Superman vs Thor

Who would win a fight?

Character 1

Character 2

136 wins (56%)

Superman

Clark Kent

25

Powergrid

Intelligence
95
95%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
100
100%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
85
85%

uSTATS

17
Intelligence
90
90%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
100
100%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
85
85%
Based on 257 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender male
Race Kryptonian
Height 6'3 // 191 cm
Weight 225 lb // 101 kg
107 wins (44%)

Thor

Thor Odinson

30

Powergrid

Intelligence
70
70%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
85
85%
15%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
100
100%

uSTATS

26
Intelligence
70
70%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
90
90%
10%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
95
95%
Based on 127 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender male
Race Asgardian
Height 6'6 // 198 cm
Weight 640 lb // 288 kg

Comments

God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 1 days ago
I think in general his Intelligence and expirience is underrated, it should be a high score but not highest.
The highest scores are used to often and should be limited to less characters in my mind.
Writers often writs Thor looking a bit stupid using only brute strength not even his Versatility as a warrior God !
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God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 1 days ago
The God of Thunder is of course a warrior God first of all. The very purpose of his existence is to be his pantheons greatest warrior.
The protector of nine realms inclueding Midgard earth.
He is raised to become a king one day, to rule the plane etarnal. He knows a lot about magic and the nine realms. The very nature of Asgard and his existence is magical. A simple short explanation of his character is a magical warrior God !
Skilled in warfare tactics and also got expirience from several thousend years.
About more science based nature of knowledge i think the writing is more inconcistant. The God have used the knowledge of Blake even years after this  conection was ended. I would say that his knowledge about science is fair but not impressive.
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remy94
remy94 2 days ago
Good @Overlord when he strikes his cane upon the floor Donald Blake becomes the god of thunder a warrior god with vast knowledge of combat and the nine realms. When in he is in is mortal form of Donald Blake (witch is no longer cannon) he has vast knowledge of medicine and science. Thor dose not retain Blakes intellect nor dose Donald retain Thors knowledge.
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TheOverlord
TheOverlord 2 days ago
@SirSpidey in that issue Donald Blake becomes Thor because his walking stick is linked with mjolnir. Only because of that walking stick are they linked. Once they become unbound Thor retains his standard intelligence and does not keep Donald's intelligence because Donald is becoming Thor and Thor is becoming Donald. When Thor becomes Donald he gains Donalds knowledge while he is in that form, and when Donald becomes Thor he has Thor's knowledge and powers. When they are separate they only know what they know as themselves. That is true through the entire series as Loki outsmarts Thor while he is Thor but when Donald becomes Thor then he outsmarts Loki. (Issue 85)
Spectre94
Spectre94 2 days ago
@Galactus could you please give Thor 110 in intelligence for these Thor fanboys 😂😂😂
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 2 days ago
@Spectre: Please tell me why Thor shouldnt have a 110 in intellect
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remy94
remy94 2 days ago
@SirSpidey I've asked you several times to give me a reference to Thor having the intellect of Daniel Blake, that is up to date, but so far you have given me nothing. Thor is a magical based character but not the embodiment of magic, all of his magical capabilities come from objects (Mjolnir, the belt of strength) I do agree that Thor is vastly intelligent but with his mental instability means his intelligence is going to be lower about 70%. Warriors madness is also one of Thor's main abilities why are you trying to take that away?
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 2 days ago
@remy94: Here is your reference, which I have already given to you, Journey Into Mystery #83 through present day. Your right, hes not the embodiment of magic, I said hes "PRACTICALLY AN embodiment of magic". That doesnt mean he is. But every ability and every weapon he posseses is magic in nature, just like his godly energies. Even Asgard is magical in nature. But of course you wouldnt know this due to a lack of knowledge on Thor. And if ALL of Thors magical capabilities come from his weapons and equipment, then how did he create a blast with his bare hands more powerful than the likes of Mjolnir? Lol, your saying that Thor has mental instabilities? Yes, there is a VERSION of Thor where he goes practically insane and unleashes his true power, but that is not the same version of sane Thor. Im not trying to take away an ability from Thor, Im just saying Warriors Madness Thor is a completely different version of Thor. Thats why they made a name for when Thor goes into that state
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 2 days ago
Also, if you are wanting to debate the intellect of Warriors Madness Thor you should create a forum for that debate but for right now we are talking about regular, sane Thor. I also think you should do some more reading on Thor before you start commenting things like Thor isnt magic or he doesnt know as much about magic as Loki. These are things someone would already know if he has read Thor comics. So, all in all, Thor deserves a 100 in intellect due to: • 1 - Thousands of years of experience • 2 - Knowledge of all 10 realms • 3 - Knowledge of complex Earthly ststems of electronics that he can use to aid himself, much like Iron Man • 4 - The intellect and experience given to him by Donald Blake who has built a robot with an IQ of 375 and is known as one of the best surgeons in the world who graduated from Med-School at Harvard University
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 2 days ago
Thor has learned complex Earthly systems of electronics while he was with Tony Stark. Lol, now your swithing your opinions. In one comment your saying that Thor isnt magical and now your saying he is? Cmon, lets keep up a well thought out and logical debate. All Im trying to say is that Thor is a genius in the arts of war and he is also a genius in the arts of medicine, electronics, and science because of his gifted intellect given to him by Donald Blake. So yes, Thor is a science based character given that Thor has had the intellect of Donald Blake almost since his creation.
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remy94
remy94 2 days ago
Please give me a reference to Thor using the genius level intellect of Daniel Blake witch is up to date. Thor is a warrior god and a magical based character, not a science based character as Iron man for example. All of Thor's magical powers come from Mjolnir, all of his other powers come from his godly life force. When insane and completely mindless you are not going to be using your intelligence, warriors madness brings down Thor's intelligence a bit don't you think? the point I'm trying to make is that compared to Odin, Loki, Read Richards, Doctor Strange, Thor is not that knowledgeable about the realms, magic or science as these characters.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 5 days ago
@wolfdragon123/remy94: Intelligence can be many things. I could argue that if someone is knowledgeable, he is intelligent. And Thor is wise which means he is knowledgeable. And like @God_of_Thunder said, Thor has the intelligence of Donald Blake who built an android that had an IQ of 375 (183 points more than Batmans IQ, it almost doubles Batmans IQ) and could withstand blows from Mjolnir. Also, the time spent with the Avengers, more specifically Tony Stark, gave him great knowledge of complex Earthly systems of electronics and the ability to modify the systems for his own purposes. Add all the knowledge of all 10 realms and thousands of years of experience, and you get someone who is one of the most knowledgeable and intelligent beings to ever exist on Earth
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CapricornX102igz
CapricornX102igz 3 days ago
@SirSpidey perfect!
remy94
remy94 3 days ago
@SirSpidey yes he is wise and knowledgeable but there are characters more intelligent. Compared to many characters in his universe Thor is not that bright. And as I said before he is arrogant, unstable, and even insane at times, these are vulnerables other heroes don't have. Since Thor is a warrior god, most of his knowledge goes to combat, not science or magic.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 3 days ago
@remy94: If someone is intellectual, he knows a ton. The whole point of learning is to KNOW what you are trying to learn. If you dont KNOW what your trying to learn, your not learning. When were talking about intelligence, it all boils down to how much someone knows. The point Im trying to make is that Thor knows a ton which would in the end make Thor extremely intelligent. Plus he has the intelligence of Donald Blake which would make him all that much more intelligent in the realm of electronics, science, and medicine. What does arrogance and insanity (which every character is at times) have to do with intelligence? I dont understand, please explain. And considering Thor is practically an embodiment of magic, Im pretty sure he knows a vast amount of what and who he is, which is, of course, magic
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remy94
remy94 3 days ago
Being insane means your mental state is low, but for Thor this makes him a more powerful warrior, witch is the point of the character to be a warrior god not a genius. He is not the embodiment of magic as you call him, all of his magical capabilities come from Mjolnir. Can you please tell me when Thor has used the intellect of Daniel Blake?
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 2 days ago
I understand what insanity is, I just dont understand what it has to do with intelligence. Do you think that after Thor is done with his Warriors Madness state he isnt as smart? Thor is a genius in the arts of war and is a genius in the arts of medicine, electronics, and science because of the intelligence granted to him by Donald Blake. He also has knowledge of all 10 realms and has thousands of years of experience under his belt. Also, if Thor himself isnt an embodiment of magic and all his magic comes from Mjolnir, then how did Thor create a blast more powerful than Mjolnir with his bare hands? Thor has used the intelligence of Donald Blake beginning from Jouney Into Mystery #83 through prestent day. I dont know what your trying to poont out by that question
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remy94
remy94 6 days ago
Yes I agree, but Thor is definitely not on the same level of loki or Odin in the knowledge of magic. As I said he is a warrior god first and foremost, not a sorcerer or scientists. And most if not all of Thor's magical powers and abilities were endowed upon him, and characters as Loki actually study and practiced in magic for thousands of years.
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remy94
remy94 7 days ago
And Mjolnir grants Thor dimensional travel, it isn't a magical spell he learned to say or do, as the likes of Doctor Strange have done.
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remy94
remy94 7 days ago
Yes they can access information but that doesn't give Thor anymore intelligence dose it? The difference is that Superman actually sits down and studies the information here has, Thor uses it if needed.
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CapricornX102igz
CapricornX102igz 6 days ago
Dude! The knowledge Thor and the Asgardians learn are 90% mostly magical stuff. Compare that to what Superman is learning and it's completely different things. Now the question is, which knowledge will help the combatant in the battlefield? I'll go for magic because magic is very very difficult to counter.
CapricornX102igz
CapricornX102igz 7 days ago
@remy94 You have a point, but then again the Asgardians don't need to memorize everything as they do have an information repository where they can just access information from. Kinda like Superman's crystal hard drives. I thought he knows some powerful magic like conjuring a gateway to other realms by his hammer and doing other stuff with it. That can be considered advanced magic, right?
remy94
remy94 7 days ago
I think the stats of the god of thunder are accurate, Thor is above all else a warrior god, and spent his whole life training to be the greatest warrior of his people. he is not that knowledgeable of magic compared to his brother Loki, who spent his life training in this field, and is not even close to knowing as much about nine realms as his father Odin. Thor is also at times arrogant, rash, unstable, and even insane this seems to be a weakness of all gods in the Marvel universe. He is also never stated to have perfect recall. This I think puts his intelligence at 70 at most.
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God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 7 days ago
Even this sites is not concistent and realy accurate as Wolfdragon in some way explained. In the comics Thor is able to have have advantage of Dr Donald Blakes Intelligence who is a surgeon and have also built an android.
The expirience and knowledge of thousends of years he of course is very intelligent.
To note is that this inconcistant writing is of course not limited to Mighty Thor
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wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 7 days ago
On the official Marvel website, Thor has a 2 out of 7 in intelligence. A 2 is equivalent to normal. I personally do not agree with this and think that it should be a 3 or a 4 (which is "learned" and "gifted") because he does have above average intelligence, but he doesn't really go out of his way to learn new things unless he has to.
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wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 7 days ago
Intelligence is what you know and how easily you can learn new things, but wisdom is using your personal experiences to properly apply that intelligence.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 7 days ago
@CapricornX102igz: Amen! Finally, someone who gets it. People always underrate the power of Thor and all the other Asgardians. If Thor has been around thousands of years, there is absolutely no way he cant be smarter then an alien who was raised and gained all his knowledge on Earth and has been on it for only 30 or 40 years. Lol, thats just ridiculous. Thor has knowledge of all 10 realms and has been around thousands of years. And like Capricorn said, if someone has wisdom, he has much knowledge
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CapricornX102igz
CapricornX102igz 7 days ago
@thinkoutsidethebox LOL at you dude! What's wrong with you? Me being annoying? What makes Kryptonians more gifted than Asgardians? Wisdom comes from knowing things, or maybe you missed that in class, huh? That's why the Asgardians have the Odin Force and a whole lot of other magic that will make Kryptonians look like 5-year olds fighting a huge dinosaur. I have not heard any Kryptonian take on someone like Galactus before, have you? And Superman will literally die if he faced the Allfather. But Thor doesn't have to bring his family into this fight, he can just enter into warrior madness mode and amp his strength using the belt of strength Megingjord to bitchslap Superman like a bleeding little b*tch!
thinkoutsidethebox
thinkoutsidethebox 10 days ago
@CapricornX102igz honestly ur very annoying and very ignorant. pls stop ur baised towards marvel. kryptonians learn at a very very fast rate, he can reach the knowledge bat man has acquired in mere months if he actually tried and studied. thor even as old as he is, only gained wisdom not knowledge, some knowledge, but he would be the equivalent as a normal human in terms of intelligence, he's not that smart and doesn't think things through in a fight, superman actually tries to strategize fights. thor does have the will and worthiness to make up for it and the power as well.
CapricornX102igz
CapricornX102igz 10 days ago
Why is Superman more intelligent than Thor? Thor has acquired thousands of years worth of knowledge! He is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy above Superman in this area.
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mekkaxko 24 days ago
A mix between a elder god and a skyfather plus Having thousand of years of fighting experience versus a 30-40 year Old Alien?? Come on!
Jordz808
Jordz808 28 days ago
Thor would smash superman. Thor is jus as strong if not stronger, has magic, is more durable and is A GOD. Superman get more vote because he's popular, that's it. If worst comes to worst, anyone can kill superman jus sprinkle some crytonite on him
Caesar6994
Caesar6994 40 days ago
Thor has access to magic.. Superman will lose at some point, no matter how powered up he gets, if he even can get that far.. Thor, again is Odin's son, he is no pushover, Thor wins a good one here..
legendOFcomics
legendOFcomics 44 days ago
OF COURSE SUPERMAN WINS!!!! WHAT MAGIC AND BULSH*T YOU TALKING ABOUT??
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Superfanboy648 47 days ago
Superman is Smarter, Stronger and faster and more durable then Thor. Yes supes is weak to Magic but Superman has the speed to dodge his magic attacks.
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Micaiahadair 65 days ago
Thor has magic superman weakness is magic game over
TheOverlord
TheOverlord 73 days ago
Also Odin himself banned thor from ever using that ritual ever again. As it was Thor was pushed to the point of extreme emotional distress to use that ritual because it was considered unthinkable by the asgardians. So unless Superman threatens somebody Thor loves to the extreme Tor probably wouldn't even consider the ritual. And it is a RITUAL. It takes time to do it it isn't instantaneous and Thor needs to incapacitate the target so they don't move when he tries. Basically what I am saying is he won't be draining Supes life force anytime soon. Regardless of that I believe Thor still will win this fight for other reasons.
TheOverlord
TheOverlord 73 days ago
@SirSpidey you keep referring to Thor stealing Life Essence and I think the comic you are referring to is during the event that nearly killed kevin Masterson when Loki attacked him. Thor then killed Loki and absorbed his Life Essence into his own. The only reason he could do that is because of their previous soul merger when Odin merged them to defeat the demon surtur. That is the only time Thor has ever absorbed life essence. And that is why, so no he can not absorb Superman or anyone elses.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 73 days ago
Also, if you some how dont think that the old Thor comics are canon, Superman going many times the speed of light wouldnt be canon because in the comic in which he did that, it was an old comic as well.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 73 days ago
@wolfdragon123: Thor took the life force from someone in an old, old comic. I dont know which one. Taking the life force of someone means that you take there soul. Its pretty self explanatory. So unless Superman doesnt have a soul, he is a goner. And, I cant find an instance of Thor doing it because of how old the comic is
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 73 days ago
@Spectre94: Yes, Superman has the speed advantage but Thor has already beat someone faster than Superman so it wont be a great, big factor for the outcome of the battle as you claim.
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TheOverlord
TheOverlord 74 days ago
You guys still going on with this? Has it become the battle of fanboys with very few reasonable minds left? I enjoy reading it as much as anybody else but can we please stop calling each other fanboys guys? At this point it is obvious who the fanboys are and it is obvious no amount of debate will change their minds. So please guys be civil about this, that's all I ask. Pls.
Spectre94
Spectre94 74 days ago
Thors ability to seal life force or the soul from a character is a silver age feat and is no longer cannon. The god of thunder is much less powerful than his debut, all powers and abilities on this site is the perhaps the closest thing to his modern incarceration.
wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 74 days ago
@SirSpidey: Im actually pretty curious. When has Thor taken away someone's life force and what exactly does that mean? Do you have any actual examples of this happening?
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Spectre94
Spectre94 74 days ago
I'm done debating this with someone who doesn't even know what they are talking about, I'll simply say that Thor wins but Superman definitely has the Speed advantage.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 74 days ago
@wolfdragon123: Or Thor takes away his life force
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 74 days ago
@Spectre94: Man you are pitiful, arent you? Do you think Superman can beat Silver Surfer? Of course he cant, but quess who can beat Silver Surfer? Thor. Its simple, all you have to do is stop being a Superman fanboy and all will make sense. I also never said that Thor defeated a character moving at the speed of light, I said that Thor has beat a speedster. Also, of course Thor cant keep up with Silver Surfer, but he can keep up while fighting, as seen in the comics
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wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 74 days ago
Just in general, people seem to highly underrate how important speed is to a battle. If one character can move fast enough, he/she can avoid a large amount of another characters attacks. Also, with the speed, one character can hit the other a lot quicker than they can react (plus the extra speed adds a great amount of power). Scientifically speaking, strength has almost nothing to do with the amount of force that a strike delivers (F=ma). So no matter who is stronger, even though Superman is, the main thing that factors in when it comes to force is speed, and because superman is obviously faster, his strikes hit harder.
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Soulcollecter57
Soulcollecter57 74 days ago
I completely agree, Superman is faster but we both know Superman won't exploit his speed advantage but if he did it has little effect on the overall battle sorry for misinterpreting your previous comments.
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Spectre94
Spectre94 74 days ago
I agree that Thor wins in most cases, and he has my vote. What I don't agree with is when people say that Thor defeated a character moving at light speed. And saying that Superman doesn't have a huge speed advantage when he does, he is in fact ten times faster than Thor.
Soulcollecter57
Soulcollecter57 74 days ago
I never said anything about Thor's speed that was you, SirSpidey, and Wolfdragon123 I pointed out the fact that everyone argues and brings up speed when it comes to debates when speed has no effect on a match between these two powerhouses, who are known for their strength not their speed.
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Spectre94
Spectre94 74 days ago
Did Thor defeat a speedster? Yes. Can Thor actually keep up with Silver Surfer or Superman if they were moving at top speed? No. Your comments about the speed of characters are laughable and don't make any sense, your just trying to be the biggest marvel fanboy you can be.
Soulcollecter57
Soulcollecter57 74 days ago
Why is everyone bringing up speed all of a sudden. In every argument lately (mainly the Flash) which in a battle of this magnitude would matter worth shit. The sheer might of Thor's hits cancels out the very very slim speed advantage that Superman could not achieve on his own (it would take him a couple loops around Earth to become faster than Thor) in terms of speed, Thor has a greater power reservoir he can tap into, more experience (thousands of years old), and greater endurance. Thor's power, experience, and endurance all trump Superman's and you're going to tell me he wins because he is faster? That is debating blasphemy and to add to that when the hell has Superman used a speed "advantage" against any opponite... NEVER not one time in Supermans publicated history has he beaten someone because he was faster then them it's been his power and his luck but never his speed.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 74 days ago
Did Thor beat a speedster? Yes. So, can Thor keep up with Superman? Yes. End of argument. Just stop being a fanboy
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wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 74 days ago
@SirSpidey: like @Spectre94 said, Thor has never beaten Silver Surfer when he was using his super speed (or any speedster why they were going at super speed), so your whole argument is meaningless.
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Spectre94
Spectre94 74 days ago
Thor didn't defeat Sliver Surfer while he was moving at super speed. So that means Thor doesn't have any feats of actually defeating a speedster.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 74 days ago
Doesnt matter, Thor has already beaten someone who can go much faster than Superman
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wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 74 days ago
Your argument makes no sense. That's like saying that since someone beat Bane in a fight when he didn't use his Venom, then they would be able to beat him even if he used it. If Silver Surfer was fighting at his top speed, then Thor would not be able to touch him and the Surfer would win. This would be the same with Superman. Superman can go significantly faster than Thor and he is more than fast enough to evade and dodge all of Thor's attacks.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 75 days ago
It doesnt matter, he still beat someone who is just as fast as the Flash, you cant say anything against it. Maybe Silver Surfer felt that there was no point in fighting a god that is more powerful and more experienced than him at super speed.
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Spectre94
Spectre94 75 days ago
The answer is no, he was not fighting Thor at light speed, Silver Surfer can only move at incalculable speeds in travel between distances.
T113Y15
T113Y15 75 days ago
I like Superman and this would be a good fight but in the end Thor wins....
wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 75 days ago
But has Thor ever defeated Silver Surfer while Silver Surfer was fighting at a significant speed?
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 75 days ago
If a character has an infinite amount of speed, Im sure that he can fight at super speed
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Spectre94
Spectre94 75 days ago
Doesn't mean he can ether.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 75 days ago
It doesnt mean he cant
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Spectre94
Spectre94 80 days ago
If you are referring to Silver Surfer he is not comparable to Superman, he has absolutely no feats of fighting at Super Speed.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 80 days ago
Dont say that Superman has the speed advantage, Thor has already beaten a being much faster than Superman. Superman couldnt even reach the sun before he is dead. Thor would just throw his hammer at him and knock him down or hell just godblast him before he reaches the sun. Its not a fair fight
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Spectre94
Spectre94 80 days ago
The Son of Odin against the Last son of Krypton, Thor would eventually win, although it would probably be the fight of his life. Superman can survive anything short of the godblast, and can think and move much faster than the god of thunder. Plus if Superman takes a little dip in the sun it doesn't really matter if Thor is a god or not Superman would win in that case.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 97 days ago
It really isnt that much of a debate though
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Caesar6994
Caesar6994 97 days ago
Tough one again.. Superman or Thor.. I'll have to choose Thor because he has some magical abilities and his star forged hammer.. Although I think Superman looses this one, it'd be debatable for as long as comics exist..
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WILLDEBEAST 98 days ago
They are so close in everything but I think Thor would best Sups because of his fighting skills. He's a god who's spent hundreds of years doing battle. He once fought for 3 months straight non stop. So he outclasses Sups in Stamina. There's also the magic thing. Not a complete game changer but a enough to give Odinson the win.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 110 days ago
Im glad to see that Thor is finally at a higher class level than Superman. Even though Thor should be at Silver Surfers class, Im glad to see he is at least better that a 30 year old alien
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Galactus
Galactus 133 days ago
I try not to be influenced by people just saying '[insert character name] should be class xx'. If it's a lesser known character I just look at the uStats.
At this point Superman is a 24.2 and Thor is a 23.7 before rounding the numbers. Hope that helps
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Spectre94
Spectre94 133 days ago
I love how you guys continue commenting even though you have already made your points dozens of times, the truth is both are easily capable of defeating one another it comes down to who you prefer, Thor wins in my opinion, but I think Superman's incalculable power levels could easily prove overpowering for the god of thunder.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 134 days ago
Ya, I guess he has to satisfy the fanboys so that they will stay on the sight. Absolutely no offense Galactus, I understand completely
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God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 134 days ago
Galactus is doing a realy good job with this fan sight. There is a lot of work get things running always something to work on. A lot of the statistics are accurate and nothing to say about but there are also some that is wrong. In my mind the system should work for making things to be as much as possible Marvel and Dc have intended.
The Overall statistic is not accurate for some characters in comparison to others !
Some have to high number others to low.
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wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 135 days ago
I'm glad Galactus finally made their class equal (but Superman should still be higher)
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Martin
Martin 136 days ago
Superman is more more more faster than Thor he will win.
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mekkaxko 142 days ago
I think Thor wins, because when thor realy lets loose he can truly live up to being a "god", he has knocked out the phoenix force and the phoenix force is probably top 10 most powerful beings in all of marvel, he has hurled a sword trough a celestial and knocked it of his feet, and also tanked blows from the celestials who can destroy universes, he lifted the midgard serpent which weighs atleast 80 sextillion tons, hit gorr so hard he opened up a black hole, almost destroyed a planet with the shockwave of his strikes alone, and he was far away from the planet, he can conjure the storms of 1000 worlds. Thor also Absorbed a bomb into himself that was supposed to erase all divinity from past, present and future, strikes the chaos king, who is above odin and zeus with a lightning blow that actuallt hurt him, broke sentrys neck, he can destroy multiple planets with his godblast, he has also tanked blows from odin, odin can destroy galaxies with ease.
God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 147 days ago
This is very true Sirspidey 👍
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 148 days ago
I havent heard of Superman making a being like Galactus run for his life. There are so many feats of Thor that people dont know about, or may never will, because he is the less popular. It is getting on my nerves
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Dalodus
Dalodus 148 days ago
superman has superior feats
crazykitwana
crazykitwana 166 days ago
if superman gets too mad he way to powerful he would kill thor
crazykitwana
crazykitwana 166 days ago
if superman gets too mad he way to powerful he would kill thor
crazykitwana
crazykitwana 166 days ago
if superman gets too mad he way to powerful he would kill thor
flamingtayo
flamingtayo 167 days ago
what thor lacks in speed he gets in experience and thor is more durable but to me they are way evenly matched and i give thor because he just has a little edge over supes due to magic.
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Spectre94
Spectre94 167 days ago
I'm insulted, I am no Superman fanboy.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 168 days ago
Oh yay, another Superman fanboy whos reason for superman winning is, "Well........because hes Superman and no one can hurt him." PATHETIC
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Spectre94
Spectre94 170 days ago
Yes Thor is a god, but Superman would simply not care, I'm sorry my fellow Thor fans Superman would win!
SilverSisu
SilverSisu 221 days ago
If this is regular Thor then this is a good matchup. I see Thor winning with major difficulty even though Superman is faster. Thor is stronger and has his magical Mjolnir, and warrior madness. RKT Thor stomps Superman
God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 230 days ago
Thanks sirspidey
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 230 days ago
Nicely said @God_of_Thunder
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God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 230 days ago
Once i heard or read a very good coment regarding the speed of Mighty Thor.
"It have never happened that he have lost a battle because of speed".
Mighty Thors level of speed is the speed of light a rather impressive level.
The character have been around since 62 and defeated mutch faster opponents as the Silver Surfer in almost every encounter.
Mighty Thor is a God the blood son of Odin himself and Gaea the Elder godes of earth.
His Origin is Mythical and magical, his very essence the god force is magical in nature.
The expirience level of beeing a several thousend years old warrior god is redicules.
He wields the vastly powerful weapon Mjolnir, a magical war hammer with the power to bend space and time. It may even absorb 20 percent of all energy in the universe.
I think the common knowledge about this character is rather limited.
Mighty Thor is a very bad opponent for the man of steel.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 231 days ago
Thor is probably the most durable hero in the Marvel universe, were talking about a god here, so a little energy beam wouldnt do much at all. Thor has held notable victories over Glory, Sentry, and killed both Hulk and Thing at once, and has driven back Galacus with a god-blast. So Thor has defeated probably more powerful enemies than Superman has defeated. And yes, Thors lightning can destroy plants but his hammer can destroy planEts. And for speed yes Superman is extremely fast but not fast enough for Thor not to get off a magic based attack to stop Superman in his tracks. So really it boils down to power which Thor beats Superman at because he uses MAGIC.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 231 days ago
I mean if you want to talk stats please explain to me why Thor is ranked at 24 and Superman is ranked at 23. Ill answer it for you. As I have said about a thousand times, SUPERMAN IS WEAK AGAINST MAGIC and Thor is a magically based character that wields the most powerful magically based weapon in history. And Thor can teleport, which brings me to my next point. If Thor has access to every realm in the universe, what is stopping him from finding just a little rock that could end Supermans life? I mean look at every person, in the comics and the movies, who wanted really badly to find cryptonite have found it. And all those DC/ Marvel cross-overs are NOT canon at all.
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wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 231 days ago
When it comes to energy projection the answer is pretty obvious; Superman's heat vision once wiped out an army of Doomsday clones with one blast (they only had a fraction of the durability but were still very powerful) and a single beam has been able to completely destroy plants! Can Thor's lightning do that? No. And how many of those blasts do you think that Thor can take? Last is combat and this one is also very obvious; Thor takes that as he is much better trained to fight than Superman is. Overall, I would say this this would be a beautiful battle to watch, but the clear victor 8/10 would be SUPERMAN!
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wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 231 days ago
Now, let's look at their stats. Superman is smarter as he is an alien from a more intellectualy driven race. He is also clearly stronger because he once lifted a book which contained an infinite amount of pages; this means that he has an INFINITE amount of strength! He is also much faster than Thor since he has been considered to be one of the fastest beings in the universe, faster than anyone in DC excluding the Flashes and faster than anyone in Marvel excluding the Silver Surfer (he can go and think at many times the speed of light so it will be fairly easy to evade the lightning that Thor will blast at him). When it comes to durability, it is very even, but I would give it to Superman because the only thing that has been able to beat him in a physical fight is Doomsday, a creature so powerful that it doesn't even compare to the things that Thor has fought before.
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wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 231 days ago
Superman would be moving so fast that Thor and his hammer would not be able to keep up with him. Anyway, Thor is gonna eventually throw the hammer at Superman only to find that he too can wield his weapon. If you that Superman alone was scary, imagine him with one of the most powerful weapons in the universe! And when he did this before, coming in physical contact with the hammer did not hurt him at all, it actually made him even more powerful.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 233 days ago
If Superman is effected by magic and Thors hammer is magically based, how could Superman pick up Thors hammer? He wouldnt even know what to do with it and it would be stunning him everytime he touches it. And why are you telling me that Superman would recover easily, Ive been saying stun this whole entire time?
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Marky230501
Marky230501 234 days ago
Furthermore, if a fight is taken place under a yellow sun he can easily recover from magic attacks.
Marky230501
Marky230501 234 days ago
Superman is not affected by most magic, and if anything surely Superman is worthy enough to lift thors hammer.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 257 days ago
If Thor even gets off one magical based attack on Superman it is enough to stun him. Therefore once Superman is stunned Thor would fly in and pound Superman with his MAGIC based hammer. It all boils down to that magic that Thor has mastered comletely.
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nfs
nfs 262 days ago
THOR WITHOUT HIS HAMMER HE CAN'T DO MANY THINGS.BUT I THINK HE'S A VERY POWERFUL AVENGER.
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nfs 262 days ago
ALSO SUPERMAN CAN'T DIE EVEN WITH KRYPTONITE.IF HE DIES HE WILL RETURN,LIKE DEATH OF SUPERMAN .HE RETURNED FROM DEATH.
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nfs 262 days ago
NO ONE WOULD REALLY WIN IN DEATH,BUT SUPERMAN IN BATTLE.SUPERMAN IS IMMORTAL WITH THE SUN'S ENERGY AND THOR EATED AN APPLE FOR LONG LIFE.
God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 308 days ago
Speed is of course one of all Abilitys that is very important. If one character is massivly faster as 35 versus 100 this will be a very big issue. If bouth characters are very fast one do have 100 the other 85 and in this case the diffrence is 10 or 15 percent what i think is about right it will give a bonus.
All Abilitys is important !
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God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 309 days ago
Lets agree of this, there is about a handfull of superheroes that fans may proclaim most powerful and not just beeing wrong.
No one is the truth 100 percent in this but we may come close at least.
If we choose to exclude Specter for some reasons and not count in order the following characters should be in that list.
Mighty Thor, Silver Surfer, Superman, Martian Manhunter, Doctor Manhattan, Sentry and Shazam. Perhaps i have forgotten someone what do you think ?
The Sorcerers i think is directly after the ones mentioned ?
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remy94
remy94 309 days ago
Thor is the more powerful in this battle, only because he welds Mjolnir, although I don't think he's the most powerful superhero, next to the Spectre maybe? Mjolnir is a powerful object based on magic, If you take the two advantages of these characters, witch is speed and magical attacks, speed will be the victorious in the end, because what good is an attack against a opponent that you will never hit.
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God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 309 days ago
The Thor vs. Superman debate Breakdown
Posted from Old-Wizard.com, I think this article gives a more in-depth reason on how Thor would win more battle against The Man of Steel than vice versa.Some of you may remember our Top 10 Most Powerful Superheroes list that we released a while back, where we made the controversial claim that Thor was the most powerful superhero of all time (Superman coming in at number three on that list). Months later we are still receiving emails either agreeing with us, or flaming us for that decision. Many fans cite Supermans speed as the deciding factor in any fight between the two behemoths. Other emails claim that Thors magical powers would be enough to stop the man of steel in his tracks. So, the natural question is, do we still stand by our claim that Thor is more powerful than Superman? The answer is still yes. In this article well break down the seven most common arguments and give you our take on them.
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JDSmash1995 309 days ago
Thor has the upper hand due to magic. Also the hammer weighs more than planets. One hit from Mjolnir will bring superman close to death
donalc93
donalc93 337 days ago
Superman's weakness: Magic, red sun light, kryptonite
Thor is magic, and can BFR Supes to a red star system with ease.
Supes + Thor = Thor stomps
remy94
remy94 349 days ago
Yes flamingtayo I now of RK Thor, or Rune King Thor, it's perhaps the most powerful version the character, and I will say that this version will defeat the average Man of Steel, although using a above average version of Thor, means that Superman Prime One Million the above average version of Superman could also be used :-)
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flamingtayo
flamingtayo 349 days ago
Remy94 have you heard or RK thor ?
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flamingtayo
flamingtayo 349 days ago
Too much supes fanboys on this site
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remy94
remy94 350 days ago
True comic book fans now that superman if not holding back his true power, will basically wipe Thor of the face of the earth, he's just a on completely different level.
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remy94
remy94 350 days ago
Hay Superman wheres Thor? "Hes in orbit, I sent him into orbit at mach 7, if you had super hearing any moment you would hear the puff" and gone! -Superman.
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God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 350 days ago
Ok here we go
Intelligence Superman
Strength Draw
Durability Thor
Speed Superman
Dexterity Superman
Endurance Thor
Energy/Power Output Thor
Versetality Thor
Combat Thor
Expirience Thor
Equipement Thor
Weakness/Limitation Superman
As Slangstrong and Old wizard and many serious comic book fans know The Mighty Thor is not a good oponent for The man of steel because of his magical origin.
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remy94
remy94 352 days ago
Basically Thor's only advantage in this battle is magical attacks.
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penguin 361 days ago
Superman is weak to magic. Other than that, they're pretty much perfectly matched.
remy94
remy94 1 year ago.
The Mighty Thor's powers are not pure magic and are more of a combination of cosmic energy and magic, this means that Thor's energy blasts would less or no effect on the Man of Steel.
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remy94
remy94 1 year ago.
When you think about it could Thor even keep up with the Man of Steel in fighting speed, Superman could easily doge Thor's lighting bolts.
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remy94
remy94 1 year ago.
This is an amazing battle between two titans with great power, I've looked at this a million ways and I came up with a winner. Thor is vary fast in flight but not in movement speed I have never seen him move as fast as say the flash, Superman wins in strength also even if Thor is using the Odin force. In terms of durability Superman wins he has survived over 50 super nova's at once and with no bodily damage it only nocked him out. This is where power comes in, I gave it to Thor not because he is more powerful but because he can harm Supes with his magic blasts, but with all of these other powers stacking on Superman's plate how can Thor even hope to keep up with a man that can move faster then light, my winner is the Man of Steel.
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remy94
remy94 1 year ago.
A battle between god and a god.
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Yuyudodo 1 year ago.
Thor wins thor have an attack that kills immortals ur saying that an alien defeat a god
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remy94
remy94 1 year ago.
It's a close one but Superman takes Thor's Hammer home for me.
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Will1 1 year ago.
Thor!
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Chalk
Chalk 1 year ago.
Magic.....more like enchantments and ok he uses lightning far from magic even if u say he can use weather thats not magic and supes can tank tht so how would magic attacks affect superman explain please....Thor has more limits than supes and is very durable but not as supes....SUN radiation and tht green rock....how does thor do it.....Superman will separate him from tht hammer and he might be better in combat technique wise but he cnt stand toe 2 toe with supes with tht speed and strength plus heat vision and wind breath......Thor is far from weak but he was corny till recently with the new movies. Heads up Superman wins he needs no enchantments or weapons picture him doing what hulk did to loki in the Avengers movies....PUNY GOD.....!
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flamingtayo
flamingtayo 1 year ago.
now pls let's think how will superman over come his magic weakness hun??!! we all love Superman but let acknowledge his weaknesses also there is no way on earth supes is winning this battle
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flamingtayo
flamingtayo 1 year ago.
let's see superman 1 million vs RK Thor
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God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 1 year ago.
Well my phone have a way of spelling by its own very often sadly :(
About objective well i think im one of the more objective at least and tries to reason and also admits when a favorit of mine looses.
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gravedigger
gravedigger 1 year ago.
@God_of_Thunder Please forgive me, I don't want to come off as being rude, but wanted to rebut. I don't think you should comment on the objectivity of other fans, being you yourself are not objective in this match up, judging by your name alone. Also, I cant take someone's opinion seriously who can't even spell correctly.
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God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 1 year ago.
I realy understand that fans of Superman wants their superhero to be the victorious all the time. But this makes them very blind and unable to reason objectively.
- Superman do have realy serious weaknesses and this may never become something that makes him more powerful, a weakness is a limitation for the character!
Humans got a lot of weaknesses and its something some of us at least tries to get rid of or at least master.
- An opponent of similar power level who may exploit any of thouse limitations will defeat Superman. May it be Kryptonit, cut off the sunlight or magical energies used in attacks against him. Shazam, Dr Fate, Dr Strange, Silver surfer and Mighty Thor will all defeat Superman. To be a 35 year old Alien of Incredible godlike powers and limitations like he have is far fram enough to be victorious against a a god of thunder and war who is like thousends of years. Thats realy not objective in any way !
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gravedigger
gravedigger 1 year ago.
Superman wins, here's why. First, in all reality, Thor isn't "worthy" of his own power. He is arrogant and brash. Imop there can or should be only one wielder of Mjolnir, but that's my own theory. If it were true Superman would definitely be more worthy. Second, Odin proclaims anyone who is worthy may possess the power of Thor. Superman is more worthy therefor adding Thors power onto his own. Third, Superman is far more intelligent and far faster, this trumps Thors combat experience. And last but not least, a weakness to magic does not mean he is easily defeated by it. It simply means he can be hurt by it. We as humans have weaknesses to all kinds of things, why are we not extinct? Because we overcome and adapt, just like Superman would.
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TheTrueSuperman
TheTrueSuperman 1 year ago.
But lets be honest. They would end up teaming up and become Guardians of the Universe's'
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TheTrueSuperman
TheTrueSuperman 1 year ago.
Superman all the way. Thor doesn't know any of Superman's weaknesses. Plus Thor may have magic, but technically doesn't really use it in the way that affects Superman, (lightning doesn't hurt Superman). Superman and Thor would have an epic fight which would last days do to them both having abilities to fight for long periods of time, but Superman's just doesn't tire out as Thor does. Plus Superman is stronger, faster, and smarter. Finally, if they took to space Superman would be able to use Thor's hammer (as seen by red hulk).
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Chalk
Chalk 1 year ago.
Who's more worthy than Superman after he rips thors belt off he whoops his azz with his own hammer.
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flamingtayo
flamingtayo 1 year ago.
@sirspidey I agree with u besides he could just teleport him to a planet with the red sun
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aim1
aim1 1 year ago.
to win the battle technically, Superman's enemy must have kryptonite or magic or trap field or simply stronger than him.
Thor have 2 of those. Thor take this just slightly if he can play it smart, which I personally doubt about it.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 year ago.
Thor would win because#1-Thor uses magic,which superman is weak against.#2-If Thor has access to every realm I would think he could find krypton items somewhere.#3-If Thor were to demobilize superman in any way he could teleport him to asgaurd which is far away from the sun, which we all know superman feeds off the sun AND if he were to send superman to asgaurd they would either imprison him or flat out kill him.Once he got him away from the sun superman would become more weak and Thor would pound him until death.
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Ski78686 1 year ago.
Erm.. Lets see err, Thor weaknesses = none > Superman weaknesses = Magic, Kryptonite. I know who my pick is
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flamingtayo
flamingtayo 1 year ago.
@Carnage1 do u think *thoroughly* (Thor) will drop his hammer
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flamingtayo
flamingtayo 1 year ago.
Thor will win theoretically cuz supes is venerable to magic and Thor is all magic eps mjolnir
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Galactus
Galactus 1 year ago.
Both updated stats. With one update comes 6 more...
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I10084ironman 1 year ago.
Thor may be powerful but Superman is better imo. I think Superman can beat him in a fight. Superman has lifted Mjolnir in Marvel vs DC crossover. I know its not canon but why not say he can't do it again? If the battle leads to space Superman would destroy him because of the Earth's yellow sun charging his powers. Superman has defeated Darkseid which i don't think Thor can take on his own. Superman can take hits from Mjolnir and the lightning from it, and without Mjolnir Thor wouldn't do to hot against Supes.
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Joesha28 1 year ago.
Thor have beaten greater opponent than Superman and they were also more powerful than anyone that superman has beaten.
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God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 1 year ago.
I may be blind or stupid but i realy can not see how its realistic that a character with no defence against magical attacks could win over a character whu is a warrior god 5 6 thousend years old complitly based of magic and also wielding a very powerfull weapon based upon magic ?
Superman are also just about 35 years of age raised on a farm.
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TheComicGenius
TheComicGenius 1 year ago.
In the battle depicted above several amazing and noteworthy things happened.
Initially Thor caught Superman by surprise and floored him.
Superman won the rematch at the end partially because Thor underestimated Superman.
Superman lifted and wielded Mjolnir.
Thor allowed him to lift the hammer but certainly Odin considers Superman worthy to use the hammer as has been seen in other circumstances anyhow.
Superman only just barely beat Thor. It was a close fight and both admitted it could have gone either way.
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Carnage1
Carnage1 1 year ago.
Superman wins cause once thoroughly drops his hammer he is open to any attack in close combat from superman
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God_of_Thunder
God_of_Thunder 1 year ago.
A magical based God of Thunder and war armed with Mjolnir the most powerful weapon in the myths. Several thousend years of age with a herritage from Asgard and the elder gods. Against a super powerfull Alien with maybe 30 years of expirience and no defence against magical attacks and other serious limitations. This is a way overrated fight its redicules. A more even fight whould be Superman against The Sentry !
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sergio24 1 year ago.
Si, cualquiera puede vencer a Superman con kriptonita, pero hay que suponer que las batallas se dan con las armas (si las hubiera) que los super hroes usualmente portan y sin ninguna ventaja para nadie en cuanto al contexto tampoco.
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migz925 1 year ago.
I think I could beat superman.....Kryptonite.
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Mastermage
Mastermage 1 year ago.
I have to agree indeed Thor is incredibly Powerful but Superman is just on a different Level.
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supermans_sister3301
supermans_sister3301 1 year ago.
Superman is beast at, literally, everything. So, of course, he would win in a fight against Thor.
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