Team Thor
-vs-
Team Hulk

Created by: ManofPower

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TheSuspect666
282 days ago
TheSuspect666
Team Battle
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

If this was Odin Force Thor he easyyyy solos
TheNemianLion
282 days ago
TheNemianLion
Team Battle
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

You shouldn't use Wolverine Vs Thor at all as it was a terrible showing from Thor, that's it, that's all it was.
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Again, the slightly angry Hulk fluctuates, sometimes that's Spider-Man Level, sometimes that's at Thor's level, there is no Base Hulk dude, there's no ways around it.
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No if Hulk was only high Multi Universal, he wouldn't of even moved those infinite dimensions, he couldn't destroy one of them without not destroying all of them as there was equal distribution, so the fact that he was shaking something of infinite mass means he is FAR past 1,000 universes and that's not even close, infinite of something, destroying of not, even slightly damaging it or effecting it in any way is still more than destroying 1000 of something.
LordTracer
282 days ago
LordTracer
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

That's all hypothetical though. You don't know for sure that shaking infinite dimensions is above destroying 1000 space-time continuums (which Hulk can't do, because he's not a 4th dimensional being).
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

It's not hypothetical, an infinite amount of something is over undecillions more than thousands of something, are you saying shaking something is undecillions of times less impressive than destroying something? NO! Maybe 10 - 100 max!
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You don't need to be a four dimensional being to have that power, Odin's 3D and he can most likely destroy more than 1,000 universes.
LordTracer
282 days ago
LordTracer
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Shaking something is vastly inferior to destroying something. At the very most, Hulk would be low multiversal or multi-universal/universal+. Sorry, I mean 4D power, not being a 4D being. Also, Odin's only multi-universal/universal+, which means; "This is for characters who can destroy and/or create the entire 4-dimensional space-time of a single universe, not just the physical matter within one. For example, an entire timeline."
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

I'll take Low Multiversal, and reluctantly agree of that, even though I think he's mid Multiversal, it can't be inferior an undecillions of times over, also, infinite is far more than an undecillions, even more than an octodecillion, so tell me, how many times over is destroying something more impressive than shaking something viciously?
LordTracer
282 days ago
LordTracer
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

100 - 1000 times maybe. I mean, a human can shake a rock as much as he wants, he's not going to destroy it without much more force than he can muster as a normal human.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

Than Hulk is still devil lions times over universal is destroying something is 100 - 1,000 times more impressive than shaking it, you just proved my point.
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

@TheNemianLion, I found a flaw in your argument. You said that I could not use Wolverine hurting Thor in a debate because it is a one time low end feat. Well than that means Hulk shaking the infinite amount of universes can not be used because it is a one time high end feat. I did some research on Ironclad and found out he is nothing more than a slightly stronger version of The Thing. He and Hulk (still can't find it) only did that one time, but on a very consistent basis Ironclad has been defeated by characters such as Captain America and Gilgamesh, and there is no way in hell either of them are multi-universal. Ironclad exchanging blows with Hulk is a one time occurrence and has been constantly shown to be taken out by very low tier level characters and only defeated Hulk one time WITH HELP the other U-Foes and Ironclad can only lift between 85-90 tons, which is not enough to shake anything on a universal range, and with his density manipulation can only weigh as much as a mountain. He isn't even continental level so there is no way he had punches strong enough to shake a single universe, not even a SUN. So either that feat is not real or is a ONE TIME SHOWING and can't be used.
TheNemianLion
282 days ago
TheNemianLion
Team Battle
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

What is a base Hulk? That doesn't exist, there IS A CALM HULK, which can hold together quintillions tectonic plates, lift hundreds of billions of tons of a mountain, etc, but this Hulk is Savage Hulk anything under World Breaker, that means he is able to clap away Universes, destroy multiple universes at a time just by fighting, shake a LIMITLESS NUMBER OF SPACE (Dimensions) etc, which places him at Multiversal Level, which is one tier, no such thing as Low, Medium or High, but somehow people still like to categorise them, so fine, wherever you want to place Hulk on the Multiversal list, Hulk is, up to your preference, point is, Thor is Multi-Universal with POTENTIAL Multiversal power when he uses the Odin Force.
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Jane Foster is not equal to Thor, she got beaten up like a doll by a depowered Thor if a Thor without Mjlormir stomped Jane, imagine what a Thor WITH Mjlormir could do, he'd one shot her.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

Are you seriously using Ice Man VS Red Hulk as an argument? Seriously, bro, I'll let you retract that one, a low showing or a low ball cannot be used in a debate because you know full well Red Hulk stomped both The Hulk, Terrax AND Silver Surfer in like 30 minutes, so Red Hulk is Multi Universal - Multiversal, also, you want to use that? Okay, then you wouldn't be mad if I used Thor struggling with Wolverine? That means Thor is small building Level and Town level with the Odin force, every other Thor character scales around that... No, I absolutely CAN'T do that! And I won't! That's stupid!
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Glad you appreciate Skaar's capabilities, as he is almost as powerful as his father, and as powerful as the World Breaker with his Old Power, as in the same World Breaker than Stomped Arm'Cheddon, someone far more powerful than the Silver Surfer, Arm'Cheddon would probably scale to a angry Thor, and Hulk just man handled that kid.
LordTracer
282 days ago
LordTracer
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Shaking dimensions is not the same as destroying them, so it does not give him multiversal power.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

No, if it did, he would be hyperversal, but he didn't, so he's multiversal, also, shaking An infinite number of space with pure strength is multiversal attack potency, he shook something that was infinitely large, I'm actually lowballing the hell out of him, the fact that his shaken something that's infinite, makes him infinite, but I'm throwing you a bone when I say he's Multiversal.
LordTracer
282 days ago
LordTracer
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

That would not make him Hyperversal. For one, that's illogical in every way, as it would put him above the Ultimate Nullifier, Infinity Gauntlet and put him one tier away from the Multi-Abstracts. Two, to be Hyperversal, your very existence must be above 12th dimensional. Hulk is only 3rd dimensional. At the very most, Hulk would be high multiversal as he shook infinite 4th dimensional space, and the very definition of high multiversal states; "Characters who can destroy and/or create a countably infinite number of 4-dimensional universal space-time continuums." But since Hulk didn't destroy the dimensions, he's under the level of high multiversal (which makes sense, because that's the level of Eternity, Classic Dormammu and the Ultimate Nullifier)
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

When I mean base Hulk I am saying the moment he Hulk's out. You use lowballs all the time, so I don't see the problem here, and I always use the thing about Wolverine hurting Thor, I've used it on a lot of battle typically the ones with X-Men vs Avengers and stuff like that. And holding the plates together is not as impressive as destroying an entire planet, since the tectonic plates are less than 1/1000th of Earth weight. And where does it state this is savage Hulk?
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

I never claimed him to be HIGH multiversal, I claimed for him to be somewhere in the realm of Multiversal, either low or mid, Low being the Lowball, Mid being the High Ball, he's somewhere in between.
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Oh, when Hulk shakes an infinite space he is Multiversal but when Goku does it he is only universal? You see the problem with that?
LordTracer
282 days ago
LordTracer
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Goku shook infinite nothingness. Hulk shook things that actually existed.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

I don't know if you realise, but Savage Hulk is common Hulk, also, the Hulk's power fluctuates from the moment he Hulk's out, World Breaker Hulk by your logic is Base Hulk, because he Hulked out as World Breaker, there is no BASE HULK, his base is determined by how angry he is at the time.
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I don't use lowballs commonly, only mid-end feats unless I specify that I'm talking about high end or low end, I don't give out lowballs and that's not disputable, you shouldn't use Wolverine VS Thor, because if you do, as I said, you're saying either Wolverine's Universal, or Thor's small building level.
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I never said it's as impressive as destroying a planet, it's 1,000th of a planet buster while he's CALM, but tell me, when the hell has Bruce ever been calm Hulking out? Only VERY RARELY! It's a very rare phenomenon.
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Every time you guys say that it makes it sound more impressive because he shook something that was nonexistent meaning he shook something beyond what we can fathom and that makes no sense, if he shook it that means something was obviously there or else there would be nothing to shake in the first place. Space is literally nothingness. Why do you think it is called the "VOID of space"? A void is the absence of anything. And The world of void was obviously something because it is a DIMENSION and all dimensions have SPACE in them, if is was truly nothing there would be NO gravity in the arena and nothing to make the arena out of if nothing was there. It is called the world of Void because there is NOTHING is there EXCEPT SPACE itself, which is no different than what Hulk did, and I still can't find that feat anywhere when did he do it.
LordTracer
282 days ago
LordTracer
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Hulk still wouldn't be in the multiversal ranges, as the definition of low multiversal reads; "Characters who can destroy and/or create up to 1000 universal space-time continuums." He might be high universal, of which the definition reads; "Characters who have an infinite degree of 3-dimensional power."
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Wolverine is not small building level. Physically, he is multi-city block level, and his adamantium claws are on the multi-universal range.
LordTracer
282 days ago
LordTracer
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

If you're shaking nothing, then you're doing exactly what it sounds like, you shook nothing at all. You did absolutely nothing. Goku did absolutely nothing in that "feat."
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

The dimensions Hulk shook had inhabitants in them, planets in them, etc, in fact, they weren't really dimensions at all, they were populated areas with masses such as planets or stars, they are more like universes than they were dimensions, so that renders what you said completely untrue.
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Also, bullshit you can't find the feat, literally all you have to do is a google search, go to google images and it's in the top two or three rows... You are just flat out lying about that, seriously.
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Also Tracer, he's shaken an INFINITE NUMBER OF THEM, that's far more than 1,000, do you realise what you are actually saying? An infinity is far larger than 1000, so if he shook an infinite number of them, he easily should be able to destroy 1,000 of them, he just distributed his power equal to an infinite number of them.
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Well like I said I only use that Wolverine feat when in debates about X-Men or to mess with lesser debaters.
=======================================================================================================And for when he Hulks out, I am using the standard vanilla Hulk, when he is fairly angry.
======================================================================================================= You never specifically said it was anything special but the WAY you brought it up made it seem like it was of significance, sorry for taking it wrongly (that's what she said) I'm am slightly tired.
LordTracer
282 days ago
LordTracer
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

He only shook them though. If he was low multiversal, he should have destroyed at least some of the dimensions. But he didn't, so high universal makes the most sense.
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Can you show me the scan, I'm not bullsiting I Looked it up and all I'm getting is him shaking Earth, and one when he fought Hyperion.
@LordTracer, he shook SPACE itself, by saying shaking space itself means causing rips in space means you did nothing, and all the reality warppers warped nothing at all because Space is nothing, and Eternity is literally nothing because he is made up of Space itself, then that means you are also saying creating a pocket dimension is doing nothing because that pocket dimension has nothing in it and then you just sound ridiculous. If shaking SPACE itself is doing nothing than that means an earthquake is stronger than Goku because it shook something, the Earth, so that argument makes no sense. The world of Void is not literally nothing, it is just a dimension that has nothing in it except SPACE, so Goku shook the entire 3th dimension or as you call it the 4th.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

I have 20 percent charge on my IPod, also dude it's easy to find, he did it with Ironclad, Silver Surfer on roofs.
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Well if he used Iron Clad, then he wasn't able to do it on his own. I don't know what it is but it can be one of 2 things, either something that boosts your power up, or concentrates it meaning without ironclad he technically could do it on his own.
LordTracer
282 days ago
LordTracer
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

He didn't shake space, he shook a void, which by definition is nothing.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

Half of infinity is still infinity, my dude honestly, split infinity in half, tell me what you get?
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Ironclad was AMPED TO THE MOON by Vector, HOWEVER! Hulk was not, he was using his own power to fight that Ironclad and they were equal, they both had infinite power, just the SHOCKWAVES of their fight was destroying an infinite number of dimensions, if they attacked those dimensions directly they would have indefiently destroyed them, they however absorbed most of the force into each other everytime they classed.
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

You are not understanding and taking the name incredibly too literal (to understand watch the show), if it was NOTHING, then it wouldn't exist in the first place, it is the Void of all LIFE, meaning nothing LIVES there and there are NO PLANETS, but it has SPACE inside of it otherwise nobody could move within it. And by your logic a creating a pocket dimension is creating nothing because there is nothing inside of it.
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

My bad, I had no idea (still don't) what Iron Clad was, but that proves Beerus could destroy 3 universe sized dimensions if he didn't collide fists with Goku, this applies to the same thing, ripples are not as strong as the impact that causes them, so Both Hulk and Goku if they weren't colliding with someone else would destroy universes (not saying the same amount).
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

But with 20 - 30 punches worth? That seems like a little bit of a stretch dude, at least to me.
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Well you and I will have to disagree on the punches thing because we believe totally opposite thing about it, but regardless of how many punches it would take it would still happen eventually. And you have to take into account each collision shook the three realms every punch shook it, and the same could be said about Hulk, he and Iron Clad exchanged more punches but still only shook it. Think of shaking something as a ripple, like throwing a rock in the water. The initial impact of the rock was enough to break threw the water which is what causes the splash, the waves/ ripples that shake the water decrease incrementally at an exponential rate, like multiple square routes (can't think of the math term for that) and the further it spans the less and less it effects and it will expand infinitely or until it reaches the end, so shaking a single universe is many times the size of a river or pound, so to shake the entire thing is still very impressive, all the way to the end, and when you take into account each increment is exponentially smaller than the previous than the initial impact would be unfathomably larger than the ripples caused from it, so I have no doubt Beerus and Goku could have destroyed at least 1 of those universes with the initial impact of their punches.
TheNemianLion
283 days ago
TheNemianLion
Team Battle
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

Thor VS Hulk*
Jane* VS She Hulk
Loki VS Red Hulk*
Lady Loki* VS Red She Hulk
Thor MCU* VS Hulk MCU (For now)
Beta Ray Bill VS Skaar*
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Hulk* VS Jane
Red Hulk* VS Lady Loki
Skaar* VS Thor MCU
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This is a stomp.
ManofPower
283 days ago
ManofPower
Team Battle
Voted: Team Hulk

I knew it . Me and you are the rebellion .😂
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

@MOP the only reason you switched is because Nemian showed up. You couldn't disprove me so you hopped to him. This is base regular Hulk who has lost to Thor without Thor force (Odin force) on multiple accounts and Beta Ray Bill is stronger than Thor (has defeated him twice and hasn't lost against him) so that outs him above base Hulk also. The She-Hulk (as sexy as they are) won't do much to either Thor. Jane Foster is just as powerful as Thor was (with Odin/Thor force) before he became unworthy so she is also above Hulk. Red Hulk was held in place by Iceman! and Iceman is nowhere near Thor levels so he gets clapped up. That leaves only Skaar (the only one with any real chance) and as powerful as he is he can not defeat the Thor's and one person stronger than Thor by himself.
ManofPower
283 days ago
ManofPower
Team Battle
Voted: Team Hulk

I know .
Just couldn't let Nemian be the only Voter for team Hulk and also IMO i really think Team Hulk wins . You can throw all the feats and stuff but I really think hulk can win .
(I'm really to tired to debate anyway)
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Well than by default you forfeit this debate which means Team Hulk only has 1 vote.
ManofPower
282 days ago
ManofPower
Team Battle
Voted: Team Hulk

*rolls eyes* 😂 Whatever Bro .
Too tired to argue 😴😊
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Strategy #126 of how to win a debate- Relentlessly attack a sleepy adversary for they are defenseless! *proceeds to do an evil laugh*.
ManofPower
282 days ago
ManofPower
Team Battle
Voted: Team Hulk

Watch out @Soul i gotta Hitman out for you and his name is Daniel Howe * Even Eviler Laugh*
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NnMQUGd-XYk
1+ years member.
Not voted yet

nemianlion look at your acc
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

I meant to reply.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

ManOfPower and I are connected and tight, we care dearly for each other, so stomp giving him flack! XD
wolfdragon123
283 days ago
wolfdragon123
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

The original Thor and Beta Ray Bill could probably take on all of Team 2
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Hulk

Except for the fact that Hulk, Red Hulk, or Skaar would individually beat either of them.
KarlWolfe
283 days ago
KarlWolfe
Team Battle
Voted: Team Thor

If they had WWH it would be a better fight
FYI this is Creature99
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

It would be better, but they would still lose, because everyone being familiar with WWH they Thor would triple team him immediately and win because Sentry fought WWH to a stand still is around the level of Thor, so multiply that by 3 and they stomp WWH, and then everyone else stands little chance because BRB and the two Loki's can hold off everyone else until they deal with WWH and then it's a stomp fest after.
ManofPower
283 days ago
ManofPower
Team Battle
Voted: Team Hulk

Thor (No Odin Force) vs Hulk*
JAne* vs She-Hulk
Loki vs Red Hulk*
Lady Loki vs She-Rulk *
Beta Ray Bill vs Skaar*
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Jane vs Hulk* the others watch since this is a God stomp
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

@MOP it is not a godstomp by any means. You clearly don't know anything about Jane Foster Thor, because she didn't have the Odin Force and still whopped Odin's whole entire ass and Odin>>>>>Hulk. So Jane can beat anyone one team 2 herself, even soloing both She-Hulks. In all honesty the only ones one team 2 that stand any sort of chance is Hulk/ Red Hulk/ and Skarr, But after Jane Foster solos half the team it's a 6 on three, and all three Thors along with both Loki's and Beta Ray Bill who is stronger than Thor Team 1 bodies Team 2 in everyway possible.
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Well she didn't whoop his ass completely but still fought evenly with him for a majority of the fight even hurting him while Hulk got wreaked by Zeus instantly who is equal to or slightly below Odin.
ManofPower
283 days ago
ManofPower
Team Battle
Voted: Team Hulk

So Jane is more powerful than thor?
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

No, she is equal to Thor. Thor could Whoop Odin's ass also but he doesn't out of respect for his father. If you had the ability to beat up your father would you? No because you have respect for your father, Jane has no relation to Odin so she had no reason not to whoop his ass. The only people on team 2 that stand any chance are Skaar and Hulk, who would lose to either Thor (even without Odin force) and Beta Ray Bill, so Team 1 stomps.
ManofPower
283 days ago
ManofPower
Team Battle
Voted: Team Hulk

Darn . I thought this was equal .
What are your thoughts @Nemian?
IMABATMAN42
283 days ago
IMABATMAN42
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Thor^ vs Hulk^
Jane Foster* vs She-Hulk
Loki vs Red Hulk*
Loki* vs Red She Hulk
Thor (MCU)* vs Hulk (MCU)
Beta Ray Bill* vs Skaar
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Jane Foster, Loki, Thor (MCU), and Beta Ray Bill* vs Red Hulk
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Whoops, Red She Hulk would beat Lady Loki (tbh I thought it was @LordTracer's OC, my bad 😅) then it would be Jane Foster and Thor (MCU) (who, believe it or not, is pretty strong, at least, based on scaling from Thanos, who wiped out half the universe, he has to be at least multi-galactic) vs Red Hulk
Jane Foster and Thor (MCU) vs Red Hulk* (Pretty Hard Fight)
Beta Ray Bill* vs Red She Hulk
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Beta Ray Bill^ vs Fatigued Red Hulk^
(Too close for me to decide, but I already voted, anyone want to tell me who wins 😁?)
LordTracer
283 days ago
LordTracer
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Thor^ v. Hulk
Jane Foster^ v. She-Hulk
Loki v. Red Hulk^
Lady Loki v. Red She-Hulk^
MCU Thor^ v. MCU Hulk
Beta Ray Bill^ v. Skaar
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Thor, MCU Thor^ v. Red Hulk
Jane Foster, Beta Ray Bill^ v. Red She-Hulk
ManofPower
283 days ago
ManofPower
Team Battle
Voted: Team Hulk

Who wins
Thors vs Hulks
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Thor

Thor with Odin Force?
ManofPower
283 days ago
ManofPower
Team Battle
Voted: Team Hulk

No