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He means which franchise do you like better
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1: well the logic I thought you were using was this: A character killed the Living Tribunal and B character is stronger than A character so B character must be omnipotent. Is their any misunderstanding between us on this point?

2: okay, how do you know they were telling Loki who they were? If they were then why didn't they just say they were Beyonders? Again just because they said that quote doesn't automatically make them Beyonders.

3: okay, another argument I have is that TWSAIS are Elder Gods (like Geia) as they were stated to be "gods of old" through the comic almost like they're Elder Gods. That's not a fair comparison, Galactus has to feed because that's his role in the cosmic pantheon meanwhile Beyonders shouldn't need to feed off of anything just like how most cosmic beings don't need to eat. If Thor wasn't either dead or in a Thorsleep then what was he doing here https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0120de7fbc08e1f40720b0fec07e8dde he talks about sleeping "the slumber of the gods" so I ask you: what happened to him there? "Final Crisis and COIE are not canon" uh, idk https://comicbook.com/2015/05/01/dc-comics-just-made-their-entire-history-officially-canon/ how is Final Crisis not canon to Post Crisis continuity? Just because it was rebooted with the New 52 doesn't mean it's not canon to Post Crisis. Oh did you forget how in Final Crisis Darkseid was destroying the multiverse just by falling? That was in a weakened state imagine what full power Darksied could do. I was referring to this comic https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-Mighty-Thor-2011/Annual?id=31369 but sUrTuR hAd tHe aBiLiTy tO dEsTrOy a mUltIVeRsE aNd oDiN cOnTaInEd aNd nUlIfIeD tHaT fIrE pUtTiNg hIm oN tHe sAmE lEvEl aS a MuLtIVeRsE dEsTrOyEr aNd tHeReFoRe oMnIpOtEnT. No, Thanos also absorbed everything (implying he destroyed a multiverse) until he Death and Adam Warlock were the last beings in existence then decided to recreate everything. And do you have any proof that the Heart of the Universe only destroyed a single universe?
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Superman (New 52) @Oblivion he's a large solar system level threat not a galaxy leveler. Please give me three feats for this Superman being galaxy level. And no, a galaxy is quadrillions of times more massive than a planet so lifting the Earth is not going to make him galaxy level any time soon.
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Thor (Ultimate) Thor is supposed to be a bigger hero than the Hulk, that should mean any Hulk.

(This is a joke bty)
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Raven's is definitely Evanescence.
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Franklin Richards (Adult) King Thor is barley Celestial tier, Franklin Richards is easily Celestial tier.
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Okay, do I get a notification through email or something like that? I'd rather not though.
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not voted Yes really TOAA come out of denial @Akhil
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not voted Do you know that GH holds back because he doesn't want Zarathos to be unleashed? Hulk CAN beat him like he did in World War Hulk #2
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Odin 1: Imagine sending me Quara links that don't work because you don't like me or something like that. Next.
2: when was amped Zeus unable to damage Thor? Anyways you're just helping to prove how weak Zeus truly is because Thor CAN indeed be hurt by lightning https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-976e9f98baea088d9a839f57148a1c57 this just proves how weak Zeus is (that last part was a joke by the way, I don't actually think Zeus is weak)
3: what kind of fallacious argument is that? You act like if I control something then there's no way that that something could hurt me, not how it works my friend. Oh, and Odin wasn't even injured despite being hit point blank in the face by lightning more powerful than Zeus' and the mightiest weapon of the Norse Gods which could damage a Celestial that was stated to be stronger than the one that brought down three Skyfathers, and Odin was still not even bruised by that.
4: probably because you made that Thanos think up, Also just because a character says something doesn't always mean it's true.
5: I have a feeling you copied and pasted that argument somewhere nevertheless Odin might not even need the Odin Force and without it he can still toss Thor around like a doll and once overpowered Mephisto so yes even without the Odin Force he could still hold his own. And you have no proof that Olympians have better physicals than Asgardians.
6: "Zeus' lightning is stronger than Thor's" Thor: knocks a Hulk who is angry and ready to fight out with a single lightning bolt _Hulk annual 2001 Zeus: is unable to do proper damage to a calm Hulk who didn't want to fight rather wanted to cleanse his family _Incredible Hulks #622. An Asgardians attack that Odin doesn't instantly take control over would be just as devastating to him than any other attack by simple logic as for Thor hitting him remember that Odin was barley staggered by both the blunt force of the hammer and the full force of Thor's lightning.
7: if that Galactus wasn't very decently fed to well fed then why was he seen eating in Thor (2011) #1? That my friend is what we call an inconsistency between writers. No, Galactus got bodied by the Mad Celestial https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0330231741ce5f2bf5f22de3077a06ca and https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-014c189f0965cfa3cd979266ef79552d and no Odin was going toe to toe with that Celestial and seemed to gain the upper hand by cutting it's arm off before he got ganged up on by the other members of the Fourth Host. If anything that Jonathan Hickman statement helps my argument because Destroyer Odin = a random Celestials = Mad Celestial >>> Galactus. LoL the scaling is a bit more like this: Mad Celestial >>> regular Celestials > Galactus > Odin. If you're referring to the Celestials that Galactus fought and was able to kill one of them remember that those weren't even average Celestials, they were no names who are fodder and are weaker than the names ones like the Fourth Host ...so...
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Lady Paramore Imagine being so salty like @BlotskyA just because someone as beautiful and majestic as Hayley Williams would sing away Dark Infinity

Hayley Williams' scaling

Misery Business: she gets you where she wants you, claims it was never her intention to brag but brags about it anyways, and steals it all away from you.

My thoughts you can't decode: She is immune to mind control or mindhax on all levels; even omnipotence can't mindhax her. She can only be controlled by Taylor York and that's only when she's willing to have that happen.

Ain't it fun: the world doesn't orbit like you want it to though you can't go crying to your mamma about it because you're on your own in the real world.

Ignorance: you instantly become clueless while she screams "Ignorance is your new best friend" and you shall no no knowledge for the rest of eternity. And she cannot be tricked because she is no longer the kid from your memory.

Fences: She mentally cripples you and puts you in an insane asylum.

Playing God: when you point a finger she bends it back and breaks it off.

Let The Flames Begin: she can create eternal flames that can literally burn anything/anyone to the core.

Hair color: her natural hair is unknown, even omniscient beings don't know what it is and have admitted "the mystery intrigues me" legend has it if you discover the truth about her hair you're mind would be overloaded and your head will explode then you'll be sent to a dimension where all of Hayley's wildest dreams come true with all of them involving you. Another legend has it that she dyes her hair with the Bloodspace (a realm that views us as fiction even the smallest drops of this Bloodspace are more than infinitely above all known concepts.

Now: she is completely indestructible to a point where omnipotence can't even harm her.

Grow Up: she destroys all of her "fake friends" and uses their energy to make herself infinitely more powerful.

Part II: she always gets the glory (which makes her beyond omnipotent) while leaving everyone else as "the shame we all became"

Last Hope: the salt in her wounds isn't burning anymore than it used to and the pain just makes her stronger.

Pressure: she crushes all of existence with an infinite amount of pressure

Riot: she stirs up a riot to get (misery) business done and can perfectly control the riot with her thoughts.

Brand New Eyes: she has cosmic awareness and sees all
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Doomsday That's not my reasoning, it's bait. Doomsday beats Hulk due to better feats (if we ignore classic hulk and outliers) and the basic this logic: Doomsday > bloodlusted Superman > Hulk
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Doomsday Doomsday is a weapon!
Hulk is an animal!
Weapon >>> animal.
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Black Adam Soloing full power no hold bar Superman and Shazam >>> ♾ infinity ♾ >>> losing to SUPPRESSED Thor.
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Team Protege Dark Infinity 8X >>> Dark Infinity
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Superman Deadpool will still regenerate from that, he'll be able to regenerate from getting atomized.
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I was LITERALLY going insane because of the humiliation of losing to @Breaker (who is often seen as a bad debater, I don't think he's that bad he's a decent debater in his own right though very few people on this site will agree to that) having the inability to disprove him knowing he was just taking scans out of context and denying FACTS about comics (like Thor never using his full might on the Hulk because he doesn't want to murder his), being unable to debunk those arguments, thinking they sounded fanboyist yet being unable to disprove them, and how I went completely crazy on both you and Breaker and hurled insults at both of you. Later, MUCH later I was like "I cannot take this anymore choosing to stop running away from the problem that making me go crazy. I took some time to prepare with some facts and notes before apologizing on your profile and the rest is history. The reason I chose to apologize to you first is because you're literally infinitely more reasonable than @Breaker could ever dream of being. Fun fact @Breaker hates me right now and thinks I hate the Hulk. I completely agree with you here "good debaters are willing to apologise or have an open mind in debates." And this debate kinda reminds me of World War Hulk vs Sentry with me being Sentry or Thor vs the Maestro in Ghosts of the Future part 5 of 5 with me being Thor. Any questions? Oh, and you still haven't answered my reply here https://www.superherodb.com/darkwing/1000-39927/messages/
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Thane *ever heard of a troll*
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Thane Thane fought on par with God Quarry Thanos who slapped King Thanos who was stated to be stronger than base Thanos.
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1: okay, I've realized my mistake. By your logic the Fallen One Silver Surfer is omnipotent because he was bodying two Thanos' one of them being King Thanos who's above TLT and the other bring 616 Thanos who prior lost his powers and used the Quarry of Creation to regain them so he might have been stronger than before which is heavily implied and with his newfound power he bodied King Thanos and called him pathetic so are both Quarry of Creation Thanos and the Fallen One equal to TOAA? Protege has absorbed the power of the Living Tribunal and Cosmic Cube Beyonder and despite that Scathan still proved to be superior to all that so is he equal to TOAA? And you remember Quarry of Creation Thanos who bodied King Thanos? He was stalemated by Thane who wielded the Phoenix Force so is Phoenix Force Thane also equal to TOAA?

2: so I guess I proved they aren't Beyonders because they don't have any feats to put them on that level just like how I don't have any feats to put me on God tier? I want to put emphasis on how are you said "...I believe, what exactly they could do" because I'm pretty sure that your beliefs don't mean much in this little argument.

3: Beyonders are not the only beings infinitely above the Asgardians Celestial, Fully Fed Galactus, abstracts, Oblivion, TLT, etc all come to mind. Yes they could be Celestials or Skyfathers but again if they were Beyonders then why did they have to feed off the Ragnorok cycle to survive? I never said Beyonders the only ones infinitely above Asgardians but they are factually infinitely above Asgardians just like a plethora of other characters are for a simple reason: Ivory Kings > Living Tribunal >>> >>> >>> abstract entities >>> infinity >>> Asgard. This Thorsleep https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0120de7fbc08e1f40720b0fec07e8dde needing to sleep would be a limitation which would mean no omnipotence because omnipotence has no limits. Either he went into a Thorsleep or he died, in mythology death was often described like a sleep and if Thor died that would also mean he's not omnipotent. Lol you actually think destroying a multiverse would make you omnipotent? By that logic Darkseid is omnipotent _Final Crisis #5, Galactus is omnipotent _Thor Annual 2011, Surtur is omnipotent _Journey Into Mystery (2011) #642 and to that extent Odin is also omnipotent _Thor (2011) #21, Thanos with the Heart of the Universe is omnipotent _Marvel the End #6, the Anti Monitor is omnipotent _Crisis on Infinite Earths #12, Pre Retcon Beyonder (the same one who Dr Doom outsmarted and Molecule Man stalemated) is omnipotent http://imgur.com/F4KYtNF. And so on and do fourth.
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not voted Which version of Vishnu is this?
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@Akhil this is my debate, please mind your own business.
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1: let me guess, you think the Beyonders are omnipotent? Even though Starbrand killed one of them and Doom harnessed the power of ALL of them and even with that he was harmed by the Infinity Gauntlet.

2: you mean like how TWSAIS' only feat is creating the Asgardian realms? Literally multiversal threat could do that. Then why wouldn't they just tell Loki who they were rather than leaving a riddle? And you still haven't answered my question of why beyonders would need to feed off of a cycle if they're omnipotent? Do you even know what omnipotence is?

3: I find it a little funny that the writer chose to call them "Celestial beings" when 1: Odin's already proven to be unable to stop the Celestials in Thor #300 just like he's powerless to stop TWSAIS. And 2: Marvel already has a race called the Celestials which have appeared in Thor's comics so Thor fans even those who only read his comics must have knowledge of them. Remember millions of dollars go into these comics each year, I don't think this is coincidental nameing because If they wanted to then they could have called them "astural beings" or "cosmic beings" to get the same point across but no they chose Celestial beings. Also I'd like to show you other statements for TWSAIS: 1: in X-men Alpha Flight #2 they are stated to be "to Asgardians what Asgardians are to us" putting them on Celestial tier because Asgardians or a finite number of times above us while Beyonders are more than infinity above Asgardians. I have a question for you: if Loki Agents of Asgard is Post Ragnorok then why are TWSAIS still alive after supposedly being killed by Thor in Thor #85? I'm bringing this up because it implies that King Thor didn't kill TWSAIS rather he only destroyed Yggdrasil which would only be multiversal+ not omnipotent. Also wasn't Thor forced into the Thorsleep in that issue? If he did then how the heck is he omnipotent?
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Thor Okay, but when dose it's speed transcend time?
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Thor @SirSpidey how dose Thor transcend time?
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1: why are Beyonders above all those characters who are above the Living Tribunal? If anything they should be equal to the Beyonders because they're above TLT just like they are.

2: so by that logic if I say a sacred quote am I now a god? HeHeHe I quote Paramore all the time guess who's now Hayley? Also if they were Beyonders then why did they need to feed off the Ragnorok cycle to survive?

3: oh, they are "CELESTIAL BEINGS" sorry about that. Here's the scan https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-fd754d098550810781f4406893c74779 also not how I said "pageS with an S.
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Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) Are you two the same person?
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Because 1: there's a plethora of characters stronger than the Living Tribunal like Protege, Scathan, King Thanos, and The First Fierment just to name a few so killing Beyonders won't put you on TOAA level. 2: Loki just SPECULATED that they were Beyonders, if I speculated that a weird light in the sky was a UFO is it now a UFO? 3: TWSAIS are Celestials which was literally stated in the comic Thor volume 1 #85 in the second to last page of it.
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Odin Okay. You mean Zeus who was FACTUALLY amped? Yes I do think he could destroy Thor like how he destroyed Hulk _Incredible Hulks #622, I was just using the Thor example to argue that Zeus is WEAKER than Odin and even then Zeus did toss Thor aside with his arm at one point in their fight but Thor got right back up and they went back to using lightning. That scan doesn't work, try again or give me the comic number where that scan was from. And yes you have shown some improvement, I almost can't believe that you are the same user who I destroyed in our first debate like four months ago.
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Team The One Below All Read the Ultimates 2 in order to understand.
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@Tyrannus: Batman. With. Prep. Is. A. Meme. For. The. Last. Dang. Time.
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Hulk & Wolverine Uh, okay.
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Team The One Below All ^TOAA vs TOBA^ (They are equals, authors don't lie)
^Oblivion vs Eternity (Oblivion > TOAA >>> >>> >>> Eternity)
^TFF vs HOTU Thanos (TFF is too powerful)
Knull vs Doom^ (Knull is Celestial tier, Doom is Beyonder tier, Beyonder >>> Celestials)
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Hulk & Wolverine What?!? You act like I was even gone that long. Nay, my votes okay.
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Hulk & Wolverine What's the matter @ClintBarton?
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Lady Paramore @Galagatus explain your vote.
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Hulk You mean Banner subconsciously suppresses the Hulk entity as shown in the Heart of the Monster story? Those feats (Onslaught, destroying the Dark Dimension, and creating shockwaves that shook an infinite number of dimensions) only happened when Hulk was separated from Banner and he won't be able to do those normally. That hit from not holding back Thor sent him flying which isn't nearly as impressive as tanking the attack head on. (This last part is a joke bty) and damaging Onslaught isn't even impressive since Captain America could damage him.
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