Darkseid vs Silver Surfer

Uxas vs Norrin Radd

Created by: Pete1120

Character 1

Character 2

51 wins (56.7%)

Darkseid

Uxas

51

Powergrid

Intelligence
95
95%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
85
85%
15%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
95
95%

uSTATS

50
Intelligence
95
95%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
80
80%
20%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
90
90%
Based on 91 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender male
Race New God
Height 8'9 // 267 cm
Weight 1815 lb // 817 kg
39 wins (43.3%)

Silver Surfer

Norrin Radd

47

Powergrid

Intelligence
80
80%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
100
100%
0%
Durability
90
90%
Power
100
100%
Combat
35
35%

uSTATS

46
Intelligence
80
80%
Strength
95
95%
Speed
100
100%
0%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
65
65%
Based on 102 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender male
Race Alien
Height 6'4 // 193 cm
Weight 225 lb // 101 kg

Comments

Voted: Darkseid

The fact that there are some people who actually chose surfer is quite depressing
Voted: Darkseid

Silver Surfer is my favorite comic book character, ever, but he just can't win this one.
1+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

Darkseid > Thanos >>>> Thor > Silver Surfer
Voted: Darkseid

Darkseid killed Zeus.
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Voted: Darkseid

darkseid one shots surfer with omega beams.
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Voted: Darkseid

How does Darkseid lose this?
2+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

Darkseid is much much stronger then SS
1+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

Well, Silver Surfer is much faster than Darkseid.
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Voted: Darkseid

darkseid is stronger
2+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

Thanks @God_of_Thunder I'm glad we think the same way in this fight. You asked about the Sentry, he is a human in origin, that became a meta-human with godlike powers, it is not really realistic on how a man made serum could make a human so powerful, although it did also have its down sides, it made him mentally unstable. This sets him apart from the Aliens and gods you mentioned I think .
3+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

There is also always some trouble when puting characters from two diffrent universes against each other as they work a bit diffrently.
Thanks for youre explanation about Darkseid in the Forum section.
Ok i have heard from another Dc fan Darkseid is not that old but if this is the way it realy is than he should be the victorious versus a seriously much younger Silver Surfer !
This is of realy great importance in my mind also
3+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

As i see it they are all at about the same power level as i tried to explain a battle between them may very well end in one way or the other.
They all are Gods at Sky father level but when decide a winner in such a battle i choose the original Gods and not the new ones. You ask about Odin and Zeus and yes they are at the same power level also but in the Marvel universe Odin is to be consider the number one Sky father.
As i wrote i have not question youre knowledge or opinion we are close of being of same opinion.
Also in my tree i explained what my biggest problem is and its not about the characters you mentioned.
2+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

I'm using the Dc comics encyclopedia as a reference to this, it's States that the New Gods came into being, before time was even measured. Whenever that was 😆 Although both Darkseid and Highfather existed before the New gods came to be. @God_of_Thunder is there any argument you can make that suggests that Highfather and Darkseid are not on the same level as Odin or Zues?
3+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

Galctus = Antimonitor > Odin > Mighty Thor > Darkseid = Silver Surfer > Superman > Sentry > Wonder woman
This is the way i see it but there is something very wrong with this tree of victory and its the Sentry. He is not a God, not either is he a Super powerful Alien or a Demigod !
In my opinion Marvel comics should have given him a more powerful origin of power its to weak having injected a super serum created by human scientists becoming a Mutate. All characters in this tree got more powerful Origins they are far abouve the Human species !
The battle Silver Surfer versus Darkseid is for me realy hard to decide i choose a draw !
How old is the New God is he a couple of hundred or several thousends  ?
I think bouth of you got good arguements.
I dont think any of them may be compared to the devourer of worlds Galactus he is even slightly abouve Odin the All Father.
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

Ok, now I am officially done debating. You dont know how Darkseid is going to win so you keep dodging my question, I see how it is. Im done, Im just done
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Voted: Darkseid

Well as you stated Darkseid stole the powers of the Old gods so he dose have the power to do so.
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Voted: Silver Surfer

I keep debating because I never said I would stop, unlike you who said you were done, but kept going. I have the right to keep debating. Anyways, I think it is funny that you say Darkseid would win but still, after me asking twice, have not answered my question. Have you ever asked yourself that maybe he doesnt have the power to do so?
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

Your right, I dont know if your lying or not. But from the looks of it, it seems as if your lying your ass off. You have given me false information throughout the whole debate. Im not sure you even have an encyclopedia as you so profoundly proclaim. You could be reading from the DC wikia for all I know.
2+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

Darkseid created Apokolips, Highfather created New Genesis and yes I'm done debating. I know Darkseid wins this fight in my opinion and I think I'm accurate. The only reason you continue debating about this is because you are a marvel fanboy.
2+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

@SirSpidey you can't usume I'm a lying if you haven't even read or even seen the Dc comics encyclopedia, I own it myself I use it for all my references, I also own the Marvel comics encyclopedia. This is perhaps the best place for information, I suggest you read them.
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

Also, I think your confused about Darkseids title, New God. New Gods are not gods as there name suggests, but some what of a powerful race from the planets of New Genesis and Apokolips. That is a very common misconception but they are not gods
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

@Spectre94: Now I know that you are flat out lying to me. You have not read the DC encyclopedias. You have not done your research. You know how I know this? Because Yuga Khan is not an Old God he is a New God. Also, Anti Monitor was in a weaker state after fighting off the rest of the DC universe. If he was at full power Darkseid would be gone in a split second. Anyways, I thought you were done debating this? I guess fanboys dont have enough disipline to keep there word
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Voted: Silver Surfer

Guys its 50-50 Lets just call it a tie.
2+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

@SirSpidey I've read straight from the Dc comics encyclopedia, and it states that Darkseid is a god by heritage. (Yuga Khan was an Old god also Darkseids father) it also states that he is on the same level as Anti-monitor and Trigon. Plus Anti-monitor didn't obliterate him, the Black racer helped weaken Darkseid, I've read the comic.
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

@Spectre94: I have done my research, I think it is you who needs a little refresher. Silver Surfer may be a pawn, a pawn to one of the most powerful beings in the Marvel universe who exponentially surpasses Darkseid. A pawn that recieved the most powerful powers, the Power Cosmic. Of course the Silver Surfer, who serves a being that has been around since the beginning of time and that wields the Power Cosmic, will destroy an alien that has only been around for thousands of years. The only instance that I have found where Darkseid faces Anti Monitor is in Justice League: The Darkseid War where Anti Monitor obliterates Darkseid and goes on to fight more of the Justice League. I suspect that you have found an instance where Darkseid fights Anti Monitor when he is weak and not at his full potential due to not enough universes devoured. As I said, one thought of Darkseid dying is enough for Anti Monitor to erase him from existence. Hopefully youll marinate on this and come to your senses
1+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

Assuming Darkseid and SS are both at their full power.
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Voted: Darkseid

@SirSpidey @Spectre94. Darkseid won't win using brute strength or Omega Beams. He'll win using the thing that defeats any hero/villain/neutral character. He'll use the Anti-Life Equation.
2+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

Darkseid > Thor > Silver Surfer > Superman
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Voted: Darkseid

@SirSpidey Im done debating this, I don't know where you get your information but I think you need read more about these characters. There is no way a pawn of Galactus defeats a god of several thousand years experience. Darkseid is on the same level as Anti-monitor, he has faced and nearly defeated him.
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

im just here to throw shade and watch this debate with some popcorn.
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Voted: Silver Surfer

@wolfdragon123:
Thor > Silver Surfer > Darkseid > Superman
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

@Spectre94: Damn, how many times can you be wrong about something? Asgardians are not gods, same for the New Gods. Thor is a god because his mother was the godess of the Earth. Asgardians are also some what immortal because they eat from Idunn's golden apples which renew there age ontop of there longer than human life span. Also, if Darkseid can live indefinitely and exist outside of time and space and is immortal, explain to me how a bullet can kill him? Darkseid is not a cosmic being, he is but an alien of the people from Earth. I have proven that Omega Beams wont work on Silver Surfer so therefore how is Darkseid going to beat Silver Surfer? Darkseid is nowhere near the power of Anti Monitor, Anti Monitor would erase Darkseid from existence with a thought
3+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

Darkseid > Superman > Thor ≥ Silver Surfer
2+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

Marvel based it's mythology on the gods of ancient Norse mythology, Dc created it's own mythology of gods. Both Asgardians and new gods are a race of gods in the worlds of comics. Being immortal means you can live for ever, this is true in Silver Surfer's case, but even Asgardians eventually age and die, this is not the case for new gods, they live indefinitely, they are outside time and space. Darkseid will survive any blast, as he is near invulnerable to physically harm, and any cosmic attacks will have next to no effect, because Darkseid is a cosmic being himself. I've stated the way Darkseid would defeat the Surfer. But if you still think Silver Surfer wins consider this Darkseid is on the same level as Anti-monitor, Norrin is a pawn to characters at this level.
1+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

Here we go. You should see that both Silver Surfer AND Darkseid are BOTH listed as immortal, they both have no limits to their strength, and they are both invulnerable. Darkseid can withstand punches from Superman (a hero who also has unlimited strength) and Silver Surfer can become intangible meaning he can't be hurt. There isn't much either of them can do to each other meaning this battle will most likely end in a draw. But I do have to give a very slight edge to Darkseid because of the Anti-Life Equation which would eliminate Silver Surfers will to keep living.
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

No he is someone from a different race. If Silver Surfer is immortal then he cannot die, thats what immortal means, correct? I have explained how Silver Surfer will win, on the other hand you have not once tried to explain to me how Darkseid would win, please explain. Also, the god wave didnt create the New Gods, they only created the Old Gods and the New Gods came to be by defeating the Old Gods and gaining there power
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Voted: Darkseid

The new god is a entity, Silver Surfer is immortal yes but he can be killed, Darkseid can't he would just come back because he is truly immortal, I cannot find anyway that Silver Surfer Defeats Darkseid. in the Dc universe the same energy called the god wave gave life to the gods of ancient mythology and also the new gods.
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Voted: Silver Surfer

And not one Omega Beam will do anything to Silver Surfer because, as you put it, he is immortal. Also Darkseids beams wouldnt even be capable of touching Silver Surfer. You are wrong in two things:
#1. Darkseid is not a cosmic entity
#2. There is zero Norse mythology in DC comics
#4. Darkseid was not created by the "energies" that made the true gods, he merely stole there power by defeating them, so therefore Darkseid does not have the heritage of gods
2+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

Not one cosmic blast will harm Darkseid, he is a immortal cosmic entity, on the other hand Darkseids omega effect is capable of wiping the Surfer from existence. In the DC universe the same energies that created the gods of Greek and Norse mythology also created the new gods so Darkseid has a heritage of a god.
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

Silver Surfer will eventually win by over powering Darkseid with millions of his planetary destroyong blasts. Darkseid is sometimes not even considered a god, his title literally sums it all up, "New God". Unlike Thor, he is a "god", not some being Marvel made up out of the blue but a full pledged god of Norse mythology
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Voted: Darkseid

So how is Silver Surfer going to win this fight? I'll say it again Darkseid is a fictional god, Thor is just a fictional interpretation of the ancient mythology god, and they are both considered comic book gods of today.
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

Also, just because someone is worshipped doesnt mean they are a god. Darkseid might be considered a god in his own race of people but not other races. Thor is a well known god that has been around before Marvel inherited his character. He has been around since whenever Norse mythology came to be, which is probably thousands of years old. Darkseid should not be considered a true god because he was created only about 40 years ago
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

Oh, I didnt see where it said Darkseid is not affected by time manipulation. Though, I still think Silver Surfer is more than capable of defeating Darkseid because Darkseid couldnt even touch Silver Surfer, even if he used the Omega Beams
2+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

Well if you did read his abilities it does say that he can't be effect by matter and time manipulation. And yes Darkseid is a fictional character, but still a god worshipped by lesser beings, same as Thor and Odin in norse mythology, Dc just made a new god because why not, be creative.
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

#1. Yes he is a god, a god that DC just made up out of the blue. Personally he should not be called a god
#2. Silver Surfer is too immortal
#3. You cant just say going back in time wont work, thats like saying Legion cant reality warp on Superman because Superman is "too powerful"
#4. No where in Darkseids abilities does it say that he can travel back in time
Im sorry, I dont see any circumstance where Darkseid wins. Silver Surfer just out classes him
2+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

Darkseid is fictional god, yes, but he is still a god of several thousand years, he is also a powerful cosmic entity who wields the omega effect, Silver Surfer cannot defeat the new god because he is immortal, not even time altering, will effect him. Darkseid could also travel to Norrin Radd's past, or easily erase the Surfer from existence.
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

And dont get me started on the speed advantage
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Voted: Silver Surfer

Or Silver Surfer goes back in time and kills Darkseid as a baby. Guys, Silver Surfer has the power advantage because of the Power Cosmic. Also Darkseid is no true god. He is a "New god", a type of race that DC made up. He didnt derive from Norse mythology, or even greek mythology. He is a mere resemblance, or fraction, of a god from mythology
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Voted: Darkseid

Darkseid would beat him into the ground
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Voted: Silver Surfer

I voted SS mainly because of his Power Cosmic. He will be able to take quite a few hits and dish out his own in the same respects. His phasing also gives him a good advantage, I think ti would be close and if Darkseid gets too many hits in SS will go down, but Surfer should be able to avoid most of his attacks. So I voted Surfer.
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

Your the man overlord thanks for the vote for surfer,idc what people say hes passive,but he isnt going to just let let someone kick his ass!!!!Has anyone read the infinity gauntlet series????Yea I get its old and they update people,but you get to see who is strong and weak in that comic!!!!Dr strange and Adam Warlock,in my option are Def high up there,then Silver Surfer!But you have others like the Watcher, Living Tribunal,Beyonder,Eternity!they are just on a different level,and you would only get good matches facing them against each other!!!!
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

Some characters have the ability to create wormholes in time and space.sorry darksied,Norrin is the man,yes he is peaceful,but he would defend himself,and blast him into a black hole if he need's too,and that is the reason I give it to the surfer!!!!
2+ years member.
Not voted yet

Wow. This is a good one. I think it comes down to the flip of a coin on this one. Any given day.
2+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

The same outcome as Thor vs Silver Surfer, the warrior god will be victorious! I personally think with ease.
3+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

close call but darkseid wins 8 out of 10 times
3+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

I can see some very good arguments for Darkseid in the coments.
The Omega beams is realy powerful and may probably kill close to who ever is hit !
The Silver Surfer is not a warrior, this is also very true. Norrin was a scientist before he was transformed by the Power cosmic. The Silver surfer is very close to invunerable and may probably sustain a blast or two before he is knocked out.
He may also generate force fields or shields of incredible durability.
This is indeed a very good battle that i think Silver surfer wins slightly more often than Darkseid. I think the most powerful superheroes there is may be victorious versus the villian. Mighty Thor have injured and forced even more powerful characters to run. Superman have defeated the new god i think, Martian Manhunter and Dr Manhattan is also powerful enough to be able to defeat Darkseid.
Bouth Darkseid and Thanos is incredibly powerful and dangerous villians, no one defeats them for surtain !
3+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

The omega beams have harmed beings as powerful as the anti monitor(burned through his Armour). They are powerful enough to knockout the silver surfer
3+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

DC gave the new Darkseid an upgrade stood his ground against the anti monitor and almost won in darkseid war he wins
2+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

I have to say Darkseid. It is a very close fight. But I feel Darkseid just one ups Silver Surfer by a little.
2+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

I'm undecided on this battle, Both are vastly powerful cosmic entities, the Surfer was granted the power cosmic by Galactus the Devourer of Worlds, this gives him various capabilities. Darkseid, is a god of immense strength and power, near no hero in the Dc universe, can even challenge him, it's been stated that Silver Surfer is a pawn to more powerful characters, yes Norrin is vastly powerful but is no warrior, I to agree, Darkseid would not hesitate erasing the Surfer from existents.
3+ years member.
Voted: Darkseid

Silver surfer is too passive Darkseid shows no mercy ...Plus JL > Fantastic 4! After an omega beam knocks SS off his board he gets handled in hand to hand combat.....Although SS is no joke very powerful foe he is a pawn and the other is a boss IMO
3+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

Darkseid is a very powerful villain that very few superheroes may defeat by themself. The Silver surfer is one of them, the source of his power the power cosmic makes him Incredibly powerful. The silvery demigod of the universe will be the victorious, very few may defeat him.
2+ years member.
Voted: Silver Surfer

Power Cosmic.. Nuff said.

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