Superman vs Thor

Who would win a fight?

Created by: Galactus

Character 1

Character 2

317 wins (50.7%)

Superman

Kal-El

28

Powergrid

Intelligence
100
100%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
100
100%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
85
85%

uSTATS

16
Intelligence
85
85%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
100
100%
Durability
100
100%
Power
95
95%
Combat
80
80%
Based on 345 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender male
Race Kryptonian
Height 6'3 // 191 cm
Weight 225 lb // 101 kg
308 wins (49.3%)

Thor

Thor Odinson

30

Powergrid

Intelligence
85
85%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
85
85%
15%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
100
100%

uSTATS

25
Intelligence
70
70%
Strength
95
95%
Speed
85
85%
15%
Durability
95
95%
Power
95
95%
Combat
90
90%
Based on 209 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender male
Race Asgardian
Height 6'6 // 198 cm
Weight 640 lb // 288 kg

Comments

Rizzo
15 hours ago
Rizzo
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Thor

A casual throw from Thor hurt Galactus. Imagine what that would do to Superman
Voted: Superman

Although Thor is one of the strongest superheroes he cannot beat Superman, Superman can pretty much take on ironman, captain America,hulk and Thor at once..he is just too powerful..I'm a huge hulk fan too more than Superman but he's too much for them
Voted: Superman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbTGk-pgTnw Superman has more super Strength, more durable, way more powerful, more intelligence, and he can just go near the sun to get stronger.
Voted: Superman

Oh dear. Either way, I'm going to upset 50 people...
Voted: Superman

Vote Superman.
Voted: Superman

Need feats for that though. All I know of now is that Superman is faster than Thor, but they are equals in strength and durability. Thor has the combat, experience, and versatility advantage.
Voted: Superman

Ok- @ManofPower's feats made me vote for Thor.
Voted: Superman

*Superman. Not Thor.
Voted: Thor

I may seem biased here because thor is my favorite character but Superman is faster and stronger Thor is a better fighter has better armor and last time i checked Superman was weak to magic that if why thor has a 51 percent chance of winning in my opinion
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Thor has sat in the Core of a Sun without NO discomfort, so it is safe to say that he can handle twice the amount of heat. Plus, while Superman might win in front of a star, Thor will see how he gets stronger as he has divine wisdom, and BFR him to another dimension using Mjolnir. There, they can fight. Plus, Thor's lightning is tens of thousands of times deadlier than regular lightning, plus it is magical in nature, which can harm Superman. Plus, Thor has the God-Blast which can harm a weakened Galactus, so it can harm Superman. Superman is faster than Thor: That is true, but Thor has fought Silver Surfer, Hyperion, and even the Void, which are all close to Superman in speed. In fact, SS is faster than Supes, and Thor has held his own, so he won't lose because of speed. Superman cannot lift Mjolnir in canon because he is not willing to kill to gain an honorable victory in battle or war, so he is not worthy.
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

It's kind of late, so this will be the last reply for today- However, this isn't Superman Prime One Million, and Base Thor has enough versatility to put down Superman. He can use his lightning to strike down Superman and imbue it with enough magic to seriously harm him. However, while Thor doesn't usually use the God-Blast, if he does, Superman will be incinerated. However, even if Thor doesn't use it, he can use the Thermoblast which can harm Superman, or use the Anti-Force which can knock the Man of Steel out. Or, Thor can use his elemental control to manipulate the fundamental forces or nature to defeat Superman. He can also transport him to other dimensions, such as Asgard where Thor has the home field advantage. Superman cannot speed-blitz either since Silver Surfer is faster than him, and Thor reacted to him. Plus, he can also fly faster than light, so he can keep up with Superman. Thor can also drain energy from beings, so, even though it is unlikely, Thor might be able to absorb the solar energy from Superman.
Voted: Superman

Another theory, in Marvel and DC's 1996 Crossover event, Superman did lift Thor's hammer and use it. It wasn't canon, but it would be pretty awesome to see Superman catch Moljnier in mid air, and use it against Thor. Honestly this fight could go anyway. Remember, Superman is a power harvester so he could in theory absorb all of Thor's powers, leaving him completely and utterly useless. You mentioned taking Superman to Asgard and I agree that if Thor has the home field advantage he will defeat Superman. Thor draws his powers from Asgard, and when exposed to Asgard, he draws a lot more powers that I understand Superman couldn't handle. Not to mention, Thor would have all his Asgardian buddies to help pummel Superman. Same for Supes. If Superman and Thor are fighting in front of a yellow star, who you suppose will win? Not to mention, Superman is much faster than Thor, and his heat vision can exceed to over 50,000,000 degrees Fahrenheit (27,777,760 degrees Celsius), making it capable of burning through Thor completely cutting him in half! In the end, I think without home advantages Base Superman wins.
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Thor has sat in the Core of a Sun without NO discomfort, so it is safe to say that he can handle twice the amount of heat. Plus, while Superman might win in front of a star, Thor will see how he gets stronger as he has divine wisdom, and BFR him to another dimension using Mjolnir. There, they can fight. Plus, Thor's lightning is tens of thousands of times deadlier than regular lightning, plus it is magical in nature, which can harm Superman. Plus, Thor has the God-Blast which can harm a weakened Galactus, so it can harm Superman. Superman is faster than Thor: That is true, but Thor has fought Silver Surfer, Hyperion, and even the Void, which are all close to Superman in speed. In fact, SS is faster than Supes, and Thor has held his own, so he won't lose because of speed. Superman cannot lift Mjolnir in canon because he is not willing to kill to gain an honorable victory in battle or war, so he is not worthy. Plus, Thor can absorb the energy from Superman with Mjolnir, maybe even depowering him with it. Plus, Thor can withstand Superman's freeze breath as he has survived the Casket of Ancient Winters unleashing its frostbitten power upon him. Plus, Thor can also control the elements on a fundamental level, even transmuting them in any way he wants.
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Superman Prime 1 Million beats Thor- I agree, no way around that- but then, you need a more powerful version of Thor like Odin-Force or King Thor, and those guys beat SPOM- Not even including Old King Thor or Rune King Thor.
Voted: Superman

@AkhilPDX, Go read "All-Star Superman" where in the story it tells us that Supe's power's triple every 15 minutes he spends in the sun. He spent around 15,000 years in our sun. So that's 4x24(365)x15,000=525,600,000. It would be N(3^525,600,000)= infinity which tells us every physical trait of Superman is boosted by infinity! Also, I agree that Superman is weakened by magic, but so is Thor. Supes has also gotten so powerful that kryptonite and magic doesn't even affect him. "Powers gleaned from the very edge of time and space. Powers beyond any HELD by ANY metahuman EVER". SPOM is immortal and is a "power harvester". This means he can harvest the powers of any living organism (including Rune King Thor) and use it against them. If his powers are growing, then there is no limit to his power. In theory, SPOM will someday be the strongest character in comic book history. Remember, take my words lightly, for it is just my opinion

-Dan
Voted: Superman

@AkhilPDX, Did I just win my first debate or should I still be waiting for a reply?
-Dan
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

It's kind of late, so this will be the last reply for today- However, this isn't Superman Prime One Million, and Base Thor has enough versatility to put down Superman. He can use his lightning to strike down Superman and imbue it with enough magic to seriously harm him. However, while Thor doesn't usually use the God-Blast, if he does, Superman will be incinerated. However, even if Thor doesn't use it, he can use the Thermoblast which can harm Superman, or use the Anti-Force which can knock the Man of Steel out. Or, Thor can use his elemental control to manipulate the fundamental forces or nature to defeat Superman. He can also transport him to other dimensions, such as Asgard where Thor has the home field advantage. Superman cannot speed-blitz either since Silver Surfer is faster than him, and Thor reacted to him. Plus, he can also fly faster than light, so he can keep up with Superman. Thor can also drain energy from beings, so, even though it is unlikely, Thor might be able to absorb the solar energy from Superman.
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@Dan_the-Man? Come on, Thor beats Superman. He is equally strong and durable, and with Mjolnir- he hits harder. Did you know that Thor can even transmute matter, manipulate the weather, absorb and manipulate energy, create force-fields, disrupt invisibility and intangibility, absorb magic, and transmute the elements on a subatomic level. Yeah, he can also use the God-Blast which can hurt Galactus and he has the Anti-Force which is Magical Energy which can take out multiple people at once and even devastate entire armies? Do you still think Supes beats Thor?
Voted: Superman

@AkhilPDX, There's a couple different ways to think about it. At base forms, Superman beats Thor, but you bring up Thor at his peak strength. Superman Prime 1 Million which can break planets with ease, can hold black holes in his hands, break light speed,and go much faster, (mach 9350)! Remember, it's just my opinion, while Thor does have a chance of winning, I do believe Superman has a better chance.

Chances of Winning
Superman 54%
Thor 46%
Voted: Superman

Superman in Raw strength, speed, durability.
Thor has magic to call lightening but the lightening is not magical like Shazam, and even at that Superman has still won those fights..
This being rebirth Supes is a very powerful version
Voted: Thor

I actually change my mind, I think I have overrated superman way too much... I think Thor would win cause he is an actual god, Superman is just a hero who has his weeknesses
Voted: Superman

"a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes." That's the definition of a god so technically isn't Superman also a god? You also bring up the fact Superman is just a hero with weaknesses, yet Thor is also a hero, and Thor also has weaknesses which proves that your argument is false, and from my understanding, you're very ignorant on the subject.
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

He isn't really ignorant, but yeah, Superman CAN beat Thor, but I don't think it'll happen the majority of the times. Superman is just an alien, not the hybrid between a Skyfather and an Elder Goddess. Thor has some really good divine benefits from their traits, so I think he'll win because he can use his magic to use against the vulnerability of Kryptonians, which will work if used in the right way.
Voted: Superman

Final Crisis #7
Superman uses a super scram and destroys True Darjseid who is at least multiversal
Death of the new gods
Superman cuts soul fire darkseid in half . a being who scares the source. A outerversal being
Voted: Thor

Final Crisis isn't canon. The Trinity died in that book
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Justice league #40 new 52 Phil Jimenez everything is canon expect for injustice and elseworlds https://comicbook.com/2015/05/01/dc-comics-just-made-their-entire-history-officially-canon/
Voted: Thor

This is a composite of Pre and Post-Crisis Superman. That is what everyone's been using. Not Final Crisis
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

It never specify Superman anywhere its talking about every crisis ever made if you think I'm I'm lying go readcomicsonline and look up the comic justice league new 52 #40
Voted: Thor

I'm talking about the site. On this site, we use Post/Pre-Crisis Superman. Not Final Crisis
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

It not talking about superman it's every single event that happened and also final crisis superman is the same Superman which is pre crisis superman just depowered
Voted: Thor

Every single event that happened in DC is canon I know whatever, point is, you can't use Final Crisis feats because that's not the version of Superman we're using. If we allowed Final Crisis feats we also have to allow any feat that Superman has ever done, which isn't how we've been doing it. Same for every character on the site
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

post crisis superman is final crisis superman the writers don't say it I've checked this website this is base Superman who also infinite crisis,identity crisis and final crisis this is the superman of all those crisis.
Voted: Thor

1. It's not specified on the site itself, but ask any debater on here. Everyone uses a composite of Pre/Post-Crisis
2. By Post-Crisis, we mean Crisis on Infinite Earths. Just because they have "Crisis" in their name does not mean that it is the same thing
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_(Clark_Kent) 1.27 context final crisis this the wiki page now prove me wrong.
Voted: Thor

What? OK, let me prove you wrong
1. DC Wikia is not run by DC themselves, it is nothing more than a VSBW page, which we all know is incorrect sometimes. So don't act like this is the official DC web page
2. I'm sorry what? What are you trying to say? Because it's on a DC wikia it's canon? Please explain
Voted: Thor

So are you going to prove me wrong or what's happening here?
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Phil jamerz says if everything is canon is canon argue with him.
Voted: Thor

Omfg, we're going in circles here. THIS IS POST/PRE-CRISIS SUPERMAN! Or at least what people on the site consider canon. (And even Post-Flashpoint but the majority of heroes are weaker then so those feats are not required.) Get that through your head.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

it doesn't say anything on this sight about what version of Superman this is it the new superman post/new 52/convergence/infinite crisis/final crisis/zero hour/pre crisis/and flashpoint this superman is the one we all know even from death of Superman this is that Superman stop saying he,s most powerful one he,s the main one from rebirth right now prove me wrong on this.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Justice-League/Issue-40?id=18510 This comic proves evething is canon read it even final crisis
Voted: Thor

Omg. Seriously. If you are just going to keep repeating yourself just quit the debate. Now let me repeat for the 31st time. No, it is not specified on the site, however, if you actually got into debates, you would know that everyone uses the Pre/Post-Crisis versions. Superman beating True Form Darkseid would possibly put him above IG Thanos, which obviously isn't true. So not only is it not canon but even if it was canon, it would be PIS. " this superman is the one we all know even from death of Superman this is that Superman stop saying he,s most powerful one". Yes but no one on the site uses that Superman. We've moved on from the conversation of whether it's canon or not, and we're now talking about what people on the site use. Now, you said "stop saying he,s most powerful one" 1. Huh? What are you talking about? I never said anything even related to that. And 2. Please try to spell better so I can understand your sentences.
And as for the comic, I'm not reading the whole thing. Give me a scan or at least the page number
Voted: Thor

Not that the comic matters anyway since we've moved on from whether it's canon or not
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I never said he was the powerful version I said final crisis is canon that what said and that this main canon Superman since rebirth and everything is canon
Voted: Thor

Nemian's comment on my profile sums up my reaction pretty well
Voted: Superman

I never said they can't have supes power . They can't becomevas power as he is . Man of Steel isn't apart of the canon DC Multiverse
Thor can track light speed opponents but Superman is much MUCH faster than light
Strength isn't even as close as you think .
Black Adam and Shazam's magic is much more powerful than Thor's Batman had prep and radion . Plus the Hellbat suit .
Superman won with pure poet
Show me the comic/scan of Thor facing Mangog and Thanos back to back
Thor blasting Galactus is (I believe) Non Canon it was in the 60's for crying out loud
Superman as I said destroyed Impetiex .
Had destroyed Green Lanterns constructs .
Survived Omega beams
C
Red Sun and Magic are not his weaknesses . He is Vulnerable to it
Heck thor himself is vulnerable to magic .
Part 1
Voted: Thor

People please put your bias aside here. Superman is a Kryptonian, an alien race, he is not special. Any kryptonian could be superman. Thor is a God. Born of Odin the all father of Asgard and Gaea the elder earth goddess making him the strongest being in the universe. Thor alone shares many of superman traits matching his strength not matching his speed but is a 10x better combatant. This is shown when superman fought batman and while superman lost his powers temporarily from kryptonite he was getting wrecked. Superman just benefits from our sun. on krypton he like all kryptonians were as human as can be. Now add Mjolnir to the equation. It has the force to crack a celestials skull. Celestials are god like universal entities like galactus. Now Thor only uses 1/3 of his total power against mortals and superman is mortal because he has been killed before and even for fear of his own life would never use all his power against a mortal. BUT if Thor is enraged enough to enter into a state of warriors madness he would no longer be holding back at all and not only this but warriors madness increases Thors strength tenfold now Thor is twice as strong than superman in warriors madness but at Thors belt megingjord which Thor always wears and that doubles all of Thor strength and speed. Now you have plain old super and Thor enraged and quadrupling his total power level. Its complete annihilation of superman. And say Thor doesn't choose this route? Can summon a storm with cloud thick enough to black super precious sun and wreck him this way. What can super do to win? Speed isn't enough here and really isn't even a factor to begin with. If you possibly think superman wins this fight you're to selfish to put your feelings aside and wake up to reality.
Voted: Superman

Dude do you know who supetman even is .
While Thor is a extremely powerful for he cannot defeat Superman
Saying any Kryptonian can become Superman is like saying any Asgardian could wield Mjolnir . Which is FALSE
Supes is faster and stronger than Thor .
Thor is not even close to the strongest being
Hulk , Hercules and Silver Surfer surpasses him
Cracking a celestials skull ha
Superman obliterated Imperiex
Superman has beaten Darkseid , Mongul and Parallax . All who equal (except Mongul) a Celestial in power
Thor and Superman are both able to be killed . Thor's "Immortality" is a form of Infinite Longevity .
Thor couldn't defeat the Sentry . A being weaker than Supes .
And block the sun really?
Superman can either absorb sunlight from the earth or just store his energy . Plus Superman can move the clouds
Thor and Superman are near equals but Superman takes the win
Thor would either stalemate or lose to the man of steel
Voted: Thor

First yes any kryptonian can possess the powers of supes as seen in man of steel with zod hell even Ursa whipped supes. second faster yes but Thor can track objects at light speed and strength is pretty even if you look at each of their feats such as for Thor lifting the Midgard serpent which wraps around the earth. Third Thor has destroyed silver surfers force field and hell even dented his head, Thor defeated the sentry and killed bob Reynolds removing the threat of the void and Thor matched hulks strength for an hour before the battle ended in a stale mate. and Hercules and Thor threw a planet out of orbit while arm wrestling before that ended in a stalemate. As for super beating darkseid batman also shares this feat so lets dial back the gravity of that. Thor mortally wounded galactus with a god blast and sent him fleeing so why the hell would a god blast not take out supes. Thor defeated mangog and thanos back to back and also fought the entire frost giant army for 9 months straight without rest or sustenance. Thor knocked out the phoenix force, knocked out namor with a single punch and namor has even held his own against the hulk and sentry. But enough about feats. Thor possesses all of superman strength while lacking slightly in speed and while not having heat vision or freeze breathe give me mjolnir over those everyday except the ones that don't end in "Y" but superman is susceptible to magic. He has had trouble dealing with Shazam and has lost to black Adam. Thors attacks are all magic based obviously not the strikes but the lighting is summoned by magic. Thors only weakness is that he overlooks his opponent at times but he wouldn't overlook superman, well the avengers/jla crossover he did but that cant considered canon. Thor is almost tailored to be able to defeat superman in everyday. Especially since super has lost to doomsday from a stab wound and not any sort of kryptonite removing the fact that kryptonite isn't required to beat superman
Voted: Thor

*superman did not lose to black adam i was told incorrect information. although he struggled against him
Voted: Superman

Slowdinson gets speedblitzed⚡️
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Really? There's still people who believe that Slowdinson garbage? Thor is not slow in the slightest. Dude is thousands of times faster than light.
Voted: Thor

While I still believe Thor would win here, I have to give some props for "Slowdinson" because that is pure gold
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

1. Thor hasn't really lost to someone because of speed
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While I disagree with you and say that Thor is much faster than light, I got to give you credit for "Swinson"- it's hilarious 😉
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

You guys know he didn't come up with Slowdinson, right? It's been a thing on Comic Vine for years.
Voted: Superman

yes i heard of a God blast and i dont mean superman cannot be affected by he can,, so can everyone else just dat people always say it like its kryptonite and superman has survive a supernova whilst being weakened by a red sun.. but not sayin' he will tank it unharmed
Voted: Thor

Dude, the God Blast harmed Galactus, who has Multi-Galaxy level durability. Superman has never accomplished anything on that level
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Galactus has much more than multi-galaxy level durability. And Superman once destroyed a structure that withstood the Big Bang, which would give him universal levels of power, far more than multi-galaxy level.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Also too in comic 649 the final panel shows not just prime eart or earth 2 superman fighting its shows every other version fighting in the back ground It's every superman version in every reality fight to so it's the same fight.
Voted: Thor

It's a tough battle,but at the end the God of Thunder would destroy the kryptonian
Voted: Superman

i believe, irrespective of magic, superman wins,,i mean??? his faster, definitely stronger and has more endurance. and magic is not a weak ness, its a vulnerability!!! it just means he can be affected by it,,just like every one else. and its not as if Thor is pure magic,,he powers are mostly physical and he has used lightning on stark before but only normal damage was done,,and remember tony can be affected by magic,,even in the comics,,superman won,,,i mean,,all the odds are stacked against Thor...superman wins
Voted: Thor

1. Superman beating Thor was non-canon
2. I'm sorry? "It just means he can be affected by it" You're acting like that doesn't affect him at all
3. Ever heard of a God Blast?
Voted: Superman

close match it would last days but ima good with superman
Voted: Superman

Superman has the advantage in strength, speed, intelligence, power. He wins 7 out of 10 times. The only thing Thor has is combat experience which is not enough of an advantage.
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

No, he really doesn't have the advantage in anything except for speed and intelligence.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Superman has a known vulnerability in magic, so even if he outclasses Thor in everything, he loses in a solo fight. Just the same with Wonder Woman almost beating him in fights, even if not only Supes, but also Thor, outclass her in everything. But I admit Thor could never beat Thanos, but Supes can.
Voted: Superman

Superman has the advantage in strength, speed, intelligence, power. He wins 7 out of 10 times. The only thing Thor has is combat experience which is not enough of an advantage.
Voted: Thor

Superman is an alien "man"! Thor is the "God of Thunder". But don't worry they will create "Superman 1 Billion" and "Superman Armor of Infinity" etc, etc until he is the most boring God of all Superheros.
Voted: Thor

Thor is a God,Superman just an alien
Voted: Superman

Any one? Want to debate this ?
Voted: Superman

Dang C R A P is a bad word ?
Voted: Superman

@SirSpidet even though I'm not even clos to done with my research do you want to do a warm up .(I want actual feats and not that beyonde **** bro)
Voted: Thor

What Beyonder ****?
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

you don't know? RK Thor defeated a group of celestial beings that SirSpidey calls Beyonders (Those who site above in the Shadow)
Voted: Superman

No @electro it wasn't RKT it was Thor he said could defeat a group of beyonders
Voted: Thor

No I never got into Thor, or got in drama with him on the site
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@ManofPower: When have I ever said Thor defeated a group of Beyonders? And sure, let's debate
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@ElectroSpino: In which comic is it said that Those Who Sit Above In Shadow are Celestial beings?
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Umm, that is not a comic. I asked for a comic, not a website
Voted: Thor

Yes but Marvel themselves said TWSAIS are Celestial Beings. I used to think they were Elder Gods but meh.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Did you not read what it said on the bottom of the page?
"Take note, True Believer! This crowd-sourced content has not yet been verified for accuracy by our erudite editors!"

~ Marvel Editorial Staff
Voted: Thor

Oh. lol.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

@SirSpidey are you just ok? In which comics does it says Thoese who sit above in Shadow are the Beyonders?
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Refer back to the Rune King Thor 'message' page
Voted: Thor

@Spidey You edited TWSAIS wiki page right? https://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Those_Who_Sit_Above_in_Shadow_(Earth-616)
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

@SirSpidey and? Like you said every time I want comic book evidence! You can't prove nothing.RKT can be easy defeated by Eternity.And No were writers say TWSAIS are The Beyonders.
Voted: Thor

Woah! When did this happen, I thought I'd never see the day Thor tops Supes since he was so far back in voting
Voted: Thor

Happened a while ago actually
Hadi
92 days ago
Hadi
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Thor

Thor
Voted: Thor

@Spidey Want to compare feats? I mean Thor wins but lets compare feats anyway.
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Superman potentially has the advantage in speed, though I doubt it's vastly different than Thor's, Thor is just not often seen using it or relying on it. Thor is basically Marvel's Superman (of course there are other imitations like Sentry and Hyperion) and was created because Marvel needed someone who could rival the Hulk's strength. Between the two of them Superman has all of the disadvantages though (need to absorb electromagnetic radiation or photons from the yellow end of the spectrum from our white sun and weakness or loss of powers near other radiation [kryptonite, "red sunlight"], and not invulnerable to magic) so if I'm thinking of who would win anytime, anyplace it's Thor, because if Superman is away from our sun long enough eventually he'd lose his powers and even with his powers they're on the same level (we're not even talking about Odinforce Thor or Rune King Thor) . Also, Thor has more experience & is a better combatant...and he lives for the fight, he was bred to be a warrior king...and Supes?...they call him the Big Blue Boy Scout
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

warrior god* king
Voted: Thor

How can people vote Superman?
Voted: Superman

It's a close battle.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

In what ways?
Voted: Thor

Hey, look over there! It's Thor knocking over Galactus! - http://i.imgur.com/WSKJMwx.jpg
He just did it again! - http://i.imgur.com/b7Cwf25.jpg
Oh, look... it's Superman moving some clouds... - http://i.imgur.com/n8xwbu5.jpg
Voted: Thor

Those were shockwaves from his punches.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Hey, what is Thor doing over there? Really? He just defeated Galactus within one blast? Amazing! (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oh13ASSw_Z4/VnpeYkHYT7I/AAAAAAAAPr4/QP74nFgKcLs/s1600-Ic42/RCO019.jpg)
Voted: Thor

@windshadow He will was still moving clouds via shockwaves from HIS punches
Voted: Superman

I believe superman would win his strength is too high for Thor to match up against
Voted: Thor

His strength above Thor? HAHA.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Can anyone prove, using the comics, that Superman would defeat Thor? I have yet to see one person do so. Or just give me a list of his greatest feats and we can compare them to Thor's
Voted: Thor

Thor would beat Superman 5 times out of 10, but in one fight Thor would win.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Thor had trouble against chars like Wolverine, Cap. America and Black Panther over the years cuz of combat speed. And Superman is far far faster, responsive and precise all of those street levelers.
Thor's some attacks has FTL speeds but So Superman has too.
Eventually Modern Age Thor w/o Odin-Force cant injure Superman heavily also he is gonna has problems to tag Superman.
Superman can evade, counter attack or just phase into Thor's attempts.
Superman -> faster, stronger, smarter.
Thor -> More experienced, more endured and has magic.
I'll go with the Supe
Voted: Thor

After doing some research, this is a tough fight. Though thor has his magic and superior experience to Superman, Superman has fought Diana and Shazam, characters with magic and superior experience(not shazam). But thor is superior to these guys too.
So after a hard fight, Thor wins due to his greater versatility, magic and experience to Superman 6/10 times.
Voted: Thor

Over all I like Superman far better then Thor as a character but like should have nothing to do with deciding fight. So looking at both of them this is close. Superman has the speed advantage and Thor's main advantage is magic abilities. This is very close but I give to Thor. Main reasoning is he matches Superman in many areas since taking over as ruler of Asguard, also he is a better combatant with years more experience and has extremely powerful magic abilities.
Voted: Superman

Superman is faster then lightspeed to. Just depends on the writer. He has also beaten Thor in a cross over. Superman has the advantage in this.
Voted: Thor

The crossovers between DC and Marvel are non-canon.
Voted: Superman

Thats irrelevant. If you are talking feats then you pull what is considered fun, sells well and what people remember. The cannon argument does not work since this site literally has JL and Avenergers battle. But aside from that if you look at default Superman and Default Thor, Superman has the edge in every area. Honeslty I think a better match up would be Thor vs Wonder Woman, with Thor having the advantage.
Voted: Thor

That cross over is before Thor took over as leader of Asguard and far less powerful. Thor now has held is own against Galactus and fought the likes of Silver Surfer. While I believe this would be very close I do think Thor takes this barely.
Voted: Superman

So you are saying its Thor once he became leader of Asgard. So we are not going default settings of these characters. Then a counter argument would be pre-52 Superman. He still has the advantage. This comes down to each characters limits and Thor clearly has more then Superman does.
Voted: Thor

Thor fights Silver Surfer to stand still he has held his own for a time against Galactus. His magical capabilities or all at or neat cosmic levels and he has been fighting for centuries. Look I love Superman way better character then Thor but I to fan influences out and only looked at abilities. I do believe this could go either way fight is very very close but Thor would win. However I do also see your reasoning for Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Thor has fought the Silver Surfer 6 times and won 4 and tied 2 due to outwardly intervention. He is vastly more superior to Silver Surfer. Silver Surfer even admitted that Thor's Magic is stronger than his Power Cosmic. And Thor didn't just hold his own against Galactus, Thor literally defeated Galactus within one blast
Jtonks
115 days ago
Jtonks
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Thor

Thor would win 8/10 times, yes superman has speed but don't forget Thor has fought many people who where faster than than him and won, plus Mjornir is faster than light speed which would be a massive boost on Thor winning, and then again Thor has magic which is one of superman's main weakness, then gold blast would just be able to finish him, I like both characters but Thor would Just obliterate him
Voted: Thor

I do not think Thor would win that easily and think 6/10 times is more likely. Superman would use his speed advantage and would not pull punches against Thor. But I believe Thor would win for reasons you listed combat experience and magic capabilities
Voted: Superman

Superman would win
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Superman has solo flare though it slowly kills him.
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Thor 30, superman 28
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Thor 30, superman 28
Voted: Thor

6 / 10 victory. The god blast is in Thor's favour.
Voted: Thor

We have gone from 20 votes away to 6. Come on people
Voted: Thor

Superman is without a doubt one of the strongest ever. Thor on the other hand just has the advantage. Thor has beaten Shazam in the DC Marvel Crossover and that was when Shazam was regarded as equal or stronger than Superman. Super also has a weakness to magic, and Thor's entire attack strategy is based on his magic lightning and his magic hammer, Mjornir. Supes can speed blitz but Thor has been recorded moving at light speed. Eventually they'd reach a red sun which is also a weakness of Superman. Yes, Superman could win. There's just a better chance for Thor.
Voted: Superman

In the crossover Superman beat Thor.
Voted: Superman

Stops the Brainiac Mothership from colliding with Earth, with the help of Martian Manhunter, which was huge
Bench-pressed the Earth's weight for five days with no access to sunlight, also stated he could toss the moon out of orbit
Pushes Warworld into the Phantom Zone, right after being exposed with kryptonite
Casually carries a submarine
Carries a large spaceship into orbit while weakened
Catching an aircraft carrier with Wonder Woman
Stop the watchtower from falling back to Earth
Lifts a ship
Hits Wraith with a large ship
Voted: Thor

That crossover was not canon
Voted: Thor

Lol, "casually carries a submarine". A submarine is NOTHING. Thor has reversed the world engine, which was moving Yggdrasil. the tree that connects the 9 worlds - http://i.imgur.com/NBmQa8j.jpg - Also, speaking of casually, a casual throw of Mjolnir hurt Galactus, who has around galaxy level durability. Now, what do you think is more impressive, harming Galactus who has galaxy level durability, or lifting a submarine, which would have been around 40,000 - 50,000 tons. As for your other feats, none of them equal to harming Galactus - http://i.imgur.com/1WpCk32.jpg
IAmNomad
135 days ago
IAmNomad
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Thor

Superman - 28
Thor - 30
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Thor Wins
DiBart24
143 days ago
DiBart24
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Thor

People need to get over the popularity contest that people make this match out to be. One is a god for a reason. Thor lived in the center of the sun and fought the FROST GIANTS for 9 months straight so that virtually removes the advantages of supes heat vision and freeze breath. Thors hammer is the most devastating weapon from either dc or marvel universes. Its abilities alone outmatch supermans all together. Thor has also fought and defeated celestial beings before so superman wouldn't even be Thors toughest opponent he's ever faced. Thor has also fought the likes of silver surfer and has defeated him and he can move as fast or maybe even faster than superman so the speed difference between the two wouldn't be a huge factor. Finally and I don't think anyone has ever taken this into consideration is that Thors weather manipulation can block the sun with the clouds which is supes source of strength and I'm not even mentioning the possibility that thor gets his hands on kryptonite. Listen i love superman and his selflessness is awe inspiring but this is one match the man of steel doesn't walk away from.
Voted: Thor

Exactly. Everyone who votes for superman just wants him to win. But deep down inside, they know the truth. They just can't get over it.
Akria02
145 days ago
Akria02
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Thor

thor wins
Voted: Thor

Okay that isn't really fair for you but I'm down if you're down!
Voted: Thor

@Mop
Voted: Superman

Alright why do you think Thor wins ? 😊
Voted: Thor

First off, Thor has been shown to move faster than FTL speeds. Being able to reguarly travel across the 9 realms without the bifrost in a short amount of time. Not to mention the 9 realms are totally separate universes, so that means he can move a lot faster than FTL speeds. He has godlike stamina, as he has fought an army of frost giants for 9 months without getting tired. He has thousands of year of experience, weapons training and has the ability to exploit his opponents weaknesses to his advantage. He has also headbutted the Silver Surfer which actually dented him. While Thor only had a bruise
Voted: Thor

He also has magic, one of Superman's biggest weaknesses
Voted: Superman

Well superman has survived Darkseid s omega beams , he has held together a universe , he has sneease away a solar system , he has defeated the Jla and he's defeated shazam who is similar to thor
Voted: Thor

Shazam is nowhere near on Thor's level. And also, I think fighting an army of frost giants for nine months is better than one blast of Darkseid's omega beams. Thor also has the Warrior Madness. An ability which he rarely uses but allows him to go berserk for a couple of minutes which would let him utterly destroy Thor. The god blast and the magic is enough for Superman
Voted: Thor

Also, Superman barely lived Darkseid's beams
Voted: Superman

I admit defeat so quickly lol 😂
Voted: Thor

Well it's better than not admitting to defeat and denying facts / getting angry which was common on CV. Nice debate!
Voted: Superman

Yeah yok are 😎
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Sups surviving the Omega effect twice, is quite impressive considering it can shatter Wonder Woman's bracelets with ease.
Swarm
158 days ago
Swarm
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Superman

Yeah CV can be pretty toxic at times and their formatting wasn't the greatest. The site also kind of looked dull in general. I drifted away from that site years ago.
Voted: Thor

Darkseid's laser beams are not as powerful as the God Blast. So I think the god blast could kill him
Voted: Superman

Actually @Remy94 it was Grails lasers that destroyed The bracelets
And on second thought please don't call me @Mop
Voted: Thor

Haha sorry. Will try do avoid that
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I would have to say that the two attacks are about equal in destructive power, although the Omega beams are capable of more things then the God blast. Superman not surviving the god blast would be correct, due to the fact that he is not invulnerable to Magic.
Voted: Thor

Took the words right out my mouth @remy94
Voted: Superman

Thanks bro
I thought @Mop would sound cooler but then I realized it was a cleaning utensil 😂
Voted: Thor

@Swarm Comic Vine was the place I was about to get invested too but then I found this great discovery luckily lol.
Voted: Thor

@Hawkinz i got sucked into the storm!
Voted: Thor

Lol I'm glad I avoided it then, doesn't sound to appealing.
Voted: Superman

You mean the Star Storm! 😂
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

The Omega Beams have been blocked before. The Godblast has not. How are the Omega Beams as powerful as the Godblast?
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

They have many of the same feats.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Oh, like the Omega Beams being incapable of killing aliens like Superman, while the Godblast is shown being capable of defeating beings like Galactus?
Voted: Superman

@Spidey you are correct the Omega Beams are much much weaker than godblast
The Godblast has harmed galactus
(Even though this isn't canon) Darkseid has blasted galactus with the Omega Beams and they done absolutely nothing
Voted: Thor

I can only laugh on those DC fan boys who think Superman will win bcz Superman cant even beat SHAZAM...
If you find a battle btwn Shaman and Thor on this site you will get Thor as a Winner
Thor is much more powerful than Shazam he is a God...
Superman can only give him a tough fight but at last Thor Will win...
Voted: Thor

I wouldn't call them fanboys. It's their own opinion and everyone has a right to that
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@InfiniteDestruction I can tell we are going to get along very well. I also read your profile, and I can near guarantee you that if that happens I will do my best to help you out. Welcome to the site 😀
Voted: Thor

Thanks man! But I wouldn't worry I've been on here before for about a week a year ago and I don't know why I just stayed other than have to deal with that crap on CV.
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Sweet, it is always good to have another kind person on this site.
Voted: Superman

Bro if your friends with him that means your friends with me welcome to the cool side 😎
Voted: Thor

Thanks! Already a better community than CV
Voted: Thor

The website quality is much better to!
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Hell yeah @ManofPower!
Voted: Superman

Yeyah also y'all can call me @Mop so it shortens my name
With that being said
@Infinitedestruction do you want to join the varosverse
Voted: Thor

I only joined yesterday, so unfortunately not right now. Let me settle in, make some OC's and we'll see what happens!
Voted: Superman

Take your time bro
Remember your with the cool kids 😎
Voted: Thor

Searched the website and found a New-52 Superman, soo I'm guessing this is Post-Crisis Superman? In that case, this battle is a tie
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

It's never been officially determined, but I think the most fair way is to count Superman as a mix of Pre and Post-Crisis. Oh, and by the way, this is Odin Force Thor.
Voted: Thor

Sooo god blast?
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Thor has the Godblast even without the Thor Force
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

The cannon version of Superman is Pre-flash point/Rebirth
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Prove it
Voted: Thor

Just to clear up, is this Post or Pre-Crisis Superman?
Voted: Thor

Sorry, stupid question of mine. What version of Superman is this?
Voted: Thor

That would be a question to ask anyone but me
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

This used to be Post-Flashpoint Superman, but now, since we added New 52 Superman, I'm guessing this is Pre-Flashpoint Superman
Bbq444
160 days ago
Bbq444
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Superman

What if Thor destroys the Sun where Superman could get his energy?
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

If Thor does that he will kill billions of people, and eventually Superman.
Hawkinz
161 days ago
Hawkinz
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Thor

@SirSpidey If this battle were to actually take place, how would you truthfully see it going down? Do you think it'll last for awhile or do you believe Thor simply destroys him early? I'm genuinely curious since this seems to be the most popular battle on this site.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

It would be a complete and utter godstomp. That is if Thor wasn't holding back. If Thor were to hold back, It would take longer, but it would still be a stomp
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

No it would not be a godstomp, Thor has been overwhelmed multiple times by Beta Ray Bill, at the time Bill was no more powerful then Superman.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Beta Ray Bill is vastly more powerful than Superman. While Superman can only shake a single planet with his punches, Beta Ray Bill completely destroys them in one go. As for Thor vs Beta Ray Bill, there first encounter was not fair as Thor was still in communion with his mortal form Donald Blake, so if Thor were to be separated from Mjolnir for more than 60 seconds, he would turn into Donald Blake. Unfortunately, Thor did get separated from Mjolnir for more than 60 seconds which caused Thor to turn into Donald Blake, as previously mentioned, so Beta Ray Bill took advantage and knocked Donald Blake out. In there second encounter, Thor was without Mjolnir and Beta Ray Bill had the advantage because his body was more acclimated to the environment that they were fighting in
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

As I said at the time Beta Ray Bill was no more powerful than Superman, and I do believe it was only after Stormbreaker that Bill was capable of destroying planets.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Yeah, you might be correct
Voted: Superman

Everyone saying Thor is a god is WRONG. Thor is a DEMI-GOD (HALF HUMAN, HALF GOD) Superman is Kryptonian. 0% Human. He is a superior life-form. Superman wins. Literally in strength, speed, combat, Abilities and in everything! Superman doesn't have a weakness against lightning and thunder. So....??? SUPEY WINS
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I don't know what Marvel comics you've been reading, but Thor is zero percent human. Thor is fifty percent Asgardian and fifty percent Elder God.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I do believe although I could be wrong, Thor is regarded as a demigod in ancient mythology.
Voted: Thor

Superman doesn't have a weakness to regular lightning, but he does have a weakness to magic. Thor's lightning IS magic. Superman is weak to it, therefore he would lose.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Superman's weakness to magic is not the only reason he would lose
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Actually it would be one few ways Thor could possibly win.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

As long as Superman has sunlight, magic isn't going to be a factor.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

There are more than only three ways Thor could win. That is an ignorant statement @remy94. In which comic does it state that Superman is immune to magic if he has the Sun?
Voted: Superman

Literally Superman. Anyone can hold Mjolnir who is true of heart and Wonder Woman was one of the heroes who actually was able to carry it and Superman too on the DC x Marvel crossover. Plus thor's Weakness is piercing weapons. Superman wins.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Thor is not weak to piercing weapons. Wonder Woman is.
Voted: Thor

Thor wins 6.5 / 10
Voted: Thor

then y vote superman?
Voted: Thor

I change my mind on this battle all the time. I'm sure my mind will change to Thor in a couple days and i'm pretty sure I'll never have a definitive answer in a while
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

At Superman's maximum potential (sun dipped) he will defeat Thor.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

In that case, we would have to give Thor Rune King Thor as that is his maximum potential
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

That's not the same thing
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

How so?
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Thor is more versatile, has more abilities, with Mjolnir attacks stronger than Superman and his energy projection is far superior to Superman, but Superman's combat speed is higher.
Thor wins 6/10 or 7/10
Galactus
171 days ago
Galactus
Superman vs Thor
10+ years member.
Voted: Superman

We need someone that knows as much about Superman as @SirSpidey knows about Thor. Only then it will be a fair debate.
Voted: Superman

Honestly, lol
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

I think the issue is DC just constantly reboots/ recons Superman, so @SirSpidey excuses most arguments that are made. Which isn't a bad thing. However if Pre-Crisis Superman was included/ cannon I am sure people could think of a lot more arguments for Superman.
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Unfortunately Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster have passed on, so I'm not sure we're going to get that.
Voted: Superman

Not an expert here, correct me if I'm wrong. But they haven't really explored Superman's feats in Rebirth and didn't in 52.
Voted: Superman

Yeah I'm not into rebirth of new 52 in my agreements i bring pre crisis supes if you go down below you'll see that's basically all I was talking about
Voted: Superman

Yeah I'm not into rebirth of new 52 in my agreements i bring pre crisis supes if you go down below you'll see that's basically all I was talking about
Voted: Superman

Yeah I'm not into rebirth of new 52 in my agreements i bring pre crisis supes if you go down below you'll see that's basically all I was talking about
Voted: Superman

Yeah I'm not into rebirth of new 52 in my agreements i bring pre crisis supes if you go down below you'll see that's basically all I was talking about
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Well in that case, expect most people to dismiss your arguments @ManofPower
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Actually Rebirth brought back pre-flash point Superman, after New 52 Superman died.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

When did New 52 Superman die?
Voted: Superman

First I have come back for one purpose and one purpose only. To prove @SirSpidey wrong that Superman is weak. I respect Thor and I give him a lot of credit, like beating Galactus. I will use canon comic book references to give you a list of feats that will prove to all of you that Superman is not as weak as @SirSpidey makes out. I will start as soon as @SirSpidey replies to me.
Voted: Superman

Don't think I have anything against @SirSpidey, he happens to be a pretty cool guy.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

It's not that Superman is weak, it's just that his strength isn't comparable to that of Thor's. Superman's greatest feat of strength is benching the weight of the mere Earth for five days straight. I have done the math and that would come out to be 2.6 octillion tons that Superman was lifting. So while you can actually calculate Superman's greatest feat of strength, there is no possible way to calculate Thor's greatest feat of strength as you would have to figure out how many planets are in the Universe and know how much they way
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

*weigh
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

@SirSpidey Im not sure,but i think Superman also lift infinity.Later i will research 😁
Voted: Superman

Ok put strength on the side for now. I will start with durability.
Superman tanks the Big Bang and destroys an object that can withstand the Big Bang. (Yield: Low Universe Level)
www.comicvine.com/superman/4005-1807/forums/pc-superman-even-can-survival-big-bang-1456568/
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004635-enduresentirecreation.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004637-enduresentirecreation2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004636-enduresentirecreation1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004634-2908743-action553_22.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004639-survivesbigbang1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004638-survivesbigbang.jpg
Voted: Superman

Superman fights Blackstarr, an extremely powerful cosmic reality warper, and tanks the force of a million galaxies. We can calculate the "force of a million galaxies" in many ways. When Blackstarr says the "force of a million galaxies", she most likely means force, in newtons, equivalent to the mass of 1 million galaxies. So we can use Work = Force x Distance to obtain a figure for the feat. (Yield: 2.0704806066321756E59 J, Galaxy Cluster Level+)
Mass of the Milky Way = 1.153359E42 kg.
Force of a galaxy = 1.153359E42 newtons
Force of a million galaxies = 1.153359E48 newtons
Distance that Superman was flung = 1.2 to 2.2 AU, as he was flung so far that he hit the asteroid belt from Earth.
http://s160.photobucket.com/user/EndlessMike9/media/Precrisis/supermansupergirlvsblackstarr5.jpg.html
http://s160.photobucket.com/user/EndlessMike9/media/Precrisis/supermansupergirlvsblackstarr6.jpg.html
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Um, those are not comic books
Voted: Superman

This right here, this is good.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

And, do you understand what canon Is? I'm not excepting any of those feats
Voted: Superman

Yes they are comic books, you just have to take some time and go through them.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

I would rather not waste my time on non-canon scans
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@SirSpidey how do you know someones evidence isn't cannon?
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Because of how old they are. And the forum that @CaptainAmericaTakesAll used to get his argument from even said that it was Pre-Crisis Superman
Voted: Thor

Floyd Spideyweather vs Conor McMerica
Voted: Thor

In my opinion Thor should be a 34 and Supes should be a 20
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Superman is way closer to Thor than that.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

How?
Mattt
175 days ago
Mattt
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Superman

Superman stomps,thor sucks
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Not what the comics dictate
Voted: Thor

fanboy detected(not you sirspidey)
Voted: Superman

@SirSpidey trust me he doesn't read comics. Though you don't need to read comics to know Superman wins.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@batsheet: Lol, that is the most fanboy statement I have ever read
Voted: Superman

"I'm not a fanboy, I'm just stating the facts"
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Prove that what you say is fact
Voted: Superman

Genuine question @SirSpidey, what is Thor best feat for all stats? Intelligence, Strength, Speed, etc.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Let me do this whenever everything settles down. Also, do you want evidence?
Voted: Superman

Would be helpful, sure. I would try to do the same but I have no clue how to find sources and I'm too cheap to buy comics.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

http://readcomiconline.to
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@Darth_Doom: Well for starters, you cannot use the Avengers/Justice League crossovers as evidence because those are not canon. As for the speed of Thor, a ton of people like to reference the time Thor had trouble with Wolverine because that is one of the very few low showings of Thor. It was indeed plot induced stupidity considering the fight took place in Thor vs Wolverine and the only way to please the audience (or Wolverine fanboys) was to make Thor extremely less powerful than he usually is. Lastly, Thor on foot can go faster than light. Thor with the help of Mjolnir can go at speeds that transcend time. That is my opinion on the matter, but I can back it up with comic book evidence if need be
Voted: Thor

Ok did you look at it on the site i have you if so I give up i can't win the debate I've been doing this for some days now first with @IMABATA N 42 THEN you I just can't win it also are we cool
No hard fellings
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Yeah, I looked at it. The guy seemed very biased and only used the low showings of Thor. Yeah, we are cool
Voted: Thor

Oh and I'm not apologizing because your a moderator i put my pride aside and apologized
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Don't worry, everything is fine between us
Voted: Thor

Ok and do you play last of us my dad might play with you I don't feel like playing it right now but he might also I'm trying to get him to join superherodb he's a giant Batman fanboy
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Unfortunately I do not play The Last of Us. Is it any good? I might buy it if it is worth while
Swarm
183 days ago
Swarm
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Superman

It's absolutely incredible. One of the greatest gaming experiences I've ever had, I've played the story at least 7 times and it keeps getting better. I honestly envy you since you get to experience it for the first time whenever you play it.
Voted: Thor

Yeah and I haven't played story mode yet but I've played online and I'm a blog 😀 noob and What s y'all psn mind is DubK72
Voted: Thor

SirSpidey I have a question, even though I agree Thor would win what's the big difference between canon Thor and non canon Thor?
Swarm
183 days ago
Swarm
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Superman

Damn you're lucky too, I can't put into words how great 'The Last of Us', it easily is one of the best stories ever told in gaming.
Voted: Thor

I could have played it I've watched my dad play it numerous times I just don't like story mode but I m might try it and how excited are you about tlou 2 and do you know that lasts of us is one of the most popular games ever up their with a certain mari o game
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Nice! I just might consider buying it. My gamer tag is SirSpidey01
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

@DarkProdigy: While canon Thor decimates beings like Galactus, the Void, a more powerful version of Odin, and even Thanos who was so amped he was equal to Death in power, non-canon Thor gets beat by mere aliens like Superman
Swarm
183 days ago
Swarm
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Superman

@Darth_Doom Damn you have no idea excited I am for The Last of Us 2. Beyond excited, hell like I said I can't put it into words. I've been waiting 5 years for the sequel and yeah whenever you get the chance play the story it's a once in a lifetime experience.
Swarm
183 days ago
Swarm
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Superman

@SirSpidey Alright I'll send you an invite tomorrow.
Voted: Thor

@Swarm do you have a problem with covert 3 my dad complains after complains about it what do you have to say about it
1+ years member.
Voted: Thor

My favorite game is Minecraft
Voted: Thor

Oh and also can you start doing new comments i keep losing the comments you send trying to reply to them
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

Yeah, it gets pretty annoying
remy94
184 days ago
remy94
Superman vs Thor
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Yes there is no need to kick I'm off the site, he just needs to rethink his approach when he comments, and start respecting other people's opinions.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

I'll start respecting others opinions whenever they start using facts
Voted: Superman

Sirspidey yeah good idea for my advice you can start not replying on the people that don't use facts about this battle but reply on the people who actually issue the comic for evidence.
2+ years member.
Voted: Thor

That is a great idea, but not many people actually do reference comics as evidence for their arguments
Voted: Thor

Yeah thank you and can @Galactus kick @SirSpidey off and I believe you I just don't understand this website was made for the fun of debating and learning not disrespecting people and cussing them out I mean I'm going and I've told people that @SirSpidey just doesn't care
Swarm
184 days ago
Swarm
Superman vs Thor
Voted: Superman

@Darth_Doom Why would Galactus kick him off? I'm not trying to get into this but I don't believe he should be kicked off the site just for debating. I mean this site is supposed to fun not sure why you want him off.
Voted: Thor

@SirSpidy is fine he didnt cuss you out and he isnt mean he just wants you to use facts and comics as a reference
Voted: Thor

By kick him off i mean straighten him off and he was to cussing @Remy94 out and talking about a second account t is not debating it's trying to get under his skin and I already said this he has no respect he always has to be right but I don't want him off the server i just want him to stop being disrespectful to us (not me)
Voted: Thor

Yeah thank you and can @Galactus kick @SirSpidey off and I believe you I just don't understand this website was made for the fun of debating and learning not disrespecting people and cussing them out I mean I'm going and I've told people that @SirSpidey just doesn't care
Voted: Thor

Yeah thank you and can @Galactus kick @SirSpidey off and I believe you I just don't understand this website was made for the fun of debating and learning not disrespecting people and cussing them out I mean I'm going and I've told people that @SirSpidey just doesn't care
Voted: Thor

I didn't meAn SPAM that I'm sorry
Voted: Thor

Superman/Shazam First Thunder issue 3
Voted: Thor

@SirSpidey i have a question who wins between sonic or the flash
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Voted: Thor

The Flash
Voted: Thor

My brother wants to know why flash beats sonic i say it's because flash is better in all feats but can you say why so me a nd him don't start please thnks
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Voted: Thor

I don't know. The Flash isn't my expertise
Voted: Thor

Ok thank you
Voted: Thor

Raven as shazam And Mr myxzptlk are except for shazam more powerful than thorn in magic And what what about ra iden dark Khan black ada m Zhao Khan and so on
Voted: Thor

Raven definitely doesn't have more powerful magic. Shazam has equal magic in base but Thor's hammer definitely gives him the edge. If Mr. Mxyzptlk was actually serious in a fight with Superman, Superman would stand no chance whatsoever, Mxy could literally think him away. Do you mean the Mortal Kombat characters, dude, that was a video game. Black Adam may be slightly more powerful than Shazam, but it still doesn't matter. Keep em coming, I can do this all day.
Voted: Thor

And I know she has defeated him before but what about wonder woman magic wonder woman defeated Thor and Diana has more magic and yeah I can keep going to @IMABATMAN42
Voted: Thor

*Screaming on the inside* Why do you keep mentioning Death Battle?!? They do not use even an ounce of factual evidence, literally all they do is say things and expect you to believe them. Look at this for example https://goo.gl/images/KtLsNE if you zoom in on Goku's base speed it is actually greater than it is in SS1, proof that Death Battle did their calculations wrong. Yeah Diana has magic, not projectile magic, like Thor's but she has a magic weapon, that can, wait for it, CUT THROUGH KRYPTONIAN'S. http://imgur.com/a/xOBXe
Voted: Thor

😦🔫 i have no other people left to try and stump you i give up but wait a second this match isn't about Canon this is about overall but your opinion is yours my opinion there hahahahahahaha i enjoyed debating with you my friend 😀😃😁😃😁
Voted: Thor

Wait a second you just said something that means I win you said Diana atom sword cuts through kryptonians just like can barbarians and other beings that means superman can lobotomize Thor and win
Voted: Thor

Actually the sword didn't cut superman throat Diana's bracelet did and also I meant asgardians
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Voted: Superman

Actually there is no noncannon Superman anymore, rebirth we get to see pre-flashpoint Clark Kent return.
Voted: Thor

😤😰😣😥😣😧😱😲😵😷👻 i give up this debate is driving me nuts i can't take it no more y'all no more than I in comic books and I just give up😃😄😃😄😃😄😃😄😃😄😃😄😃😄😃😄😃😄😃😁😁😁😁
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Voted: Superman

Lol
Voted: Thor

Lmao I just can't keep debating I'm going so I don't know as much but come on I'm not stupid i know their common and uncommon known powers Thor has been seen dead by deadpool so I'm just done debating about this match
Voted: Thor

Ok you're not thinking about the time the heat vision would take to reach Thor, by then Thor would have moved, quite a bit actually. Superman will have no choice but to fight him head on, a fight that he will eventually lose. Also, when has Superman ever used this ability, other than that one movie.
Voted: Thor

I'm a couple comics actually but I don't remember the names but I remember reading them and also be has done this on doomsday and since superman has the strength advantage what if he holds Thor down to do it
Voted: Thor

On my God I just saw a comic book that ultrama n lifted the book by himself but still what about a black hole he's held one with his hands and black holes by my knowledge are infinit e density
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Voted: Thor

@IMABATMAN already proved to you that the black hole Superman was holding was just a speck of a full sized one
Voted: Thor

Superman has lifted INFINITY AND ETERNITY HE HAS DESTROYED PLANETS BEFORE AND HAS HELD A BLACK HOLE BEFORE SUPERMAN HAS SURVIVED MAGIC ATTACKS FROM BEINGS WAY MORE POWERFUL THAN THOR
Voted: Thor

First off, the black hole Superman was holding was a SPECK, a SPECK that he was struggling to hold, a SPECK that only had the gravitational pull of a small planet, at most. Oh, look, here's Thor breaking out of a gravitational pull the same as a neutron star,
http://imgur.com/PnBvsUE.
He took magical attacks from beings more powerful than Thor, when exactly? The Eternity feat wasn't Infinite weight, as when Spectre fell, I believe it was Spectre, he did not destroy the Earth. This could've happened for two reasons that I can think of, one gravity doesn't affect Eternity the same as it does other things, or two Eternity's weight isn't Infinite, either way Superman did not lift Infinite weight. With the Infinite book you could say the exact same, as it was floating in the air, so you know gravity doesn't work the same on it.
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Voted: Thor

Superman and Wonder Woman failed to stop Spectre from falling to the Earth and Superman DID NOT lift the Book of Infinite Pages. It was ULTRAMAN who lifted it
Voted: Thor

So I've been lied to cause variant comics and screwattack has said that so it was ultraman and shazam that lifted the book of infinite pages
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Voted: Thor

No. The first attempt was indeed by Superman and Shazam who couldn't even budge the book. Fanboys just like to twist what the comic conveys to fit their fanboyistic desires. That is the only reason you hear people say Superman lifted an infinite amount of weight. However, the second attempt was by Ultraman who managed to actually carry the book to the Ultima Thule, a task Superman and Shazam were physically incapable of doing
Voted: Thor

K thought you guys were done but remember Imabatman superman can focus on the flash moving faster than light speed Thor normally can not to faster than light on earth
Voted: Thor

Superman has never hit the Flash with his heat vision, it's just not fast enough. And everyone keeps saying that Superman can dodge Thor's Godblast, but Thor can do the same to Superman's heat vision, as they are both a one direction beam. Superman also doesn't go faster than light on the Earth, as it would destroy it.
Voted: Thor

But he has and God blast against superman mega heat vision who's power is better also what about lobotomy wouldn't that harm the God of thunder
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Voted: Thor

Of course that wouldn't harm Thor. Anyone with basic knowledge on Thor would know this
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Voted: Superman

Anyone with actual knowledge of these characters, would know that attack would severely harm Thor.
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Voted: Thor

Prove it
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Voted: Superman

Okay, what comic is Thor able to heal any part of his brain?
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Voted: Thor

Thor has never needed to. Nothing has proven to be able to even harm his brain physically
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Voted: Superman

Until now
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Voted: Thor

Prove it
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Voted: Superman

Prove me wrong
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Voted: Thor

I asked you first
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Voted: Superman

Superman can use this attack, now you need prove that it won't work on Thor
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Voted: Thor

Okay, let me repeat myself, a theme that is very common with you @remy94, nothing has proven to be able to even harm Thor's brain physically. So try again
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Voted: Superman

And I said until now, @SirSpidey because there is no reason this attack isn't going to harm Thor
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Voted: Thor

Shall I repeat myself again? Unless Superman is more powerful than three Celestials combined, Superman's cute little lasers ain't gonna do shit to Thor. Lol, "there is no reason this attack wouldn't hurt Thor." Whatever kid
Darth_Doom
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