Thor (Odin Force) vs Zatanna (Full Potential)

Thor Odinson vs Zatanna Zatara

Created by: DarkProdigy

Character 1

Character 2

7 wins (46.7%)

Thor (Odin Force)

Thor Odinson

53

Powergrid

Intelligence
85
85%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
90
90%
10%
Durability
95
95%
Power
100
100%
Combat
100
100%

uSTATS

55
Intelligence
95
95%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
100
100%
0%
Durability
100
100%
Power
100
100%
Combat
100
100%
Based on 11 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender male
Race -
Height - // 0 cm
Weight - lb // 0 kg
8 wins (53.3%)

Zatanna (Full Potential)

Zatanna Zatara

48

Powergrid

Intelligence
75
75%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
100
100%
0%
Durability
65
65%
Power
100
100%
Combat
65
65%

uSTATS

53
Intelligence
100
100%
Strength
95
95%
Speed
95
95%
5%
Durability
95
95%
Power
100
100%
Combat
100
100%
Based on 19 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender female
Race Human
Height 5'8 // 173 cm
Weight 128 lb // 58 kg

Comments

Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

FP Zatanna > Doctor Fate > OF Thor
Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

Agreed.
Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

In Seven Soldiers: Zatanna. But this is not that version. This is the version from JLA Dark, where she is constantly described as the most powerful member, above the likes of Swamp Thing, Doctor Fate and Captain Atom, all of whom are stronger than OF Thor.
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Voted: Thor (Odin Force)

Doesn't matter if she's described that way. What matters is feats
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Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

She one-shot Swamp Thing, who is on the level of Spectre at his lowest power.
Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

Who reported me? And yeah, she is supposed to be above Swamp Thing, who is leagues above Thor.
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Swamp Thing doesn't come close to Specter until he gains the total power of the Green and even then he falls incredibly short of Specter in terms of power.
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Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

He casually restored the Green all across the infinite multiverse, that's a Spectre level feat. He was also unaffected by the Crisis on Infinite Earths.
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That is nowhere near Specter level, because A. There are more planets WITHOUT plants, then planets that have them, and B. That is at most infinite 3rd dimensional whereas Specter is around 6th dimensional because he is stronger than Mr. Mxy, Swamp Thing isn't even close.
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Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

The entirety of the multiverse is 4th dimensional, and it's infinite, so infinite 4th dimensional. Which is Spectre level. And Spectre is weaker than Mxy. Every time Spectre's faced a 5D being, he's been defeated.
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Correction: That makes Swamp Thing at most 4th dimensional so Specter is still infinitely stronger.
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Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

Spectre's 4D too.
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No, Specter is 5th dimensional because he can contend with Mr. Mxy so Specter has to be 5th dimensional by scaling. And restoring all the Green is not infinite 4th dimensional it is only 1/8th of 4th dimensional, because our solar system has 8 planets (9 if you count Pluto) and if that is repeated multiple times then out of every universe he would only be responsible for 1/8th of all the planets so not infinite 4th.
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Because out of every 8 planets only 1 has plants on it.
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Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

Spectre has been stomped by Mxy every time they've had a conflict with each other. He's only 4D, because he fought with The Anti-Monitor. And The Green exists connected to all of creation, so it is infinite 4D.
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Show me evidence of every time Mr. Mxy stomped him.
And that still only makes Swamp Thing infinite 3rd at most base 4th.
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Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

https://m.imgur.com/a/fceNW
Emperor Joker easily corrupts The Spectre.
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http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_ej11.jpg
Emperor Joker corrupts Phantom Stranger, the equal to Spectre, and several others at once.
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I don't have the scan, but Mxy casually restrained Spectre in Injustice. And before you say Injustice isn't canon, Mxy exists the same throughout all universes.
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And how the hell does that not make him infinite 4D? All of creation includes time, which is 4D.
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Nothing suggests that is all creation, that is just simply not true.
Emperor Joker is not at all cannon so it can't be used, and regardless in none of those is it Unbound Specter, all those accounts he had hosts, why else do you think in Injustice he had trouble finding Doctor Fate's tower and it is even said in it that Specter was weaker, and he clearly is during Injustice.
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And corrupting Specter, he did nothing of the sort, Joker was imitating Specter to give Superman a false sense of familiarity, he didn't corrupt anything.
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And final case and point, Phantom Stranger is weaker than Specter, he tied with him once, and the other time Stranger got bodied, and was turned into a mouse, a loss and a tie means you are weaker than that person.
Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

Phantom Stranger, as of currently, is absolutely equal to Spectre. Said so by the Presence, you know, the all-knowing/omniscient character.
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Give me the scan, and using his fact from Injustice that same comic Specter laughed off Stranger, so I don't know why Tracer even brought up Injustice, and I still have not seen the scan of the two fighting or of The Presence stating they were equal, you guys keep using the same argument with no proof. And don't try to derail this, Specter is equal to or stronger than Mr. Mxy and Swamp Thing is nowhere near any of them in terms of power.
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Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

So the infinite multiverse isn't all of creation? Yeah, because that makes sense.
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Emperor Joker has the power of Mxy, who is always canon because he exists across everything. Why are you bringing up Spectre with a host? Unbound Spectre is far stronger than Mxy, but I never mentioned Unbound.
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Spectre himself says; "It is taking all my remaining will to pass on this feeble alarm... because very soon, he will have me helplessly caged like all the others." Emperor Joker was not imitating The Spectre.
Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

Phantom Stranger #4-#5. Somewhere here. They fought and neither one of them was gaining the edge.
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I didn't even mention Swamp Thing being near Spectre, I'm not sure if you're telling me or @LordTracer, but since we're on the subject, Swamp Thing at his peak is above both Mxy and Spectre.
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Give me evidence of it being "of all creation" you have not proven it is of all creation.
He was obviously imitating him, why the hell else do you think it was Joker's face and after he removed the cloak he became a simple face and Specter disappeared? BECAUSE he was fooling with his mind and that was not the real Specter, and if Specter was able to resist then he has to be comparable to him because he resisted him for a while, and he said "soon" meaning it had not yet happened.
You brought up the fight with AM, and according to you that was Unbound Specter that fought AM, so caught you there.
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@Sora. that was aimed at Tracer because he said base Swamp Thing was stronger than Specter.
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And I' not reading an entire comic to find it, just give me the scan.
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Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/0/07/Multiversal_Green.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161129055621
"The
Green touches all realms... all spaces."
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Barely able to resist. As he said, it was taking all of his will just to send a message to Superman.
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I was wrong about that previously. It was Corrigan Spectre who fought The Anti-Monitor. Unbound Spectre is somewhat comparable to Michael Demiurgos.
Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

https://m.imgur.com/LP1wUkv
This might be confusing, but the dog is The Presence. He not only said that if they continue to fight "it wouldn't end well for all Creation", he also said that both of them have "cosmic roles" to play "each one balancing the other".
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It says all realms and spaces, nothing about time, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say his is 4th dimensional WHEN he is using the full power of the green which is Swamp Thing at his strongest, in his base he is only using a small sample of it so with all of the green he is 4th dimensional but base he is not.
But even barely means he had at least a portion of his power, and a portion of 5th dimensional power, is still at east base 5th dimensional which still has him above Swamp Thing.
You admitted Unbound Specter was stronger, and that was the point I was trying to make, so host Specter is 4th dimensional but Unbound is 5th.
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Alright, so they fought, BUT he said their roles balance each other out and a role is different then actual power. Look at Dragon Ball for example, a Kiao Shin's role is to create life, but a God of Destruction's role is to destroy life both of those roles cancel out but Gods of Destruction are incredibly more powerful than Kiao Shins.
Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

You make a good point, but think about it. Why would Presence intervene? He said Creation would end if they continued fighting and time was frozen while they were fighting. This tells us that they would fight for the rest of eternity, if Presence didn't say something about it.
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That is a good counter-point, I have no doubt they would destroy a good majority of everything, but if the fight was stopped before a conclusion than that means there was no winner decided and the main reason is because the writer of the story had to write himself out of a corner, and use a plot device such as the Presence to stop it so he could continue the story which is why the phone rang so the story could continue, if one had defeated the other than the story he has panned he would not be able to enact apon, but to shorten this, if a fight between two people is inconclusive, to decide who would have won you need to use their other feats and Specter overall has better feats, so Phantom may be comparable to Specter but still falls slightly short. Now this could change in the future but as of now most signs are pointing to Specter being superior even if not by much.
Voted: Thor (Odin Force)

Lol I accidentally reported you @windshadow, my bad
Voted: Zatanna (Full Potential)

I agree, Spectre has more consistant feats, however the Stranger has always described as someone in Spectre's league. If we look at feats Spectre is slightly superior to Phantom Stranger, but if we look at the overall picture, he is equal to him. I think it's safe to assume that both of them have the same power level.
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Looking at the overall picture, Specter has better feats, so therefor he is stronger than Phantom Stranger, can't use assumptions only facts, and just being called a "rival" doesn't mean they are equal, they are just comparable to each other, and that aside Specter has better feats, Specter is stronger until proven otherwise.
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Voted: Thor (Odin Force)

Who wins?
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In which comic has Zatanna destroyed multiple Universes?

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