Dr Manhattan vs Phoenix

Jonathan Osterman vs Jean Grey

Created by: God_of_Thunder

Character 1

Character 2

37 wins (56.1%)

Dr Manhattan

Jonathan Osterman

48

Powergrid

Intelligence
100
100%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
45
45%
55%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
45
45%
29 wins (43.9%)

Phoenix

Jean Grey

47

Powergrid

Intelligence
100
100%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
85
85%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
80
80%

uSTATS

44
Intelligence
95
95%
Strength
90
90%
Speed
90
90%
Durability
95
95%
Power
100
100%
Combat
85
85%
Based on 84 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender female
Race Mutant
Height 5'6 // 168 cm
Weight 115 lb // 52 kg

Comments

1+ years member.
Voted: Dr Manhattan

if its movie manhattan and took place then phoenix would win. But his character from the comics would beat phoenix. The Dr. Manhattan from the movies was overwhelmed by a group of reporters surrounding him in a lit studio, no sentient being of calm, sound mind and body would react that way. He was naive and new with his powers and a phoenix would easily mind manipulate him. seeing as how he was manipulated by Ozymandias without being mind controlled.
Voted: Phoenix

as you said ( I think it was your video ) Manhattan has never faced beings on a level similar to his
Voted: Dr Manhattan

Sorry if I'm pestering you lol but this was one of my favourite vids you've made.
Voted: Phoenix

are we annoying you @Dan?
Voted: Phoenix

I don't get pestered it's fine, and yes this was a hard fight as both were extremely powerful
1+ years member.
Voted: Dr Manhattan

The guy who made Mxyzptlk his bitch wins.
Voted: Dr Manhattan

we all know that doctor mahattan would win
1+ years member.
Voted: Phoenix

You sure about that?
Voted: Phoenix

Now this is a match but since it's not dark Phoenix Manhattan wins cause Thor easily koed phoenix
Voted: Dr Manhattan

As much as the Phoenix is powerful, Dr Manhattan can rearrange atoms. Dr Manhattan could disintegrate Jean to the atomic level. Through out many story lines, it has been seen that both the Phoenix force and Jean Grey always return, but Jean's return is normally because of the Phoenix force or some inconsistent and confusing reason. The Phoenix may be incredibly powerful, but she has been defeated by the X-men and other heroes multiple times, and Dr Manhattan is well above any of the X-men. I believe that Dr Manhattan is able to kill Jean Grey, or at least put her in a temporary coma, but I do not believe Dr Manhattan can eliminate the Phoenix force permanently. All in all, Dr Manhattan my not be able to win a war against the Phoenix, but he can most likely win a battle, and in this case, this battle.
1+ years member.
Voted: Phoenix

My friend Phoenix can also manipulate atoms at the molecular level and is one of the very best in the Marvel universe at doing it. She will be able to survive and compete against his. As to her loses, she only ever loses when she wants to, when she realizes that she is killing innocents and doing more harm then good, she chooses to die. And even then it takes all the Xmen and sometimes the Avengers to do it. When she is on a good day she can drive away Galatus(Yes he was hungry but still)defeat multiple of his heralds at once, and destroy entire systems with a wave of her hand. Manhattan simply doesn't have enough feats to prove that he can beat that, much less survive it.
1+ years member.
Voted: Phoenix

Dr Manhattan is a very powerful being, but he exists in a universe where people don't have Superpowers, in his world he is the only one. He has never had to fight anyone or anything nearly as powerful as Phoenix. In contrast, Phoenix fights powerful beings n a daily basis, and her powers are attuned and battle hardened. They also have a very similar power set. However, Jean's powers have no upper limit because the phoenix Force has unlimited power, while Dr. manhattan has expressely stated he has limits. For instance, manhattan stated himself that if all the Russian nukes went up he could destroy 0 before they made impact, which at the height of the cold war is alot but nothing close to the cosmic molecular manipulation of Phoenix, who has used molecular manipulation to destroy cities, planets, and beings of extraordinary power. Simply put, manhattan hasn't got the feats to prove a victory, while Phoenix has feats for days.
3+ years member.
Voted: Phoenix

Can Phoenix manipulate time or warp reality?
1+ years member.
Voted: Phoenix

Yes, in terms of Reality manipulation she has shown that she is more then capable, whereas manhattan's best feats of reality manipulation are fairly small and simple. As for temporal manipulation, Manhattan struggled to undue 10 years of history, Phoenix once killed herself in the past but still exists in the future. Also, Phoenix as an entity exists singularly in both the past and the present, meaning it can bring its host to anytime period. Which is what it did when Jean wanted to undue her past. And again, the power and feats difference is insane, and Manhattan may not even have to to warp or manipulate time and reality before Phoenix drains him. Again, he has never had to fight someone as immensely powerful as Phoenix, he will be completely unprepared for her.
3+ years member.
Voted: Phoenix

OK, I'll change my vote for now. Hopefully the Doomsday Clock story will better demonstrate Dr Manhattan's power capabilities and potential.
1+ years member.
Voted: Phoenix

Yeah Phoenix wouldn't lose

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