Superman vs Thor

Who would win a fight?

Created by: Galactus

Character 1

Character 2

289 wins (50.7%)

Superman

Kal-El

28

Powergrid

Intelligence
100
100%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
100
100%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
85
85%

uSTATS

17
Intelligence
90
90%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
100
100%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
85
85%
Based on 340 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender male
Race Kryptonian
Height 6'3 // 191 cm
Weight 225 lb // 101 kg
281 wins (49.3%)

Thor

Thor Odinson

30

Powergrid

Intelligence
85
85%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
85
85%
15%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
100
100%

uSTATS

25
Intelligence
70
70%
Strength
95
95%
Speed
85
85%
15%
Durability
90
90%
Power
95
95%
Combat
90
90%
Based on 208 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender male
Race Asgardian
Height 6'6 // 198 cm
Weight 640 lb // 288 kg

Comments

Voted: Thor

6 / 10 victory. The god blast is in Thor's favour.
Voted: Thor

We have gone from 20 votes away to 6. Come on people
Voted: Thor

Superman is without a doubt one of the strongest ever. Thor on the other hand just has the advantage. Thor has beaten Shazam in the DC Marvel Crossover and that was when Shazam was regarded as equal or stronger than Superman. Super also has a weakness to magic, and Thor's entire attack strategy is based on his magic lightning and his magic hammer, Mjornir. Supes can speed blitz but Thor has been recorded moving at light speed. Eventually they'd reach a red sun which is also a weakness of Superman. Yes, Superman could win. There's just a better chance for Thor.
Voted: Superman

In the crossover Superman beat Thor.
Voted: Superman

Stops the Brainiac Mothership from colliding with Earth, with the help of Martian Manhunter, which was huge
Bench-pressed the Earth's weight for five days with no access to sunlight, also stated he could toss the moon out of orbit
Pushes Warworld into the Phantom Zone, right after being exposed with kryptonite
Casually carries a submarine
Carries a large spaceship into orbit while weakened
Catching an aircraft carrier with Wonder Woman
Stop the watchtower from falling back to Earth
Lifts a ship
Hits Wraith with a large ship
Voted: Thor

That crossover was not canon
Voted: Thor

Superman - 28
Thor - 30
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Thor Wins
Voted: Thor

People need to get over the popularity contest that people make this match out to be. One is a god for a reason. Thor lived in the center of the sun and fought the FROST GIANTS for 9 months straight so that virtually removes the advantages of supes heat vision and freeze breath. Thors hammer is the most devastating weapon from either dc or marvel universes. Its abilities alone outmatch supermans all together. Thor has also fought and defeated celestial beings before so superman wouldn't even be Thors toughest opponent he's ever faced. Thor has also fought the likes of silver surfer and has defeated him and he can move as fast or maybe even faster than superman so the speed difference between the two wouldn't be a huge factor. Finally and I don't think anyone has ever taken this into consideration is that Thors weather manipulation can block the sun with the clouds which is supes source of strength and I'm not even mentioning the possibility that thor gets his hands on kryptonite. Listen i love superman and his selflessness is awe inspiring but this is one match the man of steel doesn't walk away from.
Voted: Thor

Exactly. Everyone who votes for superman just wants him to win. But deep down inside, they know the truth. They just can't get over it.
Voted: Thor

thor wins
Voted: Thor

Okay that isn't really fair for you but I'm down if you're down!
Voted: Thor

@Mop
Voted: Superman

Alright why do you think Thor wins ? 😊
Voted: Thor

First off, Thor has been shown to move faster than FTL speeds. Being able to reguarly travel across the 9 realms without the bifrost in a short amount of time. Not to mention the 9 realms are totally separate universes, so that means he can move a lot faster than FTL speeds. He has godlike stamina, as he has fought an army of frost giants for 9 months without getting tired. He has thousands of year of experience, weapons training and has the ability to exploit his opponents weaknesses to his advantage. He has also headbutted the Silver Surfer which actually dented him. While Thor only had a bruise
Voted: Thor

He also has magic, one of Superman's biggest weaknesses
Voted: Superman

Well superman has survived Darkseid s omega beams , he has held together a universe , he has sneease away a solar system , he has defeated the Jla and he's defeated shazam who is similar to thor
Voted: Thor

Shazam is nowhere near on Thor's level. And also, I think fighting an army of frost giants for nine months is better than one blast of Darkseid's omega beams. Thor also has the Warrior Madness. An ability which he rarely uses but allows him to go berserk for a couple of minutes which would let him utterly destroy Thor. The god blast and the magic is enough for Superman
Voted: Thor

Also, Superman barely lived Darkseid's beams
Voted: Superman

I admit defeat so quickly lol 😂
Voted: Thor

Well it's better than not admitting to defeat and denying facts / getting angry which was common on CV. Nice debate!
Voted: Superman

Yeah yok are 😎
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Sups surviving the Omega effect twice, is quite impressive considering it can shatter Wonder Woman's bracelets with ease.
Voted: Superman

Yeah CV can be pretty toxic at times and their formatting wasn't the greatest. The site also kind of looked dull in general. I drifted away from that site years ago.
Voted: Thor

Darkseid's laser beams are not as powerful as the God Blast. So I think the god blast could kill him
Voted: Superman

Actually @Remy94 it was Grails lasers that destroyed The bracelets
And on second thought please don't call me @Mop
Voted: Thor

Haha sorry. Will try do avoid that
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I would have to say that the two attacks are about equal in destructive power, although the Omega beams are capable of more things then the God blast. Superman not surviving the god blast would be correct, due to the fact that he is not invulnerable to Magic.
Voted: Thor

Took the words right out my mouth @remy94
Voted: Superman

Thanks bro
I thought @Mop would sound cooler but then I realized it was a cleaning utensil 😂
Voted: Thor

@Swarm Comic Vine was the place I was about to get invested too but then I found this great discovery luckily lol.
Voted: Thor

@Hawkinz i got sucked into the storm!
Voted: Thor

Lol I'm glad I avoided it then, doesn't sound to appealing.
Voted: Superman

You mean the Star Storm! 😂
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

The Omega Beams have been blocked before. The Godblast has not. How are the Omega Beams as powerful as the Godblast?
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

They have many of the same feats.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Oh, like the Omega Beams being incapable of killing aliens like Superman, while the Godblast is shown being capable of defeating beings like Galactus?
Voted: Superman

@Spidey you are correct the Omega Beams are much much weaker than godblast
The Godblast has harmed galactus
(Even though this isn't canon) Darkseid has blasted galactus with the Omega Beams and they done absolutely nothing
Voted: Thor

I can only laugh on those DC fan boys who think Superman will win bcz Superman cant even beat SHAZAM...
If you find a battle btwn Shaman and Thor on this site you will get Thor as a Winner
Thor is much more powerful than Shazam he is a God...
Superman can only give him a tough fight but at last Thor Will win...
Voted: Thor

I wouldn't call them fanboys. It's their own opinion and everyone has a right to that
Voted: Thor

@InfiniteDestruction I can tell we are going to get along very well. I also read your profile, and I can near guarantee you that if that happens I will do my best to help you out. Welcome to the site 😀
Voted: Thor

Thanks man! But I wouldn't worry I've been on here before for about a week a year ago and I don't know why I just stayed other than have to deal with that crap on CV.
Voted: Thor

Sweet, it is always good to have another kind person on this site.
Voted: Superman

Bro if your friends with him that means your friends with me welcome to the cool side 😎
Voted: Thor

Thanks! Already a better community than CV
Voted: Thor

The website quality is much better to!
Voted: Thor

Hell yeah @ManofPower!
Voted: Superman

Yeyah also y'all can call me @Mop so it shortens my name
With that being said
@Infinitedestruction do you want to join the varosverse
Voted: Thor

I only joined yesterday, so unfortunately not right now. Let me settle in, make some OC's and we'll see what happens!
Voted: Superman

Take your time bro
Remember your with the cool kids 😎
Voted: Thor

Searched the website and found a New-52 Superman, soo I'm guessing this is Post-Crisis Superman? In that case, this battle is a tie
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

It's never been officially determined, but I think the most fair way is to count Superman as a mix of Pre and Post-Crisis. Oh, and by the way, this is Odin Force Thor.
Voted: Thor

Sooo god blast?
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Thor has the Godblast even without the Thor Force
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

The cannon version of Superman is Pre-flash point/Rebirth
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Prove it
Voted: Thor

Just to clear up, is this Post or Pre-Crisis Superman?
Voted: Thor

Sorry, stupid question of mine. What version of Superman is this?
Voted: Thor

That would be a question to ask anyone but me
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

This used to be Post-Flashpoint Superman, but now, since we added New 52 Superman, I'm guessing this is Pre-Flashpoint Superman
Bbq444
40 days ago
Bbq444
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Superman

What if Thor destroys the Sun where Superman could get his energy?
Voted: Thor

If Thor does that he will kill billions of people, and eventually Superman.
Voted: Thor

@SirSpidey If this battle were to actually take place, how would you truthfully see it going down? Do you think it'll last for awhile or do you believe Thor simply destroys him early? I'm genuinely curious since this seems to be the most popular battle on this site.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

It would be a complete and utter godstomp. That is if Thor wasn't holding back. If Thor were to hold back, It would take longer, but it would still be a stomp
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

No it would not be a godstomp, Thor has been overwhelmed multiple times by Beta Ray Bill, at the time Bill was no more powerful then Superman.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Beta Ray Bill is vastly more powerful than Superman. While Superman can only shake a single planet with his punches, Beta Ray Bill completely destroys them in one go. As for Thor vs Beta Ray Bill, there first encounter was not fair as Thor was still in communion with his mortal form Donald Blake, so if Thor were to be separated from Mjolnir for more than 60 seconds, he would turn into Donald Blake. Unfortunately, Thor did get separated from Mjolnir for more than 60 seconds which caused Thor to turn into Donald Blake, as previously mentioned, so Beta Ray Bill took advantage and knocked Donald Blake out. In there second encounter, Thor was without Mjolnir and Beta Ray Bill had the advantage because his body was more acclimated to the environment that they were fighting in
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

As I said at the time Beta Ray Bill was no more powerful than Superman, and I do believe it was only after Stormbreaker that Bill was capable of destroying planets.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Yeah, you might be correct
Voted: Superman

Everyone saying Thor is a god is WRONG. Thor is a DEMI-GOD (HALF HUMAN, HALF GOD) Superman is Kryptonian. 0% Human. He is a superior life-form. Superman wins. Literally in strength, speed, combat, Abilities and in everything! Superman doesn't have a weakness against lightning and thunder. So....??? SUPEY WINS
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

I don't know what Marvel comics you've been reading, but Thor is zero percent human. Thor is fifty percent Asgardian and fifty percent Elder God.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I do believe although I could be wrong, Thor is regarded as a demigod in ancient mythology.
Voted: Thor

Superman doesn't have a weakness to regular lightning, but he does have a weakness to magic. Thor's lightning IS magic. Superman is weak to it, therefore he would lose.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Superman's weakness to magic is not the only reason he would lose
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Actually it would be one few ways Thor could possibly win.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

As long as Superman has sunlight, magic isn't going to be a factor.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

There are more than only three ways Thor could win. That is an ignorant statement @remy94. In which comic does it state that Superman is immune to magic if he has the Sun?
Voted: Superman

Literally Superman. Anyone can hold Mjolnir who is true of heart and Wonder Woman was one of the heroes who actually was able to carry it and Superman too on the DC x Marvel crossover. Plus thor's Weakness is piercing weapons. Superman wins.
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Thor is not weak to piercing weapons. Wonder Woman is.
Voted: Thor

Thor wins 6.5 / 10
Voted: Superman

then y vote superman?
Voted: Thor

I change my mind on this battle all the time. I'm sure my mind will change to Thor in a couple days and i'm pretty sure I'll never have a definitive answer in a while
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

At Superman's maximum potential (sun dipped) he will defeat Thor.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

In that case, we would have to give Thor Rune King Thor as that is his maximum potential
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

That's not the same thing
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

How so?
Voted: Thor

Thor is more versatile, has more abilities, with Mjolnir attacks stronger than Superman and his energy projection is far superior to Superman, but Superman's combat speed is higher.
Thor wins 6/10 or 7/10
10+ years member.
Voted: Superman

We need someone that knows as much about Superman as @SirSpidey knows about Thor. Only then it will be a fair debate.
Voted: Superman

Honestly, lol
Voted: Thor

I think the issue is DC just constantly reboots/ recons Superman, so @SirSpidey excuses most arguments that are made. Which isn't a bad thing. However if Pre-Crisis Superman was included/ cannon I am sure people could think of a lot more arguments for Superman.
Voted: Thor

Unfortunately Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster have passed on, so I'm not sure we're going to get that.
Voted: Superman

Not an expert here, correct me if I'm wrong. But they haven't really explored Superman's feats in Rebirth and didn't in 52.
Voted: Superman

Yeah I'm not into rebirth of new 52 in my agreements i bring pre crisis supes if you go down below you'll see that's basically all I was talking about
Voted: Superman

Yeah I'm not into rebirth of new 52 in my agreements i bring pre crisis supes if you go down below you'll see that's basically all I was talking about
Voted: Superman

Yeah I'm not into rebirth of new 52 in my agreements i bring pre crisis supes if you go down below you'll see that's basically all I was talking about
Voted: Superman

Yeah I'm not into rebirth of new 52 in my agreements i bring pre crisis supes if you go down below you'll see that's basically all I was talking about
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Well in that case, expect most people to dismiss your arguments @ManofPower
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Actually Rebirth brought back pre-flash point Superman, after New 52 Superman died.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

When did New 52 Superman die?
Voted: Superman

First I have come back for one purpose and one purpose only. To prove @SirSpidey wrong that Superman is weak. I respect Thor and I give him a lot of credit, like beating Galactus. I will use canon comic book references to give you a list of feats that will prove to all of you that Superman is not as weak as @SirSpidey makes out. I will start as soon as @SirSpidey replies to me.
Voted: Superman

Don't think I have anything against @SirSpidey, he happens to be a pretty cool guy.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

It's not that Superman is weak, it's just that his strength isn't comparable to that of Thor's. Superman's greatest feat of strength is benching the weight of the mere Earth for five days straight. I have done the math and that would come out to be 2.6 octillion tons that Superman was lifting. So while you can actually calculate Superman's greatest feat of strength, there is no possible way to calculate Thor's greatest feat of strength as you would have to figure out how many planets are in the Universe and know how much they way
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

*weigh
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

@SirSpidey Im not sure,but i think Superman also lift infinity.Later i will research 😁
Voted: Superman

Ok put strength on the side for now. I will start with durability.
Superman tanks the Big Bang and destroys an object that can withstand the Big Bang. (Yield: Low Universe Level)
www.comicvine.com/superman/4005-1807/forums/pc-superman-even-can-survival-big-bang-1456568/
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004635-enduresentirecreation.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004637-enduresentirecreation2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004636-enduresentirecreation1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004634-2908743-action553_22.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004639-survivesbigbang1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004638-survivesbigbang.jpg
Voted: Superman

Superman fights Blackstarr, an extremely powerful cosmic reality warper, and tanks the force of a million galaxies. We can calculate the "force of a million galaxies" in many ways. When Blackstarr says the "force of a million galaxies", she most likely means force, in newtons, equivalent to the mass of 1 million galaxies. So we can use Work = Force x Distance to obtain a figure for the feat. (Yield: 2.0704806066321756E59 J, Galaxy Cluster Level+)
Mass of the Milky Way = 1.153359E42 kg.
Force of a galaxy = 1.153359E42 newtons
Force of a million galaxies = 1.153359E48 newtons
Distance that Superman was flung = 1.2 to 2.2 AU, as he was flung so far that he hit the asteroid belt from Earth.
http://s160.photobucket.com/user/EndlessMike9/media/Precrisis/supermansupergirlvsblackstarr5.jpg.html
http://s160.photobucket.com/user/EndlessMike9/media/Precrisis/supermansupergirlvsblackstarr6.jpg.html
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Um, those are not comic books
Voted: Superman

This right here, this is good.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

And, do you understand what canon Is? I'm not excepting any of those feats
Voted: Superman

Yes they are comic books, you just have to take some time and go through them.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

I would rather not waste my time on non-canon scans
Voted: Thor

@SirSpidey how do you know someones evidence isn't cannon?
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Because of how old they are. And the forum that @CaptainAmericaTakesAll used to get his argument from even said that it was Pre-Crisis Superman
Voted: Thor

Floyd Spideyweather vs Conor McMerica
Voted: Thor

In my opinion Thor should be a 34 and Supes should be a 20
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Superman is way closer to Thor than that.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

How?
Mattt
55 days ago
Mattt
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Superman

Superman stomps,thor sucks
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Not what the comics dictate
Voted: Superman

fanboy detected(not you sirspidey)
Voted: Superman

@SirSpidey trust me he doesn't read comics. Though you don't need to read comics to know Superman wins.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@batsheet: Lol, that is the most fanboy statement I have ever read
Voted: Superman

"I'm not a fanboy, I'm just stating the facts"
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Prove that what you say is fact
Voted: Superman

Genuine question @SirSpidey, what is Thor best feat for all stats? Intelligence, Strength, Speed, etc.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Let me do this whenever everything settles down. Also, do you want evidence?
Voted: Superman

Would be helpful, sure. I would try to do the same but I have no clue how to find sources and I'm too cheap to buy comics.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

http://readcomiconline.to
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@Darth_Doom: Well for starters, you cannot use the Avengers/Justice League crossovers as evidence because those are not canon. As for the speed of Thor, a ton of people like to reference the time Thor had trouble with Wolverine because that is one of the very few low showings of Thor. It was indeed plot induced stupidity considering the fight took place in Thor vs Wolverine and the only way to please the audience (or Wolverine fanboys) was to make Thor extremely less powerful than he usually is. Lastly, Thor on foot can go faster than light. Thor with the help of Mjolnir can go at speeds that transcend time. That is my opinion on the matter, but I can back it up with comic book evidence if need be
Voted: Thor

Ok did you look at it on the site i have you if so I give up i can't win the debate I've been doing this for some days now first with @IMABATA N 42 THEN you I just can't win it also are we cool
No hard fellings
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Yeah, I looked at it. The guy seemed very biased and only used the low showings of Thor. Yeah, we are cool
Voted: Thor

Oh and I'm not apologizing because your a moderator i put my pride aside and apologized
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Don't worry, everything is fine between us
Voted: Thor

Ok and do you play last of us my dad might play with you I don't feel like playing it right now but he might also I'm trying to get him to join superherodb he's a giant Batman fanboy
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Unfortunately I do not play The Last of Us. Is it any good? I might buy it if it is worth while
Voted: Superman

It's absolutely incredible. One of the greatest gaming experiences I've ever had, I've played the story at least 7 times and it keeps getting better. I honestly envy you since you get to experience it for the first time whenever you play it.
Voted: Thor

Yeah and I haven't played story mode yet but I've played online and I'm a blog 😀 noob and What s y'all psn mind is DubK72
Voted: Thor

SirSpidey I have a question, even though I agree Thor would win what's the big difference between canon Thor and non canon Thor?
Voted: Superman

Damn you're lucky too, I can't put into words how great 'The Last of Us', it easily is one of the best stories ever told in gaming.
Voted: Thor

I could have played it I've watched my dad play it numerous times I just don't like story mode but I m might try it and how excited are you about tlou 2 and do you know that lasts of us is one of the most popular games ever up their with a certain mari o game
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Nice! I just might consider buying it. My gamer tag is SirSpidey01
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@DarkProdigy: While canon Thor decimates beings like Galactus, the Void, a more powerful version of Odin, and even Thanos who was so amped he was equal to Death in power, non-canon Thor gets beat by mere aliens like Superman
Voted: Superman

@Darth_Doom Damn you have no idea excited I am for The Last of Us 2. Beyond excited, hell like I said I can't put it into words. I've been waiting 5 years for the sequel and yeah whenever you get the chance play the story it's a once in a lifetime experience.
Voted: Superman

@SirSpidey Alright I'll send you an invite tomorrow.
Voted: Thor

@Swarm do you have a problem with covert 3 my dad complains after complains about it what do you have to say about it
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

My favorite game is Minecraft
Voted: Thor

Oh and also can you start doing new comments i keep losing the comments you send trying to reply to them
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Yeah, it gets pretty annoying
remy94
64 days ago
remy94
Superman vs Thor
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Yes there is no need to kick I'm off the site, he just needs to rethink his approach when he comments, and start respecting other people's opinions.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

I'll start respecting others opinions whenever they start using facts
Voted: Superman

Sirspidey yeah good idea for my advice you can start not replying on the people that don't use facts about this battle but reply on the people who actually issue the comic for evidence.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

That is a great idea, but not many people actually do reference comics as evidence for their arguments
Voted: Thor

Yeah thank you and can @Galactus kick @SirSpidey off and I believe you I just don't understand this website was made for the fun of debating and learning not disrespecting people and cussing them out I mean I'm going and I've told people that @SirSpidey just doesn't care
Voted: Superman

@Darth_Doom Why would Galactus kick him off? I'm not trying to get into this but I don't believe he should be kicked off the site just for debating. I mean this site is supposed to fun not sure why you want him off.
Voted: Thor

@SirSpidy is fine he didnt cuss you out and he isnt mean he just wants you to use facts and comics as a reference
Voted: Thor

By kick him off i mean straighten him off and he was to cussing @Remy94 out and talking about a second account t is not debating it's trying to get under his skin and I already said this he has no respect he always has to be right but I don't want him off the server i just want him to stop being disrespectful to us (not me)
Voted: Thor

Yeah thank you and can @Galactus kick @SirSpidey off and I believe you I just don't understand this website was made for the fun of debating and learning not disrespecting people and cussing them out I mean I'm going and I've told people that @SirSpidey just doesn't care
Voted: Thor

Yeah thank you and can @Galactus kick @SirSpidey off and I believe you I just don't understand this website was made for the fun of debating and learning not disrespecting people and cussing them out I mean I'm going and I've told people that @SirSpidey just doesn't care
Voted: Thor

I didn't meAn SPAM that I'm sorry
Voted: Thor

Superman/Shazam First Thunder issue 3
Voted: Thor

@SirSpidey i have a question who wins between sonic or the flash
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

The Flash
Voted: Thor

My brother wants to know why flash beats sonic i say it's because flash is better in all feats but can you say why so me a nd him don't start please thnks
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

I don't know. The Flash isn't my expertise
Voted: Thor

Ok thank you
Voted: Thor

Raven as shazam And Mr myxzptlk are except for shazam more powerful than thorn in magic And what what about ra iden dark Khan black ada m Zhao Khan and so on
Voted: Thor

Raven definitely doesn't have more powerful magic. Shazam has equal magic in base but Thor's hammer definitely gives him the edge. If Mr. Mxyzptlk was actually serious in a fight with Superman, Superman would stand no chance whatsoever, Mxy could literally think him away. Do you mean the Mortal Kombat characters, dude, that was a video game. Black Adam may be slightly more powerful than Shazam, but it still doesn't matter. Keep em coming, I can do this all day.
Voted: Thor

And I know she has defeated him before but what about wonder woman magic wonder woman defeated Thor and Diana has more magic and yeah I can keep going to @IMABATMAN42
Voted: Thor

*Screaming on the inside* Why do you keep mentioning Death Battle?!? They do not use even an ounce of factual evidence, literally all they do is say things and expect you to believe them. Look at this for example https://goo.gl/images/KtLsNE if you zoom in on Goku's base speed it is actually greater than it is in SS1, proof that Death Battle did their calculations wrong. Yeah Diana has magic, not projectile magic, like Thor's but she has a magic weapon, that can, wait for it, CUT THROUGH KRYPTONIAN'S. http://imgur.com/a/xOBXe
Voted: Thor

😦🔫 i have no other people left to try and stump you i give up but wait a second this match isn't about Canon this is about overall but your opinion is yours my opinion there hahahahahahaha i enjoyed debating with you my friend 😀😃😁😃😁
Voted: Thor

Wait a second you just said something that means I win you said Diana atom sword cuts through kryptonians just like can barbarians and other beings that means superman can lobotomize Thor and win
Voted: Thor

Actually the sword didn't cut superman throat Diana's bracelet did and also I meant asgardians
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Voted: Superman

Actually there is no noncannon Superman anymore, rebirth we get to see pre-flashpoint Clark Kent return.
Voted: Thor

😤😰😣😥😣😧😱😲😵😷👻 i give up this debate is driving me nuts i can't take it no more y'all no more than I in comic books and I just give up😃😄😃😄😃😄😃😄😃😄😃😄😃😄😃😄😃😄😃😁😁😁😁
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Voted: Superman

Lol
Voted: Thor

Lmao I just can't keep debating I'm going so I don't know as much but come on I'm not stupid i know their common and uncommon known powers Thor has been seen dead by deadpool so I'm just done debating about this match
Voted: Thor

Ok you're not thinking about the time the heat vision would take to reach Thor, by then Thor would have moved, quite a bit actually. Superman will have no choice but to fight him head on, a fight that he will eventually lose. Also, when has Superman ever used this ability, other than that one movie.
Voted: Thor

I'm a couple comics actually but I don't remember the names but I remember reading them and also be has done this on doomsday and since superman has the strength advantage what if he holds Thor down to do it
Voted: Thor

On my God I just saw a comic book that ultrama n lifted the book by himself but still what about a black hole he's held one with his hands and black holes by my knowledge are infinit e density
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Voted: Thor

@IMABATMAN already proved to you that the black hole Superman was holding was just a speck of a full sized one
Voted: Thor

Superman has lifted INFINITY AND ETERNITY HE HAS DESTROYED PLANETS BEFORE AND HAS HELD A BLACK HOLE BEFORE SUPERMAN HAS SURVIVED MAGIC ATTACKS FROM BEINGS WAY MORE POWERFUL THAN THOR
Voted: Thor

First off, the black hole Superman was holding was a SPECK, a SPECK that he was struggling to hold, a SPECK that only had the gravitational pull of a small planet, at most. Oh, look, here's Thor breaking out of a gravitational pull the same as a neutron star,
http://imgur.com/PnBvsUE.
He took magical attacks from beings more powerful than Thor, when exactly? The Eternity feat wasn't Infinite weight, as when Spectre fell, I believe it was Spectre, he did not destroy the Earth. This could've happened for two reasons that I can think of, one gravity doesn't affect Eternity the same as it does other things, or two Eternity's weight isn't Infinite, either way Superman did not lift Infinite weight. With the Infinite book you could say the exact same, as it was floating in the air, so you know gravity doesn't work the same on it.
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Voted: Thor

Superman and Wonder Woman failed to stop Spectre from falling to the Earth and Superman DID NOT lift the Book of Infinite Pages. It was ULTRAMAN who lifted it
Voted: Thor

So I've been lied to cause variant comics and screwattack has said that so it was ultraman and shazam that lifted the book of infinite pages
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Voted: Thor

No. The first attempt was indeed by Superman and Shazam who couldn't even budge the book. Fanboys just like to twist what the comic conveys to fit their fanboyistic desires. That is the only reason you hear people say Superman lifted an infinite amount of weight. However, the second attempt was by Ultraman who managed to actually carry the book to the Ultima Thule, a task Superman and Shazam were physically incapable of doing
Voted: Thor

K thought you guys were done but remember Imabatman superman can focus on the flash moving faster than light speed Thor normally can not to faster than light on earth
Voted: Thor

Superman has never hit the Flash with his heat vision, it's just not fast enough. And everyone keeps saying that Superman can dodge Thor's Godblast, but Thor can do the same to Superman's heat vision, as they are both a one direction beam. Superman also doesn't go faster than light on the Earth, as it would destroy it.
Voted: Thor

But he has and God blast against superman mega heat vision who's power is better also what about lobotomy wouldn't that harm the God of thunder
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Voted: Thor

Of course that wouldn't harm Thor. Anyone with basic knowledge on Thor would know this
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Voted: Superman

Anyone with actual knowledge of these characters, would know that attack would severely harm Thor.
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Voted: Thor

Prove it
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Voted: Superman

Okay, what comic is Thor able to heal any part of his brain?
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Voted: Thor

Thor has never needed to. Nothing has proven to be able to even harm his brain physically
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Voted: Superman

Until now
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Voted: Thor

Prove it
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Voted: Superman

Prove me wrong
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Voted: Thor

I asked you first
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Voted: Superman

Superman can use this attack, now you need prove that it won't work on Thor
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Voted: Thor

Okay, let me repeat myself, a theme that is very common with you @remy94, nothing has proven to be able to even harm Thor's brain physically. So try again
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Voted: Superman

And I said until now, @SirSpidey because there is no reason this attack isn't going to harm Thor
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Voted: Thor

Shall I repeat myself again? Unless Superman is more powerful than three Celestials combined, Superman's cute little lasers ain't gonna do shit to Thor. Lol, "there is no reason this attack wouldn't hurt Thor." Whatever kid
Voted: Thor

Remy Sirspidey shut up theirs no reason to arguing on here like this there kids on this site
Sirspider superman lasers do pierce beings like Thor and Thor is not as powerful as 3 celestial and stop being jerks to each other
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Voted: Thor

Prove it
Voted: Thor

@SirSpidey just stop your going to get yourselves kicked off the server just stop
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Voted: Thor

Why and how?
Voted: Thor

Imabatman not Jonathan
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Voted: Superman

This battle could very well be over before it began, Superman could just lobotomize Thor just by looking at him. "Heat vision focused through your pupil like a scalpel, instant lobotomy" -Superman
Voted: Thor

And I forgot about that Remy message Imabatman this he will go hysterical 😀
Voted: Thor

Heat vision has never been shown to work on anyone with high durability, comparable to Superman, to my knowledge.
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Voted: Superman

It doesn't really matter if the characters have high durability, Sups can still focus his heat vision through their pupils.
Voted: Thor

Your basically forgetting that they'll both be zipping around the battle field, and Superman won't have time to focus his heat vision, if he's constantly getting pounded into the ground by Thor, at Mach speeds.
Stas
65 days ago
Stas
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Superman

You're kinda selling Superman short here. The guy has dealt with characters who are Massively FTL+ in speed.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

The fact that Superman is many times faster than Thor, means he won't be the one getting pounded into the ground.
Voted: Thor

I can agree I'm selling him a bit short, but what I meant is that Superman won't be able to concentrate with Thor fighting him, on near equal terms at very fast speeds. Labotomy would not work. So he would have to resort to a physical battle, one that, in time, he would lose thanks to his disadvantage, he is "weak" to magic.
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Voted: Superman

I'm pretty sure during some point in the battle these two characters are going to make eye contact. Plus as long as Superman has sunlight, magic isn't going to effect him.
Voted: Thor

Actually magic does effect superman in day just not as much
Voted: Thor

Actually magic does effect superman in day just not as much
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Voted: Superman

In the New 52 Shazam's magic had absolutely no effect on Superman, but even if Thor was able to harm Sups, he'll just heal instantly.
Voted: Thor

Dude, you're wanking Superman to oblivion, I mean the dude struggled to destroy the shadow moon, which is only a star level feat. Besides, and this is a major plot hole, Thor could just destroy the sun. Speaking of that, why have none of Superman's villains destroyed the sun, just to get rid of Superman?
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Voted: Superman

Superman has a lot greater feats than destroying a moon, Clark has destroyed entire dimensions, and has held a black hole in his hands. Even if Thor was capable of destroying the sun (Which he wouldn't because that would be the end of earth) Sups could very well instantly fly to the first star he sees.
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Voted: Thor

@IMABATMAN42 Are you seriously using Superman's Shadow Moon feat as his greatest feat? You're only trying to lowball Superman so you can suck off Goku.
But I still think Thor's more powerful, far stronger and almost as fast, Thor supported infinite weight, Superman has only done that due to misinterpretation of books, the infinite pages are not infinite because they take up a space, Eternity is a measure of time, no weight.
Voted: Thor

Yeah, I know Shadow Moon isn't his best feat, it's actually one of his worst, and that's why I bring it up in my arguments, as the force of him doing that, KNOCKED HIM OUT. And he struggled, struggled, to do that, a star level feat, he struggled to accomplish a star level feat. While Thor is easily Solar System+, and Goku is easily universal+.
Voted: Thor

Tell me what rest has Thor lifted infinity and also superman has supported infinity an eternity superman beats hulk Thor goku saitama and avenger why would Thor be stronger than superman and he is no we're close superman has faced to a distant star and back i n about 10 b notes Thor has not Thor relies on teleportation so MMH can beat Thor keep it coming I can do this all day
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Voted: Thor

Unless Superman is more powerful than three Celestials combined, Superman's cute little lazers ain't going to do shit to Thor. Also, @remy94, when did Superman destroy a dimension?
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Voted: Superman

Actually I think it was time and space that Superman shattered, during the Infinity Crisis
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Voted: Thor

Which issue?
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Voted: Superman

Not entirely sure, haven't read it in a while.
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Voted: Thor

Oh, so you are just assuming. Thanks for proving your argument is solely your own opinion
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Voted: Superman

I'm not assuming anything it did happen I'm just not entirely sure what comic it's in in.
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Voted: Thor

"Not entirely sure, haven't read it in a while."
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Voted: Superman

how does that mean I'm assuming everything?
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Voted: Thor

You can't even provide for me the comic from where you got your argument. Therefore, how are you not assuming?
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Voted: Superman

Do I need to repeat it again Infinity Crisis!
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Voted: Thor

Do I need to repeat myself again!? Which issue?
Voted: Thor

Ok I guess Jonathan is offline so I'll debate with y'all and Remy superman won't lose to God blast because juggernaut just shook God blast off and superman durability is better than juggernauts and stas Thor has more experience superman has like 20 years while Thor ha s thousands of years thank you very much 😉
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Voted: Thor

Unless Superman is more durable than Galactus, Superman has zero chance of surviving the God Blast. Also, the only reason Juggernaut survived the God Blast was because he had a mystical barrier protecting him. Lastly, what is your evidence to suggest that Superman has more durability than Juggernaut?
Voted: Thor

He has survived darkseid lasers which surpass God blast by alot
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Voted: Thor

Prove it
Voted: Thor

For one darkseid lasers can erase God's can kill people instantaneously and also the only people to survive the omega be ams are superman and doomsday the only reason doomsday survived is because of his immortality darkseid has even blasted galactus so just stop prove it your really annoying me with you and @remy 94 fighting its just annoying so just stop alright this is meant for fun ok
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Voted: Thor

While Darkseid's Omega Beams can be resisted by Superman, Doomsday, and immortals, the God Blast has only been resisted by one being, the Celestial named Exitar The Executioner. The God Blast also obliterates immortals, unlike the puny Omega Beams
Voted: Thor

Actually the omega beams do kill immortals i said doomsday because you know him he survived from nothing and also doomsday beats Thor darkseid beams has killed immortals before and hurt beings like that celestial like Galactus who easily is more powerful than a celestial Thor in the Thor vs darkseid battle his own brother the Highfather i think his name is his fellow old gods and he's laser beams shattered lantern barrier like it was nothing is laser beams are also faster than Thor s God blast they can hit the flash of it was little faster and also darkseid has shot anti monitor with the beams and severely hurt him even though he got killed omega force is better than Odin force
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Lol, your logic is painful to deal with. I honestly don't even want to try and rebuke everything you said. It would be too much of a hassle considering how much of it is incredibly wrong
Stas
66 days ago
Stas
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Superman

Well after seeing Superman tank one of Shazam's lightning bolts with little to no real pain, I'd wager Superman most likely has this one. Both are Solar-System level fighters, but Superman has edge in intelligence and experience, and his power kit is much more flexible than Thor. Thor's God Blast is potentially Multi-Solar System in power, but I won't count it since there is barely much info on its actual power.
Stas
66 days ago
Stas
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Superman

Not to mention the God Blast does leave Thor open for quite some time, and Superman can most definitely react to the God Blast in time.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Barely much information on the God Blast!? We have enough information to know that it easily destroys beings like Galactus, a more powerful version of Odin, Surtur, and hurts Celestials like Exitar The Executioner. If instant teleporters can't react to the God Blast, Superman of course can't
Voted: Thor

Ok thank you and go to the flash vs sonic page i have some more debating to do haha😁😁😁😁😁
Voted: Thor

Remy94 i forget you actually right but imabatman shazam has very powerful magic that's where his power comes from not form his physical power he has the magic of the gods i forg ot so I do not submit haha haha I still can win the debate 😉
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

As I've said before, the only way Thor wins this fight is by using the god blast, and that's only if he manages to hit Superman.
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Voted: Thor

Thanks for confirming my suspicion that you and Spectre94 are one in the same person. Well done 👏👏👏
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Voted: Superman

We are not I probably just remember reading his comment, and thought I was the one who said it, I do agree with his comments though.
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Voted: Thor

Yeah, okay. Whatever you say you fraud
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Voted: Superman

Well think whatever you want, spectre94 was my brother
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Voted: Thor

Whatever you say fraud
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Voted: Superman

I don't mind if you disrespect me, because you do it all the time. But if you are going to disrespect my brother then you and I are going to have problems.
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Voted: Thor

You mean your second account, right?
Voted: Thor

@SirSpidey Not saying remy94 is spectre94, (I don't wanna get involved) but is there really anything wrong with having a 2nd account? It's only a problem if they start using it to their advantage
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Voted: Thor

Well, you get more votes, you can team up on people, and not to mention it is morally questionable especially when you claim it isn't your 2nd account
Voted: Thor

I agree on that last part but it really doesn't bother me if he uses two accounts on big battles like this because it doesn't really make a difference, but if he started double voting on smaller battles or he has more than 2 accounts then I have a problem.
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Voted: Superman

It's disrespectful
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Voted: Thor

Disrespectful my ass. You just can't take criticism to save your life
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

If you think he's not my brother then go right ahead and think that, it doesn't really matter to me either way.
Voted: Thor

Yo @remy94 i know @Sirspidey is disrespecting your brother and all but before that what s your best with him maybe I can talk to him because he is really starting to annoy me
Voted: Thor

Yo @remy94 i know @Sirspidey is disrespecting your brother and all but before that what s your best with him maybe I can talk to him because he is really starting to annoy me
Voted: Thor

Yo @remy94 i know @Sirspidey is disrespecting your brother and all but before that what s your best with him maybe I can talk to him because he is really starting to annoy me
Voted: Thor

Yo @remy94 i know @Sirspidey is disrespecting your brother and all but before that what s your best with him maybe I can talk to him because he is really starting to annoy me
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

@Darth_Doom I wouldn't bother, I've been debating with this guy for quite some time, he has very little respect, it will just end up coming back at you.
Voted: Thor

Alright I'm was only going to do that because I like the way you debate @SirSpidey is just one of those guys who think people don't know nothing maybe we can try talking to @Galactus try to get him to shut @SirSpidey up because I'm sick of him and I've seen the comments he's wrote to you he s just a spoiled brat
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Well thanks for your support, I think once @Galactus starts to see that everyone is having a problem with him, he'll probably do something about it.
Voted: Thor

@Darth_Doom thank you, I was waiting for someone to say that.
Voted: Thor

@Darth_Doom I dont know if spoiled is the word I would use to describe him, but he definitely has questionable social skills too.
Voted: Thor

Thank you I just got sick of him he is so disrespectful to people and someone has to put a stop to him I'm just sick of it so what if @remy94 has a second account it's not going to hur t nobody can you tell me how to talk to galactus please
Voted: Thor

Exactly.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Forum, General conversation or you'll have to wait until he gets on, and then private message him. It was my brothers account, but even if it was me, which it wasn't, I'm obviously not using it to get ahead on anything.
Voted: Thor

Yeah thank you and can @Galactus kick @SirSpidey off and I believe you I just don't understand this website was made for the fun of debating and learning not disrespecting people and cussing them out I mean I'm going and I've told people that @SirSpidey just doesn't care
Voted: Thor

disrespectfull my ass 😁 hahaha
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@jongensoden: I thought it was funny too. It is a shame most of these people take this site way too seriously
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@remy94: If it didn't really matter to you, you wouldn't be responding to my comments. The only reason it always comes back at you is because I am always in the right. If I wasn't always correct, there would be nothing to come back at you, but no, you always refuse to be wrong. It is one of your greatest downfalls. The only reason everyone has a problem with me is because I don't sugarcoat shit. So what if I cuss, it's not like it is wrong. It would only be wrong if I were to curse at people, something I try very hard not to do. Your not using your second account to get ahead on anything!? Are you serious? In the past, you have ganged up on me with your second account. So don't lie to us and say you haven't done anything wrong. Lastly, please explain to me how me accusing you of having a second account equates to me disrespecting you. It honestly makes zero sense to me
Voted: Thor

@SirSpidey i would like to apologize me and @remy94 said stuff no better than you we disrespecting you as well trying to get you kicked off the server i am sorry
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@Darth_Doom: Really? You have been here for 13 days and already trying to kick someone off? I'm going to take it easy on you considering you are only 13, but you seriously need to watch yourself. Not only am I moderator, but I have been doing this same exact thing for 2 years and as of yet have had zero problems with @Galactus. The opinion of a little kid like you is not anywhere close to that of the creator of this entire website
Voted: Superman

Sirspidey have you ever had a problem in your life that was conflicting you while you was off this site and facing this problem in the real world?
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@Darth_Doom: Apology accepted. I am sorry if I angered you in any way. It is just not my cup of tea to sugarcoat things
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@Bbq444: No. Why?
Voted: Thor

Ok and I'm not really thirteen I'm 19 i just tell people that so they don't mess with me and no you didn't anger me I just didn't like you and remy94 fighting it was pretty annoying and also I wasn't really trying to get you kicked off the server i was trying to get you to be quiet but are we cool because I definitely don't want to get kicked off the server but truce
P.s do you want to debate some more I've done more research on the characters
Voted: Superman

Sometimes I meet with these people whether they have a reason why they have a conflict, I have a conflict for myself today everytime I go to school I would always have something that would be bothering me like people trying to stare at me while my head is down like I always do since I have autism-Aspergers and other times that happen to me is when there's a lot of noise everytime I go to a classroom and they would never be quiet it happens everyday to me and so sometimes I like to be mean to people that's why.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@Darth_Doom: What kind of research have you been doing? Comic book research or internet research?
Voted: Thor

Internet but I'm not going to give you bull this time I'll make sure on the view comics website I'll try to be as accurate as possible
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@Bbq444: Hey man, you be you no matter what people may think. Yes, people are extremely annoying and even clueless at times, but they are still human. No one is perfect and we all make mistakes, but we as a human race need to try our hardest to love each other. As Jesus once said, "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." I think this verse from the Bible perfectly applies to your current situation. So that is my advise. Now it is up to you what you do with it
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@SirSpidey, Very well said man I may not be religious but that was a nice quote.
Voted: Thor

@SirSpidey That is probably the most bad ass thing I have ever seen you type on this site. I have a close friend with similar obstacles as @Bbq444 and he struggles with similar things. I am going to share your comment with my friend, because I think it sends a very powerful message.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@Darth_Doom: Alright, lets hear it
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Voted: Thor

@TheCarnage and @SidebarTwist: Thank you. I thought it was the appropriate thing to say. We all could benefit from what I said.......even me, lol
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@SirSpidey Again very well said we all have our faults and can learn to become better as individuals each day.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Agreed
Voted: Thor

Alright this is my last time trying i know this is probably bull but I'm going to try it anyway it said superman has pushed Thor s hammer back with Thor pushing on it and it said Thor with out the hammer is slower than wolverine with is little F TL and I'll send you the site i saw I t on https://www.quora.com/Who-would-win-in-a-fight-between-Thor-and-Superman
If you find a way to debunk that I have no way of getting around I'll just simply change my vote i should give up
Voted: Thor

Yeah but he took Trigon punches which like you said is multi galactic levels so Thor once again magic should not hurt superman as much as you think actually after you messAge I'll go see about thor s magic so I understand better cause I like Thor but I don't actually know a lot about him so I'll research him a bit more and also my fave hero is the flash also how wins flash of sonic the hedge hog
Voted: Thor

Was this in the movie? Because if so it's not canon, but I'll attempt to debunk it anyway. So, Trigon's power could reach multi-galactic scales, yes, but his physical strength, while being impressive, isn't comparable to blows from Thor's hammer, which has caused beings like The Hulk, who have comparable durability to Superman, under normal circumstances, that is, because of Superman's "weakness" to magic he is more susceptible to Thor, than say someone of equal durability, such as The Hulk.
Voted: Thor

Ok I done some more research it said that most of Thor magic comes from the belt and goe s to the hammer his other magic he has very hard time using it but I don't know how cause that research was of a post almost 8 years so I submit Thor can beat superman i can't get around any other corner apparently you t more into heroes than I am and that is way something because I watch imaginary axis variant comics and tons other comics stuff but you have to be right cause you actually have a reasonable point and I'm surprised normally I'm a very stubborn person but you are right my friend also is the r a way I can message you privately on this site
Voted: Thor

Superman would have a very good chance of winning, if magic hadn't been one of his "weaknesses", because they are near physical equals. Oh and yes you can message me, just go to my account, click on messages and type something. Note: I don't really check my messages that often, but I'll try and look at them more. 👍
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

How does Superman even have somewhat of a chance against Thor?
Voted: Thor

He doesn't, but if magic hadn't been one of Superman's weaknesses, well, there's a possibility, I'd actually say without the magic weakness it would go 50/50.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

How though? Thor is factually a smarter fighter, stronger, faster, vastly more durable, etc. Prove to me Superman would win even if Thor didn't have magic
Voted: Thor

He actually has have you watched justice league vs teen titans i mean superman didn't actually hurt Trigon but still Trigon dark magic is more powerful than thors and also darkseid actually does possess some magic it's just not well known and cosmic is another form of somewhat magiclike even though it isn't a weakness to superman
Voted: Thor

I haven't actually watched it yet, but either way Superman still gets completely stomped, because Trigon is like, multi-galaxy level, possibly higher.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Superman has taken the magical lighting blast from a very ticked off Shazam, and survived with no
Physical damage at all.
Voted: Thor

Shazam, while being very powerful, is more of a physical based character, and isn't much of a "powerhouse", that is to say his magical prowess isn't very impressive.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Shazam's magical abilities all come from gods that are very comparable to Thor, Zeus for example. Plus Thor's magic are mostly for physical enhancement, he's not a spellcaster.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@remy94: In which comic does Superman fight Shazam?
Voted: Thor

I'm sorry I meant Trigon not groton
Voted: Thor

I'm sorry I meant Trigon not groton
Voted: Thor

He has never faced anyone with magic as powerful as Thor's, to my knowledge. To debunk some of your statements, Darkseid no magic, and he still loses to him, Green Lantern no magic, Imperiex no magic, grant it, I don't know much about this character, and current Superman has never faced Anti-Monitor, but Anti-Monitor has no Magic either. Also to give you perspective on how powerful Thor's magic can be, taking a feat from @SirSpidey with this one, he has damaged Galactus before, who is easily galaxy level+. He has also knocked out the Hulk, who has comparable durability to Superman. Oh and thank you, I'm enjoying this too.
Voted: Thor

Whoops meant to make that a reply, but it doesn't really matter.
Voted: Thor

Ok I give you that but I don't know cause I don't read that many comics but doesn't Groton posses some sort of magic i mean he is a demon and what about shazam magic isn't that as powerful as Thor i know Thor wears his belt of magic but still superman can resist his magic some and I'll ask you this time king Thor or superman prime 1000000 and I don't know if you can but let me know what matches you vote on so I can debate you some more haha haha lol😁😆😆
Voted: Thor

As far as I know Superman has never fought Trigon, but I'm pretty sure he is a team threat, possibly higher. Lol, I will 😂
Voted: Thor

I meant mongul
Voted: Thor

But still superman has face foes with magic of cosmic power he's faced darkseid shazam green lantern monthly imperiex antimonitor etc Thor magic is powerful i give you that but superman has some resistance to magic and keep coming i like debating with you my friend but tell me just how powerful th ors magic will be against superman please do
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

In which comics does Superman fight and defeat these characters?
Voted: Thor

Image than what do you mean death battle is not a reliable source and also I done research i was just doing a reference superman is stronger faster more durable and is way more power ful cause actually I like Thor better than superman it's just superman is more powe rful so if you want a debate I'll give you a debate also Thor is ma ybe 30% less popular than superman so tell how does Thor win superman strength is powerful enough to shatter planets punch through space and time so he should be able to wield the hammer or stormbreaker still this isn't about who is more popular it's about who is more powerful so I done research and superman has what it takes to take on Thor the god of thunder so debate if you wantonly just keep coming back at y'all there you go imabatman42
Voted: Thor

I mean that, at the time, Wonder Woman was more popular because of her movie, so to not disappoint their many subscribers, they highballed Wonder Woman to make her win. Strength, speed, power, doesn't matter either way, Superman is weak to magic, Thor uses magic, very powerful magic, at that.
Voted: Thor

On people listen this match is putting a God of lightning against an nearly immortal powerful alien superman wins because superman brute strength dims those by a lot i mean Thor couldn't even beat wonder woman on death battle so how in the world is he suppose to beat superman a guy who can beat darkened single handed Thor can't even stand up against thano s so that's my opinion but Thor possibly could do a little bit of damage with his magic but still Superman>Silver surfer>wonder woman>thor>Martian manhunt it's simple so all those people do your research because I have its time for a good battle 😁
Voted: Thor

Death Battle is not a reliable source of information, considering they lowball the character that is less popular and highball the one that is popular. Silver Surfer = Thor > Martian Manhunter > Wonder Woman = Superman, there is only a slight difference in power between all of them, being that they are all about mid/high herald tier.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

How is the Silver Surfer the equal to Thor? The closest thing Silver Surfer got to beating Thor was a stalemate. Thor on the other hand has beaten the Silver Surfer two or three times in the past
Voted: Thor

Thor has the Odin Force in his rune king form...he's omnipresent, destruction level is multi-universe scale and has rune magic (reality warping, dimension and energy manipulation etc) among many others ...the only one above him in RK form is the living tribunal....and as for any version of Superman, take away the yellow sun and power slowly starts fading away.... and if kept away from the sun for a considerable amount of time, he becomes like a normal kryptonian on krypton.....plus oh yeah, Kryptonite =P
Voted: Thor

Most of the stuff you just said were wrong.
Voted: Thor

This isn't RK Thor he has his own character
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

What he said isn't wrong, it just doesn't apply to this battle. However, the last part of his comment does apply to this battle
Heep
74 days ago
Heep
Superman vs Thor
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

@cw6334 Well... you should have learn this at school.
How old are you ?
Voted: Superman

@Heep I'm just trolling dude because all teachers always say it isn't a good source lol
Heep
74 days ago
Heep
Superman vs Thor
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Voted Sperman because hes faster.
Thor is too much muscles that slow him in a fight.
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Could you a little more in depth? Don't really understand your argument.
Heep
74 days ago
Heep
Superman vs Thor
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

@theCarnage
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy
Voted: Superman

Um WIkipedia ain't a valid source
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

I wanted you to go more in depth about why you have Superman because he's fast and saying Thor is "slow", I wanted to hear your reasoning and I'm not saying you're wrong it's opinionated, I'm just curious.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

You aren't going to receive any evidence from someone who votes solely based on who has the better profile picture
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

I love this battle, hard to choose
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Ehh, not really
Voted: Superman

Thor's lightning is not a weakness to superman . Even though Thor is God superman can still beat him, he has beaten god's before
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

In which comic?
Voted: Superman

Superman - Wonder Woman #2, Superman beat Apollo. Not sure if its canon but I'm sure you do.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Hmm, interesting. It is canon, but Apollo isn´t comparable to Thor
Voted: Superman

Guys, SUPERMAN DOESN'T HAVE A WEAKNESS AGAINST LIGHTNING. Thor isn't a god, he is a DEMI-GOD. Superman wins this fight easily.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

He does whenever it is magical lightning like Thor´s. Also, how in the hell is Thor a demi-god?
Voted: Thor

No Thor is for sure a God not a Demi-God Hercules is Demi-God
Voted: Thor

thor ain't a demi-god dude...he's a pure bred asgardian.... hercules is the one you're looking for, he's a demi-god.
Voted: Thor

and thor can survie fight
Voted: Thor

Thor is a god
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Well said
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

I'm surprised that the votes are getting closer and closer. I'm glad to see that people are coming to their senses
Voted: Superman

Your going to have to wait a long time for Thor to be on the green line. Superman is way more popular than Thor that's why.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

If it is going at the rate it is going at right now, I wouldn't have to wait too long
Voted: Superman

Superman has taken beating from magic users and still ends up beating the snot out of them, he's beaten people who've used kryptonite and red sun radiation which are bigger weaknesses than magic. The MCU has given Thor a lot of momentum recently so I get the hype and he's a great character, but if you think Thor's magic gives him advantage then you're dead wrong I'm sorry. I also saw someone say Thor has faster reflexes, I thought that was hilarious, he tagged quicksilver, so what? Superman has tagged the flash on multiple occasions and flash is significally faster than quicksilver.
Voted: Thor

what you superman voters are forgettin is thate superman is weak to magic wich thor can use therfor thor has the combat skill and one of supermans weaknesses
Voted: Superman

Thor allowed him to lift the hammer but certainly Odin considers Superman worthy to use the hammer as has been seen in other circumstances anyhow. Superman only just barely beat Thor. It was a close fight and both admitted it could have gone either way. I see this as a VERY VERY close battle but imo Supes takes it
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

That comic is not canon
Voted: Superman

They already fought, and the outcome is obvious. Superman tossed the goddess of thundering farts off his high horse and served him some humble pie.
Voted: Thor

@CaptainAmericaTakesAll Where's your evidence for that? And don't even think about using that non-canon s**t as evidence! It may be canon in the DC verse, but it sure as hell isn't in the Marvel verse.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

He has zero evidence to suggest Superman wins except a non-canon comic book. I bet he doesn't even know in which comic Thor and Superman fought
Voted: Superman

I am going to explode if someone doesn't tell me the "facts" @SirSpidey says their are, because in my opinion there are no "facts".
Voted: Thor

@CaptainAmericaTakesAll Okay, Thor:
Lifted the Midgard Serpent.
Tagged Quicksilver.
KO'd the Phoenix Force.
Shattered planets.
Survived a planet busting bomb.
Endured 17 days of torture.
Destroyed a helicopter while depowered.
Defeated Juggernaut, Silver Surfer, Iron Man, & Hulk.
Escaped a Black Hole.
And btw, it's "says THERE are". Are you gonna explode or what?
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@CaptainAmericaTakesAll: Just read almost every comment I have posted if you want evidence
Voted: Thor

I've noticed that most of the comments are supporting Thor, and not a lot are supporting Superman and this leads me to believe the fact the people that voted Superman are fanboys with 1-3 people with knowledge and proof that Superman would win.
Voted: Superman

I honestly take this as an insult because me and @Durge1 have been defending Superman in this battle for a long time.
Voted: Superman

@CaptainAmericaTakesAll Tbh I have tons of respect for you and @Durge1 for defending your choice in this fight, but still @DarkProdigy has a point, there are few comic fans that know what they're talking about like you sticking up for Superman and lots for Thor
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@CaptainAmericaTakesAll: Lol, you call referencing a non-canon comic book over and over again "defending Superman"? PATHETIC. If you would actually have a debate with me, maybe we could settle some things. Instead of saying the same thing over and over again
Voted: Superman

I'm surprised so many people voted for thor, I thought it'd be obvious, superman is a decent bit stronger, a decent bit more durable, has many different abilities, and is... better at flying? Idk, thor often needs his hammer to fly, superman can fly on his own. I'm talking about at their normal strength levels by the way.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

The facts say differently
Voted: Thor

Thor is a better fighter and his hammer is much stronger than superman punch can ever be. Thor's lightning is also much stronger than Superman's laser beams. Plus, Thor has taken hits from people much stronger than him, he can take a beating!
Voted: Thor

Thor has better combat.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Yes he does
Voted: Thor

I always assume that Thor and Superman are about physical equals, but the reason Thor would win is because he can use magic, and has more power output.
Voted: Thor

thor also has faster reflexes
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Thor is vastly physically superior to Superman
Voted: Superman

Oh, vastly superior. You might want to check into an Asylum soon.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Keep denying the facts
Voted: Thor

@CaptainAmericaTakesAll Insults ain't gonna help ya, kid
Voted: Superman

I don't see your point. They fought. Thor lost. Take your crying elsewhere.
Voted: Thor

thor can heal from everything superman does
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

They can both heal from each others attacks.
Voted: Superman

"His dense molecular structure will make virtually impenetrable, goodbye my little Kal." Gur El
Voted: Thor

round 1 is without using powers thir wins he is a better fighter
jongensoden
90 days ago
jongensoden