Team Odin
-vs-
Team Luke Skywalker

Created by: Amirvel

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EmptyHand
48 days ago
EmptyHand
Team Battle
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Dormammu solos
Dark_Wing
52 days ago
Dark_Wing
Team Battle
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Odin* vs grandmaster Luke Skywalker (but this is rotj Luke)
Sentry* vs Hal
Flash* vs X-23 (stomp)
Dr strange blinks supergirl out of existence
Dormammu beats doom (stomp)
Superboy prime stomps sylar

They all team up on Odin Wally and Sentry and alliterate. I honestly thinks Dormammu could solo but more likely he would need a bit of backup
soratoumiga
300 days ago
soratoumiga
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Again, Dormammu solos.
Sentress
1 year ago.
Sentress
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

I really like this tean, sentry and Supergirl are my 2 favorite characters
Sentress
1 year ago.
Sentress
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

But that not why they would win of course, there is no one in the other team sting enough to beat them or Odin
DarkProdigy
1 year ago.
DarkProdigy
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

LETS GOO. I knew we could get team Odin on the green line
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

@LordTracer: Sentry beats Hal Jordan by dispersing his molecules
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Or Hal changes Sentry into a puddle of water before he even thinks to do that.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

You know what I'm not giving up uru armors they have them but let's say they don't have, and you know what for some reason even the people who voted for me still seem to think that Hal beats sylar (which he won't as I explained) let me give you a what if scenario. Then we have dormammu and Odin fighting of course (Odin wins alone but don't worry he'll get help soon) sentry takes down Luke, doom fights strange and fails. Supergirl holds superboy while flash fights Hal. Sentry finishes with Luke, helps flash flash goes to help Supergirl sylar then goes and checks Hal's brain, take the ring and goes to fight superboy while sentry destroys strange and goes to help dormammu, if for some reason dormammu manages to hold DSS and Odin (which he won't) Supergirl flash and sylar will come and help once they finished with superboy. This won't happen cuz Odin will freeze time and make uru armors
LordTracer
1 year ago.
LordTracer
Team Battle
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

@Amirvel How long does it take Odin to create uru armor? Cause if it takes more than three seconds, Dormammu could easily kill him.
And to everyone who says Sentry beats Hal, how?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

It'll take the snap of his fingers
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Again, how?
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Odin usually has the dwarves of Nidavellar to create his uru equipment which takes at least a day to make according to my knowledge
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Most of the time there was this one time when he did it immediately when iron man needed it
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Most of the time there was this one time when he did it immediately when iron man needed it
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Also Odin can stop time and do that when everyone else is frozen, he can keep Dr unfroze so if anything happens doom goes back in time and fixes it. This plan is failure-proof
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Also Odin can stop time and do that when everyone else is frozen, he can keep Dr unfroze so if anything happens doom goes back in time and fixes it. This plan is failure-proof
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Except Hal moves faster than time. So, failure. And since Odin has needed the dwarves of Nidavellar to make the uru armor, and only once done it at the snap of his fingers, he can't do it here. So no uru armor.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Wait why can't he do it again? He didn't do it with the snap of his fingers but he did it using his own magic and it took seconds. If Hal for some reason isn't stopped by Odin's time freeze Odin and doom will fight him and destroy him then make the uru armor and that will only make the fight easier for my team later as sylar can help Supergirl fight superboy from the beginning and doesn't have to go through Hal (only Laura)
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Because he's only done it once on his own, and most of the time he's needed the dwarves. And even if he didn't need the dwarves, in the seconds it takes for him to snap his fingers, Hal will have already had enough time to take out all of your team on his own.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

He never needed them he is the king of Asgard why would he do it himself unless he needs it fast? And no it's not rue Hal won't do that cuz he'll he froze in time
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Did... did you not see what @SirSpidey said? He has the dwarves make the armor. And Hal is also a time manipulator, so he could stop time before Odin does.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Why do you think he'll do it before Odin? The most he might do is somehow not be frozen, doom and Odin will take him and then Odin will create the weapons, Odin can create and manipulate matter, he has the odinforce than can forge anything he doesn't need the dwarves
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

They do it for him because he is the king and he has no reason to do it himself unless it's needed fast
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

He'll do it before Odin because Hal is faster than Odin. And once again, Odin's only shown he doesn't need the dwarves once. Every other time, he's needed them.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

No he didn't, the fact that they did it and not him doesn't mean he can't do it. And it doesn't matter who can run faster it matters who can stop time faster and that's odin
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

No, Hal is just faster than Odin, period.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Ok you are not listening to what I'm saying. The fact that he is faster does not mean that he'll freeze time first
Heep
1 year ago.
Heep
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

No, United Statian. Mexican is american.
From America continent.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

No one here is Mexican
Heep
1 year ago.
Heep
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

@ThorGodOfThunder94
Please quote troll of me
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

FYI both team has 3 americans so your reason for voting team Luke isn't only extremely stupid but also doesn't stand
Heep
1 year ago.
Heep
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

At 16:00 GMT, my vote still count.
@Imerval
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

@Galactus as the founder of this amazing website I'd really appreciate your opinion on this battle (based on the debate we had)
Heep
1 year ago.
Heep
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

You loose and ask deity help
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Heep, you are the biggest troll I've seen on this site. Getting boring now...
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

@Dellmany may I ask why you voted as you did?
batsheet
1 year ago.
batsheet
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

If they can kill anyone and Sylar is still alive, he should be able to steal their power.
Heep
1 year ago.
Heep
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

No draw. Commies are better.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Too bad I don't have a say in it but I really think you vote shouldn't count
SirSpidey
1 year ago.
SirSpidey
Team Battle
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

* = Win / ^ = Draw
Round 1
- Odin^ vs Dormammu^
- Sentry* vs Hal Jordan
- Flash* vs Luke Skywalker
- Supergirl vs Superboy-Prime*
- Doctor Doom vs Doctor Strange*
- Sylar* vs X-23
Round 2
- Odin/Sentry* vs Dormammu
- Flash vs Superboy-Prime*
- Sylar vs Doctor Strange*
Round 3
- Odin* vs Doctor Strange
- Sentry* vs Superboy-Prime
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A well fought victory for @AmirvelΒ΄s Team
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

@Percival did you change your mind now after reading the debate?
Martin
1 year ago.
Martin
Team Battle
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Odin vs Dormammu*
Sentry* vs Luke
Flash* vs X-23
Supergirl vs Superboy*
Doctor Doom vs Doctor Strange*
Syler vs Hal*
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Sentry* vs Superboy
Flash vs Strange*
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Sentry vs Strange, Dormammu, Hal*
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

There's no way Dormammu beats Odin
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Please explain yourself, did you read the arguments?
Martin
1 year ago.
Martin
Team Battle
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

I'm changing my vote because I read something about Odin and his abilities and he is pretty poweful so this is results:
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Odin* vs Dormammu
Sentry* vs Hal
Supergirl vs Superboy*
Doom vs Strange*
Sylar* vs X-23
Flash vs Luke*
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Odin* vs Strange
Sentry* vs Superboy
Sylar vs Luke*
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Odin, Sentry* vs Luke
Both can take him down.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

And everyone who didn't vote yet..
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

And everyone who didn't vote yet..
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

And @Martin 's
DarkProdigy
1 year ago.
DarkProdigy
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

I'm interested to see @SirSpidey 's opinion about this
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Yeah me too
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

@Ezio I'm interested whats your opinion about this
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

@Ezio I'm interested whats your opinion about this
Heep
1 year ago.
Heep
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Team Skywalker only has two united-statians.
Team Odin has three.
The less the better in my opinion.
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

So you're saying that 2 powerhouses would beat 3 with the exact same power? (not using this battle as an example)
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

I don't understand how this is an explanation for why team Luke would win....
Heep
1 year ago.
Heep
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Because I was not sure.
Now I am.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Why? Did you read my arguments? Are you aware of the facts that my team has uru armors?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

@Heep I saw you changed your vote may I ask why?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

And even tho it's death seed sentry and not normal sentry
windshadow
1 year ago.
windshadow
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Odin* vs Luke
Sentry* vs Hal
Flash* vs X-23
Supergirl vs Docotr Strange*
Doctor Doom vs Dormammu*
Sylar vs Superboy-prime*
odin* vs dr strange
Sentry vs Dormammu*
Flash vs superboy prime*
Odin vs dormammu & superboy prime*
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Did you read our arguments? Neither he nor LordTracer say the battle will work like that it won't be one on one
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

*neither I
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

oh ok. wasn't bothered looking down. 😜 . But ill give team luke the slight upper hand.
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

oh ok. wasn't bothered looking down. 😜 . But ill give team luke the slight upper hand.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Even tho my team has uru armor and weapons? Did you read my arguments? I'm sure they'll convince you differently😀
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

who is sylar?
DarkProdigy
1 year ago.
DarkProdigy
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Come on lets get these votes up people
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Lol thanks for the support
3+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Wally could probably just freeze everyone and kill them all with help of Odin, Sentry, and Supergirl. I don't know a lot about Skylar, but he might be able to steal someone else's powers to help.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

How would he freeze everyone without Hal vaporizing him?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

With sylar taking the ring and becoming "multiversal threats" as you claim Hal to be and with the uru armor protecting him, even if syalr for some reason can't do that (he definitely can I see no reason why he wouldnt) wally can at least hold Hal for one second so sylar takes the ring
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Sylar can't take Hal's ring. Even if he somehow manages to remove it before being turned to space dust, he won't be able to wear it. The ring has to choose you. You can't just take it. And in the time it takes Sylar to understand that, Hal will take the ring back and, like I said, vaporize him.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Ok, this is something I didn't know but doom will know that after prep time so here is what sylar will do, take the ring, put it in his pocket, kill Hal and understand what's making the ring choose Hal then copy it and wear the ring, yes, this is how sylar's powers work if you don't believe me watch heroes
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

You can vote now but read the arguments before you do.
DarkProdigy
1 year ago.
DarkProdigy
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

But you said classic AND current. I'm a bit confused what you mean here.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

It's a composite, so it's a mix of his classic and current minds. So, still supergenius, but somewhat egotistical. I don't think he's stupid enough that he'd underrate Odin to the point that he gets defeated, though.
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Thanks for clearing that up for me and have Dormammu and Odin fought before in this battle? If so, what was the outcome?
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

That info will be important in my argument
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

They didn't fight they made sort of a weird contest no one won, it wasn't a fight we can't use that
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Thanks for the info and considering they haven't fought yet, Dormammu WILL toy with Odin. Leading into my point where Odin would win because he would take this fight seriously and plan his big attack. While Dormammu would be playing with him because of his ego
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Also because he is way more powerfull for the reasons I listed
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

yep
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Dormammu is not that stupid. He knows who Odin is. He is aware of the immense power he holds (it's a hell of a lot less than Dormammu's, though). They may not have fought, but they have met before, when Master Order and Lord Chaos had them meet for the cosmic chess game. Dormammu, the supergenius being who has fought Eternity, is smart enough to understand that if Master Order chose Odin, then that's not someone he should fool around with.
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Name something Dormammu has done with such power
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Kill Eternity.
Seal Eternity away.
One-shot a host of the Phoenix Force.
Extinguish the flames of the Spirit of Vengeance.
Need anything else? I've got more.
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Can I please have the comic where Dormammu kills Eternity (I believe you I just want to know)
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

He doesn't kill eternity!!!!!!!!! Did you read my argument? I shown you perfectly clear why Odin is more powerfull, we know nothing about dormammu's fight with eternity except for the fact that eternity was just fine after it so no, dormammu didn't kill eternity, Odin did defeat infinity when his powers we're enhanced (yes she was a male then) so oidn is more powerfull, you are just saying that dormammu beats eternity nothing more, this is a. Not true and b. Doesn't explain how he'd beat Odin. Obviously people who voted for you didn't read my arguments cuz you have no case
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Dormammu killed Eternity in Strange Tales #146, and again with the assistance of Umar in Defenders: Indefensible. Defenders: Indefensible was after they nerfed the living hell out of Dormammu.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

We know everything about Dormammu's fight with Eternity. Dormammu sealed him away, went to fight Doctor Strange, Eternity came back, and Dormammu was able to kill him.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Ok no. In doctor strange we see what really happened in that fight, eternity destroyed him and he was already a bit weakened. You know what nevermind we'll probably never convince each other what are the facts of that fight let me quote the official handbook of the marvel universe "driven to mad fury by their grudge, dormammu, for reasons unclear, dared to challenge the almighty eternity himself. Even dormammu's power was no match for the universal embodiment, who dismissed his foe to the mysterious Realm Unknown, the very dimension where, ironically, Clea now languished" so no dormammu didn't beat eternity as stated by marvel
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Dormammu didn't kill eternity in Strange Tales #146. He simply disappeared. It was never confirmed and the only thing close to confirmation is when Doctor Strange questioned what happened and he couldn't see what happened to Eternity because it was beyond his mystic powers
DarkProdigy
1 year ago.
DarkProdigy
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Since this battle really comes down to Odin vs Dormammu, (In my head to head outcomes I stated the Superboy-Prime would be there to help out Dormammu, but Odin can exploit his weaknesses (red sun) and has powerful magic and reality warping and there's nothing Dormammu can really do to stop that)
Although Dormammu has sufficient mystical might to tamper with the enchantments of Odin, as clearly displayed when Dormammu temporarily overcame the enchantment on Mjolnir, causing Thor to revert to his Don Blake form, Dormammu could not dispell the enchantment.
Odin for the win. He is a smarter and far more able in a battle, especially considering how Dormammu has been portrayed as stupid and hot headed in the last decade or so.
Also, It depends on who launches the more powerful strike first.
Dormammu likes to tease and toy with his opponents, mainly due to his massive ego. Odin on the other hand, would not dare of messing around with Dormammu and would quickly start devising a way too defeat the dark creature.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

I agree with your 1 on 1 outcomes but that's ignoring the uru armors. The uru armors will just make my win more obvious
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Well that just proves without uru armors Odin is still victor. That way people have to argue in this one and if it turns out that someone proves me wrong they still have to go into your argument with uru. 😉
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

πŸ‘Œ :-)
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Dormammu has been more stupid with his enemies recently because Marvel hit him hard with the nerf bat. Post-Defenders Vol. 3, Dormammu jobs to everyone nearly as much as The Spectre.
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Soo basically you just supported my argument? I mean this takes place in the current times doesn't it? Dormammu has been known to toy with his opponents for a long time. (A decade as I previously stated)
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

No, I'm saying that Dormammu shouldn't normally be as weak and stupid as he's been portrayed to be. Dormammu is a supergenius, around the level of Reed Richards and Tony Stark. And the fight is a composite. Dormammu is classic and current, like Strange.
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Since when was Dormammu composite in this battle? You said that all DC Characters and Dr Strange are composite. Dormammu may be a super genius, but so is Odin.
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Also, classic and current? lol! Current Dormammu is the one that has the massive ego, and would allow Odin to be the victor
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

You also haven't responded to Amirvels rest of the argument but just focusing on the uru armor. For the record the last argument Amirvel made didn't reference the uru armor so focus on that and then you guys can talk about uru
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Exactly. Classic Dormammu was godlike, Current Dormammu jobs to everyone.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Ok now, after doom wally dss and sylar are finished, sylar (now with the powers of Hal and x-23) and wally will go help superboy prime and he won't have a chance now.
And DSS and doom will go and help Odin, Odin and doom (now the most powerfull magician on earth) can together pull a magic to banish dormammu and if that doesn't work, well, I the 3 of them will still win.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Wally and DSS vs GM Luke, DSS will he enough as he took a celestial almost alone and after that went to a celestials massacre, he can regenerate from anything and can't die even if he wants to,he has full control over the void as he is much much more powerfull than the void and we all know that the void once defeated everyone in the marvel universe except for Thor and the hulk at the same time, DSS fought Thor and easily won and was able to telelinetically hold Thor's hammer. We know normal sentry's telepathy is so good he could wipe everyone in the whole universes memory of him, willingly and consciously. Charles and Emma, the world 2 most powerfull telepaths had to work together in order to read his mind so I think it's safe to assume we have a new most powerfull telepath that can't control his powers, dss has full control over his powers and his powers are enhanced and he was able to telepathically pirlt a mind into a golem to created from rocks using his telekinesis. Gm Luke's telepathy won't do a thing against him, he canake everyone in team Luke forget they exist, control their minds, or just do it to Luke, he can easily beat him alone even Luke's telekinesis which is his greatest asset will not do to much to dss' equally powerfull telekinesis, DSS can defeat him alone
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

With the help of wally and his uru armor that will only increase his speed and amazing striking strength (said to he much stronger than Superman's punch!!!) And a few golem that dss will create. And dont forget his freaking molecular manipulation (normal sentry easily defeated molecule man, imagine what DSS can do)
DSS and wally will most definitely win
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

And even if for some reason they can't win, they will hold him enough time till doom comes to help and uses his magic to banish and prison Luke in a magical dimension that he can't escape from.
DarkProdigy
1 year ago.
DarkProdigy
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Odin* vs Luke Skywalker (lol!)
Sentry* vs Hal Jordan
Wally* vs X-23
Supergirl vs Doctor Strange*
Doctor Doom vs Dormammu*
Sylar vs Superboy-Prime* (lol!)
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Odin* vs Doctor Strange (lol!)
Sentry vs Dormammu*
Wally vs Superboy-Prime* (lol!)
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Odin* vs Dormammu and Superboy-Prime
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

sorry i couldn't help but vote this battle has so many funny moments
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

also I am aware of the terms for this fight
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Ok good, did you read what our arguments? (Mine isn't finished)
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

bout to read them now
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

πŸ‘
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Umm why superboy prime beating sylar is so funny? With the uru armor sylar can win, with the help of wally and Supergirl superboy has no chance.
Also why is dormammu vs sentry is so obvious, DSS can put a really good fight against him not to mention if he got help from Odin and doom
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

i didn't know about the uru armor when i wrote that
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Ok I'm back. So before I continue with what everyone else in my team will do let me tell you about a special ability Odin has, creating uru armor and weapons, in times of need Odin can enhance his mates powers by giving them unpenetratable and magic proof uru armors and magical uru weapons that can cuz through basically anything.
Now, while Odin fights dormammu, uru Supergirl will fight superboy prime, now she might not win but with the uru armor and weapons she can definitely harm him and hold him till she gets help.
Doctor strange is the most powerfull magician on earth, doctor doom is the second, they fought before and doctor strange always won, but it's was always a very hard battle, now that doom has his uru armor and weapon that enhance his magical abilities and make him magic proof strange has no chance (cuz doom is magic proof and now even more powerfull, what will strange do)
Sylar will take x-23 in seconds and then go to fight Hal, now I know you are over rating Hal almost as SirSpidey is over rating Thor but let's be honest, sylar has so many ways to beat hal, now with the unpenetratable uru armor he will destroy Hal. He can take the ring with telekinesis then use it against Hal, cut Hal's finger with telekinesis and then take the ring, he can even give hal a fair fight and not take his ring and still destroy him, none of Hal's attacks will harm sylar because of the unpenetratable uru armor. Sylar can telelinetically destroy Hal's internal organs, paralyze him (he did that to a guy who's power is specifically to paralyze people
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

He can also control his body, he did that to guy who's power is too specifically control people's body... With the enhancments from the ururl armor and weapon it really won't be a problem for him to do it to Hal, he can also to slice him, using his telekinesis or his sword that can cut through anything, or he can even use his destructive radiation projection... But fight will be a last resort, he'll just take the ring first. (Guys please don't vote for Hal winning just because you don't know sylar, this are all true facts and I can give more please read them and judge based on them)
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Can I say something defending the clear victor?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Sure
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Odin creating uru armor counts as taking new weapons during prep, which we said they couldn't do. And Sylar has zero chance against Hal. At his most powerful, Sylar is building level. BUILDING. Hal is a multiversal level threat, at least. He was able to hold his own and kill Krona, a guy who has stomped Galactus and held the power of all emotional embodiments, including Parallax, who went toe to toe with the Spectre, a multiversal+ level being and Ion, who should be comparable with Parallax. And that's only two of the emotional embodiments. Krona had all seven. So, we have a Galactus stomper, who is at least a universal+ level threat, who is backed by seven multiversal+ level entities. And Hal was able to hold his own, and kill him. And killing Krona was supposed to be impossible according to the Guardians. Hal's willpower overrode their programming.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

About the uru armor: no it doesn't it count as enhancing their powers, this is his part of his power it's not a weapon that they got during prep, he can also do it while he fights dormammu no problem.
About Hal vs sylar: all of this is very nice you are still not explaining how Hal would beat uru sylar
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Even if it isn't prep, uru weapons are not part of their standard gear. I'm pretty much every versus battle, the character is supposed to have standard gear. Otherwise, I could just say something like Laura is wearing the Ant-Man suit.
Hal wins by being vastly more powerful than Sylar. Again, Sylar is builidng level. Hal is multiversal+. There is no way in hell Sylar is going to defeat him.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

We never said anything about standard gear, your team can have non-standard gear as well I don't mind but only if it makes sense (like magic that creates armor and weapons if it's something common for that specific character to do, like Odin creating uru armors for his team)
The fact that Hal is over all more destructive than sylar doesn't mean he wins. And sylar is planet level btw not that it matters cuz not every battle is about over all destructive power
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

So Laura could have the Murumasa armor. And how is Sylar planet level? And Hal is also much faster than Sylar, so he can't even hit him. Sylar can't touch Hal, and Hal is massively more powerful than him. Sylar has zero chance.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

You are not explaining why he would win. Sylar doesn't need to touch him he has his telekinesis to do that for him. Laura won't have muramasa armor because she can't get that during the fight and you said that they can't get things from prep, even if she did it won't matter
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Still, he can't be touched because he's so fast, Sylar won't have time to use his TK before Hal vaporizes him. Hal flies faster than time, or very close to faster than time, based on Flash scaling.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Ok a. Please show me where it was shown that he is as fast as the flash and b. Help won't vaporize him he is protected by uru
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

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Barry cannot shake Hal, and only does when he removes his costume. And uru armor is not powerful enough to withstand Hal's attacks. Odin is multi-galactic. If the uru armor is as durable as he is powerful, Hal can easily break it.
Percival
1 year ago.
Percival
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Also @Amirvel you should argue and debate while people vote that way if people see something to change their votes.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

That's true and if you are planning on maybe changing your vote that's great but I know most people who vote now won't see what's happening next
LordTracer
1 year ago.
LordTracer
Team Battle
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Alright, I'll start my argument.
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When the fight starts, Dormammu will instantly go for Odin. He's already fought him, so he knows how powerful he is. Similarly, Odin will get Sentry to help him against Dormammu. Though Death Seed Sentry is powerful, I don't see him doing much to Dormammu, considering the guy is Eternity level. So Dormammu would stomp Sentry, and proceed to defeat Odin.
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Meanwhile, Flash would attempt to speedblitz, but would be caught by Hal, who's already caught speedsters like Barry, Zoom, and Parallax Barry in the past. Hal would then easily kill Flash. Supergirl would then probably jump in at this point, and also be stomped.
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This leaves Doctor Doom and Sylar. Sylar could easily be stomped by Luke, Doctor Strange or Superboy-Prime. And Doctor Doom, while powerful, could only take out Laura before being stomped by the rest of the team.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Ok... So here is how it'll go. Odin alone can EASILY defeat dormammu. (Please tell me in which comic they fought btw) for the following reasons. 1. We don't know a lot about dormammu's fight with eternity, there are only few things that we know about this they are a. That dormammu wasn't alone, his sister Umar who is his equal helped him. b. That at the end of the fight dormammu SAID that he won. c. That after the fight eternity was just fine. d. That after dormammu claimed that he won Umar asked if he isn't thinking that he is a bit exaggerating so... No.
Reason 2. Odin fought infinity, who is not the infinity that is the equal of eternity but infinity that is the equal of eternity WITH a fraction of Odin's soul and powers, so its more than infinity which means more than eternity which means most definitely more powerfull than dormammu.
Reason 3. Odin can easily absorb the eternal flame that was used for creating the universe, he can easily take everything dormammu has against him
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

I didn't finish wait
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Reason 4. Odin destroyed most of the universe and then recreated it, dormammu can't do anything near that.
That's just about Odin vs dormammu, they are both extremely powerfull and the battle will take long, Odin will get some more help after the rest of my team if finished with yours. I'm really sorry but I have to go we'll continue this tomorrow.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

I made a mistake when I said Odin and Dormammu fought. They had a formal game of cosmic chess, where Odin represented Master Order and Dormammu represented Lord Chaos. Dormammu had the upper hand for most of it. In the end, Odin considered Dormammu an equal, Dormammu considered Odin an inferior.
Umar is actually the inferior to Dormammu. Dormammu is above the individual members of the cosmic compass (Eternity/Infinity/Oblivion/Death) while Umar is beneath them. And Dormammu needed the help of Umar in Defenders Vol. 3 (which is when they nerfed the hell out of him, and made him job to people nearly as much as The Spectre). Before that, he defeated Eternity here:
https://m.imgur.com/4wyfEJi
https://m.imgur.com/y3gmhl3
https://m.imgur.com/3oCJ5eA
https://m.imgur.com/sOibYBD
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Do you not read the comments or do you just ignore them?
Percival
1 year ago.
Percival
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Round 1
Odin v GM Luke*
DSS v Hal Jordan*
Wally* v X-23
Supergirl v Dr. Strange*
Dr. Doom v Dormammu*
Sylar v SB Prime*
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Round 2
Wally v GM Luke, Hal Jordan, Dr. Strange, Dormammu, SB Prime*
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Can you please wait till we finished debating? Also how on Earth would gm Luke beat Odin and Hal beat sentry?
Percival
1 year ago.
Percival
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

@Amirvel don't know much about the true power of either, from what I've learned from people on this site GM Luke is more powerful than Odin and from the way you described DSS he doesn't sound that much more powerful than normal sentry.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

I'll get to him tomorrow, and btw normal sentry will destroy Hal it's a shame people don't know him enough
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Guys can you please wait with your votes till after we finish debating? Thank you
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Oh wait, we need to decide where the battle will take place, what kind of information should they be able to get in prep time and what style the battle will be like ( 1v 1 or everyone vs everyone, I prefer the latter)
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

I think it should take place in an empty, yet indestructible environment. Empty so nobody could use the environment to their advantage. During prep time, they should only be able to learn who it is they're fighting. No taking weapons that aren't standard gear or anything. And everyone versus everyone is fine.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Ok then. Who starts the debate then?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

About the area, like a plain planet?
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Yeah, like a planet that's totally empty.
LordTracer
1 year ago.
LordTracer
Team Battle
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

For battle terms, I think we should go with these:
- Composites of all DC characters (Pre-Crisis/Post-Crisis/Pre-52/New-52/Rebirth)
- Composite of Doctor Strange (Classic and Current)
- Grand Master Luke Skywalker
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These are the conditions I had in all my other battles. Also, should Sentry be allowed to become The Void?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

I think that if you have Grand Master Luke o should be able to have death seed sentry so the void isn't relevant
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

I don't see a problem with it. Though I don't know how powerful DSS is.
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

Very powerful, he is basically the sentry but amplified by apocalypse (he is sentry as a horseman so you can imagine) with the help of Thor and the wasp he was able to beat a celestial, he easily defeated Thor before that.
2+ years member.
Voted: Team Luke Skywalker

Okay. Yeah, it's fine if you have Death Seed Sentry. Should I start the arguments, or you?
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

I don't mind, but I'll have to go soon
Amirvel
1 year ago.
Amirvel
Team Battle
1+ years member.
Voted: Team Odin

@LordTracer here is our battle, we can decide battle terms when you are ready

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