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Team Thor
-vs-
Team Odin

Created by: SirSpidey

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SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

* = Win / ^ = Draw
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Ardina* vs Supergirl
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- Considering Ardina is an exact duplicate of the Silver Surfer, Ardina could just absorb all of the Solar Radiation that exists inside Supergirl´s body which in return would force Supergirl to become as weak as a human. Which would mean Ardina easily defeats Supergirl. Ardina is more powerful, strong, fast, and durable
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Flash freezes them all and Odin, Supergirl, and Sentry obliterate them
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

When has the Flash III ever done that?
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

https://imgur.com/a/AWVDa
http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/Wally_Respect3/media/bWVkaWFJZDoyMjExODY2Ng==/?ref=
http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/Wally_Respect2/media/cGF0aDovbGFkZmEyLmpwZw==/?ref=
https://imgur.com/gallery/ul4sJ
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ca2bf115454d5eec0ffab29262954cb7-c
http://i.imgur.com/keC7oq5.jpg
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

And you managed to provide all non-canon feats for your evidence. Please, try again
2+ years member.
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Yet you use Odinforce/Thorforce Thor, who isn't canon.
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Voted: Team Odin

@SirSpidey Non-canon? There is only one version of Wally West Flash and he is from before the New 52. Wally West is currently part of the Titans and Barry Allen is the Flash.
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

@LordTracer: Why are ya´ll all saying Thor Force Thor is non-canon? Please, explain to me why he isn´t canon
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Thor

@wolfdragon123: That is not true. There is a Prime Earth version of him and a New Earth version of him. You cannot use evidence from the New Earth version of Flash III to debate the canon Prime Earth version of Flash III
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Wally West has only appeared as Flash III before the New 52, and that is clearly the one that is depicted on this website, so that is the version of him that is in this battle
2+ years member.
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@SirSpidey Because at the moment in the comics, Thor has neither the Odinforce nor the Thorforce.
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

@wolfdragon123: The version that we use on this website is the canon version, as we have been doing this entire time. So no, we are not using the non-canon version of Flash III, we are using the canon version of Flash III
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

There is no Flash III in the comics right now
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

@LordTracer: Lol, don´t talk about things you don´t know. Just because Thor doesn´t have the Odin Force currently, does not mean it is not canon? That makes literally zero sense
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

@wolfdragon123: What do you mean? Just read The Flash Volume 5
2+ years member.
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You said canon versions. Thor's canon version does not have the Odin/Thorforce.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

It's in the 616 universe, of course it's canon, that might be the most ridiculous statement all day.
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Canon versions means how the characters are in their current versions of Earth-616. In Thor's current 616 version, he does not have the Thorforce.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

When in the he'll has the word canon ever meant current? Silly statement, the 616 continuity is one timeline canon, whether you like it or not, it's all canon, it's all the same people.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

I'm off to bed now, goodnight.
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That's like saying because Captain America once held Mjolnir in 616, he always has Mjolnir.
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Right now, there are 2 Wally Wests in canon. There is the DC Rebirth Kid Flash II Wally West that is on the Teen Titans, and there is the New 52 Flash II Wally West. The Wally West that is currently Flash II was originally the first Kid Flash but he disappeared for 10 years and just recently became the second Flash when he returned. Flash III Wally West is from a completely different timeline where there is Jay Garrick Flash 1 and Barry Allen Flash II. So based on the name of the character on this website and when he was added to this website, he is of course intended to be the original Flash III from before the New 52. You can add another character for current Flash II Wally West if you want, but as it stands, this is the original Flash III.
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

@LordTracer: What? No. It's like saying Captain America lifting Mjolnir IS canon because it happened in the Earth 616 Universe. Canon does not mean current, like what @TheNemianLion said. That is true for DC, but Marvel isn't awful like DC. So stop confusing DC principles with Marvel principles. It makes you look extremely ignorant
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Canon does not always mean current with DC. Superman was bonded with Parallax in the Prime Earth continuity, and no longer is. That's canon. But since he's no longer connected with Parallax, there's no reason to use Parallax Superman in a battle.
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

@wolfdragon123: That would still make Flash III from Pre-New 52 non-canon as he has a different version in Rebirth. This site goes off of what is canon as that is what we have been doing this entire time and not the name. Even if the character was added to the database before the New 52, we still go off of what is canon. Wally West is no exception
remy94
1 year ago.
remy94
Team Battle
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Actually this site doesn't go off of the latest versions, if it did then Wally West would have to be updated. The version used in this battle is pre-flash point Wally West.
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

I submitted Flash II (Wally West) as a new character, so you can vote for him or just approve him if you want
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Thor

@remy94: Yes, I know. I said this website goes off of what is canon. And Wally West from Pre-New 52 is not canon. The version that is used in this battle is the Wally West from Rebirth as that is the canon version of him
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Thor

@wolfdragon123: I´m not accepting a character that is already in the database
remy94
1 year ago.
remy94
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Voted: Team Odin

Well if it is the rebirth Wally West then his suit needs to be changed, and all his feats in his powers and abilities need to be changed.
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Thor

* = Win / ^ = Draw
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Silver Surfer* vs Flash III
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- The Silver Surfer is just as fast and arguably faster. He is leagues past Flash III in terms of power, strength, and durability resulting in an easy win for Silver Surfer
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

* = Win / ^ = Draw
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Mangog* vs Sentry
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- Not only has Mangog defeated Thor (Thor has defeated the Sentry before), but Mangog also creates problems for Odin. Sentry would be a relatively easy victory for Mangog, especially because Mangog would get more and more powerful the angrier the Sentry gets. As long as there is anger anywhere in the Universe, Mangog will always exist, so molecular manipulation would not work on Mangog. Sorry, but Mangog factually defeats the Sentry
Sentress
1 year ago.
Sentress
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Voted: Team Odin

He would exist as a jar of honey
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Thor

When has the Sentry ever done that? NEVER
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

* = Win / ^ = Draw
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Thor* vs Odin
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- Not only has Thor defeated Galactus (A being who is portrayed to be the equal of Odin) in Thor Volume 1 #161, but Thor has also consistently defeated foes even more powerful than Odin or Galactus. Such as an amped Thanos who was equal to Death in terms of power in Thor Volume 2 #25, an Odin Force empowered Majeston Zelia (meaning she had her power on top of Odin´s) in Thor Volume 2 #12, and the Void (the much more powerful version of the Sentry) in Siege #4. Thor has countless of other victories like these, but I don´t think I need to reference them as the evidence I have currently will surely prove sufficient enough
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

A. The void isn't more powerfull than the sentry he just doesn't hold back
B. He wanted to die
C. Every time Odin fights Thor he wins so bringing people that Thor won who you claim are more powerfull than Odin isn't helping you
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

A. Exactly my point
B. And your point is....?
C. When have Odin and Thor ever fought to the death and Odin won? NEVER. Hell, when have Odin and Thor ever fought in general, and I mean an actual fight, not just Odin knocking Thor away? To my knowledge, NEVER. You probably can't even provide a comic suggesting Odin has ever fought Thor. So saying Odin has fought and defeated Thor without providing evidence is not helping you at all. I on the other hand, have provided evidence to suggest Thor would defeat Odin which means, as of right now, Thor factually defeats Odin
Jakcj
1 year ago.
Jakcj
Team Battle
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Not voted yet

Odin could take his Hammer from him couldn't he?
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Thor

@Amirvel and I confirmed that Odin has no control over Mjolnir as that would be unfair
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

I'll just finish the last one: sylar vs cheetah😂😂😂😂 that would be the easiest battle ever sylar will just slice her throat using his telekinesis
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Thor

I´ll get on tomorrow. Need to sleep
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Odin

Ok
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Odin

Yoda vs doom: doom can fire 100,000 mega volts of electricity, Yoda can't stand that. Doom can also banish him to a demonic realm that he can't escape from
Winner: doom
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
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Voted: Team Odin

Supergirl vs ardina: they are pretty much equal in terms of power, both can easily absorb everything the other has to through so it comes down to physical strength and experience and Supergirl takes that.
Winner: supergirl
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Surfer vs wally
Winner: surfer
DarkProdigy
1 year ago.
DarkProdigy
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Not voted yet

Thor vs Odin*
Mangog vs Sentry*
Silver Surfer* vs Flash (Wally)
Ardina vs Supergirl*
Yoda vs Doctor Doom*
Cheetah* vs Sylar
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Silver Surfer vs Odin and Sentry*
Cheetah vs Supergirl and Doctor Doom*
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

How on Earth would cheetah beat sylar?
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

By moving faster than Sylar can think
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Odin

Sentry vs mangog: sentry can control molecule man's molecule, he can do it to mangog as well, if he gets to angry and turn into the void mangog will have no chance but he doesn't need that to win.
Winner: sentry
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Odin

Ok let's start: Odin vs Thor: Odin can take away Thor's hammer and depower him, even without that his odinforce is way beyond Thor's mjiolnir, every time they fightb Odin wins.
Winner: Odin
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
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Voted: Team Thor

Hold on, don´t get too excited. I don´t think it is fair to take away Thor´s weapon. Let´s just assume Odin has no control over Mjolnir
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But wouldn't that make it non canon @SirSpidey ?
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It's fair to take away Thor's weapon 100%. Because in a fight that's what Odin would do
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Finally when someone makes a great point about Odin vs Thor you completely shut it down by saying "Hold on, don´t get too excited. I don´t think it is fair to take away Thor´s weapon. Let´s just assume Odin has no control over Mjolnir" Wow, just wow
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Fine, as you always say the odinforce can kill almost every one, it can kill Thor, it can also absorb everything Thor has to through at him.
Winner: odin
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And to think you call yourself the best debater on the website.
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

@DarkProdigy: For your first comment, no, how would that make something non-canon? Explain yourself. For your second comment, In a fair fight, Odin would let Thor have Mjolnir as that would be like taking away Captain America´s shield, which is not fair one bit. For your third comment, Odin taking away Mjolnir from Thor is not a good point. It is just a cheap and unfair way to make Odin win. So naturally, of course I am going to immediately shut it down. It´s not like I said Odin couldn´t do that after we already debated who would win. I knew it would create a problem and I addressed it immediately. For your fourth comment, I did not self-proclaim that I am the best debater on this website. I am just stating who ya´ll said was the best debater. Here, just read through this and be humbled, https://www.superherodb.com/forum/who-is-the-best-debater-on-this-website/100-2903/
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Thor

Are we assuming that Yoda´s lightsaber can cut through anything?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Odin

Yes
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Odin

So no odinforce Thor right? About sylar there are actually 2 Canon versions of him pre and post depowerment (they are equally powerfull but have slightly different powers)
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Odinforce Thor isn't Canon..
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Thor

I mean I don´t really need Odin Force Thor, but that is the version that is in the database. So it´s up to you. For Sylar, just use the newest incarnation of him
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Odin Force Thor is canon. Why wouldn´t he be?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Ok. Well if you don't need the odinforce then let's have Thor without odinforce
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Alright
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Because he had it for a relatively short time
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
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Voted: Team Thor

A relatively short time!? An entire run is not a short time. I´m not saying Thor had the Odin Force for a short time, but in general, just because someone had something for a short time, does not mean it is not canon
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Battle Conditions:
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• Do not reply to your comments, keep stacking them on top of each other
• They are all out to kill (no morals)
• All characters are their canon versions
• Fight takes place on an unpopulated planet 40 times the size of Earth
• Must have evidence of every claim you make
• No prep time
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Anything you want to change, take out, or add?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Should we start or do you want to add something else?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Can my team have uru armors?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Only if it's ok I don't really need them actually
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Thor

No. I mean since Thor also has the Odin Force, he too could create Uru equipment, but I think that would be kinda dumb
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Fair enough
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Matchups:
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Thor vs Odin
Mangog vs Sentry
Silver Surfer vs Flash III
Ardina vs Supergirl
Yoda vs Doctor Doom
Cheetah III vs Sylar
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Do you agree?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Sure
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Not voted yet

Are people allowed to do head to head outcomes while you guys debate?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Odin

Sure
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Odin

Do you want to make some rules first?
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Sure, I´ll make them and you can see if you agree with them or not
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

@Amirvel, do you want to debate this?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
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Voted: Team Odin

Sure, just out of curiosity, if this is not a part of the competition why do you have a DC character in your team
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Because your rules dictate that I do
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Yeah but that's not an official part of the competition so rules don't matter... Nevermind let's start

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