Goku vs Superman

Kakarot vs Kal-El

Created by: Ayoung23

Character 1

Character 2

146 wins (34.6%)

Goku

Kakarot

23

Powergrid

Intelligence
80
80%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
75
75%
25%
Durability
90
90%
Power
100
100%
Combat
100
100%

uSTATS

23
Intelligence
60
60%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
95
95%
5%
Durability
95
95%
Power
100
100%
Combat
100
100%
Based on 185 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender male
Race Saiyan
Height 5'9 // 175 cm
Weight 137 lb // 62 kg
276 wins (65.4%)

Superman

Kal-El

28

Powergrid

Intelligence
100
100%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
100
100%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
85
85%

uSTATS

16
Intelligence
85
85%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
100
100%
Durability
100
100%
Power
95
95%
Combat
80
80%
Based on 371 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender male
Race Kryptonian
Height 6'3 // 191 cm
Weight 225 lb // 101 kg

Comments

Zezzy
14 days ago
Zezzy
Goku vs Superman
Voted: Superman


"And no, Superman isn't consistently on the universal level in Post-Crisis, his most consistent mid-end level is solar system - multi-solar system. "

Lol the **** are you smoking? Superman is easily on a consistent universal level in post crisis, you keep downplaying him like it's hard truth when it isn't
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

You completely missed the part where I said MID-END.
Voted: Goku

@Zezzy: If u begin fight with LordTracer he will never give up. Always will argue to end
Voted: Superman

I can see that. **** him tho.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

You need to calm down. You just got on the site and you're already breaking rules.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

@Tracer Let's continue here.

The high balls of a base Superman are Multi-Universal - Multiversal, and his low balls are Moon - Planetary level, therefore the middle value or the median is Multi-Galactic - Universal, so that's the levels we will be using in this battle as Superman's middle-value area is around there, now, the sun dipping amp, Superman has used it enough, more than needed for it to be considered part of his arsenal, that's like saying Goku can't use his SSG or Ultra Instinct due to the fact he's only used those forms a few times, that's completely nonsensical, so allowing Superman the ability to sundip is completely reasonable, you just don't like that because that guarantees Superman the winner.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

No, I don't like sundipping because it's an outside amp that he doesn't use that much. If he were able to sundip on the fly, then I'd have no problems with letting him use it. And I think it makes more logical sense to say he is solar system - multi-solar system, as that level is the most consistently shown, and Superman has been consistently shown to struggle against, be damaged by and output solar systemic amounts of force.
Voted: Superman

Sundipping isn't an outside amp. Btw Superman has been consistently multi universal to multiversal. Goku has inconsistencies before yet people don't meantion them. Supes wins.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Excuse me, what? Superman cannot just call upon the power he has while sundipped whenever he wants. Ergo, it's an outside amp. And no, Superman is not consistently universal - multi-universal with his mid-end feats in Post-Crisis. Pre-Crisis, yes. Post-Crisis, no. And Goku's "inconsistencies" are all due to him either holding back, or being off guard.
Voted: Superman

Sundipping isn't an outside amp. Btw Superman has been consistently multi universal to multiversal. Goku has inconsistencies before yet people don't meantion them. Supes wins.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Why did you repost the exact same comment...?
Voted: Superman

Uh yes he can. He gets stronger and stronger depending how much sun radiation he gets. Plus if we use a blue sun, it increases his power tremendously. And no, Superman IS consistently multi universal, and Goku wasn't holding back or being off guard, most of his fights were consistent. Post crisis is multi universal. Btw Goku is universal only in MUI form. Not in base form.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

That's not sundipping, and we aren't using a blue sun, it's the standard yellow sun. And no, Superman isn't consistently on the universal level in Post-Crisis, his most consistent mid-end level is solar system - multi-solar system. And every single time Goku has shown a low-end (getting scratched by a bullet, getting harmed by a laser, being matched by Buu Saga level people, etc.) all of those times were due to him holding back or being off-guard. Anyone who actually watches Dragon Ball or does some research would know this. And Goku is easily universal in his base form. He absorbed the power of Super Saiyan God into his Super Saiyan form. SSG Goku's clash with Beerus was going to eliminate Universe 7, a feat calculated at 110x universal. That's multi-universal, already. Goku absorbed that into SSJ, then surpassed that in his base form after breaking his limits. Goku's multi-universal in his base form, and that's only by the time of Resurrection F.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Oh, and show me when Superman has ever just used his sundipping power without actually sundipping, since you apparently think he can do that.
Voted: Superman

"That's not sundipping, and we aren't using a blue sun, it's the standard yellow sun."

Why? It's a common fact that the blue sun tremendously increases Superman's power.
Voted: Superman


"And every single time Goku has shown a low-end (getting scratched by a bullet, getting harmed by a laser, being matched by Buu Saga level people, etc.) all of those times were due to him holding back or being off-guard."

How were all of those times was just him holding back or being off guard? That is the most stupidest **** I've ever heard, not once have we ever heard Goku was holding back in a fight against a stronger opponent nor was he off guard and even in his base form he still gets hurt by normal means necessary, reason why because is possibly because of ki but there are people who explains it more better than you do.
Voted: Superman


"Anyone who actually watches Dragon Ball or does some research would know this."

Anyone who watches Dragon Ball it does research will actually know you are bullshitting.
Voted: Superman

"And Goku is easily universal in his base form. He absorbed the power of Super Saiyan God into his Super Saiyan form. SSG Goku's clash with Beerus was going to eliminate Universe 7, a feat calculated at 110x universal. That's multi-universal, already. "

Goku and Beerus's feet isn't universal, the only person who was universal at that time was Beerus who is a universal being, Goku's feat was only a multi galaxy level feat because it was just a shockwave that blinded the world and didn't even hurt any fractions of the universe. That isn't universal, and Goku absorbing his SSG form into his super Saiyan form is only to multi galaxy level. Goku is not universal in base form. Your calculations are bullshit.
Voted: Superman

"And no, Superman isn't consistently on the universal level in Post-Crisis, his most consistent mid-end level is solar system - multi-solar system. "

Lol the **** are you smoking? Superman is easily on a consistent universal level in post crisis, you keep downplaying him like it's hard truth when it isn't
Voted: Superman

"And no, Superman isn't consistently on the universal level in Post-Crisis, his most consistent mid-end level is solar system - multi-solar system. "

Lol the **** are you smoking? Superman is easily on a consistent universal level in post crisis, you keep downplaying him like it's hard truth when it isn't
Voted: Superman

"Goku absorbed that into SSJ, then surpassed that in his base form after breaking his limits. Goku's multi-universal in his base form, and that's only by the time of Resurrection F."

Goku is not multi universal in his base form and there are already people who debunked that bullshit already. Breaking his limits isn't going to do **** for a person who is still stronger.

"Oh, and show me when Superman has ever just used his sundipping power without actually sundipping, since you apparently think he can do that."

Lol dude if you actually read a comic or better yet, how about you look at All Sunday, Tablesidebeast and Dave Valor's videos and you would realize how much of a punk ass ***** you are. You just proven yourself that you didn't beat anyone in the comment section and the fact that you're a Dbz fanboy who can't accept facts that your Saiyan in orange gets shitstomped by many powerful characters. Learn your **** and stop being *****. If you want proof, go look up Manchester Black and his crew Vs Superman. Or any other battles that had Superman use his sundipping powers from many many comics. Have fun **** boy.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

1. You just gave the exact reason why we aren't using a blue sun. Why the hell would Superman be given a power amp for this fight?

2. If you don't think Goku was holding back against Buu Saga level fodder like the Trio De Dangers, you must think they're God tier as well. And unless you think ToP Saga Goku is BULLET LEVEL, then you have to accept the fact that he holds back.

3. Fantastic rebuttal, except the people who actually watch the show understands that Goku holds back all the goddamn time.

4. You need to stop swearing so much, first of all. That's against the rules. Second of all, the feat is not merely multi-galaxy level, it was explicitly stated several times, some of those times coming from the narrator himself, that it was going to destroy the universe and that SSJ Goku and Beerus were hitting each other with punches that could destroy the universe.

5. Goku is multi-universal in his base form, again, he absorbed SSG which was at the very least two times universal. And your little whatever about breaking his limits means literally nothing.

6. I love how you link people on YouTube to try and explain Superman's power instead of linking a comic or a scan to show your claim. Good job, you're proving everyone proud. Oh, and for your information, because I know you don't know, I don't even like Goku.

7. I would suggest you calm yourself, swearing at people and acting like a child who thinks he's tough because he uses swears just makes you look stupid. Articulate your points in a calm and collected manner, and you might be taken seriously. Don't fly off the handle over something as trivial as a debate over fictional characters.

8. Oh, and try to put all your replies in one comment, it looks much neater.
debayz
35 days ago
debayz
Goku vs Superman
Voted: Goku

Definitely Goku! Limitless power, can transform several times to boost up power and desire not to lose will be his advantage. Not a chance for Superman.
Voted: Superman

Goku doesn't have limitless power. And his desire not to lose isn't an advantage as he only fights to defeat himself, he prefers to have a fight with people of their full potential and if Superman takes a dip in the sun, he wins.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Yet Superman isn't allowed to sundipped, so...
Voted: Superman

Yet Goku isn't allowed to to SSG so.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Except he is, as he can call upon that power whenever he wants without outside help.
Voted: Superman

Superman can probably beat up to a Super Saiyan 4 Goku. No where above that
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

SSJ4 isn't even canon.
Voted: Superman

?
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

What? It's not canon. If you want a Goku that can use SSJ4, see this: https://www.superherodb.com/goku-dragon-ball-gt/10-15092/
Voted: Superman

Superman For The Win
Voted: Goku

Gokupotence>>>Screewattack Superman
AkhilPDX
100 days ago
AkhilPDX
Goku vs Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

One battle that Death Battle actually got right 😉
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Why are you rehashing a debate?
Voted: Superman

Superman should win. He is faster, stronger, smarter, and more durable than Goku. Before someone mention that Goku knows Ultra Instinct, Superman knows Torquasm Vo which is pretty much Ultra Instinct on drugs. If we look at the core design of this two characters, one character is designed not to lose in a fight and the other one must lost so he overcome any limits. Strange Visitor Superman and rip through a 5th Dimensional existence, that already above anything Goku can do.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Um, first off, I don't know why you're bringing up Strange Visitor Superman. It's an entirely different version of Superman, while the one in this battle is the normal, canon Superman. Secondly, the "design" of the two doesn't mean anything in a versus match. Next, Goku and Superman are comparable in speed and Goku is stronger and more durable. Base Goku is several times greater than universe level, about ten times greater, while Superman is only about three to four times greater than universe level.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

1) Superman can lose fights
2) Goku is NOT universal
3) Superman is NOT universal
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Goku is universal, I've beaten you at that debate several times now. Superman is universal in Pre-Crisis.
2+ years member.
Voted: Goku

@LordTracer: "Several times greater than universe level." So what? Outermultinfinitynucleoembryoticplasmaticsupe riumversal level?
Voted: Superman

Lol!
Superman and Goku are both universal . Superman was able to beat the living **** out of Mongul . Nearly kill Wonder Woman and was able to vaporise a villain on his level with the solar flare . Imagine if he goes to the sun . A Kamehameha ain't doing anything . Superman is faster as he has crossed the bounds of infinity and has traveled from one end of the universe to Earth , the dc universe is much bigger than our normal universe . Superman is stronger as he was able to shatter reality , break highfathers staff out of the source wall which is considered infinitely powerful punch Death right in the jaw , Survive being thrown into a red star and actually destroying green lanterns constructs. Superman could simply lobotomize Goku , snap his neck and other ways . Martian Manhunter who is slightly inferior to Superman punched Superboy Prime and actually harmed him .
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

@Spidey Uh, no. Several times universe level is obviously just multi-universal.
@MoP A Kamehameha from base Goku would heavily damage Superman. Goku's power is already superior, and when Goku uses the Kamehameha, his power is multiplied by a little over two times, as seen in the Saiyan Saga, where base Goku had a power level of 416 and it increased to 924 when he used the Kamehameha. And both Goku and Superman have immeasurable speed, so there's little difference between them. And Superman isn't stronger because his best feats and scaling are universal - multi-universal, while base Goku's feats and scaling are on that level as well, and Goku can amp himself with the Super Saiyan forms.
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

@Manofpower, that fact the you can still sit there and say Superman wins despite the fact that I have proven you wrong EVERYTIME we've discussed it is beyond me. I still like you, but the blind fanboyism is ridiculous, you've already admitted that Goku wins, so why do you persist on continuing with that false narrative?
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Also @Manofpower, traveling across the universe to Earth, that's only half of the universe and that still took him 9 days, Superman still has measurable speed, whereas Goku had irrelevant speed, meaning it transcends 4th dimensional based of scaling from Jiren who managed to walk within a time cage meaning he does not require time to move proving he is above the concept of time and has irrelevant speed meaning he is so fast it doesn't matter anymore, and that was Jiren while holding back, at most 50% of his power and Goku was able to keep up with him easily throughout the entire fight, meaning Goku also has irrelevant speed outclassing Superman's finite limits, as does his strength, he broke reality with a punch? Good job, Majin Buu did that all the way back in the Buu saga by simply yelling, so Superman is Buu Saga tier at the most, Ultimate Gohan **** stomped Buu who has an equivalent feat to Superman so Ultimate Gohan should logically be able to stomp Superman, the guy is outclassed in every facet except intelligence.
Dcmcu
107 days ago
Dcmcu
Goku vs Superman
Voted: Superman

If Superman was out classed then why are you showing no facts or something saying he is we're your facts at
2+ years member.
Not voted yet

@Dcmcu, um where is your evidence, you didn't even provide any thing that I can argue, but since you asked here is my evidence of Goku and beerus almost destroying the entire universe in the FIRST SAGA of the entire series-
https://www.google.com/search?q=goku+and+beerus+destroy+the+universe&client=tablet-android-samsung&prmd=ivsn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwja7ueho-LfAhWomuAKHf8rAVYQ_AUoAX
2+ years member.
Not voted yet

I showed facts every other sentence, maybe you should learn to read EVERYTHING and not just the first few words before you come at me rookie, you didn't debunk any of my claims, debunk means to prove wrong, because I have a feeling you didn't know that based on your lack of evidence in your statement, and now I gave you concrete evidence PROVING all of the facts I had showed previously.
Voted: Superman

1. One I just don't like anime (Not saying Ihate them and they lose)
2. I just don't see GOku winning . I just go with the flow as t not cause drama
3. It's just a thing j do. Sorry
Voted: Superman

You do realize Goku can't physically hurt Superman since Superman has invulnerability correct?
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

If that was how things worked, Superman would never be physically harmed by anything at all. However, that's not how things work and he can be easily harmed by beings on or beyond his level. And considering that this is only Post-Crisis Superman, who is weaker than even Buu Saga Goku, it's quite clear that current Broly Saga Goku is more than capable of damaging and killing Superman.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Hold up fam, barely Galaxy Level SSJ3 Buu Saga Goku beating Multi-Galaxy - Universal tier Superman? Mmm, me no thinks you are correct, especially when Superman sun dips, where his power goes up to Low Multiversal tiers or beyond
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Post-Crisis Supes being multi-galaxy, let alone universal is not consistent with most of his feats of strength and durability, he normally operates at around solar system to multi-solar system level. And sundipping is an amp that he rarely uses, so that wouldn't be allowed.
Iron12
109 days ago
Iron12
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Scores still show people ignorant of Goku's power level, and just take Deathbattle's verdict as law....lol. Deathbattle's verdict was screwed up on purpose, it was purely a political move on their part to bring controversy to their video to draw in more views. Even as a more casual viewer of DBZ I knew their analysis was incorrect. Now with Ultra instinct Goku, Goku is certainly on another level than Supes, and deserves a power level well into the 30's and even 40's and 50's compared to other character's on here.
Voted: Superman

You think people choose superman over goku because of death battle you got the wrong idea ultra instinct ran out of energy goku lost to jiern had to had help beat him this superman is base rebirth Superman who's a mix of new 52 superman and post and if goku should get a power than superman should to.
Voted: Superman

This video is something I use in fight because this fight needs to stop
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SYE3LMHo1As
Voted: Superman

This is base goku he doesn't have ultra instinct in this battle, if he did then it would be clear who would win
Nanotech
112 days ago
Nanotech
Goku vs Superman
Voted: Goku

Ultra Instinct Goku will destroy Superman
Voted: Superman

this isnt Ui goku
Voted: Superman

Then why pick Goku I like your webiste on Goku vs Superman.
Voted: Goku

Before voting I recommend to read this goku vs superman who would win?
Voted: Goku

Screewattack Darkseid destroys Screewattack Superman now
Voted: Superman

Darkseid destroys what?
Voted: Superman

Uhh what?
Morex23
166 days ago
Morex23
Goku vs Superman
Voted: Superman

Superman sans hésitation
Voted: Superman

Is goku that guy from death battle I don't know who is I'm sorry
Lobo666
208 days ago
Lobo666
Goku vs Superman
Voted: Superman

Supes wins.
Dcfan123
214 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Is solar engry limitless
2+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Yeah for some billion years where suns constantly project energy while being millions of times larger than your little planet.
2+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Goku and Superman have equal strength, energy and intelligence, with Superman being a bit more durable, and Goku being a bit faster. Goku's most powerful attacks are not punches or kicks, but rare long range energy blasts. So Superman has to understand that Goku is not dangerous when he is at his best in the blows he trades with Superman, but when he is not focused on the close strikes where Superman will put a ton of effort to prevail, and Goku will be charging Kamehameha. So Superman should use the unorthodox strategy to fly as if he is fleeing when he is not losing, instead of trying to finish off an extremely strong opponent as usual whenever he seems vulnerable. This will allow Superman to be prepared to avoid the Kamehameha that will damage him so much that Goku will seem invulnerable, although he is not. Then Goku will tire in a long fight until Superman will be able to beat him without using constant offense before his opponent could retalitate as in most cases, due to Goku's advantage in speed diminishing. Until Superman changes his tactics which were often effective against other foes that were slower than him, he will always lose, but Goku will not be able to kill him as he will flee with his flight. Goku is faster in attacks but not in movement. So Goku will beat Superman many times before Superman wins the final battle, and kill Goku.
Voted: Superman

Goku losses 7 times out of 10. Plus his intelligence needs to be lowered.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Would you like to have a (friendly) debate about this?
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Are we using DBS, DBZ or something else?
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Z and Super.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Ok, Goku wins
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

I can't believe it... you both voted Goku... NANI!?
Dcfan123
254 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Ive called this fight long age
Dcfan123
254 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

The canon is everthing you have alot of reading to do because everthing goku has done superman already did like i said everthing is canon so you have to from were it all started.
Dcfan123
254 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Justice league #40 new 52 everything is canon I win
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

What does that have to do with you winning? No matter the canon Goku wins.
Dcfan123
255 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Superman warped reality/ destroed the the boundaries of space and time with his earth 2 counter part and the same fight was shown through out the infinite multiveres and also there are two definition s of world.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Goku's greatest feats-
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Shaking the World of Void, which is infinite.
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http://imgur.com/exVVRn5
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The ability to destroy 1.5 universes in base, then with the additional multipliers from all of his forms, making him 2,160,000x universal, 3x that with the Kamehameha.
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He can fight Jiren who is 4D.
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http://imgur.com/rWPCh5U
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Tanked the Hakai, existence erasure.
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https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4e/02/7c/4e027c3f0a3414eb05cf8fd42c3a4cc4.jpg
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He can use the Hakai, once again, existence erasure
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCh1LcqXgAAL3d_.jpg
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Among other things
Voted: Superman

On your browser type in supermans greatest feats and in the first ten results is where I got my feats from .
And repairing the universe with his heat vision is maybe (Possibly not) means his lasers are universal in terms of Power . And Ultraman and Supes fought and damaged the multimeter (can't find the scan) sule r man has punched ..... PUN CHED through reality literally shattering it
https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
And this scan right here proves why superman beats gok u
https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

It doesn't matter what I type in my browser, I can guarantee that none of Superman's feats fall into the Multiversal range. Hell no, Superman repairs a SMALL crack in reality, it is not universal, it is unquantifiable. I'm pretty sure it was Superboy-Prime that shattered reality, and he is vastly more powerful than regular Superman. Also, please stop using Bing, none of the scans you send me from there work...
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

I mean, I can guarantee he doesn't have consistent feats that put him on the multiversal level, he has a few, damaging EJ and Soul Fire Darkseid are the two I know of, but that would be PIS, because NO other feats are on the level of that.
Voted: Superman

Well since the bin g browser isn't working i guess I lose . I can't actually quite comics .
So until I can actually quite comics i won't be able to defeat this debate . Nice debate though .
But like I said super prime and man collided disturbances her the multiverse
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Wait, so you admit defeat? Also, if Superman and Superboy-Prime actually caused disturbances in the Multiverse, that still wouldn't be Multiversal levels of destruction.
Voted: Superman

Yeah I admit minor defeat . If the scans would of worked impossibly would be won but yeah I admit defeat
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

@ManofPower Why not just use google?
ewwwppl
255 days ago
ewwwppl
Goku vs Superman
Voted: Superman

reading the comments and i wanna drop my 2 cents in. in my personal opinion i think superman would win. but to the superman fans. goku is not weak. and to the goku fans superman is not weak. i see a lot of people saying "goku would one shot supes in base form" or "superman kills goku in seconds" they wouldn't kill each other. they'd probably team up and become the new gods of destruction. honestly silver age superman stomps. cosmic armor is a mega stomp and superman prime one million is a mega stomp as well. as for new 52 and rebirth and some other iterations of supes. SSB would win after a long fight and UI stomps. SS1-SS4 is not enough to beat supes and SSB & UI are gonna be a lot for supes to handle. continue the battles i just wanted to pitch in and let y'all know that this isn't gonna be a stomp fest. there are forms of goku that stomp supes and there's iterations that stomp goku. hate to sound like i'm sucking superman but it really all boils down to which superman is going up against goku.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

I'm glad that you are giving your opinions, more people need to, but I disagree with a few of your statements. First of them being that SA Superman stomps, he can't, he is highly overrated just because of the blowing away the Solar System feat, which is not impressive as Super Breath is one of his powers. SA is around the Multi-Universal levels of power, I would say he's the most power, but he gets cast aside by Goku, pretty handily. Next thing I disagree with is you saying SPOM stomps Goku, SPOM has no feats, until he gets feats Goku would win. Goku always has access to all of his forms, excluding Ultra Instinct. This is composite Superman, meaning all feats are allowed. (That are actually Superman, unlike Thought Robot, or that are canon and quantifiable, unlike All Star)
Voted: Superman

Strength - Supes has collided fists with supesboy prime and shattered reality in infinite crisis .
His Reaction speed is much slower than his moving speed . Her was able to react to the Flash and Reverse Flash .
Reverse Flash -https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
The Flash - https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights.
His best vision is super hot being able to reignite a star -https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
and has sealed tears in the universe with his heat vision . Can't find the scan for that one .
He's and Diana slowed down the speed of spectre falling . Spectre is literally the embodiment of the universe . https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
Part one
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Could you give me a scan for the first one please, I was under the impression Superboy-Prime would f*ck regular Superman.
Voted: Superman

Part two
Supes has destroyed a Destroyed ship (shop used by the monitors. They also shot reality warping missiles at him) https://m.imgur.com/a/voGE9
Thanks a blast from booster gold https://m.imgur.com/UFfcDoM
Withstands freaking DEATH https://m.imgur.com/a/WZjjT
Found the c
Scan for him repairing reality https://i.imgur.com/qa9CHtW.jpg
Voted: Superman

Here is the scan for him colliding https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
Voted: Superman

Did i win?
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Damnit, the scan isn't working, either way, Superman, along with Power Girl And the Lantern Corps, got bitched by Superboy-Prime. Also, I will continue this debate in the morning, goodnight.
Voted: Superman

Goodnight bruh . I'm unstoppable now 😈
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Hell no you didn't win! This debate is FAR from over. 😉
Voted: Superman

Hehehe. Can't wait til @Daniel sees the new @MoP. I'm a way better debater . Maybe I can debate them or ....... Possibly not 😂
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Dude, tomorrow you're going to get recked! 😜
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Also, while I'm still here, all of your scans from "Bing" aren't working :/
Voted: Superman

Here is the website s i got the scans from
https://www.quora.com/DC-Comics-What-are-some-of-Supermans-greatest-feats-achievements
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Spectre is not the embodiment of the Universe, he is the Spirit of Vengeance. And they not only couldn't stop him, but he obviously doesn't have Infinite weight, if he did he would go straight through the Earth, no matter how much they stop his descent. Booster Gold is not very powerful. Withstanding Death is not impressive, Goku has survived actual existence erasure, not just death. Repairing reality is unquantifiable. Also, that website isn't working.
Voted: Superman

@Spidey are any of my feats acceptable IYO
2+ years member.
Voted: Goku

No. I want comics, not out of context scans
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Strength: Goku can shake 1.5 universe size dimensions in base. He can also swap hands with Jiren, who can physically overpower time, and punch through dimensions. Goku has 4D strength, whereas Superman has, ARGUABLY, Infinite 3D strength, Goku is infinitely stronger.
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Speed: He not only has instant teleportation, but he is 4D, meaning he transcends time, meaning he has infinite speed. Although, his best actual speed feat, is scaling to Beerus who can easily travel from his palace, in the middle of a nebula, which is possibly 24 light years across, then he travels to another galaxy, which is, based off of the Milky Way, 100,000 light years, then back, so he would be traveling 70,129,221.1111x the speed of light since he travels this distance in 1 minute and 30 seconds. While this being less impressive, Beerus did this casually while suppressed, simply because he was going to get food. Whis can also travel across universes and dimensions in seconds, who Goku LOOSELY scales to, although he is slower than him. Also, Goku and Beerus can clash fists and shake the entire universe instantaneously.
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Destructive Capability: I have already proven Goku is 2,160,000x universal, 3x that with the Kamehameha.
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Voted: Goku

Lol, whoops, forgot Durability.
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Durability: Goku has tanked complete existence erasure, meaning it doesn't just destroy your physical body, it destroys your soul too. He can also tank hits from Jiren who can overpower time, and punch through dimensions. (Iirc he did)
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

.... Hello?
Voted: Superman

Ok . Supes Has broken carmakers arm (can't find the comic . He's held a miniature black hole which even though small still courts ripped the earth apart . He has traveled to the end of the universe back to earth in around 6 months . That faster than Doctor rates helmet which done the exact same thing in a year . so shoes was going at around twice fates elm too speed . Which was around 5 decillion times the speed of light which means he was going around ten decillion times the speed of light . He survived being sucked into a hypersize black hole and even escaped it . He survived going into the center of one while holdingbrainiac . Sorry couldnt use comics . For some reason I guess I didn't save all of them into my document 😂
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Lol, wait, who the hell is Carmaker? "Miniature" being the key word, and he was shitting himself doing it, the black hole it self would have the gravitational pull of a small planet. From the end of the universe it would only be 46.6 billion light years, if Superman did it in half a year he would only be 93.2 billion times the speed of light. Where did you get the decillions? Black holes aren't close to universal, so that doesn't really contribute to his durability, especially when going up against Goku, who is millions of times past universal. (This is the first part of my comment, next comment will be me giving you Goku's feats 😉)
Voted: Superman

*Darkseids arm . Black holes are actually universal ! They are able to feed off space and trancesnd time. They (if big enough) could destroy a universe .Ingot the decillions from death battle . SO....... Also he survived Omega beams >>>>>>>>>>>God Blast😉
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

If they get big enough yes they can be, but the ones Superman survived were no where near that caliber. Smh, Screw Attack is constantly wrong 🙄. Uh.... any proof? Omega Beams can be survived by Wonder Woman, the Godblast can damage Galactus (and annihilate Superman thousands of times over) I think your getting Omega Beams, confused with the ACTUAL Omega Effect.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

ManOfPower! Wants to square dance with me! SirSpidey! Wants to square dance with me! LordTracer! Wants to square dance with me! Dark Prodigy! Wants to square dance with me! Soratoumiga! Wants to square dance with me! IMABATMAN42 Won't square dance with me! IMABATMAN42 Won't square dance with me! IMABUTTMAN42 don't want no part of me! THENEMIANLION! Wants to square dance with chu! YEEEEEHAAAAAR!
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

I... There's.... someone else.... I'm sorry 😭
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Wha... When did this... Huh? *Remembers Jongensoden saying "He tasted like cherry"... NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

I... I should've told you sooner 😟
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

First, you take out my son, then you turn my other son into a Dolphin! Now you do this? What did I ever do to you? I'm going to get you Shark Slayer!
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

I'M SORRY!! 😭
Dcfan123
257 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Imabatmanfan42 there will never be a true answer this fight will go on for ever YouTube says goku wins the internet says Superman it only ends we're it begins so this fight is pointless until some fine a one true answer.
Voted: Superman

Alright bro I'm leaving see you in a few (maybe more) hours
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Alright? But this debate is not over.... 👋
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

I want to end this once and for all, someone debate me, pls.
Voted: Superman

I've researched shoes a lot and I'm ready @Bats
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Finally! Fite me!
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

You must've found a lot of info on "shoes" XD
Voted: Superman

Yes . Also I'm moving around my house so I'll be off an on . But you first
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Wait, we need to make a few rules:
1. The anger that we get here can't be taken to real life or other places on this site
2. First to admit defeat loses
3. Whoever loses must vote for the actual winner (Goku/Superman)
4. Morals off
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Do you agree with these?
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I want to fight you irl... XD
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

I'm a pacifist... I'LL VERBALLY DESTROY YOU, THOUGH
Voted: Superman

Ok bro . I agree with everyone except Morals off . Supes will literally kill goku in a matter of seconds
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

I disagree. Superman is both not fast enough and not powerful enough to one-shot Goku.
Voted: Superman

No.... Definitely not a one shot . But if they are both blood listed supes wins rather easily . But not a stomp
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

No possible way, Superman isn't capable of doing that to a Multiverse buster, jut to get this out of the way, I'll do it now. Goku with his God Form, is roughly 1.5x universal as he and Beerus threatened to destroy 3 universe size dimensions, then he absorbs that power into his base, then after training he gets roughly 3x stronger, making him 4.5x universal. After that the multipliers of SS1, 2, and 3, add up to 400x that, which is 1,800x universal. Then SSB, which makes him unquantifiably stronger, but let's say 10x to low ball, so that would make him 18,000x universal, then with Kaioken x20 it makes him 20x stronger, so 360,000x universal. Last but not least Ultra Instinct, which is probably a 6x multiplier, he was getting fondeled by a suppressed Jiren, then he fondled Jiren, so at least 6x, so, 2,160,000x universal. (3x that with the Kamehameha)
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Uh, hello?
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Ready?
Voted: Superman

Superman would win. Also Goku's intelligence should be much lower.
Mohamed
276 days ago
Mohamed
Goku vs Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I Vote Superman.
IAmNomad
286 days ago
IAmNomad
Goku vs Superman
Not voted yet

Goku - 23
Superman - 28
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Superman Wins
ywacch
313 days ago
ywacch
Goku vs Superman
Voted: Goku

I dont understand how superman is faster than goku. The fastest speed superman has ever reached is nothing to goku's instant transmission
Voted: Superman

Cause teleportation isn't speed
Goku normally can't go faster than 12 million faster than light
Superman goes way way faster
Voted: Goku

In SPEED they mean how fast they can move from one place to another. And goku's speed is instantaneous.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Teleportation is a form of flight it's basically flight speed goku has to find a ki energy and then teleport there. Unlike Superman who flys there is a feat we're he flew faster than infinite so no goku isn't faster than goku.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

DCFan123 steals all my feats... 😟 (EXPOSED)
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Lmao
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Sorry I found that out by going the the superpower wiki😊
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

No but seriously, I've used all of the feats he claims first... 😟
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Nemian read your profile messages
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Come to me for feats first.
Voted: Goku

Alright, Time to get down to business. HEAVY spoilers for DBZ-DBS and A WALL of text. So scroll down to the bottom for my final answer. [Spoiler]Goku as a SSJ3 in the buu saga, was on par with kid buu. Kid buu is a galaxy buster. So goku is a galaxy buster in ssj3, and according to raditz's scouter in the saiyan saga, the kamehameha uses 3 times your normal power if it isn't charged for very long, meaning a medium strength ssj3 kamehameha from goku is triple galaxy busting. When he becomes a god, he cancels beerus's punch which would've destroyed the ENTIRE UNIVERSE had it not be canceled out by goku. And then he absorbs god form into his base. Meaning that in his base he can destroy a universe with a punch. And bust 3 of 'em with a kamehameha.
After fighting with beerus he learns to tap into SSJG on his own by training with WHIS. After training with whis and going ssjg we have no idea how strong/weak SSJG is. All we know is it is FAR superior to SSJ3 So lets use SSJ3's multiplier(300) and call this a lowball. In super saiyan god he would be able to bust 300 universes with a punch and blast away 1,500. Then after going BLUE.
He would become 50 times that(As blue is Super saiyan god with super saiyan) and become 15,000 universe busting with a punch, 30,000 with a kamehameha. In the tournament of universe 6 and 7 He had already trained to become ten times as power as he already was. Meaning he is now 150,000 and 300,000, with his punch and kamehameha respectively. During the tournament of universe 6. We learn that he can tap into kaioken with SSJB up to ten times. And in the Tournament of power,
he becomes 20 times. So now he can do 1,500,000 with a punch and 30,000,000 with his kamehameha. 30,000,000 universes busted with his blast.THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE. And people say he would be beaten by superman without a thought.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Everything you just said superman already did powerlevels in dragonball make sense but not in the dc infinite universe so goku taking out 3 universe is nothing compared to superman warping /shattering space and time in one fight goku is only universel superman is infinite multiverse
3+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I hate it when Dragon Ball fans just throw in random numbers to scale their characters. None of this is official, therefore its not true. Superman shits on Goku because he split the moon in half when angry which was half of his power times that by two and he's a double moon buster haha fuck you
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

@Dcfan123: You say he shattered space/time in an infinite multiverse, when? You literally have no evidence that he did, that still doesn't make him Infinite-Multiversal as you claim. If he was Infinite-Multiversal he would have completely destroyed the Multiverse. Also, when is it stated that it is infinite?
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Read adventures of Superman issue #649 and read then come back fight
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Black Holes take up space and have mass, they are not anywhere close to being infinite.
Voted: Superman

https://www.space.com/1976-black-hole-puts-dent-space-time.html
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Still not infinite. And the black hole mentioned 7 times larger than our sun, the one Superman was holding was the size of a speck.
Voted: Superman

Sti ll a black hole turns atoms into spaghetti and even if the black hole was a speck of would still be as powerful as a large one the only difference is that a large one is bigger so reaches farther but light can't escape a small one like a big one it was literally ripping the atoms off of superman three why he was struggling
Voted: Superman

Sti ll a black hole turns atoms into spaghetti and even if the black hole was a speck of would still be as powerful as a large one the only difference is that a large one is bigger so reaches farther but light can't escape a small one like a big one it was literally ripping the atoms off of superman three why he was struggling
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

It wouldn't be near as powerful as a large one.
Voted: Superman

Idk just heard an hour it at school
Voted: Superman

Idk just heard an hour it at school
Voted: Superman

New comment chain
Still the density of made him struggle
Voted: Superman

Alright I'm going to ignore this battle I'm not arguing over who wins it's going to end up a lot like Thor vs superman and also I don't know that much about goku but I definitely no supes is stronger i know goku is a lot faster and also what s the difference between power and strength
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Power is basically just energy output, Goku easily defeats Superman in this one, Becca Goku shook the World of Void with his power, The World of Void is Infinite, btw.
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2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Superman shook an infinite multiverse
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Superman punched through a dimensional barrier, Superman tanked a blast from Imperiex, and then after he was sun dipped brought Imperiex back to the Big Bang, 14.8 billion years ago, Superman survived, Imperiex didn't.
Voted: Superman

Thank you somebody understands instead of me and @DcFan123
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Also, Superman fought against Soulfire Darkseid, who is Multi Universal - Multiversal.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Don't you just hat when people who know nothing of Dragon Ball or DC try to wank their Dragon Ball and do anything to lowball DC? They take their lowest showings ever, it's cute, if DC did that, Goku would be Room Level.
Voted: Superman

Yeah but @IMABATMAN42 knows stuff I did not know about the shadow moon feat
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

He knows his stuff when it comes to Naruto, he doesn't when it comes to Superman, the Shadow Moon thing was an outlier, it was seriously one of Superman's low end feats.
Voted: Superman

Yeah I guess your right
@IMABATMAN you know your possibly the anime guy on here
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Eh, I agree @TheNemianLion, but you still gotta admit it knocked him out. And he was struggling to hold a black hole the size of a speck. Oh, and thank you for the compliment😊
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Lol
Voted: Superman

But you gotta understand a black hole has infinite density even though it was a speck he still was holding a black hole it's gravitational pull which is one thing and then the density of course supes is going to struggle
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

It knocked him out because it was an outlier, Superman felt pain because it was a low end feat, and it was compressed on a very small section of his hand, it's like a human with a Bee sting, except that sting is ripping apart your atoms, if the weight was spread out throughout his whole body, he wouldn't of moved.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

The black hole had the gravitational pull of a planet, a small one at that.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

On the square micrometer of his palm, 2,060,000 micrometers in the surface area of a human body, that's not counting any of the thickness of the skin, muscle mass, bones, organs, etc, Superman could probably of taken hundreds or thousands of that number, potentially a black hole of a solar mass of a thousand or more.
Voted: Superman

The black hole was growing in his hand he was compressing it also someone called the MNemon was messing with his head
Voted: Superman

The black hole was growing in his hand he was compressing it also someone called the MNemon was messing with his head
Heep
319 days ago
Heep
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Six zeros are missing somewhere in the messages chain.
Voted: Superman

What d oes that mean
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Oh, you wanna know the specific comic where he struggled? JLA issue number 77. This was where he struggled to hold a black hole.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Which one there like 50 justice league teams with the same name
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Read it still didn't see any struggles or him having any weaknesses to the black hole
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Oh, please, he was screaming in agony. Saying it was ripping his hands. This black hole was the size of a speck.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Still the comic says nothing about him having limits so you think him struggling to hold a Black is a limit but goku going ssj1 on 40tons is nothing.you also think him shaking the Dragonball universe beats Superman since superman already did it in his universe which was 4 comics long. I think your the one who hasn't read comics and only watch the anime of Dragonball ,your one with no info ,your the one with nothing just one feat I've brought plenty of points but since your Dragonball fan you think goku beats everyone.thats the reason why superman is winning because true fans know the true.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Seriously? I don't THINK Goku can beat everyone, I KNOW he can! (I'm kidding don't worry) But, no, in all seriousness, the comic doesn't state he has limits?!? The pure fact that he was in agonizing pain holding the black hole shows he has limits, if he didn't he would hold it no sweat.
Voted: Superman

Still the density of the black hole is what was holding him also black holes transcended space and time
Voted: Superman

Still the density of the black hole is what was holding him also black holes transcended space and time
Voted: Superman

Still the density of the black hole is what was holding him also black holes transcended space and time
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

XD; Where the hell did you find that black holes transcend time and space?!? If it did A. It can't because then it would be a pocket dimension or a universe and B. Because Infinite space would take up all existence.
Mattt
323 days ago
Mattt
Goku vs Superman
Voted: Superman

Who honestly believes that Goku would win in this instance? Like what does he do that is better than superman? I do not understand. I am genuinely baffled.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Speed, combat, power, and strength. Those are just the obvious ones, the rest are kinda arguable, them being intelligence and durability, Superman obviously takes intelligence, but Goku probably takes durability.
Voted: Superman

Superman has survived the omega beams which no otherbeing has survived that except doomsday and that's only cause of his immortality but superman takes durability and intelligence like you said and a lso SUPERMAN can lift more than goku
Voted: Superman

Superman has survived the omega beams which no otherbeing has survived that except doomsday and that's only cause of his immortality but superman takes durability and intelligence like you said and a lso SUPERMAN can lift more than goku
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Lifting and striking strength are two comepletly different things. Superman has more lifting strength, Goku has more striking strength. Goku has survived around Hakai energy before, it being the energy of destruction, it erases anything it comes into contact with. Here is Goku tanking it.
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Voted: Superman

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1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

So maybe their durability is equal, since you can't definitively prove which out of Hakai and Omega Beams is more powerful.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Hakai ability can't kill darkseid only radion a metal can kill darkseid because darkseid is immortal
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

That's like saying that The One Above All couldn't kill Darkseid, which he can.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

The one above all and the Presence are the same person just in two different universes. The Dragonball wiki clearly states that the hakai attack doesn't kill immortals prove me wrong on this.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Darkseid can die, just not by natural means.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Also, how the hell are The Presence and The-One-Above-All the same character? Their just omnipotent beings in their own Omniverse.
Voted: Superman

Actually dude I agree you know it's possible very God in their own Omniverse is God
Y ou see
One above all = presence = Arceus is all the same their based of of Jehovah the God
Voted: Superman

Actually dude I agree you know it's possible very God in their own Omniverse is God
Y ou see
One above all = presence = Arceus is all the same their based of of Jehovah the God
Voted: Superman

Actually dude I agree you know it's possible very God in their own Omniverse is God
Y ou see
One above all = presence = Arceus is all the same their based of of Jehovah the God
Voted: Goku

Alright, Time to get down to business. HEAVY spoilers for DBZ-DBS and A WALL of text. So scroll down to the bottom for my final answer. [Spoiler]Goku as a SSJ3 in the buu saga, was on par with kid buu. Kid buu is a galaxy buster. So goku is a galaxy buster in ssj3, and according to raditz's scouter in the saiyan saga, the kamehameha uses 3 times your normal power if it isn't charged for very long, meaning a medium strength ssj3 kamehameha from goku is triple galaxy busting. When he becomes a god, he cancels beerus's punch which would've destroyed the ENTIRE UNIVERSE had it not be canceled out by goku. And then he absorbs god form into his base. Meaning that in his base he can destroy a universe with a punch. And bust 3 of 'em with a kamehameha.
After fighting with beerus he learns to tap into SSJG on his own by training with WHIS. After training with whis and going ssjg we have no idea how strong/weak SSJG is. All we know is it is FAR superior to SSJ3 So lets use SSJ3's multiplier(300) and call this a lowball. In super saiyan god he would be able to bust 300 universes with a punch and blast away 1,500. Then after going BLUE.
He would become 50 times that(As blue is Super saiyan god with super saiyan) and become 15,000 universe busting with a punch, 30,000 with a kamehameha. In the tournament of universe 6 and 7 He had already trained to become ten times as power as he already was. Meaning he is now 150,000 and 300,000, with his punch and kamehameha respectively. During the tournament of universe 6. We learn that he can tap into kaioken with SSJB up to ten times. And in the Tournament of power,
he becomes 20 times. So now he can do 1,500,000 with a punch and 30,000,000 with his kamehameha. 30,000,000 universes busted with his blast.THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE. And people say he would be beaten by superman without a thought.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Speed: goku has little feats to suggest hes beyond superman, superman went faster than infinity Strength: superman lifted many planets at once, and ripped a hole in reality twice with a single punch, goku couldn't achieve this even with the help of Beerus and multiple strikes Durability: this ones obvious, superman took the equivalent of a couple hundred supernovas rapid fire, goku just simply has not shown he can take something even close to that. Intelligence: superman is a genius, and has access to tech far beyond our own, Goku however has had not formal education. Fighting Skill: This is where Goku really shines his technique and fighting prowess makes him one of the deadliest opponents in fiction when concerning h2h combat. Overall superman wins 9/10 having much better physicals and with no new forms past ultra instinct mastered, goku cant scream his way out of this one
Voted: Superman

Superman kicks donkey
Voted: Superman

Ok goku vs superman I'm going with superman i not that familiar with everything goku can do but no looked him up and from my 3 hour research on goku and superman superman power beats goku sure goku can defeat God's but so can superman goku can travel faster than light so can superman goku is basically a giant magic ripoff of superman superman beats does like darkseid Thor shaman black ada m and more I'm pretty sure he can take a human sonic the hedgehog on there no offense that's my opinion so no need to argrue there
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

How is Superman's power greater than Goku's? When Superman has an Infinite display of power, say shaking an Infinite world, let me know.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Infinite crisis #5 superman shook the infinite multiverse which is canon buy the because of Phil Jimenez
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Just because it happend, doesn't mean he could do it again. This is because he's just not at that same level of power anymore.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

He been on a level far beyond goku, goku is universe + superman is infinite multiverse + he could do the same feat again they just don't another Superman to fight him again maybe the injustice universe might do the same.
Voted: Superman

Should I remind you of superman prime one million or thought robot superman a
Voted: Superman

Also tell me who has faced more powerful foes goku or superman answer superman
Superman has fought foes way stronger than you'd
Superman sure isn't faster bu uuuuuuuutt he's somewhat stronger also
Goku can't really harm him w it th a kamihamiha thing it's it I'm thinking correctly a lot of folks power can only hurt people who are bad just like ghost riders penac e stare
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

@IMABATMAN42
What a dumb statement... Just because it happened doesn't mean it could happen again... By that logic, anything Goku does that doesn't mean he could do it again, in fact, he can barely lift 40 tons and he gets killed by a later... See what I mean? Stop trying to deny facts, Goku is Universal with Ultra Instinct, but Superman is Multi-Universal.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Differences though, shaking an Infinite multiverse, hmm, struggling to hold a black hole the size of a speck. He is not powerful enough to be multi-universal, feats say he isn't and basic common sense says he isn't. Why do you say he is?
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

So you never read infinite crisis superman. By you saying that clearly means you doubt he did it making it seem that goku can kamhamway a universe in one blast, when superman sneezed one away.look up the picture to infinite crisis superman in the back ground all versions of him through out the multiverse are fighting the same fight goku can't even Jiren in ultra instinct because he ran out of ki.Also if goku doesn't have limits like every fan says he has he would need to use his Saiyan forms,last I check did he have to break a limit to get those forums which means he has limits when superman doesn't he just holds back.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

@Dcfan123 I don't doubt that he did it, I "doubt" that he could do it again. Goku didn't run out of Ki, he ran out of time with his new form Ultra Instinct. Please, please, give me evidence of Superman not having limits, they both do have limits. Give me a scan that current Superman is even near multi-universal, please I would love to see it.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Read his comics that's my scan
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

@Dcfan123: You still haven't proven that Superman has no limits.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

The comics are my proof you just don't read them if you did you being s seeing what I'm seeing
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

You still haven't proven your argument. It doesn't matter what the writers intended, Superman has shown that he struggles with things, thus having LIMITS.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

In what comic store does he struggle in did you read any
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

That Superman book was written by the writers to say that they tried to give him limits but can't because he's superman not goku
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Him getting KNOCKED OUT by destroying the shadow moon, which is only a star level feat.
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Please, he doesn't struggle? You're the one who should stop by the comic store and read some.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Stop usein comic-vine for answers and I do read comics readcomicsonline is a wedsite that allows you to read all the comics of dc marvel even up to today I've bee reading injustice 2 they comic with new issues every week I'm about to start reading the old comics of Superman batman and Wonder Woman.so like I said use the comics to tell me he's has limits
Voted: Superman

Hey bro you can give me the direct link to that comic book fr ee online thing I would love to read a comic
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

http://readcomiconline.to/Search/Comic
Voted: Superman

Ok goku vs superman I'm going with superman i not that familiar with everything goku can do but no looked him up and from my 3 hour research on goku and superman superman power beats goku sure goku can defeat God's but so can superman goku can travel faster than light so can superman goku is basically a giant magic ripoff of superman superman beats does like darkseid Thor shaman black ada m and more I'm pretty sure he can take a human sonic the hedgehog on there no offense that's my opinion so no need to argrue there
MisterB
345 days ago
MisterB
Goku vs Superman
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

If the fight is a best 5 the first 3 wins Superman.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

That's pretty true
3+ years member.
Voted: Superman

And like, where did you hear this? It's never stated in Dragon Ball ever.... it's made out of Ki, you know like drawn from Goku's own power.... like his power doesn't come from uv radiation, it's Ki, from inside, so uhhhh, don't say shit you don't know....
3+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Why the hell did my reply reply to this and not another comment???
Dcfan123
345 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Like I said before the writers make superman a god in his comics. Akira Toryamima mad it to were goku is the underdog Seththeprogrammer said that the fight is "impossible" to say that goku will beat superman. Because the writing style of Superman is ment for him not have limits were in Dragonball goku does have limits that's why he gets a new form everytime and also akira toryamya said goku would lose to goku in a interview.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Na, Seth said that Superman was so damn inconsistent with each writer, some making him, well, basically a god, others making him barely planet level. And if you're gonna reference Seth's videos he also believes Goku would win.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Also fyi the Ki Blast that Goku uses is a form of UV light so that would juat power up Superman so Goku is screwed either way
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Na, it's made out of Ki.
3+ years member.
Voted: Superman

It's not a "form of uv light" it's made up of Ki... where'd you hear that from? Superman fanboy youtubers? That's never been stated in Dragon Ball ever..... It's a Ki blast made up of Ki
Dcfan123
351 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

New 52 superman 2011
Precrisis superman
Rebirth superman 2016
Dragonball z goku
Dragonball super goku
Dragonball goku
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

At this point I've given you evidence and my reasoning as to why I think Superman would win, you've provided me with insignificant feats along with other people's opinions, and your reasoning is basically just "Superman can beat anyone because he's Superman."
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

That how superman was written supes is ment to unrelatedable he ment not to have limits if the people of DC have heard of this battle they probably write superman to take out goku in one hit Akira Toriyama had goku be the underdog but like I said it depends on what universe there fighting in
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Then the writers are failing at their jobs, because Goku would win.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Also, Superman does have limits, if he didn't he would have never been killed by Doomsday.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Doomsday superpower kicked in reactive adaptation allows him to counter all of Superman's powers besides there was a second fight superman wasn't killed he was put in a healing coma came back and fought doomsday a 2nd time it doesn't say anywhere in the comic about him having limits so superman is limitless due his writers
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Him getting beat is proof he has limits and can be damaged by physical damage, not just magic and Kryptonite.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Do you not know what reactive adaptation means because thats how doomsday was able to beat him. The comic says nothing of him haveing limits goku has limits du to running out ki againt kid buu and ultra instant ran out againt jiren and goku has died how many times 3 to 4 time so yeah 1 death is cleary better than 1
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Except Goku grows in strength, Superman is usually never shown growing in strength, with the same writer, that is.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Even if goku grew in strength superman will always written to not have limits goku will have new form everytime that.That superman book that says he has limits is wrong due to the dc multiverse being rebooted in 2011 and now rebirth and thanks Phil Jimenez everything is now canon so superman warping/shattering the infinite multiverse
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Let's take this fight through the ages of comics:
Golden Age:Goku
Silver Age/Bronze Age:Superman
Modern Age:Goku
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

This was taking the fight through the ages of comics, btw. Plus I put golden age with silver age, when I should have had it individually. Goku wins golden age too, which means Goku would beat every single incarnation, with ease, I might add, except silver age, he would still win against silver age, don't get me wrong, but it wouldn't be as easy, maybe mid/high difficulty.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Superman has WAAAAY too many wins at this point.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

I know right
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

So then why did you vote for superman?
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Because I superman as the better hero of the two goku doesn't save people he just s fights people instead of saving the world he fights theme instead. Superman is willing to die for everyone even batman superman is and always will be "Hope" of the the universe
Voted: Goku

Gokus Immortality, Speed and Strength is too much for supes imo
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

superman is a better fighter
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Experience and intelligence beats goku because goku is an idiot
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

and supermans durability is higher
Voted: Goku

I don't know if I agree with the Goku is a better fighter thing but I agree with the other points
Dcfan123
352 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/4/43/Superman_-_Infinite_Crisis.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/779?cb=20160405153425 This image destroys the goku shaking universe feats
Dcfan123
362 days ago
Dcfan123
Goku vs Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

The quote I gave you was from the dragonball wiki from a actually fans when then try to settle if you think I'm lying type in"can goku beat superman" and it comes up everytime
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

People are quoting Death Battle then, it's exactly what Death Battle said. Death Battle did their calculations wrong, and they were using dbz version of Goku instead of super.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

It was written in December 25 2012 a year before the death battle released its battle so no its not quoting death battle an actual fan said that like I said type in "can goku beat superman" find the quote and its December 25 2012 prove me wrong on this
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

superman can heal from all the power attacks
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

That was using DBZ Goku, not Super. Dragon Ball Super Goku would absolutely destroy Superman. Please, give me a canon feat where Superman has ever, ya know shaken an Infinite void with his power, or has been stated to be able to destroy the universe. Like when has Superman even shown near the capability, in canon, to shake or even destroy the Universe?
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Also, that quote is not from that forum, it's from Death Battle.
Voted: Superman

@Dcfan123 soo what one fan, death battle and what you search on google says Superman wins and that's your proof that he wins? Also don't you dare say that more people voted for Superman because if that is the reason you voted for Superman then you have no knowledge of this battle and you shouldn't of voted. Don't mean to come off rude
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

No people voted for Superman because they new he would win goku hasn't even hit 100 i called the fight the minute superman hit 200.And to you Corvus_Glavie type in "can goku beat superman" it's been up for 6 year it's was written in December 25 2012 a mouth before the fight which was in January 19 2013 so this one fan proved the fight and last I checked it can from the Dragonball forum
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

IMABATMAN42 you say its death battle, death battle aired the first fight in January 19 2013 that article was written December 25 2012 a mouth befor the fight some guy named Dark wrote it and it's been up for six years and this said the before the the battle was aired so no he's not quoting death battle you are because you never looked up
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

You haven't provided any evidence for why you think Superman would win, you just gave me someone else's opinion, and they didn't give any evidence either, so please if your going to say false things, at least try and back it up with evidence.
2+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Says the one who thinks shaking the universe is anywhere close to as impressive as destroying it, it though it took the combined power of Beerus and Goku 5.5 punches to do it, also a KameHameHa, which is like equivalent to 30.
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

I agree that it's not that impressive, but when has Superman, in canon, done any thing close to that? And at least I provided evidence as to why I think Goku would win, as did you for why Superman would win, but @Dcfan123 hasn't provided any evidence at all, he is using other people's opinion to backup his argument, not feats or facts.
1+ years member.
Voted: Superman

Dude, sincerally Goku in Super ir weaker than Goku in Dragon Ball Z. At the beginning of Dragon Ball Super Goku was asking himself in the next episode preview if Beerus could really destroy a planet and Beerus had just defeated him Super Saiyan 3... At least in Super Saiyan 1 Dragon Ball Z Goku could surely blow up a planet. Goku in Super Saiyan God wasn't able to escape an explosion in the fight against Beerus (Beerus even taunt him for it and starts saiyng he's bored) while in Z Freeza Saga Goku, at his base form, managed to escape a much more powerful explosion easily (Piccolo then quoted Goku was a monster as he appeared behind him). To finish it: in Dragon Ball Super Anime and Manga Goku got hurt by a bullet. You know what does that mean? That in his base form he's not as fast as the bullet... In Revival of F written by Akira himself Goku in Super Saiyan Blue nearly died by a lazer shot dude... point is: Goku in Super is much more nerfed and Goku neither in Z, GT, Nekomajin, The Movies, Arale or even video games and the classic manga are strong, fast and durable enough to fight the main Continuity Superman or most of his incarnations.