Goku vs Star Storms II

Kakarot vs Brian Jenkins

Created by: ManofPower

Character 1

Character 2

6 wins (50%)

Goku

Kakarot

23

Powergrid

Intelligence
80
80%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
75
75%
25%
Durability
90
90%
Power
100
100%
Combat
100
100%

uSTATS

23
Intelligence
60
60%
Strength
100
100%
Speed
95
95%
5%
Durability
95
95%
Power
100
100%
Combat
100
100%
Based on 185 entries.

Strength level

Incalculable / Limit unknown

Appearence

Gender male
Race Saiyan
Height 5'9 // 175 cm
Weight 137 lb // 62 kg

Comments

Voted: Star Storms II

@imabatman42 You Still wanna do this?
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Sure
Voted: Star Storms II

Alright so who do you think would win ?
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Goku
1+ years member.
Voted: Goku

That was short lived
2+ years member.
Voted: Star Storms II

Soul, where are you getting all those numbers from? Goku has only just now became SINGULAR universal, he was close to Beerus in the Battle Of The Gods saga, where it took them 5.5 punches each and a full power KameHameHa to destroy a universe that's 1/20th/30th of a universe buster, in Tevival of F saga, Frieza was still shit scared of Beerus, meaning he isn't much stornger than SSG Goku, BARELY SSB Goku, which isn't that much stronger than Goku was as a SSG AT ALL! Also, he didn't train to get stronger, he trained to master god ki, even now that's what he's been training to do, his base power from BOG to Tournament of Power wouldn't of risen any more than by an extra 100%, still 10th/15th of a universe destroy in God form and 5th/10th of a universe destroyer in his Blue form, maybe a universe destroyer 1.25 - 1.5 times over in his Omen state and 2x over in his unleashed Ultra Instinct state.
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

@TheNemianLion I've already proven Ultra instinct is 4th dimensional. The numbers I used to simplify it for me because the hyperversal and complex multiversal don't mean anything to me and let's say goku's fight with beerus was only 1/30th universal, and Goku caused half of that so he is 1/60th universal, and absorbed a portion of that into his base making him 1/90th universal. super saiyan is 50x making him 50/90th universal because math, double that for ssj2 100/90th universal so he is above universal ssj3 is ssj2 x 4 so that makes him 400/90th universal and super saiyan god is at least twice that so 800/90th universal ssgss (Blue) is another 50x so 4000/90th universal than kioken x20 so 80000/90th universal, which makes Goku 888.9x universal and that is just simple math, and he becomes even stronger as the series goes on.
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Proofed his is at least low Multiversal, if not more.
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Evidence for the multipliers is from the Daizenshuu 7.
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

And again the proof for how UI (a form where you move without thinking) is 4th dimensional, Hit imprisoned Jiren in a time cage. Jiren was trapped outside of the 3rd dimension and he casually without trying, I mind you, broke out of it. So being generous (again) 50% of Jirens power puts him at least at 4th dimensional. You double that when Jiren is going 100% all out making him at least low to mid-4th dimensional and Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku completely manhandled a being with low-4th dimensional attack potency and durability so that means Goku MUI is Mid-4th dimensional.
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

So in conclusion Goku is high multiversal, (infinite 3rd) and mastered Ultra instinct is mid-4th dimensional (low balled)
Voted: Star Storms II

Ok
So Goku defeats Storms now
But in the future ( Maybe a week or two) I'll like to rematch this
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Alright it was a fun debate, but remember this is old Goku not current so I'll gladly debate you again in the future.
Voted: Star Storms II

How
Power of Zeus
1000x Low Multiversal = High Multiversal
+
Spirit
High Multi Universal in base form
+
Fire Damon Chorkna
Mid Multiversal
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

How much stronger does Spirit and Fire Damon Chorka make Storms.
Voted: Star Storms II

High Multiversal + High Multi Universal = Complex Multiversal
Complex Multiversal + Mid Multiversal = Low-Mid Complex !Multiversal
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Ok Spirit is 1000x so that makes him 2000x and Fire Damon is 500x so that makes him 2500, Goku is 1500x add Kio ken x20, so 1500 x 20 = 3000x so Goku is still 500x stronger.
Voted: Star Storms II

Do you mind if I change the Meteorite Punch real quick ?
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Do it after this debate or that would be considered cheating.
Voted: Star Storms II

Alright
Voted: Star Storms II

Well
Old Goku vs Non-Serious Storms
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

I want Storms to be serious don't hold anything back, Goku's base form is low Multiversal (1.5) and I will ignore all the training as it isn't stated how much stronger it makes him. Goku at God is twice as strong as super saiyan 3 (100X boost) 1.5 x 100 = 150x universal then double that 300x universal then a additional 50x is 1500x which is high multiversal so that puts him above Storms base.
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

And the meteorite punch won't make a difference, it is 55200 Joules which couldn't even destroy Pluto (2.427×10^17= 242700000000000000 Joules) and Raditz could blow up Earth which is much more durable than Pluto and Goku took attacks of that magnitude during the saiyan saga.
Voted: Star Storms II

Well Serious Storms is Multiversal ( 1.0)
And I thought the meteorite punch could destroy a galaxy after this debate I'm going to have to boost it up
But here are the forms of Storms
Non-Serio us
Multi-Universal
Serious
Low Multiversal
power of Zeus
1000x his Serious Form
Ancestry
THis is his most powerful form
He has the combined power of His power of Zeus form , The Spirit (Mark cass) , And Fire Damon
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

So Storms is 1000x Universal while Goku is 1500x Universal, that is a 500x difference so Goku wins.
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

In Super Saiyan Blue.
Voted: Star Storms II

Ok
What abnout Ancestry vs Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

That is Ancestry vs super saiyan god super saiyan and Goku is 500x stronger.
Voted: Star Storms II

Here we Go
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Before we start let's put a pause on the Thor Wonder Woman debate.
Voted: Star Storms II

Ok
I don't see your comment
I posted one
So you go first
Voted: Star Storms II

*Didnt
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

Goku has been shown to be low multiuniversal before the ROF arc even began, I'll start here and if necessary I'll continue to the later stages of Super.
Voted: Star Storms II

Ok I'll use Normal Star and when goku gets stronger hell get stronger
Round One
Base forms
So you said Goku at base is low Multi universal
While Star is just normal Multi Universal
3+ years member.
Voted: Goku

No Goku at his Base is near 4th dimensional, the ROF arc happened 3 years ago I am using old Goku for this debate current Goku stomps but we'll get there when we do.

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