Goku vs Superman

Kakarot vs Kal-El

Created by: Ayoung23

Character 1

Character 2

136 wins (34.1%)

Goku

Kakarot

23

Powergrid

Intelligence
80
80%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
75
75%
25%
Durability
90
90%
Power
100
100%
Combat
100
100%

uSTATS

22
Intelligence
60
60%
Strength
95
95%
Speed
95
95%
5%
Durability
95
95%
Power
100
100%
Combat
100
100%
Based on 177 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender male
Race Saiyan
Height 5'9 // 175 cm
Weight 137 lb // 62 kg
263 wins (65.9%)

Superman

Kal-El

28

Powergrid

Intelligence
100
100%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
100
100%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
85
85%

uSTATS

16
Intelligence
85
85%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
100
100%
Durability
100
100%
Power
95
95%
Combat
80
80%
Based on 361 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender male
Race Kryptonian
Height 6'3 // 191 cm
Weight 225 lb // 101 kg

Comments

Voted: Superman

Superman sans hésitation
Voted: Superman

Is goku that guy from death battle I don't know who is I'm sorry
Voted: Superman

Supes wins.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Is solar engry limitless
2+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Yeah for some billion years where suns constantly project energy while being millions of times larger than your little planet.
2+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Goku and Superman have equal strength, energy and intelligence, with Superman being a bit more durable, and Goku being a bit faster. Goku's most powerful attacks are not punches or kicks, but rare long range energy blasts. So Superman has to understand that Goku is not dangerous when he is at his best in the blows he trades with Superman, but when he is not focused on the close strikes where Superman will put a ton of effort to prevail, and Goku will be charging Kamehameha. So Superman should use the unorthodox strategy to fly as if he is fleeing when he is not losing, instead of trying to finish off an extremely strong opponent as usual whenever he seems vulnerable. This will allow Superman to be prepared to avoid the Kamehameha that will damage him so much that Goku will seem invulnerable, although he is not. Then Goku will tire in a long fight until Superman will be able to beat him without using constant offense before his opponent could retalitate as in most cases, due to Goku's advantage in speed diminishing. Until Superman changes his tactics which were often effective against other foes that were slower than him, he will always lose, but Goku will not be able to kill him as he will flee with his flight. Goku is faster in attacks but not in movement. So Goku will beat Superman many times before Superman wins the final battle, and kill Goku.
Voted: Superman

Goku losses 7 times out of 10. Plus his intelligence needs to be lowered.
Voted: Goku

Would you like to have a (friendly) debate about this?
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Are we using DBS, DBZ or something else?
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Z and Super.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Ok, Goku wins
Voted: Goku

I can't believe it... you both voted Goku... NANI!?
Dcfan123
130 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Ive called this fight long age
Dcfan123
130 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

The canon is everthing you have alot of reading to do because everthing goku has done superman already did like i said everthing is canon so you have to from were it all started.
Dcfan123
130 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Justice league #40 new 52 everything is canon I win
Voted: Goku

What does that have to do with you winning? No matter the canon Goku wins.
Dcfan123
130 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Superman warped reality/ destroed the the boundaries of space and time with his earth 2 counter part and the same fight was shown through out the infinite multiveres and also there are two definition s of world.
Voted: Goku

Goku's greatest feats-
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Shaking the World of Void, which is infinite.
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http://imgur.com/exVVRn5
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The ability to destroy 1.5 universes in base, then with the additional multipliers from all of his forms, making him 2,160,000x universal, 3x that with the Kamehameha.
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He can fight Jiren who is 4D.
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http://imgur.com/rWPCh5U
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Tanked the Hakai, existence erasure.
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https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4e/02/7c/4e027c3f0a3414eb05cf8fd42c3a4cc4.jpg
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He can use the Hakai, once again, existence erasure
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCh1LcqXgAAL3d_.jpg
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Among other things
Voted: Superman

On your browser type in supermans greatest feats and in the first ten results is where I got my feats from .
And repairing the universe with his heat vision is maybe (Possibly not) means his lasers are universal in terms of Power . And Ultraman and Supes fought and damaged the multimeter (can't find the scan) sule r man has punched ..... PUN CHED through reality literally shattering it
https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
And this scan right here proves why superman beats gok u
https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
Voted: Goku

It doesn't matter what I type in my browser, I can guarantee that none of Superman's feats fall into the Multiversal range. Hell no, Superman repairs a SMALL crack in reality, it is not universal, it is unquantifiable. I'm pretty sure it was Superboy-Prime that shattered reality, and he is vastly more powerful than regular Superman. Also, please stop using Bing, none of the scans you send me from there work...
Voted: Goku

I mean, I can guarantee he doesn't have consistent feats that put him on the multiversal level, he has a few, damaging EJ and Soul Fire Darkseid are the two I know of, but that would be PIS, because NO other feats are on the level of that.
Voted: Superman

Well since the bin g browser isn't working i guess I lose . I can't actually quite comics .
So until I can actually quite comics i won't be able to defeat this debate . Nice debate though .
But like I said super prime and man collided disturbances her the multiverse
Voted: Goku

Wait, so you admit defeat? Also, if Superman and Superboy-Prime actually caused disturbances in the Multiverse, that still wouldn't be Multiversal levels of destruction.
Voted: Superman

Yeah I admit minor defeat . If the scans would of worked impossibly would be won but yeah I admit defeat
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

@ManofPower Why not just use google?
ewwwppl
131 days ago
ewwwppl
Goku vs Superman
Voted: Superman

reading the comments and i wanna drop my 2 cents in. in my personal opinion i think superman would win. but to the superman fans. goku is not weak. and to the goku fans superman is not weak. i see a lot of people saying "goku would one shot supes in base form" or "superman kills goku in seconds" they wouldn't kill each other. they'd probably team up and become the new gods of destruction. honestly silver age superman stomps. cosmic armor is a mega stomp and superman prime one million is a mega stomp as well. as for new 52 and rebirth and some other iterations of supes. SSB would win after a long fight and UI stomps. SS1-SS4 is not enough to beat supes and SSB & UI are gonna be a lot for supes to handle. continue the battles i just wanted to pitch in and let y'all know that this isn't gonna be a stomp fest. there are forms of goku that stomp supes and there's iterations that stomp goku. hate to sound like i'm sucking superman but it really all boils down to which superman is going up against goku.
Voted: Goku

I'm glad that you are giving your opinions, more people need to, but I disagree with a few of your statements. First of them being that SA Superman stomps, he can't, he is highly overrated just because of the blowing away the Solar System feat, which is not impressive as Super Breath is one of his powers. SA is around the Multi-Universal levels of power, I would say he's the most power, but he gets cast aside by Goku, pretty handily. Next thing I disagree with is you saying SPOM stomps Goku, SPOM has no feats, until he gets feats Goku would win. Goku always has access to all of his forms, excluding Ultra Instinct. This is composite Superman, meaning all feats are allowed. (That are actually Superman, unlike Thought Robot, or that are canon and quantifiable, unlike All Star)
Voted: Superman

Strength - Supes has collided fists with supesboy prime and shattered reality in infinite crisis .
His Reaction speed is much slower than his moving speed . Her was able to react to the Flash and Reverse Flash .
Reverse Flash -https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
The Flash - https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights.
His best vision is super hot being able to reignite a star -https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
and has sealed tears in the universe with his heat vision . Can't find the scan for that one .
He's and Diana slowed down the speed of spectre falling . Spectre is literally the embodiment of the universe . https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
Part one
Voted: Goku

Could you give me a scan for the first one please, I was under the impression Superboy-Prime would f*ck regular Superman.
Voted: Superman

Part two
Supes has destroyed a Destroyed ship (shop used by the monitors. They also shot reality warping missiles at him) https://m.imgur.com/a/voGE9
Thanks a blast from booster gold https://m.imgur.com/UFfcDoM
Withstands freaking DEATH https://m.imgur.com/a/WZjjT
Found the c
Scan for him repairing reality https://i.imgur.com/qa9CHtW.jpg
Voted: Superman

Here is the scan for him colliding https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
Voted: Superman

Did i win?
Voted: Goku

Damnit, the scan isn't working, either way, Superman, along with Power Girl And the Lantern Corps, got bitched by Superboy-Prime. Also, I will continue this debate in the morning, goodnight.
Voted: Superman

Goodnight bruh . I'm unstoppable now 😈
Voted: Goku

Hell no you didn't win! This debate is FAR from over. 😉
Voted: Superman

Hehehe. Can't wait til @Daniel sees the new @MoP. I'm a way better debater . Maybe I can debate them or ....... Possibly not 😂
Voted: Goku

Dude, tomorrow you're going to get recked! 😜
Voted: Goku

Also, while I'm still here, all of your scans from "Bing" aren't working :/
Voted: Superman

Here is the website s i got the scans from
https://www.quora.com/DC-Comics-What-are-some-of-Supermans-greatest-feats-achievements
Voted: Goku

Spectre is not the embodiment of the Universe, he is the Spirit of Vengeance. And they not only couldn't stop him, but he obviously doesn't have Infinite weight, if he did he would go straight through the Earth, no matter how much they stop his descent. Booster Gold is not very powerful. Withstanding Death is not impressive, Goku has survived actual existence erasure, not just death. Repairing reality is unquantifiable. Also, that website isn't working.
Voted: Superman

@Spidey are any of my feats acceptable IYO
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

No. I want comics, not out of context scans
Voted: Goku

Strength: Goku can shake 1.5 universe size dimensions in base. He can also swap hands with Jiren, who can physically overpower time, and punch through dimensions. Goku has 4D strength, whereas Superman has, ARGUABLY, Infinite 3D strength, Goku is infinitely stronger.
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Speed: He not only has instant teleportation, but he is 4D, meaning he transcends time, meaning he has infinite speed. Although, his best actual speed feat, is scaling to Beerus who can easily travel from his palace, in the middle of a nebula, which is possibly 24 light years across, then he travels to another galaxy, which is, based off of the Milky Way, 100,000 light years, then back, so he would be traveling 70,129,221.1111x the speed of light since he travels this distance in 1 minute and 30 seconds. While this being less impressive, Beerus did this casually while suppressed, simply because he was going to get food. Whis can also travel across universes and dimensions in seconds, who Goku LOOSELY scales to, although he is slower than him. Also, Goku and Beerus can clash fists and shake the entire universe instantaneously.
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Destructive Capability: I have already proven Goku is 2,160,000x universal, 3x that with the Kamehameha.
Voted: Goku

Lol, whoops, forgot Durability.
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Durability: Goku has tanked complete existence erasure, meaning it doesn't just destroy your physical body, it destroys your soul too. He can also tank hits from Jiren who can overpower time, and punch through dimensions. (Iirc he did)
Voted: Goku

.... Hello?
Voted: Superman

Ok . Supes Has broken carmakers arm (can't find the comic . He's held a miniature black hole which even though small still courts ripped the earth apart . He has traveled to the end of the universe back to earth in around 6 months . That faster than Doctor rates helmet which done the exact same thing in a year . so shoes was going at around twice fates elm too speed . Which was around 5 decillion times the speed of light which means he was going around ten decillion times the speed of light . He survived being sucked into a hypersize black hole and even escaped it . He survived going into the center of one while holdingbrainiac . Sorry couldnt use comics . For some reason I guess I didn't save all of them into my document 😂
Voted: Goku

Lol, wait, who the hell is Carmaker? "Miniature" being the key word, and he was shitting himself doing it, the black hole it self would have the gravitational pull of a small planet. From the end of the universe it would only be 46.6 billion light years, if Superman did it in half a year he would only be 93.2 billion times the speed of light. Where did you get the decillions? Black holes aren't close to universal, so that doesn't really contribute to his durability, especially when going up against Goku, who is millions of times past universal. (This is the first part of my comment, next comment will be me giving you Goku's feats 😉)
Voted: Superman

*Darkseids arm . Black holes are actually universal ! They are able to feed off space and trancesnd time. They (if big enough) could destroy a universe .Ingot the decillions from death battle . SO....... Also he survived Omega beams >>>>>>>>>>>God Blast😉
Voted: Goku

If they get big enough yes they can be, but the ones Superman survived were no where near that caliber. Smh, Screw Attack is constantly wrong 🙄. Uh.... any proof? Omega Beams can be survived by Wonder Woman, the Godblast can damage Galactus (and annihilate Superman thousands of times over) I think your getting Omega Beams, confused with the ACTUAL Omega Effect.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

ManOfPower! Wants to square dance with me! SirSpidey! Wants to square dance with me! LordTracer! Wants to square dance with me! Dark Prodigy! Wants to square dance with me! Soratoumiga! Wants to square dance with me! IMABATMAN42 Won't square dance with me! IMABATMAN42 Won't square dance with me! IMABUTTMAN42 don't want no part of me! THENEMIANLION! Wants to square dance with chu! YEEEEEHAAAAAR!
Voted: Goku

I... There's.... someone else.... I'm sorry 😭
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Wha... When did this... Huh? *Remembers Jongensoden saying "He tasted like cherry"... NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Voted: Goku

I... I should've told you sooner 😟
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

First, you take out my son, then you turn my other son into a Dolphin! Now you do this? What did I ever do to you? I'm going to get you Shark Slayer!
Voted: Goku

I'M SORRY!! 😭
Dcfan123
133 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Imabatmanfan42 there will never be a true answer this fight will go on for ever YouTube says goku wins the internet says Superman it only ends we're it begins so this fight is pointless until some fine a one true answer.
Voted: Superman

Alright bro I'm leaving see you in a few (maybe more) hours
Voted: Goku

Alright? But this debate is not over.... 👋
Voted: Goku

I want to end this once and for all, someone debate me, pls.
Voted: Superman

I've researched shoes a lot and I'm ready @Bats
Voted: Goku

Finally! Fite me!
Voted: Goku

You must've found a lot of info on "shoes" XD
Voted: Superman

Yes . Also I'm moving around my house so I'll be off an on . But you first
Voted: Goku

Wait, we need to make a few rules:
1. The anger that we get here can't be taken to real life or other places on this site
2. First to admit defeat loses
3. Whoever loses must vote for the actual winner (Goku/Superman)
4. Morals off
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Do you agree with these?
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I want to fight you irl... XD
Voted: Goku

I'm a pacifist... I'LL VERBALLY DESTROY YOU, THOUGH
Voted: Superman

Ok bro . I agree with everyone except Morals off . Supes will literally kill goku in a matter of seconds
Voted: Goku

I disagree. Superman is both not fast enough and not powerful enough to one-shot Goku.
Voted: Superman

No.... Definitely not a one shot . But if they are both blood listed supes wins rather easily . But not a stomp
Voted: Goku

No possible way, Superman isn't capable of doing that to a Multiverse buster, jut to get this out of the way, I'll do it now. Goku with his God Form, is roughly 1.5x universal as he and Beerus threatened to destroy 3 universe size dimensions, then he absorbs that power into his base, then after training he gets roughly 3x stronger, making him 4.5x universal. After that the multipliers of SS1, 2, and 3, add up to 400x that, which is 1,800x universal. Then SSB, which makes him unquantifiably stronger, but let's say 10x to low ball, so that would make him 18,000x universal, then with Kaioken x20 it makes him 20x stronger, so 360,000x universal. Last but not least Ultra Instinct, which is probably a 6x multiplier, he was getting fondeled by a suppressed Jiren, then he fondled Jiren, so at least 6x, so, 2,160,000x universal. (3x that with the Kamehameha)
Voted: Goku

Uh, hello?
Voted: Goku

Ready?
Voted: Superman

Superman would win. Also Goku's intelligence should be much lower.
Mohamed
152 days ago
Mohamed
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I Vote Superman.
IAmNomad
162 days ago
IAmNomad
Goku vs Superman
Not voted yet

Goku - 23
Superman - 28
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Superman Wins
ywacch
188 days ago
ywacch
Goku vs Superman
Voted: Goku

I dont understand how superman is faster than goku. The fastest speed superman has ever reached is nothing to goku's instant transmission
Voted: Superman

Cause teleportation isn't speed
Goku normally can't go faster than 12 million faster than light
Superman goes way way faster
Voted: Goku

In SPEED they mean how fast they can move from one place to another. And goku's speed is instantaneous.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Teleportation is a form of flight it's basically flight speed goku has to find a ki energy and then teleport there. Unlike Superman who flys there is a feat we're he flew faster than infinite so no goku isn't faster than goku.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

DCFan123 steals all my feats... 😟 (EXPOSED)
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Lmao
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Sorry I found that out by going the the superpower wiki😊
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

No but seriously, I've used all of the feats he claims first... 😟
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Nemian read your profile messages
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Come to me for feats first.
Voted: Goku

Alright, Time to get down to business. HEAVY spoilers for DBZ-DBS and A WALL of text. So scroll down to the bottom for my final answer. [Spoiler]Goku as a SSJ3 in the buu saga, was on par with kid buu. Kid buu is a galaxy buster. So goku is a galaxy buster in ssj3, and according to raditz's scouter in the saiyan saga, the kamehameha uses 3 times your normal power if it isn't charged for very long, meaning a medium strength ssj3 kamehameha from goku is triple galaxy busting. When he becomes a god, he cancels beerus's punch which would've destroyed the ENTIRE UNIVERSE had it not be canceled out by goku. And then he absorbs god form into his base. Meaning that in his base he can destroy a universe with a punch. And bust 3 of 'em with a kamehameha.
After fighting with beerus he learns to tap into SSJG on his own by training with WHIS. After training with whis and going ssjg we have no idea how strong/weak SSJG is. All we know is it is FAR superior to SSJ3 So lets use SSJ3's multiplier(300) and call this a lowball. In super saiyan god he would be able to bust 300 universes with a punch and blast away 1,500. Then after going BLUE.
He would become 50 times that(As blue is Super saiyan god with super saiyan) and become 15,000 universe busting with a punch, 30,000 with a kamehameha. In the tournament of universe 6 and 7 He had already trained to become ten times as power as he already was. Meaning he is now 150,000 and 300,000, with his punch and kamehameha respectively. During the tournament of universe 6. We learn that he can tap into kaioken with SSJB up to ten times. And in the Tournament of power,
he becomes 20 times. So now he can do 1,500,000 with a punch and 30,000,000 with his kamehameha. 30,000,000 universes busted with his blast.THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE. And people say he would be beaten by superman without a thought.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Everything you just said superman already did powerlevels in dragonball make sense but not in the dc infinite universe so goku taking out 3 universe is nothing compared to superman warping /shattering space and time in one fight goku is only universel superman is infinite multiverse
3+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I hate it when Dragon Ball fans just throw in random numbers to scale their characters. None of this is official, therefore its not true. Superman shits on Goku because he split the moon in half when angry which was half of his power times that by two and he's a double moon buster haha fuck you
Voted: Goku

@Dcfan123: You say he shattered space/time in an infinite multiverse, when? You literally have no evidence that he did, that still doesn't make him Infinite-Multiversal as you claim. If he was Infinite-Multiversal he would have completely destroyed the Multiverse. Also, when is it stated that it is infinite?
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Read adventures of Superman issue #649 and read then come back fight
Voted: Goku

Black Holes take up space and have mass, they are not anywhere close to being infinite.
Voted: Superman

https://www.space.com/1976-black-hole-puts-dent-space-time.html
Voted: Goku

Still not infinite. And the black hole mentioned 7 times larger than our sun, the one Superman was holding was the size of a speck.
Voted: Superman

Sti ll a black hole turns atoms into spaghetti and even if the black hole was a speck of would still be as powerful as a large one the only difference is that a large one is bigger so reaches farther but light can't escape a small one like a big one it was literally ripping the atoms off of superman three why he was struggling
Voted: Superman

Sti ll a black hole turns atoms into spaghetti and even if the black hole was a speck of would still be as powerful as a large one the only difference is that a large one is bigger so reaches farther but light can't escape a small one like a big one it was literally ripping the atoms off of superman three why he was struggling
Voted: Goku

It wouldn't be near as powerful as a large one.
Voted: Superman

Idk just heard an hour it at school
Voted: Superman

Idk just heard an hour it at school
Voted: Superman

New comment chain
Still the density of made him struggle
Voted: Superman

Alright I'm going to ignore this battle I'm not arguing over who wins it's going to end up a lot like Thor vs superman and also I don't know that much about goku but I definitely no supes is stronger i know goku is a lot faster and also what s the difference between power and strength
Voted: Goku

Power is basically just energy output, Goku easily defeats Superman in this one, Becca Goku shook the World of Void with his power, The World of Void is Infinite, btw.
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http://imgur.com/exVVRn5
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Superman shook an infinite multiverse
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Superman punched through a dimensional barrier, Superman tanked a blast from Imperiex, and then after he was sun dipped brought Imperiex back to the Big Bang, 14.8 billion years ago, Superman survived, Imperiex didn't.
Voted: Superman

Thank you somebody understands instead of me and @DcFan123
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Also, Superman fought against Soulfire Darkseid, who is Multi Universal - Multiversal.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Don't you just hat when people who know nothing of Dragon Ball or DC try to wank their Dragon Ball and do anything to lowball DC? They take their lowest showings ever, it's cute, if DC did that, Goku would be Room Level.
Voted: Superman

Yeah but @IMABATMAN42 knows stuff I did not know about the shadow moon feat
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

He knows his stuff when it comes to Naruto, he doesn't when it comes to Superman, the Shadow Moon thing was an outlier, it was seriously one of Superman's low end feats.
Voted: Superman

Yeah I guess your right
@IMABATMAN you know your possibly the anime guy on here
Voted: Goku

Eh, I agree @TheNemianLion, but you still gotta admit it knocked him out. And he was struggling to hold a black hole the size of a speck. Oh, and thank you for the compliment😊
Voted: Goku

Lol
Voted: Superman

But you gotta understand a black hole has infinite density even though it was a speck he still was holding a black hole it's gravitational pull which is one thing and then the density of course supes is going to struggle
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

It knocked him out because it was an outlier, Superman felt pain because it was a low end feat, and it was compressed on a very small section of his hand, it's like a human with a Bee sting, except that sting is ripping apart your atoms, if the weight was spread out throughout his whole body, he wouldn't of moved.
Voted: Goku

The black hole had the gravitational pull of a planet, a small one at that.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

On the square micrometer of his palm, 2,060,000 micrometers in the surface area of a human body, that's not counting any of the thickness of the skin, muscle mass, bones, organs, etc, Superman could probably of taken hundreds or thousands of that number, potentially a black hole of a solar mass of a thousand or more.
Voted: Superman

The black hole was growing in his hand he was compressing it also someone called the MNemon was messing with his head
Voted: Superman

The black hole was growing in his hand he was compressing it also someone called the MNemon was messing with his head
Heep
195 days ago
Heep
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Six zeros are missing somewhere in the messages chain.
Voted: Superman

What d oes that mean
Voted: Goku

Oh, you wanna know the specific comic where he struggled? JLA issue number 77. This was where he struggled to hold a black hole.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Which one there like 50 justice league teams with the same name
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Read it still didn't see any struggles or him having any weaknesses to the black hole
Voted: Goku

Oh, please, he was screaming in agony. Saying it was ripping his hands. This black hole was the size of a speck.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Still the comic says nothing about him having limits so you think him struggling to hold a Black is a limit but goku going ssj1 on 40tons is nothing.you also think him shaking the Dragonball universe beats Superman since superman already did it in his universe which was 4 comics long. I think your the one who hasn't read comics and only watch the anime of Dragonball ,your one with no info ,your the one with nothing just one feat I've brought plenty of points but since your Dragonball fan you think goku beats everyone.thats the reason why superman is winning because true fans know the true.
Voted: Goku

Seriously? I don't THINK Goku can beat everyone, I KNOW he can! (I'm kidding don't worry) But, no, in all seriousness, the comic doesn't state he has limits?!? The pure fact that he was in agonizing pain holding the black hole shows he has limits, if he didn't he would hold it no sweat.
Voted: Superman

Still the density of the black hole is what was holding him also black holes transcended space and time
Voted: Superman

Still the density of the black hole is what was holding him also black holes transcended space and time
Voted: Superman

Still the density of the black hole is what was holding him also black holes transcended space and time
Voted: Goku

XD; Where the hell did you find that black holes transcend time and space?!? If it did A. It can't because then it would be a pocket dimension or a universe and B. Because Infinite space would take up all existence.
Mattt
198 days ago
Mattt
Goku vs Superman
Voted: Superman

Who honestly believes that Goku would win in this instance? Like what does he do that is better than superman? I do not understand. I am genuinely baffled.
Voted: Goku

Speed, combat, power, and strength. Those are just the obvious ones, the rest are kinda arguable, them being intelligence and durability, Superman obviously takes intelligence, but Goku probably takes durability.
Voted: Superman

Superman has survived the omega beams which no otherbeing has survived that except doomsday and that's only cause of his immortality but superman takes durability and intelligence like you said and a lso SUPERMAN can lift more than goku
Voted: Superman

Superman has survived the omega beams which no otherbeing has survived that except doomsday and that's only cause of his immortality but superman takes durability and intelligence like you said and a lso SUPERMAN can lift more than goku
Voted: Goku

Lifting and striking strength are two comepletly different things. Superman has more lifting strength, Goku has more striking strength. Goku has survived around Hakai energy before, it being the energy of destruction, it erases anything it comes into contact with. Here is Goku tanking it.
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Voted: Superman

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Voted: Goku

So maybe their durability is equal, since you can't definitively prove which out of Hakai and Omega Beams is more powerful.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Hakai ability can't kill darkseid only radion a metal can kill darkseid because darkseid is immortal
Voted: Goku

That's like saying that The One Above All couldn't kill Darkseid, which he can.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

The one above all and the Presence are the same person just in two different universes. The Dragonball wiki clearly states that the hakai attack doesn't kill immortals prove me wrong on this.
Voted: Goku

Darkseid can die, just not by natural means.
Voted: Goku

Also, how the hell are The Presence and The-One-Above-All the same character? Their just omnipotent beings in their own Omniverse.
Voted: Superman

Actually dude I agree you know it's possible very God in their own Omniverse is God
Y ou see
One above all = presence = Arceus is all the same their based of of Jehovah the God
Voted: Superman

Actually dude I agree you know it's possible very God in their own Omniverse is God
Y ou see
One above all = presence = Arceus is all the same their based of of Jehovah the God
Voted: Superman

Actually dude I agree you know it's possible very God in their own Omniverse is God
Y ou see
One above all = presence = Arceus is all the same their based of of Jehovah the God
Voted: Goku

Alright, Time to get down to business. HEAVY spoilers for DBZ-DBS and A WALL of text. So scroll down to the bottom for my final answer. [Spoiler]Goku as a SSJ3 in the buu saga, was on par with kid buu. Kid buu is a galaxy buster. So goku is a galaxy buster in ssj3, and according to raditz's scouter in the saiyan saga, the kamehameha uses 3 times your normal power if it isn't charged for very long, meaning a medium strength ssj3 kamehameha from goku is triple galaxy busting. When he becomes a god, he cancels beerus's punch which would've destroyed the ENTIRE UNIVERSE had it not be canceled out by goku. And then he absorbs god form into his base. Meaning that in his base he can destroy a universe with a punch. And bust 3 of 'em with a kamehameha.
After fighting with beerus he learns to tap into SSJG on his own by training with WHIS. After training with whis and going ssjg we have no idea how strong/weak SSJG is. All we know is it is FAR superior to SSJ3 So lets use SSJ3's multiplier(300) and call this a lowball. In super saiyan god he would be able to bust 300 universes with a punch and blast away 1,500. Then after going BLUE.
He would become 50 times that(As blue is Super saiyan god with super saiyan) and become 15,000 universe busting with a punch, 30,000 with a kamehameha. In the tournament of universe 6 and 7 He had already trained to become ten times as power as he already was. Meaning he is now 150,000 and 300,000, with his punch and kamehameha respectively. During the tournament of universe 6. We learn that he can tap into kaioken with SSJB up to ten times. And in the Tournament of power,
he becomes 20 times. So now he can do 1,500,000 with a punch and 30,000,000 with his kamehameha. 30,000,000 universes busted with his blast.THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE. And people say he would be beaten by superman without a thought.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Speed: goku has little feats to suggest hes beyond superman, superman went faster than infinity Strength: superman lifted many planets at once, and ripped a hole in reality twice with a single punch, goku couldn't achieve this even with the help of Beerus and multiple strikes Durability: this ones obvious, superman took the equivalent of a couple hundred supernovas rapid fire, goku just simply has not shown he can take something even close to that. Intelligence: superman is a genius, and has access to tech far beyond our own, Goku however has had not formal education. Fighting Skill: This is where Goku really shines his technique and fighting prowess makes him one of the deadliest opponents in fiction when concerning h2h combat. Overall superman wins 9/10 having much better physicals and with no new forms past ultra instinct mastered, goku cant scream his way out of this one
Voted: Superman

Superman kicks donkey
Voted: Superman

Ok goku vs superman I'm going with superman i not that familiar with everything goku can do but no looked him up and from my 3 hour research on goku and superman superman power beats goku sure goku can defeat God's but so can superman goku can travel faster than light so can superman goku is basically a giant magic ripoff of superman superman beats does like darkseid Thor shaman black ada m and more I'm pretty sure he can take a human sonic the hedgehog on there no offense that's my opinion so no need to argrue there
Voted: Goku

How is Superman's power greater than Goku's? When Superman has an Infinite display of power, say shaking an Infinite world, let me know.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Infinite crisis #5 superman shook the infinite multiverse which is canon buy the because of Phil Jimenez
Voted: Goku

Just because it happend, doesn't mean he could do it again. This is because he's just not at that same level of power anymore.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

He been on a level far beyond goku, goku is universe + superman is infinite multiverse + he could do the same feat again they just don't another Superman to fight him again maybe the injustice universe might do the same.
Voted: Superman

Should I remind you of superman prime one million or thought robot superman a
Voted: Superman

Also tell me who has faced more powerful foes goku or superman answer superman
Superman has fought foes way stronger than you'd
Superman sure isn't faster bu uuuuuuuutt he's somewhat stronger also
Goku can't really harm him w it th a kamihamiha thing it's it I'm thinking correctly a lot of folks power can only hurt people who are bad just like ghost riders penac e stare
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

@IMABATMAN42
What a dumb statement... Just because it happened doesn't mean it could happen again... By that logic, anything Goku does that doesn't mean he could do it again, in fact, he can barely lift 40 tons and he gets killed by a later... See what I mean? Stop trying to deny facts, Goku is Universal with Ultra Instinct, but Superman is Multi-Universal.
Voted: Goku

Differences though, shaking an Infinite multiverse, hmm, struggling to hold a black hole the size of a speck. He is not powerful enough to be multi-universal, feats say he isn't and basic common sense says he isn't. Why do you say he is?
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

So you never read infinite crisis superman. By you saying that clearly means you doubt he did it making it seem that goku can kamhamway a universe in one blast, when superman sneezed one away.look up the picture to infinite crisis superman in the back ground all versions of him through out the multiverse are fighting the same fight goku can't even Jiren in ultra instinct because he ran out of ki.Also if goku doesn't have limits like every fan says he has he would need to use his Saiyan forms,last I check did he have to break a limit to get those forums which means he has limits when superman doesn't he just holds back.
Voted: Goku

@Dcfan123 I don't doubt that he did it, I "doubt" that he could do it again. Goku didn't run out of Ki, he ran out of time with his new form Ultra Instinct. Please, please, give me evidence of Superman not having limits, they both do have limits. Give me a scan that current Superman is even near multi-universal, please I would love to see it.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Read his comics that's my scan
Voted: Goku

@Dcfan123: You still haven't proven that Superman has no limits.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

The comics are my proof you just don't read them if you did you being s seeing what I'm seeing
Voted: Goku

You still haven't proven your argument. It doesn't matter what the writers intended, Superman has shown that he struggles with things, thus having LIMITS.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

In what comic store does he struggle in did you read any
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

That Superman book was written by the writers to say that they tried to give him limits but can't because he's superman not goku
Voted: Goku

Him getting KNOCKED OUT by destroying the shadow moon, which is only a star level feat.
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Please, he doesn't struggle? You're the one who should stop by the comic store and read some.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Stop usein comic-vine for answers and I do read comics readcomicsonline is a wedsite that allows you to read all the comics of dc marvel even up to today I've bee reading injustice 2 they comic with new issues every week I'm about to start reading the old comics of Superman batman and Wonder Woman.so like I said use the comics to tell me he's has limits
Voted: Superman

Hey bro you can give me the direct link to that comic book fr ee online thing I would love to read a comic
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

http://readcomiconline.to/Search/Comic
Voted: Superman

Ok goku vs superman I'm going with superman i not that familiar with everything goku can do but no looked him up and from my 3 hour research on goku and superman superman power beats goku sure goku can defeat God's but so can superman goku can travel faster than light so can superman goku is basically a giant magic ripoff of superman superman beats does like darkseid Thor shaman black ada m and more I'm pretty sure he can take a human sonic the hedgehog on there no offense that's my opinion so no need to argrue there
MisterB
220 days ago
MisterB
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

If the fight is a best 5 the first 3 wins Superman.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

That's pretty true
3+ years member.
Voted: Superman

And like, where did you hear this? It's never stated in Dragon Ball ever.... it's made out of Ki, you know like drawn from Goku's own power.... like his power doesn't come from uv radiation, it's Ki, from inside, so uhhhh, don't say shit you don't know....
3+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Why the hell did my reply reply to this and not another comment???
Dcfan123
220 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Like I said before the writers make superman a god in his comics. Akira Toryamima mad it to were goku is the underdog Seththeprogrammer said that the fight is "impossible" to say that goku will beat superman. Because the writing style of Superman is ment for him not have limits were in Dragonball goku does have limits that's why he gets a new form everytime and also akira toryamya said goku would lose to goku in a interview.
Voted: Goku

Na, Seth said that Superman was so damn inconsistent with each writer, some making him, well, basically a god, others making him barely planet level. And if you're gonna reference Seth's videos he also believes Goku would win.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Also fyi the Ki Blast that Goku uses is a form of UV light so that would juat power up Superman so Goku is screwed either way
Voted: Goku

Na, it's made out of Ki.
3+ years member.
Voted: Superman

It's not a "form of uv light" it's made up of Ki... where'd you hear that from? Superman fanboy youtubers? That's never been stated in Dragon Ball ever..... It's a Ki blast made up of Ki
Dcfan123
226 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

New 52 superman 2011
Precrisis superman
Rebirth superman 2016
Dragonball z goku
Dragonball super goku
Dragonball goku
Voted: Goku

At this point I've given you evidence and my reasoning as to why I think Superman would win, you've provided me with insignificant feats along with other people's opinions, and your reasoning is basically just "Superman can beat anyone because he's Superman."
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

That how superman was written supes is ment to unrelatedable he ment not to have limits if the people of DC have heard of this battle they probably write superman to take out goku in one hit Akira Toriyama had goku be the underdog but like I said it depends on what universe there fighting in
Voted: Goku

Then the writers are failing at their jobs, because Goku would win.
Voted: Goku

Also, Superman does have limits, if he didn't he would have never been killed by Doomsday.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Doomsday superpower kicked in reactive adaptation allows him to counter all of Superman's powers besides there was a second fight superman wasn't killed he was put in a healing coma came back and fought doomsday a 2nd time it doesn't say anywhere in the comic about him having limits so superman is limitless due his writers
Voted: Goku

Him getting beat is proof he has limits and can be damaged by physical damage, not just magic and Kryptonite.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Do you not know what reactive adaptation means because thats how doomsday was able to beat him. The comic says nothing of him haveing limits goku has limits du to running out ki againt kid buu and ultra instant ran out againt jiren and goku has died how many times 3 to 4 time so yeah 1 death is cleary better than 1
Voted: Goku

Except Goku grows in strength, Superman is usually never shown growing in strength, with the same writer, that is.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Even if goku grew in strength superman will always written to not have limits goku will have new form everytime that.That superman book that says he has limits is wrong due to the dc multiverse being rebooted in 2011 and now rebirth and thanks Phil Jimenez everything is now canon so superman warping/shattering the infinite multiverse
Voted: Goku

Let's take this fight through the ages of comics:
Golden Age:Goku
Silver Age/Bronze Age:Superman
Modern Age:Goku
Voted: Goku

This was taking the fight through the ages of comics, btw. Plus I put golden age with silver age, when I should have had it individually. Goku wins golden age too, which means Goku would beat every single incarnation, with ease, I might add, except silver age, he would still win against silver age, don't get me wrong, but it wouldn't be as easy, maybe mid/high difficulty.
Voted: Goku

Superman has WAAAAY too many wins at this point.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I know right
Voted: Goku

So then why did you vote for superman?
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Because I superman as the better hero of the two goku doesn't save people he just s fights people instead of saving the world he fights theme instead. Superman is willing to die for everyone even batman superman is and always will be "Hope" of the the universe
Voted: Goku

Gokus Immortality, Speed and Strength is too much for supes imo
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

superman is a better fighter
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Experience and intelligence beats goku because goku is an idiot
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

and supermans durability is higher
Voted: Superman

I don't know if I agree with the Goku is a better fighter thing but I agree with the other points
Dcfan123
228 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/4/43/Superman_-_Infinite_Crisis.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/779?cb=20160405153425 This image destroys the goku shaking universe feats
Dcfan123
238 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

The quote I gave you was from the dragonball wiki from a actually fans when then try to settle if you think I'm lying type in"can goku beat superman" and it comes up everytime
Voted: Goku

People are quoting Death Battle then, it's exactly what Death Battle said. Death Battle did their calculations wrong, and they were using dbz version of Goku instead of super.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

It was written in December 25 2012 a year before the death battle released its battle so no its not quoting death battle an actual fan said that like I said type in "can goku beat superman" find the quote and its December 25 2012 prove me wrong on this
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

superman can heal from all the power attacks
Voted: Goku

That was using DBZ Goku, not Super. Dragon Ball Super Goku would absolutely destroy Superman. Please, give me a canon feat where Superman has ever, ya know shaken an Infinite void with his power, or has been stated to be able to destroy the universe. Like when has Superman even shown near the capability, in canon, to shake or even destroy the Universe?
Voted: Goku

Also, that quote is not from that forum, it's from Death Battle.
Voted: Superman

@Dcfan123 soo what one fan, death battle and what you search on google says Superman wins and that's your proof that he wins? Also don't you dare say that more people voted for Superman because if that is the reason you voted for Superman then you have no knowledge of this battle and you shouldn't of voted. Don't mean to come off rude
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

No people voted for Superman because they new he would win goku hasn't even hit 100 i called the fight the minute superman hit 200.And to you Corvus_Glavie type in "can goku beat superman" it's been up for 6 year it's was written in December 25 2012 a mouth before the fight which was in January 19 2013 so this one fan proved the fight and last I checked it can from the Dragonball forum
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

IMABATMAN42 you say its death battle, death battle aired the first fight in January 19 2013 that article was written December 25 2012 a mouth befor the fight some guy named Dark wrote it and it's been up for six years and this said the before the the battle was aired so no he's not quoting death battle you are because you never looked up
Voted: Goku

You haven't provided any evidence for why you think Superman would win, you just gave me someone else's opinion, and they didn't give any evidence either, so please if your going to say false things, at least try and back it up with evidence.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Says the one who thinks shaking the universe is anywhere close to as impressive as destroying it, it though it took the combined power of Beerus and Goku 5.5 punches to do it, also a KameHameHa, which is like equivalent to 30.
Voted: Goku

I agree that it's not that impressive, but when has Superman, in canon, done any thing close to that? And at least I provided evidence as to why I think Goku would win, as did you for why Superman would win, but @Dcfan123 hasn't provided any evidence at all, he is using other people's opinion to backup his argument, not feats or facts.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Dude, sincerally Goku in Super ir weaker than Goku in Dragon Ball Z. At the beginning of Dragon Ball Super Goku was asking himself in the next episode preview if Beerus could really destroy a planet and Beerus had just defeated him Super Saiyan 3... At least in Super Saiyan 1 Dragon Ball Z Goku could surely blow up a planet. Goku in Super Saiyan God wasn't able to escape an explosion in the fight against Beerus (Beerus even taunt him for it and starts saiyng he's bored) while in Z Freeza Saga Goku, at his base form, managed to escape a much more powerful explosion easily (Piccolo then quoted Goku was a monster as he appeared behind him). To finish it: in Dragon Ball Super Anime and Manga Goku got hurt by a bullet. You know what does that mean? That in his base form he's not as fast as the bullet... In Revival of F written by Akira himself Goku in Super Saiyan Blue nearly died by a lazer shot dude... point is: Goku in Super is much more nerfed and Goku neither in Z, GT, Nekomajin, The Movies, Arale or even video games and the classic manga are strong, fast and durable enough to fight the main Continuity Superman or most of his incarnations.
Voted: Goku

Yo, have you been keeping up to date on DBS because Goku has gotten tons stronger. He unlocked Ultra-Instinct, he shook the World of Void which is Infinite, and he fought pretty evenly with Jiren who scared the gods, I could mention more but I don't really think I have to, I've proved my argument.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

First off goku didn't even beat Jiren he had to had help from frieza and Android 17, second goku shook a void were did that come from that's right infinite crisis #5 superman Warped a multiverse and broke time and space with his earth1 counterpart , third ultra instinct has a time limit goku s body couldn't handle it and he didn't master it due to it wearing off,plus rebirth Superman has all the power of new 52 superman and also I have yet to see goku push earths weight without a sayain form.
Voted: Goku

Dude that feat isn't canon.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

So it's till a feat that Superman did also this superman new 52 pushed earth wight for five days without the sun rays hitting him. So my theory was put superman in the hyperbolic time chamber with out the suns rays again then put goku in the earth multipler machine and have him push earth wight but goku can can't use any of his sayin forms not even ultra instinct to push earth wight.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

superman wins he survived in antarctica
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

According to Phil Jimenez everything in the dc universe is now canon so the feat of Superman warping reality and breaking both time and space with is earth 2 counterpart is now canon thanks Phil Jimenez
Voted: Goku

Goku has been stated to be able to destroy the universe, do you know how insignificant carrying 1/3 of the weight of the Earth is compared to destroying the universe?
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Superman warped a multiverse and still pushed earth wight goku was in god form have him push earth in his base form.
Dcfan123
238 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I like how everyone in db uses power over everything when dc uses intelligence,speed durability,power and combat to tell how they beat there enemy. In Dragonball is all power and now skill.
Voted: Goku

That's not true, well in a sense power is very important, but DB also uses intelligence, speed, durability, power, and combat
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Like I said before this from a fan when you look up "can goku beat superman " and it pop up ever time.while goku is extremely powerful, he would not be able to even hurt superman whose only weakness is magic and kryptonite. goku cannot use magic and if anything, the ki blasts are a form of uv light which would help superman. the only way he could defeat superman would be with the powerpole. And also when has goku ever show signs of intelligence in any of the anime's and manages
Voted: Goku

That's what Death Battle said, and they're idiots that have no idea what they're talking about.
Voted: Goku

And if that was the case then Superman would've never been killed by Doomsday, and he wouldn't have trouble fighting anyone that didn't have magic, which he does have trouble fighting people with reasonable physical strength. So, Goku can damage him because he shook the entire Universe.
Voted: Goku

*With a punch*
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Doomsday would tear Goku apart at this point, shaking the universe isn't close to destroying it, also, that took 5.5 punches each from Beerus and Goku to do, also with a kamehameha.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Doomsday would tear Goku apart at this point, shaking the universe isn't close to destroying it, also, that took 5.5 punches each from Beerus and Goku to do, also with a kamehameha.
Voted: Goku

Goku also shook the world of Void which is Infinite. Also, how is Superman going to beat someone he can't touch?
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Shaking something isn't destroying it, if he had infinite power, the void would've been destroyed, also, Superman can touch Goku, easily, he just goes so fast Goku appears to be a statue, like when he and Flash did it, if Ultra Instinct couldn't be touched, he wouldn't of been touched by Jiren, please stop with the lies now.
3+ years member.
Voted: Superman

"Manages"
Voted: Goku

You can't use Superman Prime because they are the same person from the same Earth, just an amped up version of Superboy Prime.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Superboy prime comes from another earth there not the same the multiverse has different versions of Superman's each one is come from a different earth they may have the same name but not the same Superman superboy prime is a villian
Voted: Goku

I meant Superman Prime is Superboy Prime just an amped up version. That's why he can't use those feats
Voted: Goku

I meant Superman Prime is Superboy Prime just an amped up version. That's why he can't use those feats
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Still have the same DNA, they fought before on even term, one isn't stronger than the other.
Voted: Goku

Actually Superboy Prime fought pretty evenly with Superman, Supergirl (i think), the green lantern corps, and the yellow lantern corps. So no Superman could not stand a chance against Superman-prime because Superman-Prime is just an amped version of Superboy-Prime.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

He wasn't ludacridsly amped up, he went from dimension destroying to universe destroying... It was a small boost, besides, you admit Superboy Prime is equal to Superman, so that means Superman can do the same as a pre amped version of himself.
Voted: Goku

Superboy-prime is way above the level of base Superman, I mean it took two lantern corps, Superman, and Supergirl, and he was fighting pretty evenly with them.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

can you upvote red ninja
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Dude no, that's not how it went at all, Superman and Superbly Prime were fighting against each other, Superman flew Prime through a red sun surrounded by kryptonite, then he knocked Prime out, because he's just as strong if not stronger, don't try to twist what happen Broseph.
Voted: Goku

In Ultra Instinct, Goku can fight on par with Jiren. When, in base I might add, was near equal to gods that could destroy multiple universes. He fought on par with that guy, until Jiren powered up. That means Goku must at least be equal to Jiren. I'm not gonna say that Superman stands no chance, but the odds are most certainly not in his favor, especially if he can't get a dip into the sun because that makes it nearly a landslide as to who wins. Lets compare feats shall we Goku has shook the entire universe in his fight with Beerus, destroying multiple stars and planets while doing so. Superman has destroyed the shadow moon (that's the only thing I can think of off the top of my head) with the infinite mass punch, which the flash can already do but whatever, by BUILDING UP SPEED to just under the speed of light, remember this thing was the size of the moon and he got knocked out by the impact of the explosion, not saying it's a puny feat, but it can't really compare to Goku's. If there's a better feat then this that I forgot please tell me about it.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

First off, the Gods NEVER destroyed universes, it took BEERUS AND GOKU'S COMBINED POWER in 5.5 punches and a KameHameHa and it STILL didn't destroy a universe, let's say that's 11 punches individually, a KameHameHa is equivalent to let's REALLY low ball and say 10 punches, that would be 21 punches each to destroy a universe.
Of course being a Dragon Ball Fan you want to take one of Superman's lowest feats which is fine, just gives me something to debunk, Superman has been shown to be consistently LEAGUES above that level, for instance when he fought Monarch, where he ACTUALLY destroyed a Universe, not like when Beerus and Goku fought, or when Superman broke the Source Wall, something that has tanked big bangs from every universe at once, what about when he punched through SoulFire Darkseid? Who has the power of the source, thus Multiversal? Goku stands ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE, even if the Z-Fighters teamed with him, also through int he Pride Troopers, he still loses.
Voted: Goku

As for breaking the Source Wall that was Superboy Prime. For the fight with Monarch also Superboy Prime. As for the fight with SoulFire Darkseid I can't say, I'll have to do a bit more research before I can be sure.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Superboy Prime is as powerful as Superman himself, also, no, it was Kal-El that fought Monarch, Superman Prime isn't Superboy Prime.
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What is there to research? He tore a full through a drastically empowered Darkseid, who, by the way, would pimp smack Beerus in his base and demolish Whis, maybe even beat the Grand Priest, Soulfire Darkseid would absolutely wreck Zeno with the Source's abilities and it wouldn't even be close.
Voted: Goku

Dude, Superman Prime IS Superboy Prime they're he same character, both of them are Kal-El from Earth Prime. If you want to use those feats then you should go to Superboy Prime vs Goku that fight would be so much more interesting.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Then that by your logic is still Kal-EL, SUPERMAN, just an Earth 3 version of him, that was on par of the Earth 1 Superman, that doesn't change anything, Superman Prime = Kal El, Superboy Prime = Also Kal-El.
And no, it wouldn't be much more interesting because he would just shit stomp on Goku, same with Superman.
Also, doesn't change the fact that our Superman survived Imperiex's attack, something that was equivalent to 2 big bangs, he also broke a dimensional barrier I believe,
Voted: Goku

So like isn't Superman's arch rival a bald rich guy with no superpower that killed him once? Why hasn't he stopped that yet? But he can beat Goku who can erase people, fight without thinking and not get hit by anyone, teleport anywhere instantly, etc..
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Yes, a being like Superman who can break the Source Wall, tank multi universe busting attacks, fly faster than infinite speed, breaking the bounds of infinity by doing so, it took strength and speed to do that, he was chasing Supergirl, Spectre had to apprehend him before he went to the REAL WORLD OF HEAVEN, not just some weak fictional heaven, ACTUAL REAL LIFE HEAVEN! OUR HEAVEN! XD
He can make time slow down to make everyone statues, as shown when he was talking to the Flash, he was moving at the Flash's comfortable speed, Superman was comfortable too, but he was probably trying a bit more, Superman can also lobotomize Goku, incinerate him with his laser eyes (That would go through ki attacks, because it's a laser beam and not spiritual energy)
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

No Superman being as smart as he is will go to the sun and sun dip him self to fight it would make since goku fights people at full power hakai wouldn't really work due the multiverse so that ability is out the door and the training would come in handy but superman would got space and have goku chase him in which goku dies of no air being a dumbass like he is he proble run a risk against superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I wasn't say the sun beats a sun dipped supman beats goku is what I was saying
Voted: Goku

When these fights happen is Goku allowed to power up into ultra instinct because if not that completely changes my vote.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I doubt Goku can win even with it, but sure, why not.
Voted: Goku

Ok I do believe ultra instinct surpasses the power of superman.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Actually no ultra instinct is kinda like kio ken besides his states wouldn't change, not try mean during his fight with jiren he wasn't any smarter than he is now and Superman being smart would sun dip him self into the sun or into a blue sun which kinda of a hyper form.
Voted: Goku

Bro, how would superman get to the sun with someone fighting him that is his equal or even mor powerful.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

It would to bepend on what universe there fight in if it's dbz superman wins because there no red son a supers can breath in space and goku can't. If it's in the dc universe since dc has red sun goku wouldn't think to take him to a red sun because he's and idiot and would run the rick of taking him to blue sun which doubles his power .
Voted: Goku

So the sun wins against Goku is basically what your saying. So fuck all the training and the fact that there are gods that can erase(not kill) erase things from exsistance that Goku has surpassed (Sidra at least) by fighting and training everyday of his life. Supes flys to the sun and grows like a plant and defeats a dude that also has the power to say the word "Hakai" and erase anything(which he probably wouldn't because that's too easy for Goku and he never does shit the easy way). Not to mention he's attained a level of fighting where he doesn't think and can't be hit by anything while in that form. BUT THE FUCKING SUN is going to get sat in by Superman for oh idk 5 minutes and then it's over? So a plant is going to beat Goku.. interesting
3+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I don't know how to directly reply to someone, but Ultra Instinct is literally nothing like Kaio-Ken, so please don't ever say that again
Dcfan123
259 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

By the way the writer of dragon ball had an interview and even he said goku would lose to superman
Dcfan123
259 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Which Superman is high balled
Voted: Goku

Current, earth 0 superman
Voted: Goku

Whoops sorry I meant new 52
Voted: Goku

Superman high balled is about star level maybe higher depending on the writer goku on the other hand lowballed is multi universal
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

New 52 superman died and convergence Superman too over basically pre crisis Superman is now in the new rebirth Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Superman broke the source wall, something that tanked the big bang, Superman broke through dimensional barriers, Superman tanked Imperiex Prime's attack which was going to destroy the universe two times over, Superman is Multi Universal as well.
Voted: Goku

Yeah, but were those main DC continuity feats?
Dcfan123
260 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I also found this type in "is solar energy unlimited "and i found this "As opposed to fossil fuels, which draw on finite resources that may eventually become too expensive to retrieve, renewable energy sources are generally unlimited in availability. Solar power generation has emerged as one of the most rapidly growing renewable sources of electricity." So yes superman has unlimited power due to the sun and buy the goku has limits watch dbz ep 282 he runs out of energy in ssj3 form and goes back to his normal state.
Voted: Goku

So your going to use real science in a fictional world. Okay so goku and supes are fighting and goku teleports supes inside a black hole where no light can get into. Goku wins? Science. Superman can't get his precious sun tan in there. Wears down and get beat. Sorry bout it
Dcfan123
265 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Googlebear your some what right deathbattle explained some it not all of it but supers more hero than goku will ever be
Voted: Superman

Deathbattle explains it all
Dcfan123
269 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Superman fought another version of himself from another earth in infinite crisis and warped the multiverse superboy prime punched reality and reset the multiverse I have yet to see goku do any of that your "universe shaking" thing won't beat superman who used his heat vision to seal tear in reality so goku has yet to show us those kinds of things
Voted: Goku

Dude goku has shook the entire universe in his "fight" with jiren. Superman takes a defeat pretty easily
Voted: Goku

Fight with beerus*
Voted: Goku

He shook the voided world (unlimited universe) in the jiren fight.
Dcfan123
287 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

All of these came from Dragonball fans from the Dragonballwiki this proves that superman beats goku,goku cant breath in space,
and that goku has limits.
Dcfan123
287 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

This too was found from the Dragonballwiki *Saiyans can't breathe in space, and thats a fact. It has nothing to do with training, their lungs, or anything like that .The "secret" is a saiyan, like Bardock for example since he was shown facing Frieza out in space, is only within the planet's upper atmosphere. This means they can still breathe the planet's oxygen, however slight it may be. But looking back now, the intense training of a saiyan could make their bodies more capable of breathing such thin air all the way in the upper atmosphere.
Dcfan123
287 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

so no sayians cant breath in space and it docent matter how powerful goku gets he will never mach up to the man of steel and if he did then goku would have to face all supermans from the infinity multiverse and goku would run into a superman like pre-crisis or cosmic amour.
Dcfan123
287 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I also found this from the dragon ball wiki on December 25 2012 a person from the dragon ball wiki said this and you can type in *can goku beat superman* and this paragraph will come every time *while goku is extremely powerful, he would not be able to even hurt superman whose only weakness is magic and kryptonite. goku cannot use magic and if anything, the ki blasts are a form of uv light which would help superman. the only way he could defeat superman would be with the powerpole.*
Dcfan123
287 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

i found this from the dragonballwiki -In the Namek Saga on Goku's trip to earth in the Capsule Corp. spaceship, when Goku has to fix the tile on the hull, he wears the spacesuit that Dr. Brief included in the spaceship. If Goku could breathe in space he definitely wouldn't wear the spacesuit.
The Bardock argument is invalid because in a vacuum no one can hear you talk so Bardock was definitely in planet vegeta's atmosphere.
When Goku sent the Rabbit Mob to the moon, however he only said he put them there. He never said how. He could have blasted them there or used his power pole to get up there.
Even if the saiyans could breathe in space, it wouldn't matter. Space has no pressure, therefore anyone in it without protection would fill up similar to a baloon and pop. Frieza must have been bluffing when he said he could breathe in space, unless his mini spaceship thing can generate a shield from the vacuum.
Iron12
287 days ago
Iron12
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DealmCM53gU
Voted: Superman

Goku is immensely powerful! He gets a new Saiyan form basically all the time! But I don't think he will ever match up to the man of steel! In my opinion, Superman is the most powerful being throughout all characters ranging from manga/ anime, to DC/ Marvel, and he is SOO on top of all the other characters! Superman has a basically endless power set! Goku is just slowly getting more power, wall superman, on the other hand, is getting more power basically every comic book after another!! In my opinion, Superman could take on superheroes as powerful as the Spectre, Dr. Manhattan, Goku, Shazam, Dr. Strange, Jean grey, scarlet witch etc. And I think he could beat one punch man as well! I mean has Goku ever destroyed a star before!?!?!?!?!? No, but Superman has! Has Goku ever lifted something 4 times the earth weight?!?! No, he hasn't... superman could defeat any character he comes in contact with! No one will ever beat the man of steel!!!
Voted: Goku

Actually goku has destroyed stars.
Voted: Goku

I mean piccolo destroys the moon with a flick of the wrist back in episode 100ish of DBZ in before there was super saiyens so idk
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Goku can literally become god. So Superman is dead.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Goku can literally become god. So Superman is dead.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Goku can literally become god. So Superman is dead.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Yes, yes. Watch the fans rip out each others throats.
Voted: Superman

To be honest Goku should have a lower intelligence.
remy94
314 days ago
remy94
Goku vs Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Goku can't even survive the inside of a star how could he possibly beat Superman.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Definitely Goku
Goku has super strength, light speed, flight, ki energy, and many, many other abilities that come from these abilities
Supeman has super strength, superspeed, heat vision, artic breath, and flight.
People say that Goku could beat Superman in his base form, but I think that's a little extreme. In my opinion, Goku would need to level up to only SSJ2 to beat Superman
On his behalf, Superman is very strong as well. He once lifted the whole weight of the Earth for five days straight, flew through a black hole for two months straight, and punched the Earth with such a might that literally shook the entire world. Moreover, Darkseid is powerful enough to just....rip the....well, to rip open a portal with his bare hands. And if Superman beat him, that makes Superman stronger than Darkseid.
But if you want to play the game like this, then do remember that Frieza was strong enough to wipe out an entire elite race - which was most feared throughout the universe - along with their whole planet with just a single attack. And that wasn't even his final form! In Frieza Saga, Goku beat his form which I remember being his third or fourth form, which obviously means that Frieza is at least stronger four times in his final form than he is in his first form. But we know that in DBZ, powering up powers you up more like 50-60 times. So if Goku beat him, then it automatically means he is stronger than such a powerful being. And that was for Goku's power only as SSJ1. After that, he is able to power up to SSJ2, SSJ3, then SSJ God and now SSGSSJ. On SSJ1, his power is multiplied by 50. On SSJ2, his power as SSJ1 is multiplied by 2. On SSJ3, his power as SSJ2 is multiplied by 4. Super Saiyajin God multiplies his base power by 200,000. And I have no idea how much his power is multiplied at SSGSS.
That's just too strong. That was Goku's power for you.
Goku will destroy Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA Fight starts at 16:59
TheNerd
335 days ago
TheNerd
Goku vs Superman
Voted: Goku

Goku because he can teleport Superman to a planet orbiting a red sun, go Super Saiyan Blue, and throw Superman into the red sun.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Goku is far too dumb to know what red sun is.
Voted: Superman

yes he is quite playful and moronic
GODOFWAR
336 days ago
GODOFWAR
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Superman cant even land single hit to current Goku.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Goku would kill in the first punch
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Ha ha ha... ha...h--? You are serious?
Dcfan123
347 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I saw a piece of dbzs and it's was when vegeta was fighting a robot and I say goku "vegeta get of there or you suffocate" so I was wondering can sayions breath in space
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Did you saw that vegeta fly in space.
Bardock fight in space.
And for your king information Goku also fight in space.
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