Batman vs Captain America

Bruce Wayne vs Steve Rogers

Created by: Tbanger18

Character 1

Character 2

263 wins (61.9%)

Batman

Bruce Wayne

10

Powergrid

Intelligence
100
100%
Strength
20
20%
Speed
30
30%
Durability
50
50%
Power
50
50%
Combat
100
100%

uSTATS

11
Intelligence
100
100%
Strength
50
50%
Speed
50
50%
Durability
60
60%
Power
55
55%
Combat
100
100%
Based on 367 entries.

Strength level

500 kg (1,100 lb)

Appearence

Gender male
Race Human
Height 6'2 // 188 cm
Weight 210 lb // 95 kg
162 wins (38.1%)

Captain America

Steve Rogers

7

Powergrid

Intelligence
85
85%
Strength
20
20%
Speed
40
40%
Durability
55
55%
Power
60
60%
Combat
100
100%

uSTATS

7
Intelligence
75
75%
Strength
55
55%
Speed
60
60%
Durability
70
70%
Power
60
60%
Combat
95
95%
Based on 209 entries.

Strength level

600 kg (1,320 lb)

Appearence

Gender male
Race Human
Height 6'2 // 188 cm
Weight 240 lb // 108 kg

Comments

Voted: Captain America

Captain America would win cause he faced god's in the comics and even outclasses he even survived half a minute with Thanks himself
Voted: Batman

He can catch his shield throw it to the side and make him be defenseless, his gadgets, weapons, suits, his intelligence, he got trained by masters, mastered 127 Martial Arts, when Captain America was in the military he sucked , he is only good because of the super soldier serum.
Voted: Batman

Captain America is faster stronger and more durable but Batman is the better fighter has better weapons and could just sneak behind him and backstab hin
Voted: Batman

Correct me if I'm wrong, in a non-canon crossover, Batman did beat Captain America in a fight. I'm not gonna sit here say "with prep time he can beat Cap" because that's a stupid argument. In this fight, Batman doesn't need prep time to win. Physically, Captain is stronger and faster, but he doesn't have the same gadgets Batman has. Batman beats Captain America, but Steve Rogers beats Bruce Wayne. What I'm trying to say is, Bruce Wayne has better odds beating Cap when he has the suit on. Take that suit off and his chances drop. Even without suits, Bruce still might be able to take out Cap, but I'd say Steve would win.
Voted: Batman

Correct me if I'm wrong, in a non-canon crossover, Batman did beat Captain America in a fight. I'm not gonna sit here say "with prep time he can beat Cap" because that's a stupid argument. In this fight, Batman doesn't need prep time to win. Physically, Captain is stronger and faster, but he doesn't have the same gadgets Batman has. Batman beats Captain America, but Steve Rogers beats Bruce Wayne. What I'm trying to say is, Bruce Wayne has better odds beating Cap when he has the suit on. Take that suit off and his chances drop. Even without suits, Bruce still might be able to take out Cap, but I'd say Steve would win.
Voted: Batman

Correct me if I'm wrong, in a non-canon crossover, Batman did beat Captain America in a fight. I'm not gonna sit here say "with prep time he can beat Cap" because that's a stupid argument. In this fight, Batman doesn't need prep time to win. Physically, Captain is stronger and faster, but he doesn't have the same gadgets Batman has. Batman beats Captain America, but Steve Rogers beats Bruce Wayne. What I'm trying to say is, Bruce Wayne has better odds beating Cap when he has the suit on. Take that suit off and his chances drop. Even without suits, Bruce still might be able to take out Cap, but I'd say Steve would win.
Voted: Batman

Correct me if I'm wrong, in a non-canon crossover, Batman did beat Captain America in a fight. I'm not gonna sit here say "with prep time he can beat Cap" because that's a stupid argument. In this fight, Batman doesn't need prep time to win. Physically, Captain is stronger and faster, but he doesn't have the same gadgets Batman has. Batman beats Captain America, but Steve Rogers beats Bruce Wayne. What I'm trying to say is, Bruce Wayne has better odds beating Cap when he has the suit on. Take that suit off and his chances drop. Even without suits, Bruce still might be able to take out Cap, but I'd say Steve would win.
Voted: Batman

https://m.imgur.com/LgTpmbj .
Kicks a tree in half
Gotham Knights #1
Voted: Batman

https://m.imgur.com/a/jaNxd .
Batman saves a guy from a moving train and dodges gunfire right after.
Legends of the Dark Knight #176
While poisoned and injured he cracked a bazooka proof glass .
Batman Chronicles #8
Voted: Batman

Batman wins this one.
Voted: Batman

Superman can beat Captain America, Batman can beat Superman. So it's all settled. Bats walks away with the win. Cap wouldn't be alive if it weren't for Bats. Batman beat him once, he'll just do it again.
Voted: Captain America

That wasn't even canon it was a crossover. I'm surprised people still don't recognize this and Batman cannot defeat Superman in an honest random encounter. Bruce would be demolished within 5 seconds unless he miraculously had kryptonite in his arsenal.
Voted: Batman

Ok so captain America Issue 46 Volume 2 read it and watch Captain america winter soldier holding a helicopter in place so captain America swings his shield and Batman catches it and grappling hooks it to a hill say they're in the woods on a road captain America IS super human and punches Bruce like Bruce's armor punches and hurts Bruce a lot so Batman punches cap in the face cap back handsprings to the hill to retrieve his shield throws it this time hits Batman it comes back he catches it and hits Batman right in the mouth making him bleed and then knocking him over Batman punches cap in the face multiple times and throws cap off of him he tells Alfred to get the batwing ready so they fight until it arrives cap calls him a coward Bruce gets in and rams it right into him until they hit a hill and cap is stabbed by the front of the batwing Batman continuously punches cap until he's knocked out and then cap grabs Bruce by his mask and throws him on a hill and captain America (with his super strength pushed the batwing out of him and runs and does a Superman punch to Bruce right in the face Bruce falls over and uses his Batarang to stab cap in the leg and knees cap in the face knocking him over and then Batman lifts cap up by the hair and slams him on the ground leaving him to die
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Voted: Batman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_BVqa4gpdM
Pick your winner...
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Voted: Batman

Cap has better brute strength, experience and adaptation skills. BUt Batman more skillful, much smarter, has better arsenaşl, Batman also much more versatile cqc fighter due to both better Martial Art proficiency and gadgets.
Cap is a great soldier, commander and fighter. Basically a military dude.
Batman is also a great fighter but also has better gear, gadgets , has better martial art proficiency, smarter, he is also a good leader too , plus he is a detective, scientist, engineer, playboy, vigilante, etc, etc.
Too much versatility for Cap. Anc Cap's super powers aint good enough to close this gap. Cuz Batman already is a dude who keeps fighting guys like Grundy, Bane and Killer Croc on daily basis.
Voted: Captain America

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Voted: Batman

Anyone who thinks Batman can't dodge or catch the shield is nuts...and let's assume Cap is as skilled as Batman (which he is not), if he throws it, now we're talking about a genius with armor and an arsenal of weapons and another guy who has just lost his primary weapon
Voted: Batman

so true
Voted: Batman

Ehh what?
Voted: Captain America

Who may be able to dodge it once but the second time around he'll be on the ground. What on his arsenal will effectively stop Cap from defeating him? Bruce will be throw down in a hand to hand battle but his fatigue will cause him to falter and Cap will still he rejuvenated and pounce him into the ground.
Voted: Batman

Batman is more than a fighter so he wins in this match up.
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Voted: Batman

A lot of people don't seem to understand that Captain America is peak human not super-human.
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Voted: Batman

His limits are the same as Batman's
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Well, he is more than any human could ever dream of being, so I think it is safe to say that Captain America is superhuman
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

In real life, yes (obviously) but no human can do the things that Batman does either...and in the fictional comic world, according to Marvel themselves (check their website) Cap was "enhanced to the peak of human potential" and "performed just under super-human levels"...everyone is confusing super-human with enhanced, he was only "enhanced" to peak human...so it is not safe to say that, that is jut an assumption, which happens to be incorrect
Voted: Captain America

This fight is close with or without prep time. So without it would be Captain America he would just out last Batman. With prep Batman, because he would find a way to even odds and make fight shorter. Either way long and close figh.
Voted: Captain America

Well said and my exact viewpoint.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

While I do think Cap has the advantage in stamina, the difference probably isn't as great as you may think...while training to become Batman, Bruce once fought 28 hours straight in a gauntlet with death-match rules, because he refused to kill so they kept sending more and more men only to continually be incapacitated by him and eventually everyone was too afraid to fight him. And hand-to-hand Batman is top 5 in DC, Captain America is top 10 in marvel (Bruce is basically Steve Rogers with Tony Stark's intelligence and resources [Tony is slightly smarter and wealtheir...Bruce is a better strategist/tactician though] and the temperament of wolverine.
Voted: Captain America

nothing batman throws at captain america will go through caps shield because its vibranium and not even thors hammer can break it
4+ years member.
Voted: Batman

It would be a close battle but Batman has the upper hand. If Batman is prepared and has the right gadgets then he would for sure win since Steve Rogers is more old fashioned and only uses his vibranium shield in which Bats can easily dodge. They are both equivalent in hand to hand combat and peak human stamina, agility, and durability (have both survived heavy blows). But although Steve has more strength and speed from the serum, Batman has better gadgets and is far smarter letting him win the fight...
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Batman - 10
Captain America - 7
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Batman Wins
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Cap has the advantage (really his only advantage here) in stamina, but they are both "peak human." The difference is that Batman trained to reach that level, and Steve had a scientific experiment performed on him. (Though they both have TEMPORARILY gained super-human powers on different occasions) For some reason people think that the serum made him super-human, but it only augmented him to the pinnacle of human perfection.
*FROM MARVEL'S WEBSITE: "Captain America represented the pinnacle of human physical perfection. He experienced a time when he was augmented to superhuman levels, but generally performed just below superhuman levels for most of his career. The Super-Soldier formula that he had metabolized had enhanced all of his bodily functions to the peak of human efficiency. Most notably, his body eliminates the excessive build-up of fatigue-producing poisons in his muscles, granting him phenomenal endurance...Captain America had mastered the martial arts of American-style boxing and judo, and had combined these disciplines with his own unique hand-to-hand style of combat. He had also shown skill and knowledge of a number of other martial arts."*
By the way military training + boxing, judo and "a number of other martial arts" is not the same as "having mastered every martial art known to man, 127 of which are deadly" which Bruce did
Voted: Batman

Exactly.
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Speed- Captain America
Strength- Captain America
Durability- Captain America
Intelligence- Batman
Fighting Skill/Combat- Equal
Experience- Captain America
Gear- Batman
Versatility- Batman (Because of his technology)
Powers/Abilities- Captain America
Voted: Batman

@LordTracer who did you take?
Voted: Batman

@Swarm unrelated to the debate who do you like more?
Voted: Captain America

I love them both, but I'm more of a Batman fan. When it comes to these debates, I prefer to take the realistic route of victors.
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Voted: Captain America

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Voted: Galactus
1. Batman and Captain America are even in fighting skill. It just is. Cap has mastered all the forms of martial arts on Earth.
2. Captain America is much stronger, faster, durable, and has far greater stamina. In fact, Captain America can lift multiple tons, run over 60 MPH, survive blasts from Ultron, falls from 200 ft+, and has much greater stamina than Bruce. He can fight for hours without tiring.
3. Experience- Cap has more experience than Batman. Plus he leads the Avengers. The Justice League is led by Batman and Superman but they can't really agree on views. Superman is in the light and the rest of the league follows him. Captain America leads the Avengers in and out.
4. The Vibranium Shield- Captain America has his shield and Batman can't get past it. Period. Batman might get a couple hits but he cannot destroy the shield. Cap with his superior speed will be able to dodge more attacks and get more devastating and more attacks in general.
Captain America Wins!
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Voted: Batman

Nowhere does it say Cap has mastered all martial arts people just assume that, it always says he has mastered "many" or "various", Batman has mastered ALL
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Voted: Batman

Also, Cap is not MUCH stronger and faster, doesn't matter how they got there they are both peak human meaning both of them are as strong as humanly possible, as fast as humanly possible, etc. While training to eventually become Batman, Bruce fought for 28 hours straight against a swarm of fighters in a gauntlet death match, you really think he's that far behind Cap in stamina? Batman is the leader of the justice league, not Superman...and are you going to tell me that Iron Man doesn't call the shots sometimes? To say he can't get past (not destroy) a shield is ridiculous, who cares what it's made of (oh no a large piece of metal, what ever will he do? c'mon man)...besides is Cap incapable of dropping it or losing it?
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Voted: Batman

Cap gained a lot of experience being frozen for 75 years
Voted: Batman

@Swarm you're a Traitor.
Voted: Captain America

😂 What?
Voted: Batman

You were voting for Batman and you decided to make your choice Captain America, Don't worry ill make you change it back 😀
Voted: Captain America

Yeah no.
Voted: Batman

Steve may be more durable than Bruce, but Batman has taken hits from Grundy, Green Lantern, Aquaman, Lex, etc, so their basically the same if they both have their suits. Batman has fought waaay more people than Cap and far more skilled opponents. Also, while Steve began his career in his mid twenties, Bruce has been out there since his early/mid teens. Cap's shield is super overrated. It's just a shield/frisbee. Batman has gadgets that can get around it, and if Cap were to throw it at Batman (which he most likely will), Batman would just catch it and toss it to the side, leaving Steve defenseless.
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Voted: Captain America


1. Batman and Captain America are even in fighting skill. It just is. Cap has mastered all the forms of martial arts on Earth.
2. Captain America is much stronger, faster, durable, and has far greater stamina. In fact, Captain America can lift multiple tons, run over 60 MPH, survive blasts from Ultron, falls from 200 ft+, and has much greater stamina than Bruce. He can fight for hours without tiring.
3. Experience- Cap has more experience than Batman. Plus he leads the Avengers. The Justice League is led by Batman and Superman but they can't really agree on views. Superman is in the light and the rest of the league follows him. Captain America leads the Avengers in and out.
4. The Vibranium Shield- Captain America has his shield and Batman can't get past it. Period. Batman might get a couple hits but he cannot destroy the shield. Cap with his superior speed will be able to dodge more attacks and get more devastating and more attacks in general.
Captain America Wins!
Voted: Batman

You didn't even read what I said.
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Oh yeah, the Shield bashing on someone with the strength of a super soldier literally confused Wolverine. It literally hurt a dude with an adamantium skeleton. Cap hitting Batman with full-force will crack his skull in two. Oh yeah, the shield has hurt Iron Man's armor also.
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Voted: Batman

Did you know that Batman isn't going stand there and get bashed in the face with Caps's Shield no he isn't.
Voted: Captain America

The shield isn't overrated in any shape or form. Saying he'll grab it and toss it aside is laughable. Batman is peak human, Cap is a near superhuman who doesn't get fatigued, is stronger and faster. Batman would make it a fun fight but in a random encounter zero prep time, Steve is winning this.
Voted: Captain America

Agreed @AhkilPDX. Those are great points.
Voted: Batman

Batman is a perfectionist meaning that he could do anything perfectly For Example: Catching Cap's Shield
Voted: Captain America

Just because he's a perfectionist, doesn't mean he'll catch Cap's shield and just toss it away. What about fatigue? Batman will get tired, while Steve is pounding his face into the ground.
Voted: Batman

Cap is very skilled but there are many things he does not know that Batman does. Bruce is a master of all the fighting styles you mentioned, plus dozens more. He also spent a lot of time learning out dated techniques. The training he got during is time in WWII is basically useless in modern times and especially against someone as skilled as Batman. His training doesn't not truly begin until his thirties when he is with SHIELD. And the training he got at SHIELD was also not very advanced compared to the League of Assassins training that Bruce got. Also, all the feats you mentioned could have also been accomplished by Batman, but Batman has defeated characters like Deathstroke, Lady Shiva, and Richard Dragon, all of whom are far superior fighters than Steve.
Voted: Batman

Bruce knows all the things that Steve learned in the armed forces, and he has learned countless other things from his time with the League of Assassins and his time studying internationally with masters of their arts. Batman is also a great strategist as he is able to plan out countless ways to defeat an opponent in just seconds and he is able to effortlessly use his surroundings to his advantage. When it comes to Cap's shield, Batman will see it as nothing more than a frisbee. The second Cap throws it at Bruce, he will just catch it and toss it to the side, leaving Steve defenseless.
Voted: Captain America

Batman got embarrassed against Deathstroke until his usual prep time.
Voted: Captain America

Cap is a fantastic combatant, let's go ahead and say by some magical way Cap's shield is tossed aside, Bruce and Steve will throw countless punches and Bruce will feel fatigue within his body and mind while Steve is still going in strong.
Voted: Batman

Ok has Cap ever Kicked a tree down with his own foot? Has Cap ever Karate choped a brick in half?
Voted: Captain America

Most likely since Cap is physically enhanced and possesses greater strength than Batman.
Voted: Batman

Intelligence- Batman
Strength- Captain America
Speed- Captain America
Durability- fairly equal
Combat- Batman
Experience- Batman
Equipment- Batman
Energy Projection- both have none
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The only thing that Cap wins in is strength and speed, but Batman has dealt with characters just like him before, and he'll do it again
Voted: Captain America

I can agree with most of that, except Combat in which I'd say they're equal since Cap can adapt to many fighting styles. The problem with Batman is although peak human and an incredible combatant and one of the most intelligent comic book characters of all time, he's just a human going up against an enhanced human with a vibranium shield who shows no fatigue and would pounce Batman in a random encounter when they first meet one another. If they had a rematch sure Batman would squeak by with prep time.
Voted: Batman

Cap is not a better fighter than Batman. Bruce is much more skilled and has much more experience than Steve. They are both about the same age mentally, even though Steve spent 100 years in ice. So is would come down to how they spent their (about 30) years training. Bruce began training in his early teens did international training in his mid/late teens and, then trained with the League of Shadows by his late teens/early twenties. Steve began military training in his early twenties (which is not even good military training since it was from a hundred years ago), and started S.H.I.E.L.D. training in his mid/late twenties. The training that Bruce went through in his teens is without a doubt better than military training and arguably as good, if not better than SHIELD training. By the time that Bruce finishes his international martial arts training, he is already just barely under Steve's current skill level, but when he enters the League of Shadows, he easily surpasses Cap. With this information, it is clear that Batman is not only a better fighter than Captain America, but he is also more experienced because he started training at a much earlier age. Bruce's skill and experience mixed with his gadgets and intelligence is surely more than enough to defeat someone like Captain America.
Voted: Captain America

To further my point Cap has dodged large arsenals of weaponry and gunfire in so many occasions I don't believe Batman's fists will worry him.
Voted: Captain America

Let me ask you, what gadget will be enough to stop Cap? And if there is a gadget that can, Steve will dodge it with ease.
Voted: Batman

If both characters were completely naked (and without their gear) and fighting a cage match, I see Captain America having a very good chance at winning, but if they are fully geared and in, say the Roman Colosseum, Batman takes it more often than not. You are thinking of batman's gadgets as mere toys, but the fact is that those "toys" have been able to hurt characters comparable to gods. Sure Cap can see them coming, but no matter what defensive move he makes (dodging, blocking, or shielding), those gadgets will still hit him. He may be able to block or dodge a baterang or two, but things like explosive pellets/gel, freeze grenades, and his quick hardening foam grenades are specifically designed to hit be effective no matter what the opponent does. His shield may be able to take physical blows, but it can still be surpassed with these gadgets.
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Voted: Captain America

Cap doesn't need to chop a tree in half. He threw his shield hard enough to hurt Hulk.
Voted: Batman

@AkhilPDx Please stay out of the debate if you didn't read what I said.
Voted: Captain America

So you say Cap will be hit by his gadgets, when like I previously have said has dodged rains of gunfire when he didn't expect it, but you somehow see Batman tossing his shield aside? That shield has taken impacts way more powerful than Batman could ever imagine to throw at him.
Voted: Batman

Cap isn't going dodge a freeze Bomb because Didn't I say "designed to hit be effective no matter what the opponent does"
Voted: Captain America

Cap's shield would easily defend that freeze bomb. His shield was hit by a pissed off Thor with the Odinforce and Mjolnir made a cute little dent, it took Thor multiple shots before he could break it.
Voted: Batman

You say in "reality" Cap has already thrown his shield at Batman and Batman has already tossed it aside.
Voted: Captain America

I was using that as an example for them to face off in a hand-to-hand match.
Voted: Captain America

Because in reality Batman isn't tossing it aside.
Voted: Batman

Still Cap is already going throw the shield at Batman because that is usually what Cap does, And Like I said Batman is going catch it throw it aside and use a Gadget that Cap isn't going dodge.
Voted: Captain America

Quite the opposite actually, Cap's shield will hit Bruce and Cap will indeed dodge or protect himself from Batman's gadgetry.
Voted: Batman

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-42531260429eee11d399a5ea4761427b.webp
How did Cap lose his shield?
Voted: Captain America

Link didn't work, what does the image show?
Voted: Batman

Both fighting hand to hand without cap's shield but Batman still has his gadgets. In the Snow
Voted: Batman

No the Rain I mean't
Voted: Captain America

Oh that's the crossover and it isn't canon, so it's irrelevant.
Voted: Batman

Ok am I winning the debate kind of?
Voted: Captain America

I'd say no, some questionable calls on your part, but I'm having fun nonetheless.
Voted: Batman

Batman has had more rigorous training in the martial arts, and that he has mastered practically all fighting styles known to man, means he wins this fight in terms of combat. Captain America is at a disadvantage because he only knows a number of fighting styles, and sooner or later Batman Will use a form that is unfamiliar to Steve and overwhelm him.
Voted: Captain America

Again that's the problem, he could use any form he wants he's still not going to take Cap down, because Cap can fight all day long. Like I've also said before fatigue will wear Batmam down and allow Cap to effectively beat him to the ground.
Voted: Batman

Cap can get fatigued by bullets and also he can get fatiqued by Pressure Points.
Voted: Captain America

Well yeah Cap's true weakness is he can be mortally wounded but like I continuously say he can dodge crazy amounts of gunfire. Pressure points won't really mess with him, since his muscles and nerves are enhanced.
Voted: Batman

Don't really think Cap can handle a Pressure Point between a person who has karate choped a Brick
Voted: Captain America

Pretty fun debate so far. I've got to get off now I'd love to continue tomorrow.
Voted: Batman

Ok
Voted: Captain America

Oh he can.
Voted: Captain America

I'm guessing this is settled as well?
Voted: Batman

What do the numbers mean?
Voted: Batman

Just shows how powerful they are. If not someone else could explain it.
Voted: Captain America

These votes are surprising! Not even intelligence can save Batman from this battle.
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

I wish I could be more active on this site. I remember when this was the most viewed battle on here.
Voted: Batman

When was that?
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Around a year ago whenever I first joined. I returned to this site a month ago after an unfortunate hiatus.
Voted: Batman

Hiatus? If I may ask?
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Mainly getting my life straightened out, you know working nonstop and settling into a home, you know adult shit. The unfortunate part and I typically don't like getting personal but being diagnosed with cancer (don't worry I've been in remission for over half a year).
Voted: Batman

I'm sorry to hear you had to go through that. I'm glad your better now at least.
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Yeah thanks, how about we discuss this battle I see you have Batman as your winner.
Voted: Batman

I flip flop a lot on this one. I think Batman slips by him
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

I'll continue this tomorrow I need some rest.
Voted: Batman

Ok
Voted: Batman

Batman is one of the best hand to hand combat fighter in the whole Dc universe and could easly disarm cap and use the sheild agaisnt him + Bats is the king of stealth so the helps
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Cap wins in a tough one, he's just stronger and the shield is an x factor
2+ years member.
Voted: Batman

When you look closely at both of these characters they are not that much different in physical performance.
Voted: Captain America

How is Captain Americas strenth rated so low, he is far stronger than peak human. He would annihilate Batman, cmon.
Voted: Captain America

If this was a fight Batman had a chance to plan for, i'd give it to Bats. If it was a random encounter, Cap. If it was a cage match with no utility belt or shield, Cap. Bats doesn't have the strength, speed, and stamina to keep up with Cap.
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

I love both characters, I like Batman more but got to give it to Cap here, it'd be a good fight nonetheless but Cap's stamina and precision gives him the the victory.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Crap vs Crap. I dont vote.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Says the guy that voted
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Voted: Batman

Lol
Voted: Captain America

Batman has beaten Deathstroke and Bane, who are both probably more powerful than Captain America, however, and correct me if I'm wrong, but Batman had fought each of those in a one-on-one encounter and lost, them came back with prep time, so it's likely that Captain America will do the same to Batman as they did.
Voted: Captain America

Batman beats Captain America for the same reason Iron Man beats Batman, superior technology.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

No gadget compares to Captain America´s shield
Voted: Captain America

Tell me something, how is Captain America going to defeat Batman if he can't see him. (Batman's smoke bombs, btw) Also, the shield won't protect Cap from grenades coming from every direction, as it does not offer full body protection.
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Captain America kicks Iron Man's ass.
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Voted: Captain America

Captain America can take more damage from Fatman.
Voted: Captain America

@plaidcoolflyer No he doesn't.
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Captain America can take more damage THAN Fatman.
Voted: Captain America

Without suits yes, but with suits their durability is fairly equal.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

@IMABATMAN42: Captain America has superhuman senses. Because of Captain America´s extraordinarily acute hearing, he could locate Batman by hearing his every move. He could also smell Batman and locate him that way. But Captain America really does not need to do any of that. He could just run out of the smoke at 60 mph, jump 20 ft up into the air to get out of it, or leap 50 yards out in a single bound to get out of the smoke. Not that Batman usually carries grenades, but unless Batman could throw them much faster than a bullet, Captain America would have zero trouble dodging and blocking the grenades. You are seriously underestimating Captain America
Voted: Batman

Batman has beaten tougher super soldiers. Bane and Deathstroke to name a few, and the addition of Cap's shield is the only thing that makes the fight difficult. He can't be disarmed as the shield will come back to Cap. But Batman's gadgets equal it and can potentially even neutralize it just based on their sheer numbers, the combinations are endless. Disorient Cap with smoke and cuff Cap with the indestructible BatCuffs, use the grapple gun to tie Cap up, etc. Not to mention Batman is FAR superior in stealth and could lurk in the shadows taking cheap shots until the battle is won.
Voted: Batman

@SirSpidey I was wondering if you could refute my claim
Voted: Batman

I'm in the mood for a friendly debate
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

I have already refuted them. Just read my comments below
Voted: Batman

From what I can tell you just babble off on a tangent. Don't tell me your scared Spidey, give me your all I like it when I'm in over my head.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Scared of a nobody like you!? Please, don't kid yourself. I just don't want to retype everything I have already said. So if you could please just scroll down and actually read, that would save both of us some very valuable time. But, if you further insist, I just might have to take up your offer solely for the fun of it. Also, don't pull that "Batman has beaten tougher foes like Bane and Deathstroke" card. If we are playing that way, Captain America has beaten the Hulk by only utilizing PRESSURE POINTS. So unless Batman has beaten someone like the Hulk, Captain America easily takes this. Do you see how unfair this debate would be if we used your logic?
Voted: Batman

So you're scared and lazy huh? No matter and I have read your points below and honestly they suck. As for the Hulk issue, Batman did beat the Hulk, though it was non-canon it is clear that the Hulk can be beaten by someone like Batman. In Spider-Man #19 Doc Oc beat Hulk. If DOC OC of all people can beat Hulk I'm sure Batman can. Also, Batman is probably just as well versed in pressure points as Cap.
Voted: Batman

Batman has beaten the hulk before with the greatest of ease. just though I should through that out there. plus captain America was in kind of a pickle while batman was done in like 10 seconds
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Lol, okay kid. Whatever you say. If my points suck so bad, please, be my guest and try and debunk them. I want to know what sucks about them. Batman, the person who gets beat by Bane and Deathstroke, cannot logically and canonically defeat the Hulk. What do you mean by saying "Doc Oc of all people"? Doc Oc would wipe the floor with Batman. He is actually pretty powerful. You can't just assume Batman has just as much knowledge on pressure points as Captain America. Prove it using facts
Voted: Batman

Legends of the Dark Knight #102, Detective Comics v2 #17, and JLA Incarnations #2. Batman uses pressure point to defeat a larger opponent. As for the Doc Ock fight, Spiderman wipes the floor with him on a daily basis. While Batman doesn't beat Spiderman, It's certainly a good fight and Batman is on-par with Spidey making a fight with Doc Ock not too hard. I'll answer your question about your points at a later date as I need to reread them all.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Lol, you are going to use those as evidence!? Seriously!? Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #102 is not canon. JLA: Incarnations #2 is not canon. The only comic that you referenced that is canon is Detective Comics Volume 2 #17 and in that comic Batman only uses pressure points on a weightlifter. A weightlifter is not comparable to the Hulk. I would like to see Batman use those pressure points on the Hulk and then see what happens. Wait, did I hear you correctly? You think Batman is equal to Spider-Man? You are Joking, correct? Spider-Man could snap Batman´s neck with one arm considering how strong he is. Not to mention Batman could not even touch Spider-Man. Hell, Spider-Man could defeat Batman with his webs alone. So please, don´t do that again. You are just embarrassing yourself
Voted: Batman

Thanks for catching me on that man, didn't do the proper research I suppose. You're right in my stupidity, I was momentarily blinded by your stubbornness. I will give it to Cap, He is stronger and faster. But Batman still beats him everywhere else.
Batman has been trained by the League of Assassins, Wildcat, and Zatara. Caps training is certainly good but it doesn't compare. If you were to give Batman prep time 9/10 times he wins. And even without any prep time, he wins a little over half of those battle. Cap's shield will only help him so much when Batman is full stealth. That is only my opinion but isn't all of this site just opinions?
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

If you were to give Captain America prep time, he would win 9/10 times. That is a faulty argument. Just because someone knows more fighting styles, does not mean they win. This is evident whenever Captain America defeated Black Panther, someone who knows all the known and unknown combat styles. So again, that is a faulty argument. Full stealth or not, Captain America will be able to sense Batman. Yet again, that is a faulty argument. This site is all just opinions until someone like me whips out them cold hard facts
Voted: Batman

If this site is all opinions, why did some of the site's resident know it all vote Batman? I don't know if you noticed but you are in the minority here, Batman is winning by a large percent.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Just because something is popular, does not make it true
Voted: Batman

Even though I had originally voted Batman, I have thought about it and realized, this battle could go either way. Both are Experts in weaponry and are at peak human condition. I know Batman is intelligent but imo that doesn't give him much of an advantage against cap. I say a tie (feel free to prove me wrong and convince me to vote for one of them)
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Captain America is a super soldier with lots of combat training and Batman is a half emo rich boy with lots of issues and is too much of a wussy to kill. Sorry if I offend any of you.
Voted: Batman

How does Cap and Bat have the same level of strenght?
Voted: Captain America

Captain America is prepared what Batman can do.And he servived all this stuff his shield can block every move.
Voted: Batman

Well 1. That's a lie his shield can't block every move, and 2. If Bats gets rid of that shield Batman would win in combat and i'm not saying Batman could kill Cap i'm saying he would win in a fight
Voted: Captain America

batman with prep time ofc but in a random encounter i'd give to captain america, in a hand to hand no gadgets or shield captain america
Voted: Captain America

But this is standard gear with gadgets, so Batman wins.
Voted: Captain America

Captain America stopped a helicopter with his bare hands, and he was challenging Thanos in the new infinity war trailer.
Voted: Batman

Batman's mastered every single Martial Art in the whole world, Captain America wins only in strength and speed because of his super soldier serum, Batman is just at peak condition, Where captain America just took a quick shortcut close to that kind of. Everything else Batman wins in Intelligence, Power since he's rich and he wins in combat so stop voting for captain America.
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

The closest person Batman has fought like Captain America is Deathstroke or Bane, who both beat him.
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Cap is over rated, he might beat bats in a fist fight. But if they have their gear, Batman has a plethora of gadgets that can stop meta-humans like croc, clayface, bane and grundy. Caps shield only protects about half of his body, batman could throw one batarang at caps torso, and one at his foot....or about a dozen other ways he could exploit caps biggest weakness.
Voted: Batman

thankfully batman hasnt been stuck in a big block of ice for 70 years
Voted: Captain America

Why do you all think Batman wins?
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Intelligence- Batman
Strength- Captain America
Speed- Captain America
Durability- fairly equal
Combat- Batman
Experience- Batman
Equipment- Batman
Energy Projection- both have none
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The only thing that Cap wins in is strength and speed, but Batman has dealt with characters just like him before, and he'll do it again
Voted: Captain America

Durability equal? Captain America has blasted by repulsors over and over again and he just keeps fighting. Experience, Cap has fought Thanos, Hulk, Iron Man, Red Skull, and wolverine.
Voted: Captain America

Caps Shield Trumps all of Batman's gadgets
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Steve may be more durable than Bruce, but Batman has taken hits from Grundy, Green Lantern, Aquaman, Lex, etc, so their basically the same if they both have their suits. Batman has fought waaay more people than Cap and far more skilled opponents. Also, while Steve began his career in his mid twenties, Bruce has been out there since his early/mid teens. Cap's shield is super overrated. It's just a shield/frisbee. Batman has gadgets that can get around it, and if Cap were to throw it at Batman (which he most likely will), Batman would just catch it and toss it to the side, leaving Steve defenseless.
Voted: Captain America

Do you really think Batman has equal strength with Captain America. Does batman stop a helicopter with his bare hands ?
Voted: Batman

Well he punches a guy through the floor and can clearly destroy superman!! And he can take a few punches from him too!!
Voted: Captain America

With Kryptonite
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIyB6B0uYHg
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Hey, MoonKnight, you can't use Death Battle as evidence for two reasons. One, ScrewAttack are idiots. The results of Death Battle is rarely accurate. Second of all, you can only use comics to justify your answer.
1+ years member.
Not voted yet

Doesn't Screwattak/Death Battle use comics as research to justify their answers.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

@LordTracer is correct
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

@ag940000: They don't give reference to any comics in their videos. They just say a bunch of random crap and expect for the audience to think it is true. They also reference cartoons and movies for evidence which are not canon. So, Death Battle is not a reliable source to base your argument off of
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

@SirSpidey For your first and second comments, Cap does have a lot of experience, but there is a difference between experience and perception. Cap may have perceived more but Batman has experienced more. And I don't think batman is ever shown having to relearn anything. His experience helps him to learn and remember things because he can relate and connect new experiences with what he already knows. And I don't want to get back into the debate about intelligence, but Cap may be able to read faster, but be is rarely ever sits down to study anything unless it is a crime report or information on a mission. Batman spends much more time to study do more in depth research.
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman


For your third comment, Cap is very skilled but there are many things he does not know that Batman does. Bruce is a master of all the fighting styles you mentioned, plus dozens more. He also spent a lot of time learning out dated techniques. The training he got during is time in WWII is basically useless in modern times and especially against someone as skilled as Batman. His training doesn't not truly begin until his thirties when he is with SHIELD. And the training he got at SHIELD was also not very advanced compared to the League of Assassins training that Bruce got. Also, all the feats you mentioned could have also been accomplished by Batman, but Batman has defeated characters like Deathstroke, Lady Shiva, and Richard Dragon, all of whom are far superior fighters than Steve.
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

For your fourth comment, again, Bruce knows all the things that Steve learned in the armed forces, and he has learned countless other things from his time with the League of Assassins and his time studying internationally with masters of their arts. Batman is also a great strategist as he is able to plan out countless ways to defeat an opponent in just seconds and he is able to effortlessly use his surroundings to his advantage. When it comes to Cap's shield, Batman will see it as nothing more than a frisbee. The second Cap throws it at Bruce, he will just catch it and toss it to the side, leaving Steve defenseless.
2+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Well said @wolfdragon123
2+ years member.
Voted: Batman

The fact that Batman has had more rigorous training in the martial arts, and that he has mastered practically all fighting styles known to man, means he wins this fight in terms of combat. Captain America is at a disadvantage because he only knows a number of fighting styles, and sooner or later Batman Will use a form that is unfamiliar to Steve and overwhelm him. This also explains how Batman is able to best Deathstroke in combat.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

No, that is not well said. @wolfdragon123: For you're first comment, of course there is a difference between experience and perception. They are completely different things. Batman can have all the experience he wants, but it doesn't change the fact that Captain America learns way faster than Batman. Let me put it to you like this, if Captain America learns twice as fast as Batman, that would mean that Captain America would have 2 days worth of knowledge for every 1 days worth of Batman's knowledge. That means that Captain America would have 2 years worth of training for every 1 years worth of Batman's training and so on. Captain America has 42 years worth of knowledge compared to Batman's 30 years of knowledge due to Captain America's enhanced mind. Batman has trained for 18 years, respectively. Captain America has trained for 22 years due to Captain America being able to learn twice as fast as Batman. So, mentally, Captain America has had 4 more years of training compared to Batman and 12 more years of knowledge. And that is all training and knowledge that Captain America never forgets, unlike Batman. Just because Batman is never shown having to relearn something doesn't mean that Batman never forgets things. Batman does not have a perfect, eidetic memory. That means that we have to believe Batman forgets things. Relating and connecting new experiences with what we already know helps everyone learn and remember things. Batman isn't the only one who does that. Captain America just does that to a greater degree than Batman due to his enhanced mind. Captain America is shown to tirelessly study his enemies. He also gets double the amount of information on his enemies than Batman. Also, you don't know if Batman does more in depth research than Captain America
1+ years member.
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I don't know how to reach a verdict here. When they fought in the Marvel/DC crossover, they fought for a really long time, and the only reason Batman won is because they were in a sewer and Cap was caught off guard that had nothing to do with Batman. On one hand, Batman ha Style better gadgets and possibly better combat training, while Cap has enhanced strength & stamina and can tame much more of a beating than Ol' Bats.
1+ years member.
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*has better gadgets
* can take much more
Voted: Batman

With so much tech it would be hard for Cap to win in the old fashioned way (fist fight). Batman's Batmobile and batwing would help him a lot. Along with crazy strong suits that he can use, like Hellbat or something
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Batman doesn't need any of his vehicles or special suits to beat Cap
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Captain America's shield trumps all of Batman's gadgets
Voted: Captain America

Exactly.
Voted: Captain America

Well this is just a popularity contest, isn't it.
Both characters have been described as one of the greatest combatants in their respective universes, by both their friends and their enemies, numerous times throughout their long existence. So that's a wash.
No sneakiness or pre-planning in a straight up, "oh how's it going?" PUNCH fight, so that takes away Batman's made gig.
Captain America is much stronger and faster and never gets tired.
Essentially Batman is "Batroc" in this situation. And we all know what happens to Batroc.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Well said
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

So, I think Captain America would win for multiple reasons.
1. While Batman is smarter in tech and science, Cap has more general and battlefield knowledge. Also, once Cap learns something or even sees something, he remembers it. While Batman knows almost all established martial arts, Cap can copy skills that only certain people have (Like for example, Cap could probably copy Deadpool's unpredictability, but not fully).
2. Cap is stronger and faster because of the super soldier serum. Batman can't rival Cap's strength or speed, which gives him a big advantage.
3. Cap's shield. So before you go saying that Batman has countless gadgets for any scenario, let me explain why Cap's shield is better than Batman's gadgets. First of all, vibranium is very strong. Of course, there's inertron and promethium, but not only does Batman probably not have that (He might, I don't know much about those materials), but vibranium is something Batman has never seen. Batman's gadgets are very useful and unique, but Cap's experience will probably counter them. He would know how the gadgets work, and if he's never seen something like it, then he'll quickly catch on.
So that's why Cap would win. I didn't go into as much depth in combat as I wanted too, but if anyone wants me too, then I will.
Voted: Captain America

Good point
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Well said! I was leaning toward Cap on this one and you summed it up very nicely.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Although your points are good, i think that Batman could still win.
1.It is true that Batman is weaker compared to Captain America because of the Super Solider Serum, that does not match Batman's Wits and how he is in Combat. Stealth is also one of Batman's best tactics. he could easily sneak up on Cap and have an advantage. Plus, Combined with Batman's power and Combat, he could easily take him down.
2. If we count prep time, Batman could easily find weaknesses of Captain America. If he had enough time, he could probably get his hands on Vibranium with either is mass fortune or taking it himself as Batman.
3. Batman has beaten countless Stronger enemies including Superman and Darkseid. So who's to say that he couldn't beat Cap? Although they have had fights in the comics, both of those fights ended in a tie. If batman had the advantage of Stealth, and Preparation, I think Batman could beat Cap.
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Well, I'm going to debunk what you said...
Cap's battlefield knowledge is greater than Batman's (which I said already), and his combat is also better. Batman's stealth won't do much because these battles (at least I'm pretty sure) are just when two characters run into each other randomly. So Batman won't be sneaking around. Even if he was, Cap would figure out pretty quickly that Batman was planning a sneak attack. So there, debunked. (And also, the vibranium thing goes along with the no prep time. And also, you has some good points, and even though I think Cap would win, Batman would put up an amazing fight.
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Cap's "battlefield knowledge" won't be of much use here since it is pretty much just war experience, and this is not a war, it is a one-on-one fight. And Cap is not a better fighter than Batman. Bruce is much more skilled and has much more experience than Steve. They are both about the same age mentally, even though Steve spent 100 years in ice. So is would come down to how they spent their (about 30) years training. Bruce began training in his early teens did international training in his mid/late teens and, then trained with the League of Shadows by his late teens/early twenties. Steve began military training in his early twenties (which is not even good military training since it was from a hundred years ago), and started S.H.I.E.L.D. training in his mid/late twenties. The training that Bruce went through in his teens is without a doubt better than military training and arguably as good, if not better than SHIELD training. By the time that Bruce finishes his international martial arts training, he is already just barely under Steve's current skill level, but when he enters the League of Shadows, he easily surpasses Cap. With this information, it is clear that Batman is not only a better fighter than Captain America, but he is also more experienced because he started training at a much earlier age. Bruce's skill and experience mixed with his gadgets and intelligence is surely more than enough to defeat someone like Captain America.
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Just because Batman started training as a teenager doesn't mean he's a better fighter than Cap. Cap has had more experience and he would instantly recognize any martial arts Batman uses, and then he would counter it. Batman's only hope WOULD be his gadgets, if they weren't made useless by Cap's shield.
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Batman hasn't just trained longer, he has gotten better training and is easily a better fighter than Captain America. And why do you say that Cap is more experienced?
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

@wolfdragon123: What are you talking about? You clearly don't know who Captain America is. Have you read one Captain America comic? Not only does Captain America have vast amounts of knowledge on war strategies and techniques that he can easily use while in a 1v1 battle, he can also apply any knowledge of any battle he has ever learned or experienced to the task at hand which means Captain America has already experienced everything Batman is going to throw at him. As for the experience of both characters, I think you are forgetting something about Captain America. His mental performance operates in the most efficient and rapid manner possible which enables Captain America to processes the world in the most advance and efficient manner. He possesses perfect pattern solving/recognition, limitless information storage/retrieval, perfect perception/observational skills, and logical/philosophical structuring of the mind. His mind also processes information extremely quickly, giving him an accelerated learning aptitude. Rogers can also quickly analyze limitless information streams and rapidly respond to changing tactical situations.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

He possesses an eidetic memory (he never forgets anything and has perfect and instant recall), he can read at superhuman speeds, has perfect deductive/reasoning skills, and can intuitively understand what's going to happen and how to deal with it. This enables him to remember any military tactic and apply it to any situation, making him the best tactician in history. So, Batman may have gotten more training, but you have to keep in mind that Captain America has an eidetic memory meaning once Captain America learns a technique, he doesn't have to relearn it as Batman would have to do once he forgets a technique. This means that Batman would need to take much longer to master a technique than Captain America would. Whenever Batman is relearning a technique, Captain America is learning a new one. Captain America also learns things much, much faster than Batman since his mind is enhanced. He can even read a book at super human speeds.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

As for their combat skill, Captain America is not far behind Batman in mastering all forms of martial arts. Captain America has mastered the majority of all martial art techniques and is adept in all the ones he hasn't yet mastered. Captain America mostly utilizes Boxing, Judo, Defendu, Kickboxing, Jujutsu, Okinawa-te and various other martial arts with his gymnastic ability creating a style that suits his strengths and enables him to use his knowledge to the best of his ability. He is considered to be one of the finest martial artists on Earth, which allows him to regularly defeat foes who are masters of all forms of combat, such as Taskmaster, Wolverine, Iron Fist, Black Panther, etc. At one time, Captain America was able to hold his own against a large group of Super Soldiers with ease. Captain America can also just master whatever move or technique is foreign to him in the midst of the fight.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

His years of training and experience with his unique shield, as well as its physical properties, allow him to accomplish amazing feats with the shield. Aside from bashing foes and blocking incoming attacks, he is able to throw it with perfect aim. Rogers can hit multiple targets with the same throw by means of ricochet, and can even achieve a boomerang-like return effect, allowing him to strike enemies from behind or retrieve the shield without objects to ricochet from. He is a master in all Armed force disciplines including intelligence gathering, escape arts, assassination, demolition, survival tactics, hunting, swimming, mountaineering, march/drill skills, map making and reading, decoding cipher and other secret code messages, reading and making wood craft signs and other secret code languages, disguising, interrogation, computers, explosives, communication systems, vehicles, and electronic appliances used in armed forces. His years of training and experience have made him an expert acrobat, gymnast, and aerialist. He often utilizes these talents in combat for both evasive and offensive purposes. Captain America is also an accomplished strategist. He has been widely considered one of, if not the greatest, tacticians on the planet, both on and off the battlefield. He is able to formulate battle strategies and his brilliant tactical sense allows him to alter any strategy to fit the changing need of the situation. Rogers utilizes Boxing, Judo, Defendu, Kickboxing, Jujutsu, Okinawa-te and various other disciplines with his gymnastics ability creating a style that suits his strengths and enables him to use his knowledge to the best of his ability. So no, Batman is not a better fighter than Captain America. Batman may have started training before Captain America, but he definitely is not as experienced as Captain America
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

@wolfdragon123: Would you like to debate this?
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

I thought we were done debating this, but sure I guess we can keep going
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Batman's intellect is his most powerful weapon cause no one had went into apocalypse and scare the hell out of him not even superman did that so batman takes the victory pretty easy
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Batman's intellect is his most powerful weapon cause no one had went into apocalypse and scare the hell out of him not even superman did that so batman takes the victory pretty easy
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Batman's intellect is his most powerful weapon cause no one had went into apocalypse and scare the hell out of him not even superman did that so batman takes the victory pretty easy
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Jim stands for darksied
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I think in most cases Captain America would win as he will kill if needed. However if Batman had time to prepare he would win. Both are at nearly the peak condition for a human Cap by chemicals and Bruce by training. The number of fighting styles for both are impressive, but Cap had a lot longer to learn more.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Except for Cap in the comics is stronger than Batman, the serum pushes the limits of human perfection.
Voted: Captain America

The only thing cap has on batman is strength, but not by that much their heaviest lifting feats are only about 30lbs apart, although cap can lift more consistently
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

I do got an old comic in wich caps states he knows all martial arts in the world... but i think both in the case of Cap and Bruce such statements as this are over exageration, and what we really need to understand is that both of them are good fighters. Anyway i think Bruce wins dues to gadgets.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Batman has the advantage cause he has trained in all sorts of fighting styles unlike Cap he isn't as well versatile in fighting
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

As much as I love Cap this would have to go to Batman and it would be by the skin of his teeth. It would be a different outcome if it was Ultimate Captain America mostly because of how much stronger he is. Ultimate Cap is in the 2 ton range which is far beyond 616 Cap
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Cap would definitely win. I mean, Bat is just a guy with tech. Cap is literally enhanced to defeat guys like him reagardless of smarts.
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Cap would definitely win. I mean, Bat is just a guy with tech. Cap is literally enhanced to defeat guys like him reagardless of smarts.
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Captain America would win for many reasons. First of all, anybody who is bringing up the point of Batman being smarter is being stupid(no offense). There is almost no way that Batman would be able to trick or outsmart Cap. Cap has been around much longer than Batman, and experience is one of the most valuable things to have. Cap is also faster, stronger, and more durable than Batman. That alone should let him beat Batman, but then there's the shield. Cap's shield can withstand anything that Batman throws at him. And as SirSpidey said, his intelligence in terms of general combat is very high. He is most likely one of the best tacticians in both Marvel and DC universes. Cap knows virtually every trick in the book. So for those reasons, Cap would win.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Batman only win with the weapons, he have to many things, but hand to hand, Cap kill him with 2 or 3 punches.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

I have to agree with wolfdragon123
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

I got to say you have the best screen name.
1+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

I got to say you have the best screen name.
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Anyways, why do you choose to go by just what one person's description is? I don't mean any disrespect towards @Galactus, but just what one person says does not make something fact. Doesn't common sense tell you that someone like Steve Rodgers is not as smart as the people previously mentioned? What you're implying is that Steve just knows things that he hasn't even studied. Everyone else that I have mentioned has spent years doing research to become as intelligent as they are, and you think that Cap just magically knows everything that they know and more? That makes absolutely no sense at all.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

For your first point: I use what Galactus says because Galactus uses credible and canon sources to get his information as you can see by reading through the Profile, History, Powers and Abilities, and Weapons and Equipment sections of every single character in the database. For your second point: Iron Man, Reed Richards, Hank McCoy, and Hank Pym know more about science than Captain America but none of them could ever dream of rivaling Captain America on the battlefield in terms of general knowledge, I thought I made this clear but maybe I made a mistake. Captain America has a didactic memory, something that none of the previous characters that I mentioned above have. This means that once he learns something, experiences something, looks at something, feels something, hears something, tastes something, or even smells something.........he never forgets it. Unlike the characters above who can easily forget things out of the blue, those things haunt Captain America forever. He can literally master any weapon within seconds and learn any fighting technique while in battle. Basically what Im trying to say is that Captain Americas intelligence in regards to combat/tactical genius, memory, and strategy is easily comparable to Reed Richards, Tony Starks, Hank McCoys, and Hank Pyms intelligence in regards to science and technology. This is why he needs a 100 in intelligence. Hopefully this clears up my opinion on the matter and hopefully you can at least agree with what I said even for just a little bit
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

I now see what are saying and I agree that his memory is a very powerful tool, but I still don't think that he should get a 100 for intelligence. I think that characters with 100 intelligence should have a broader range of expertise. Captain America has a larger potential for a higher intelligence than many other characters, but since he mostly focuses his time on training and studying battle strategies, his knowledge is more limited than someone like Batman's. If he were to expand his studies and spend more time in the lab and library rather than in the gym and control rooms, then he could better utilize his potential. So, Cap is very smart in some areas and has great potential, but he is going to have to spend some more time studying since his priorities are normal on the physical and strategic side of things and not the intellectual side.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

You mention that characters with 100 in intelligence should have a broader range of expertise but yet characters with 100 in intelligence like Iron Man, Hank Pym, Reed Richards, and Beast have little to none expertise in the fields of Captain America. But thats your opinion, I cant change it. You can believe what you want and Ill believe what I want
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

They did not create the entire page, they helped contribute to the information on there. And Marvel isn't stupid (you of all people should agree with this), they wouldn't let stuff be put on their website without making sure that it is that true.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Yes they did create the entire page, all of there contributions formed the entire page. Its a wikipedia. Here, let me give you the definition of what a wikipedia is because you clearly dont understand what it is, "A wikipedia is a free, open content online encyclopedia created through the collaborative effort of a community of users known as wikipedians. Anyone registered on the site can create an article for publication; registration is not required to edit articles". That is what the Marvel Wikipedia is
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

That's not always the case, especially not when the page is on a company like Marvel's website. Go on the page and try to edit something, anything. I can almost guarantee that you will not be able to make just any changes.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

It might be because they decided that the page is good enough and doesnt need anymore information in it so they just closed it. It could also be a technological error of some sort that they have yet to fix. But how would I know, I dont work for Marvel. Im just going off of what the website says which is, "Marvel Universe Wiki"
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Yes I know, that is the website Im refering to. If you scroll down to the very bottom youll see a whole bunch of names of people who contributed to the page. Those are all just random people. It also says Marvel Universe WIKI
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

I just made an account and tried to edit the page and I couldn't. Either way, every page on Marvel's website is maintained and approved by Marvel, so they would allow any false information to be placed on their website. Everything on there is what Marvel says is correct.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

How do you know? Do you work for Marvel or something? Listen, the page was made by some random people. That means that it is there own interpretation of Captain America, there own opinion of who Captain America is. And I just so happen to disagree with them
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

They most likely did not factor in all of who Captain America is into there stats due to them being not so knowledgeable on the subject
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

@SirSpidey Where did you read that Captain America is "as smart as a human can be"?
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

If you would actually read the Powers and Abilities page on Captain America, you would know where Im refering from
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Is that seriously where you've been getting your whole argument from? You're taking @Galactus's description way too literally. If you want the actual stats for Captain America, then go to the actual Marvel website. There you will see that Cap has a 4/7 for intelligence, which puts him in the "gifted" category. Characters like Iron Man, Mister Fantastic, Hulk, and Beast all have 6/7, which puts them in the "super-genius" category. Batman is of course on the level of these guys and is obviously smarter than Captain America. With the way that you were arguing, you might as well have been arguing for a completely different character than Steve Rodgers. There's a reason why Batman is maxed out on intelligence while Cap only has a 70 (which by the way is a pretty generous amount): Because it makes sense
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Anyone can edit those Marvel wikis so its not a very reliable source to go off of
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Voted: Batman

I'm talking about the official Marvel website, which is run by the actual people that work at Marvel, so there is no source that is more reliable than this one. This is what I'm talking about:
http://marvel.com/universe/Captain_America_(Steve_Rogers)#axzz4w6Tn5rQk
2+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Not that Captain America isn't amazing and all that but Batman is far smarter in terms of combat (and actually smarter in all other ways but that is besides the point).
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

As President Donald Trump would say it, "Wrong." That statement is just wrong. Read my comments below and youll understand why
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

What people said.
6+ years member.
Voted: Batman

If weapons are allowed Batman wins if they are not Cap might win.
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Agreed
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

batman can make a suit to be invisible and than punch captain america and captain america lose
2+ years member.
Voted: Batman

I do not think he needs a suit, Batman is really smart combat wise, like he is a really really good fighter.
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Voted: Batman

voted:Batman
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Voted: Batman

The shield is able to break. Vibranium isn't indestructible. But few things can break it.
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Voted: Captain America

Captain America is like Spiderman Jr athletically--with soldier leadership/experience under his belt. He was also the chosen leader of the Avengers for maybe 4 decades! Anything Batman could toss or fire, Capt would be ready for. Plus, Steve has an unbreakable shield that he carries everywhere he goes! I think a lot of you are selling Capt. America short in this one, because Batman's more popular in recent years. You can't compare a human martial artist to Spiderman Jr with super strength(even if little) or a tosser and firer versus a military tactician with an unbreakable shield! Capt. America has even beaten Iron Man before! Steve takes this without Batman's special suits!
2+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Yes that us true but Batman (i my opinion) is just the superior fighter! He calculates and executes his moves in a superior way to Cap and he is far more intelligent. Yes maybe Cap has the physical ability to really put up a fight but few and far between can match batman in terms of his strategic combat.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

You wont come back to the battle because you refuse to learn something new. I mean its pretty clear, as your name suggests, that you only come on the site to debate with every Marvel fan and try to wrong them. You are subjective not objective and you are a hypocrite. You do not think logical and you are a hardcore fanboy. Ill change my mind about the outcome of the battle once someone gives me a a great reason why Batman is the superior. But for now no one has had a plausible reason for Batman winning. Three words, quality over quantity
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Oh, one more thing. SirSpidey, you make "ZERO sense", not me.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Over fifteen people have given you tons of evidence about how Batman would win, but you still deny it. And when you start losing in a discussion/argument, you resort to insults. No matter how much information is thrown at you, you refuse to think about a fight between these two superheroes would actually go. Its been half a year and you still think that somehow Captain America would beat Batman. That's my point. And now that I've said my piece I'm not coming back to this battle, because I know that you're just going say something about how stupid I am, how I don't know anything about Captain America or Batman, or what I say, makes no sense.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

And YOUR point IS......? Do think Im supposed to stop HAVING a good friendly DEBATE all of a sudden? You make ZERO sense
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

So, I'm back from vacation, I check for anything new on this battle, and I notice two things. One, the list of comments on this battle got SUPER long. And two, Sirspidey is STILL the only one arguing that Captain America would beat Batman in a fight.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

WTH?? Batman is listed as stronger than Captain America?? Ummm, no. Not unless he's wearing his specially armored exoskeleton version, which he normally doesn't. The standard modern bat-suit will not give him that much of a strength upgrade to surpass Capt.
This would be a long, tough battle between two legendary icons. I could see this one evenly split, but if pressed I'd go with Batman for 50.1%.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

All it takes is one well planted adhesive grenade and Rogers is immobilized. Batman is prepared for most anything and has the edge in tactics and utility. I see how Cap. could win, but if you play out the fight allowing both characters their traditional comic book battle strategies, if Roger's doesn't take Batman down right away, the bat will revise his strategy and end it with a move 2-3 steps ahead of the Cap.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Batman is Smarter and has better combat skills also he has the stealth to. Captain America is strong but Batman with all the gadgets and stealth beats Cap.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Batman is Smarter and has better combat skills also he has the stealth to. Captain America is strong but Batman with all the gadgets and stealth beats Cap.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Why is sky blue?
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Why is Batman smarter and stronger than Captain America?
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Lol, Captain America wreckless😂😂😂😂. Im done debating with someone who refuses to do enough research on a character and therefore comes off stupid.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

First of all, Steve is plain reckless. While this can yield some positive results, he throws himself into the line of fire every time, often without thought. He challenges beings he has no business clashing with. He takes risks in situations he should never enter in the first place. This isn't a bad thing morally, of course, and he usually comes out on top through his top-notch brain, but a villain may use this to bring about his downfall.
In addition, he is highly loyal to his friends and people in general. He will throw down his life at the drop of the hat for an another, and even drops his shield in hopes Bucky Barnes (The Winter Soldier) will come back to himself. Batman wins for another reason but I'll tell you that later
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Captain America almost never gets his shield taken from him due to how much skill and precision he has with it. If someone does take his shield, Captain America always gets it back quickly. Also, if you actually knew who Captain America is, you would know Captain America is immune to gas bombs and nerve toxins. That is one of the main reasons they made the Super Soldier Serum, to make the subject immune to toxic gas because toxic gas was very popular in World War II. Do some more research on Captain America then come speak to me. I have a question, how do you become technological😂? Do you mean technical?
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

I had to check if I had led poisoning because of China's fidget spinners
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Voted: Batman

Sorry spiderspidey don't give a crap what your name is, this fight is easier than I thought all batman has to do is get ride of his shield quickly and throw a gas bomb to make him pass out than he will kill him if you would like me to get technological just comment below
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

That was intended for Micaiahadair
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

I wrote my reasons why you are mistaken, it just got deleted so Im just going to do a gist. You gave me a Marvel/DC crossover comic (which are not canon) and writers only do crossovers to please fanboys. The Batman vs Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are all noncanon because they are crossovers. Captain America doesnt have to be rich when he has SHIELD. Captain America is as smart as a human can be, concluding that he is as smart as Batman because Batman is a human. Do some more research on Captain America then come speak to me.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Because he loose battles versus much more powerful opponents dont change a thing. Batman is not supposed to battlle Superman Martian Manhunter or Wonder Woman anyways. Batman is the the dark Knight battling crime in Gothem !
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Batman is together with Superman and Spiderman the most known and loved superhero in the world.
Because of this the dark Knight defeats oponents he would have no chans what so ever against. Batman would be wiped out of existence if there were some realism in the story or battle.
I dont understand why a lot of die hard fans refuse to understand who and what the character is ?
For me he is the dark vigilante of the night battling crime in Gothem. He is a human, a homo sapiens with no superpowers. Probably the most capable of his species there is because of skill and resources.
But lets face it he is a Peak human with all the limitations that means. He grows old, gets diseases, have to eat drink sleep and breath. I dont think this makes the character less intresting or good, i think its the oposite.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Before I go to sleep and get you with a striking hitter, batman has defeated the hulk not even knowing what his weakness is and he defeated him he faced a 4-1 handicap fight against the teenage mutant ninja turtles and won he is a quick thinker he has a utility belt with everything including shark repellent spray and is rich and is smart and has the best car in comic history and has Alfred plus cap is not as smart as batman he couldn't find out their weaknesses are
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

@Micaiahadar: Batman may have beaten some of those powerful characters by finding there weaknesses, but he only found there weaknesses because he had prep time. If half of the characters in every universe had years of prep time, they all could most likely defeat all the members of the Justice League, Captain America could definitely do it. And in this battle it isnt brains over brawns, its brains over brains and brawns with Captain America having brains and brawns.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

@SirSpidey I have a question who are some of the most powerful superheroes batman has defeated, I'LL ANSWER IT FOR YOU. now I know batman defeated captain America by a vote, but still... SUPERMAN LEX LUTHOR TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES HULK CATWOMEN AZRAEL GREEN ARROW JASON TODD AND THE JUSTICE LEAGUEEEEEEEEE how did he defeat all of his opponent's that standed in his way, HE FINDS THEIR WEAKNESS. or just plain defeats them. BRAINS OVER BRAWNS. and just like I said, HE BEAT THE ENTIRE JUSTICE LEAGUE BY FINDING ALL OF THEIR WEAKNESSES. TOP THAT.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

@SirSpidey lol😂😂😂
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

@wolfdragon123: Of course Batman can hurt Deathstroke, he can only regenerate. Deathstroke can be hurt like any other ordinary human. Batman never hurt Solomon Grundy at any point in time. He might have punched him a lot when Soloman Grundy wasnt himself and out of it, but he has never hurt Solomon Grundy in a fair fight.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

@Spectre94: If someone can PUNCH through concrete, Im sure he can hurt Batman. If Batman were to be beaten with a thick wooden club, his arm would brake, unlike Batman, the stick would eventually brake on Captain Americas arm and he would feel no discomfort. Captain America has just as much vigourous training, enough combat skills to beat Batman, just as much intelligence, and just as much resources as Batman. Captain America beats him in anyway
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Batman takes this, though it won't be easy.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

I don't know who would win to be honest... it would be a close fight. But one thing I just need to say, yes Batman has stealth, but don't forget Cap has also been known to be pretty stealthy when he needs to be, he isn't just some loud brute that is going to go ballistic everywhere. Second, intelligence..... people keep saying Bat's will win because he's way smarter than Cap. Yes, Bat's is smarter than Cap in many fields, but people need to realize that Cap isn't just dumb as a bag of rocks, he actually is pretty smart. Also Cap is really smart in the field of strategics and warfare. Again, it may sound like I think Cap would win, but I don't... I don't know who I think, its a really good fight. What I'm doing is just debunking some comments I feel didn't accurately present one of the contestants, if I find some for Bats I would do the same. But finally, what I got from this comment section is that people think Captain America is a dumb, loud, clumsy, brute.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

This site got it wrong... it says Batman can lift more than Captain America...
1,936lbs vs 1,210lbs..... Just no...
1+ years member.
Not voted yet

people forget that batman is sneaky he isn't going to always straight up fistfight a guy he knows is physically stronger so he will use the shadows and distractions to make sure he would leave cap always guessing a smoke bomb some knockout gas would be effective.
3+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Adding on to what Spectre94 said, if Batman is able to hurt Deathstroke and Solomon Grundy (who are of course more durable than Captain America) then he should have no problem hurting Cap.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

If someone can snap tree half with single blow then that person can definitely hurt Captain America. Because of his intense training and the batsuit Bruce is resistant to physical injury and even gunfire. As I stated in my earlier comments Batman has the all the training, skills, intelligence and resources he would ever need to defeat Captain America.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

Batman can punch Captain America all he wants with his different forms of martial arts but Captain America isnt going to feel much due to his extremely durable body. Besides, he is adept in every form of martial arts so he will be able to keep up pretty easily. Also, he can just master what form of martial arts he hasnt yet mastered when he is fighting Batman. Captain America is too powerful, durable, perfect, tactical, etc. for Batman.
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Batman obviously wins, he knows all the existing martial arts, he is more skilled in hand-to-hand combat and he is also much more intelligent than the cap.
1+ years member.
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@SirSpidey again doesn't make sense .From what I can tell he's much quicker, but not necessarily smarter. So he can manage anything a highly-trained fairly intelligent officer of his experience but much more rapidly than baseline humans. This doesn't give Cap the brain to conceptualize and decipher a huge range of information the way the real geniuses like Richards or Stark can, but within his area of expertise Rogers is top-notch
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@SirSpidey again doesn't make sense .From what I can tell he's much quicker, but not necessarily smarter. So he can manage anything a highly-trained fairly intelligent officer of his experience but much more rapidly than baseline humans. This doesn't give Cap the brain to conceptualize and decipher a huge range of information the way the real geniuses like Richards or Stark can, but within his area of expertise Rogers is top-notch
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

The only thing I would say about intelligence is. Having the aptitude to learn something isn't the same as learning it. Example: Captain America knows less than a lot of the people mentioned but he's never studied everything that they have. Reed Richards knows a ton about 1000's of subjects, including astrophysics, neuroscience, robotics, etc. I think you could argue Captain America could learn those things but that's not the same as already knowing it.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

If Captain America is as smart as a human can be then he is as smart as Reed Richards, Iron Man, Hank Pym, and Batman. End of argument. There is no logical argument opposong it
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@SirSpidey cap is way below iron man's intellect top 3 greatest minds is reed richards,iron man, and hank pym. caps not even in top 15. Iron man has proved his intellect in countless ways most notably the buster suits and iron man suits. Hank pym ultron and pym particles, reed time and space travel. Cap has as much intelligence as maybe peter parker. Batman who has an intellect on par with lex one if not the most smartest men on the planet. With enough prep time batman can beat anyone. Do you know why everyone says this its because batman is smart enough to do this. Look a man who missed a century of knowledge and doesn't want to learn any other fields besides a few cant be smarter than someone who is a master in 9
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@SirSpidey cap is way below iron man's intellect top 3 greatest minds is reed richards,iron man, and hank pym. caps not even in top 15. Iron man has proved his intellect in countless ways most notably the buster suits and iron man suits. Hank pym ultron and pym particles, reed time and space travel. Cap has as much intelligence as maybe peter parker. Batman who has an intellect on par with lex one if not the most smartest men on the planet. With enough prep time batman can beat anyone. Do you know why everyone says this its because batman is smart enough to do this. Look a man who missed a century of knowledge and doesn't want to learn any other fields besides a few cant be smarter than someone who is a master in 9
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

As I said before the super soldier serum gave Captain America a perfectly healthy mind, It didn't make him any smarter, and he is definitely not on the same level as batman and Iron man. there is no logic behind your argument. I'm done trying to explain this to a fanboy who actually thinks that Captain America is just as smart as these characters.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

I mean Captain America is as smart as every single one of the people you mentioned because he is as smart as a human can be, like I have said multiple times. So, tell me why you think Captain America isnt as smart as Batman. There really is no logical or valid argument saying he is not as smart as Batman so I dont know why you think this is ridiculous
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

This is just getting ridiculous, @SirSpidey you actually think Captain America just as smart as Batman, Read Richards and Iron man. If this is how you think then you don't know these characters at all.
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

You literally make zero sense. If Captain America is as smart as a human can be, then he is as smart as Tony Stark and Reed Richards and Ant-Man and Batman and etc. Im going to say what Ive been saying to every other fanboy who still wants to debate, if you want my opinion, scroll down to my past comnents. There you will find every argument I have explaining how Captain America is as smart as Batman. Also, I dont undrstand how your brain works, you think that Captain America cant get smarter? Your a joke, seriously
1+ years member.
Voted: Batman

Just because he is older does not mean he knows more also smart as a human can be so your saying his smarter then spiderman or reed richards uh no and even if cap was to become smarter there is nothing stopping batman from getting smarter and continuing the cycle also of technically batman has been around longer because you know when he was sent back through time and lived through the centuries,cap is only about a century old batman is century's older,also his mind being faster only means he reacts faster,also lets put it like this cap doesn't need to get smarter so he stays around the same,while batman is always getting smarter and learning so that he can stay at top.
Obviously you don't understand what your talking about and refuse to accept that cap is not super smart his smart sure but no where near the level of batman and others
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

That second comment was intended for @Cryptoguy
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

If a brain is faster and more efficent, that means that person is greater at learning then any other human. So with that being said, dont you think Captain America would know much more than Batman if he has been around before Batman was ever born? It literally says he is as smart as a human can be and Batman is a human. There really is no plausible debate to oppose Captain America from not being as smart if not smarter than Batman. Im just going to pretend you didnt say the other things. You know nothing of what you are talking about
2+ years member.
Voted: Captain America

@Spectre: If you want my opinion just scroll down to my past comments. Im not repeating what Ive already said. Ive responded to every statement you have made in that comment