also killed Feanor)

Durin's Bane: City-Mountain (While weakened was able to stalemate Gandalf the Grey)

Gandalf the Grey: City Level (Was able to destroy a large part of a Mountain)

Gandalf the White: Country Level (Should be above Galadriel)

Ungoliant: Multi-Galaxy at full power, Continent-Large Country while weakened (At full power was able to help destroy the Trees of Valinor, and while weakened was above Morgoth, and it took all 7 Balrogs to make her flee)

Ancalagon: Country-Mountain Range (Destroyed a Mountain Range by falling, should be above all Balrogs minus Gothmog, as dragons were created to be their supperior)

Smaug: Town Level (Destroyed Lake Town by falling)

Galadriel: Country level (Stated as the mightiest elf, minus Fangolfin and Feanor, so they should be comparable, also was able to resist Sauron with Magic)

My reasoning was that he's a tornado entity put inside a robotic body (Pretty sure it weakens him physically, but boosts him mentally though).

I guess correct me if I forgot any powers

Yo, you have to say the time zone if Imma schedule this

Eh, I guess I could join, although most of my OCs are at max Solar System, except for the Cosmic Entities, who are Multiversal (And might be a bit OP).

I'll Choose Aubade and The Microcosmic, although I do have more characters https://www.worldanvil.com/w/second-earth-electrospino here, if there's any you think would be a better fit (Aubade is City Level, and The Microcosmic is Multiversal)

*This entire thread is irony btw* Have we ever actually had a real debate? I mean the only thing I can remember us having is the joke comment I made about Shaq's Steel being the most powerful superhero...

It was @SirSpidey on non-comic things, for you, @AndreasVer, it was just all around

My tier list (Trying to be unbiased, mainly based on knowledge, with the tiers the is no real order)

S-@LordTracer, @Soratoumiga, @SoulCollecter37

A-@TheNemianLion, @NoahKolander

B-@SirSpidey (Thor debates), @Darkseid(Daniel))

C-@AkhilPDX

D-@SirSpidey (On non-thor characters), @Mxy, @Spectre, @Emptyhand, @jongensoden

F-@AndreasVer, @SirSpidey (On non-comic characters or things)

Nyarlathotep (Cthulhu Mythos) *this profile is the Manifestation in Derry, but Nyarlathotep wins even against Deatlights*

Azathoth (Cthulhu Mythos) Azathoth is above literally any concept. Every concept imaginable, including time, space, intellect, mulitverses, ect. Azathoth is above, as these are all the equivalent to a thought to him. There is no way anything with a physical for would be able to defeat Azathoth, he is above the concept of life and death. He is unfathomable, he can't be defeated physically, mentally or by reality warping.

Azathoth (Cthulhu Mythos) @AndreasVer, I'd like to hear your explanation for this one

*and since no one got the joke: https://www.superherodb.com/forum/alone-at-the-top/100-3421/ *

Cool Story bro, got any facts?

@Sora I like how the amount of 'E's in your name represent the amount of rights women should have.

@sora is a fellow scholar I see, sadly nothing compared to me, but I would say he's at least equal to me when I was 7

Sorry, I don't go outside, too disorganized. You're going to have to prove it to me here with EVIDENCE

@jongensoden PIS and not canon, try again

I don't hear any evidence. WOW, try again, embicil

Since some of you are denying my divinity. I have a proposal. Anyone who can prove to me the Sun exists will be crowned second best debater (Since I'm first no matter what, of course)

Black Panther Volume 3 #008 Read and be humbled

In the book I believe he was able to create and control a swarm of insects, and he was also able to control a giant bird (I mean he turned into it, but that I guess counts?)

@SirSpidey, you literally said (I'm copy-pasting what you said btw) "Considering without plants Earth would be a highly acidic environment, if the Universe did not have plants, it would be a highly acidic environment, meaning the Universe would eat itself away due to the acid" and "Nothing exists in The Sun" with absolutely no evidence to back up your claims. Even when I asked for evidence you just told me to shut up. Just to see maybe I was insane, and somehow what you were saying made any kind of actual sense, I asked my AP Physics teacher, who has a doctorate in chemistry, he said you had no idea what you were talking about. If your resorting to making up things in a debate, you shouldn't be in any great debater lists. It's not an opinion you lost that, you didn't even have evidence for your claims, something you hold in such I regard and have such pride in always having. (For those wondering the debate was if Plants were an essential concept to the universe, like time is).

Lex Luthor As Tracer has said, Lex has been able to fight Larfleeze and Brainiac (note that both of these were with no prep)...Lex Stomps...

Team Doctor Strange (Classic) Absorbing Man feat: http://i.imgur.com/peQgjbh.jpg

Team Doctor Strange (Classic) Ultron fight: https://imgur.com/a/wdVgv

Team Doctor Strange (Classic) WWH fight: https://imgur.com/a/C31HP

Team Doctor Strange (Classic) Cosmic Cube absorbtion: http://i.imgur.com/6jJ4BwB.jpg

Team Doctor Strange (Classic) Resurrects from nothing 2: http://i.imgur.com/s5RhgQA.jpg

Team Doctor Strange (Classic) Resurrects from nothing 1: http://i.imgur.com/fCUI54D.jpg

Team Doctor Strange (Classic) Ok bois, I'm doin all the evidence get hyped (have to do each link in a different comment, Game end me (also not bothering replying, since I don't want to scroll down each time, I know I'm lazy)

Molecule Manipulation: http://i.imgur.com/T15c2UM.jpg

Team Doctor Strange (Classic) Even Unstable Sentry has better feats than that (Note, to my knowledge, we have never seen a completely Stable Sentry, minus Death Seed.) I'll provide scans for anything you want, but I'm pressed for time, so I can't be bothered to do all that atm.

Sentry have Molecule Manipulation (Dark Avengers #12), Invincibility/Invulnerability (pretty much proved by the countless fights he's had, although he's not completely so, no character really is. Some proof is in Dark Avengers #4, where Morgan Le Fay vaporizes him, and he ressurects from nothing.)

Sentry has shown incredibly powerful feats, much more impressive than the ones you listed. (Note: all of these are Unstable Sentry feats, Stable Sentry should be several times more powerful than this). Sentry has absorbed a Cosmic Cube (Sentry & Fantastic Four), Fought World War Hulk while he was at pretty much his most unstable (World War Hulk #4), Faught Ultron 8 (Mighty Avengers #3 - #6) (weaker versions of Ultron have solo'd the Avengers), and has overloaded The Absorbing Man with energy (Mighty Avengers #33) note that The Absorbing Man has absorbed Odin's magic and has been fine.

not voted Why is a wight even here? It's like doing T-rex Vs Gigantosaurus and a termite...

Team Spider-Man Thor solos smh fake fans

Team Raven Raven* V Quickboi
Etrigan* V Spider-man
Emperor Joker* V Strange
Black Racer V IG Thanos*
DM* V Iron man
True Mika* V OKPT

Those 5* V IG Thanos

Arthur Dayne (4)
Wally West (10)
Final Form Ultron (31)
One Above All (22)
Destiny of the Endless (70)
Nyarlathotep (140)

Wait I never read the OP, just realized that it never asked for a top 10...game end me, I just looked at the replies

hmm, super hard to narrow down to 10 (these aren't in any order)

1. Negan
2. Petyr Baelish
3. Obi-Wan Kenobi
4. Ilithyia (Spartacus)
5. Tyrion Lannister
6. Ebony Maw
7. Rorschach
8. Jessica Jones (MCU)
9. Tywin Lannister
10. Oberyn Martell

Honestly, a top 50-100 would work better...I feel like I've cheated so many characters by not adding them...

That's because, if you actually read any of the mythos, Azathoth has no view into our reality, because all of our reality is his dream, technically he's above any of our concepts, because they are all just figments of his dream, including the concept of intelligence or destruction.

He's been updated to reflect the Derry Manifestation, not his deadlights form

Azathoth (Cthulhu Mythos) No. It's not close in the slightest. Azathoth is beyond literally any concept that has ever existed. The only Elder God that even slightly compares to Azathoth is Yog Sathoth, and even then Azathoth is above him, as every god in the mythos is the equivalent of a dream to Azathoth. Cthulhu is Star level at max, while Azathoth is above the very concept of a multiverse...