Heartstone vs Lionman

Dr. Angela Prince vs Daniel Howe

Created by: LordTracer

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2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman and Heartstone go blow to blow with each other with many powerful fist. Lionman catch Heartstone by surprise and punch her in the gut. Heartstone ****** down holding her stomach. Lionman Grab her hair and says "Still want to go?" Heartstone looks up and head butts him making Lionman fall back to the ground.

Heartstone looks at him say "I would never fall to the likes of you." Heartstone raise her glowing hand to a poor defenseless Lionman on the ground. Lionman struggle to get up.

Just then Star Storm Slams his fist on the ground making Heartstone lose her balance, falling on the ground next to Lionman. Princess Aqua waves her hands in the air causing a small flood around Lionman and Heartstone. Princess Aqua quickly froze the water and use her Cryo Freeze to trap Lionman and Heartstone.

Lionman looks very surprise. "WHATS THE MEANIMG FOR THIS!" Lionman said breaking out of the Ice. Starstom and Princess Aqua walks up to them with dark eyes. Heartstone stand up and analyzed the to. Heartstone notice two black chips on Starstrom shoulder. "Lionman something not right look." She points up looking over the sun being half blocked.

To Be Continue.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

No but really though, Lionman would win, especially if neither are holding back, or blood lusted if you will, Pyro Lion has the ability over holy fire, molecular dissipation, reality warping, dimensional travel, dimensional collapse, etc, even his weapons have a god boost.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

If we're talking bloodlusted, I don't see why Heartstone can't just pull the oxygen from Lionman's lungs. Or transform the air molecules in his lungs to oil. And then there's the Omni-Power form, where she has total control over the fundamental forces of the multiverse on a sixth dimensional scale.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Do you seriously think that he needs to breathe? If he has the ability her reality warping and molecular dissipation, heck he could just turn her brain into a back hole with the solar mass of a universe if he REALLY wanted to, he could just transport to her a reality where her powers don't work, heck, he could even just erase her from existance, or instantly combust her molecules, while she's too busy trying to render him unable to breathe.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Reality warping - Okay, she doesn't really have a defense against reality warpers.
Molecular dissipation - Energy isn't made of molecules.
Transport her - You'd have to transport her to a reality where's there's no energy, which is literally impossible.
Existence erasure - I'll give you that one.
Molecular combustion - Energy's still not made of molecules.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Realities aren't universes, if Pyro Lion wanted to put her in a room with four walls, without energy, he could, because he writes reality, he has half the power of Leonus, Leonus' father, Kolasius is the ANCESTOR OF ZEUS, ODIN AND RA! Pyro Lion is above any of those three individually, not put together though.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Okay, so Pyro Lion could beat normal Heartstone. But Omni-Power Heartstone is also a reality warper, and can manipulate divine energy, demonic energy, as well as the aether.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

How is that going to stop her from not existing or being sent to a reality where nothing exists?
Voted: Lionman

Lol the 2 creators of these OC's defending there OC's
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Something wrong with that?
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "Y-You're going to make me get on my knees... A-AND BEG!? Me... The Prince of Oceania... What did I get into... Fine..." Lionman gets on his hands and knees and announces "Heartstone, the most powerful of the superheroes, I pledge full and complete undying adoration and loyalty to you... I pledge to follow every command and wish made, and essentially, become your bitch..."
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: *smiles* "I just might give you a second date for that."
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Are we roleplaying now?
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Yeah, kinda.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

@DarkProgidy Reply to this one instead, we're role playing on the other one.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

This is soft at worst, King Thanos made Hulk his pet? Why is it so bad when a female does it? They can have just as much power if not more over a man than another man can, Lionman wanted a date, only way he could do that is if he served Heartstone, he's serving her, you're really acting like it's worse than it actually is, please be more mature
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

I got to get some sleep too y'all, Goodnight!
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Alright. Rest well, my friend.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

This is the only problem with oc battles, the people who created the ocs will never vote against them
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Not true, I have voted against Heartstone before.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

ok, bu you get my point like atleast 75% of the time
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

I'll vote against Lionman if the opposer can provide sufficient facts and arguments.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Or if the opponent is OP to the point that it's unfair.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

But I will defend my character as much as possible, but I won't make shit up just so they can win.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Changing my vote to Lionman
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

You've made the right choice
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

The NEW New comment chain for this debate, hopefully THIS ONE goes uninterrupted
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

So, does Lionman have any defense against Heartstone draining the energy that lets him fight efficiently?
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman has almost an endless amount of stamina as he shown against Petrinos, who is a really big deal being the son of Ares and Athena and more powerful than both of them, he also has a healing factor that can rejuvenate he's lost energy being that if its sugars, protein, magnesium, iron, whatever.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Okay, what if Heartstone uses her light manipulation to blind Lionman?
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

He'll use his flash light to blind her in revenge, or Lionman just closes his eyes.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Could she freeze him so he'd be immobilized?
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

He has high body heat levels, so not for long, the angrier he gets the more his body heats up, he is also a larger person so he is hotter than he would be say if he was the size of an average man, he is almost weighing a ton at over 9 feet tall.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Hm... electrokinesis to temporarily paralyze him?
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Maybe... Depends if the armour can absorb it... Would it even do much damage to him?
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

If she's just going for paralysis, it probably won't do too much. If she's just shooting bolts of lightning, it would probably do some damage.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

How powerful are these lightning bolts? Could they do damage to Lionman? Again, they'd only be effective from far range, and Lionman can disable that.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Well, they could be effective at close range if she grabs him and shoots the bolts directly from her hands to his body. And the bolts can range from a light shock to multi-solar system destroying weapons.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

That sounds like it could be a really painful way for Heartstone to get kinky on Lionman, it'd really hurt him, but it wouldn't keep him down, I doubt it could paralyze him though, because none of the concussive force would connect, only the heat, unless she's attacking below the belt, where armour isn't covering him, then, well, it'll be really bad for him, but that wouldn't keep him down.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Honestly, Heartstone's the type of person who would attack below the belt.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

She'd apologize for it later, but she's still do it with little hesitation.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Yeah, that's going to really hurt Lionman... I don't think it'll necessarily keep Lionman down, but it will effect him throughout the fight.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

How exactly would it affect him?
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Really he'd just be in a lot of pain, it'd slow his concentration down, he might slip up a little, he'd be less mobile.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Would it slow his concentration to the point that his predictions would be less on-point? So Heartstone would be able to get more hits in?
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

To a very limited extent, yeah.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

See, once she notices that he's disoriented, she's probably going to aim under the belt again.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

As soon as she repeats it, Lionman's going to give her a point blank range Lion roar to the face.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

That would definitely hurt her, and send her flying back. But with Lionman moving slower from her two attacks on his... lower areas, she'd probably try to attack him with super speed, moving all around him to attack on several fronts.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

In which he'd land a knee to her lower reigon and the impact would damage her ovaries... Revenge is a bitch ey?
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Ooh... even after she heals, that'd still hurt like hell.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

After that they just go back and forth, back and fourth, back and fourth, you get it... Then... That much contact with the lower region would have to get them aroused.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

The problem there would be that they (two beings with incredible superhuman strength) just beat the hell out of each other's genitalia (and not in the fun way).
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Superhero MR and MRS Smith anyone?
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

I don't get it. What's Mr. and Mrs. Smith?
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Basically two spies who used to be married and hate each other, they beat the ever living shit out of each other then smashed each other.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Oh. Sounds interesting.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

How would the fight even continue after that? If it did?
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman would probably try to choke Stone out.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Since she has self-sustenance, and doesn't need to breathe, she'd probably just be like,
"You know, if you wanted to get kinky, you could have just asked."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "Well you see Ms. Low Blow, I thought I left enough signs... But... Hey, let's get kinky"
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Though, in all seriousness, she could get out of his grip by transforming into an element or energy.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Then what?
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

I don't know. I'm starting to think this fight would just go on and on until they both get tired and call a draw.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Then they Wrestle in the bed room, Idk, lol.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Yeah, probably, lol. After the fight, Heartstone would be like, "Okay, we tied, but for all intents and purposes, I won."
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

How else could this fight continue without it ending in a stalemate?
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Heartstone chokes out Lionman while grinding? XD
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I don't know... Maybe they beat the shit out of each other until they have a plan? I don't see how they could keep each other down for to long... Do you have any ideas?
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Yeah, that's definitely end the fight early. XD
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Not really. The only way to put Heartstone out of commission for an extended amount of time would be to use an energy disruptor on her. It would mess with the energy that makes up her body, and leave her out of commission for a while. Otherwise, I don't really know.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

That's a way for Heartstone to keep Lionman down for good! XD
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Maybe after they finish beating the shit out of each other Lionman be like "Screw this, I'm hungry... Wanna just go on that date? I'll be your secretary and we'll call it a draw?"
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Sure. I'm still gonna say that I won, though."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "Heh, just like you would, fine, I'll play along, congratulations on the win Heartstone, I am now yours to command"
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: *smirks* First, I'm gonna need you to get down on your knees and pledge your undying loyalty and adoration to Heartstone, strongest of the superheroes."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "In that case, I better keep the ass kissing going right?" Smirks as he transforms back into his human form as his armour goes back into his belt
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Figuratively?" *smirks suggestively* "Or literally?"
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Daniel: All depends on how far you wanna take this and what you're willing to MAKE me do.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Angela: "There's a lot of things I'm willing to make you do. The question is if you can handle them."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Daniel: No need to worry about what I can handle, you're the boss here, you tell me what to do, I do it, whether I can handle it or not.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Angela: "I'd rather that you can handle it. I wouldn't want you to break before we get to the really fun stuff."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Daniel: Angela, I DON'T break.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Angela: "Okay, then." *grabs Daniel and flies them both to Prince Tower* "I want you to carry me, on your back, up to the top of the tower. Three times." *zipas away for a nanosecond, and returns with a small capsule in both hands* "With the weight of a star also on your back."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Daniel: "Oh... So that's the sort of thing you're gonna make me do, whelp... I better get started *Transforms back into the Lionman* Hop on, feel free to be as tight and move as much as you want, I live to serve ma'am."
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: *smirks evilly as she gets an idea* "And I want you to crawl up. On your hands and knees."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Daniel: *Pauses before adding* Yes... But a request, perhaps you could put me on my hands and knees, forcefully, violently, after all I am your bitch.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Hm. I didn't think you'd be into that kinda stuff, Daniel. But if you insist..." *Makes a motion with her hands, and telekinetically forces Daniel to his knees before pushing him down to his hands*
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "Well it's better that I try to enjoy this the most I can... Besides, it's not like anyone's gonna see this... Uh... Crap..."
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Oh, did I forget to mention that it's a very busy day today, and the building is full of people?" *sits on Lionman's back, one leg on top of the other. She places the star capsule down as well* "Mush, kitty."
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

And i'm gonna have to stop you guys there i'm afraid
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: *Feels the pressure of the star and almost loses balance put regains himself sweating* "Why do I even say anything..." *The then Lionman obediently starts crawl through the rooms and up the stairs, the people watching are either confused, or amused, many chuckling and some even recording with their phone* "My... My pride..."
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Having fun, Daniel? Because I sure am."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: *Not enjoying himself at all* "Whatever pleasures you ma'am, pleasures me..." *Clearly in a lot of emotional and physical pain*
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Aw, don't worry, Daniel. I've got a special reward planned for you later."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

The Lionman: *After hearing that he was more motivated, but still completely embarrassed* "Yes ma'am" *Lionman comments climbing floor after floor*
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Are you guys gonna start jacking off or something?
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

*they finally reach the top floor* Heartstone: "Oh, you can meet my teammates now." *smirks and pushes the door open. The Sentinels of Justice are there, all fifteen members occupying the room.
Photon: "Um... what the hell?"
Heartstone: *evil-smirks again* "Introduce yourself, Daniel."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "I... I didn't know there was going to be... I'm Daniel Howe, I go by the name Lionman, I am the most... Second most powerful Superhero in any and all Realities... I'm also... Heartstone's... Bitch..."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

@DarkProdigy That's a very inappropriate comment.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

I've seen worse on the site
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: *breaks out laughing*
Photon: "O... kay... I'm just gonna go back to what I was doing."
Heartstone: *mid-laugh* "Back down, Daniel. Go, kitty."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "Yes, master..." *Lionman with struggle exited the room and went down the stairs, he met a group of people in a floor laughing their head off, soon as he entered the room he growled and they all went silent, after he went down that floor, they started laughing again*
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "I think the team likes you." *runs her hand through his hair* "Wouldn't you agree, Daniel?"
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "Oh yeah! They love me!... Sorry ma'am, yes, you're right, as always" kept crawling down the stairs
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Dont start acting out now, or I might have to punish you." *her voice takes a suggestive tone* "Unless you want to be punished."
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

I'm gonna have to sign off for now. It's late here, and I need to get to sleep. We'll continue tomorrow.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Alright, goodnight man, we'll continue tomorrow. 😀
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Alright, I'm back.
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "Punished?... What else could I want... Your majesty, I have been misbehaving"
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "If you want it, you'll get it. But maybe not in here. Unless you'd rather have me destroy the last remaining layers of your pride."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "N-No, that could make other people uncomfortable your highness..." *By other people that meant himself*
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: *thinking back over her idea* "I think they'll be fine." *gets off of Lionman's back and snaps her fingers, dispersing the molecules of Lionman's armor* "I'll fix that later, but as for now..." *Heartstone created a whip of energy and threw it around Lionman's neck like a leash.* "Now, continue going through the tower."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: *He begins to start choking and weeping as his throat burns, he begins to project inaudible sounds of pain, so much so, tears actually began to form in his eyes as he was struggling to brace the weight of the star on his back as he was in pain because of the leash, he wasn't going to give her the full satisfaction of him breaking especially not yet, so he just got back up on his hands and knees and continued crawling, like an animal panting and weezing.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: *slightly loosening the leash* "You know, you're surprisingly good at being submissive."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "...W-Well" *coughs* "W-When you're dominant all of the time" *coughs more* "It gets boring... I guess it's something I never knew I wanted..."
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Being dominant isn't always boring. Case in point-" *she slightly increases the power of the leash, giving Lionman a shock* "When I can do stuff like this."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: *Squirms and groans in her possession* "Y-YES MA'AM" *Finishes the first lap*
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "You know, since you're being such a good kitty, I'll only make you do one more lap."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lion man: "Thank you you're highness, you are most gracious and compassionate" *Lionman doesn't want to waste too much of his master's time, so he begins climbing again*
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "How's your neck feeling, Daniel? You think I should maybe turn up the heat?" *raises the power of the leash*
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: *Cries out with groaning and moaning as he starts sobbing with tears forming and falling out of his eyes, he can barely talk, but his master demands his cooperation "T-Tha... Thank..." *groans* "YOU!"
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: *retracts the leash, which reveals that the fur on Lionman's neck was singed black* "I think that's enough of that for now."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: *As his master retracted the Leah he found himself struggling to breathe, his eyes were watering heavily as he could barely see* "Y-y-y-your m-m-m-majesty, what now?"
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Not sure. Why don't you think of something."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "I want you to pubically strip any dominance I have left... Un-man me..."
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

kinky
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Tempting, but if I do that, I can't have fun with you later."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "Then it's saved till after your fun, you've choked me out, the obvious next step would be to go to a spanking your majesty"
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: *raises an eyebrow* "You really want to do that? *creates a paddle out of energy* Cause I guarantee that's gonna hurt a lot more than the leash."
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

And that's enough internet for today, I have to go bleach my eyes. Be right back
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "No... I need it... Please... Your highness... Give it to me..." *Lionman braces for pain*
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Well, if you insist..." *swings the paddle as hard as she can without seriously hurting him*
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "The Lionman screamed in agony as the paddle made impact with the once proud hero, he prepared for what was nex*
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "The Lionman screamed in agony as the paddle made impact with the once proud hero, he prepared for what was next*
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: *swings again, weaker this time, but loosing a few small jolts of electricity*
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "A...Angela..." *While Lionman was healing from the wounds, the pain still remained, he felt weak, helpless, something he hasn't felt for decades, ever since he became a hero, he was confused* "I... I don't know how to feel about this..."
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Do you want to stop?"
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "I... I don't think so..." *The Lionman was confused, but he did find the pain exhilarating, and he did like Heartstone in an authoritative position over him.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Are you sure?" *while Heartstone liked being in the dominant position, she didn't want to keep going if Lionman didn't like it*
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "Maybe?... I don't... UGH... Maybe it's a bit much... Maybe less pain, more embarrassment? We could try that?"
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: *dissipates the paddle* "Okay, so what could we do then?"
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "You mean other than being the prettiest two in the building? I don't know, you're the boss, you make me do things"
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: *shrugs* "I'm running out of ideas. How about we end this for now, and we go on that date I owe you?"
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "Alright, well, you've put me through enough torment, I believe it's only fair, sure, let's do it... But first, the star capsule... Could it please be removed?" *Still holding it up*
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: *grabs the capsule and flies it back to its containment unit* "Okay, so what do you want to do?"
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: *Smiles* "Thank you, you into French?"
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Ugh, school's starting. I'll get back on when I can.
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Yeah."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Daniel: *Reverts to base form* "I've heard they have one of the best cuisines in the world, do you know any good places? Or should I just use menu log?"
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "Use the menu. I don't know any French places."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Daniel: "That is unless you have a place in mind, it is your city, how about you show me around and we'll take it from there? *Daniel confidently smiles*
Voted: Lionman

lmao
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: "You can decide where to go. But if you want a tour of the city, we can do that."
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "Well that certainly would help, sure! Show me around m'lady"
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone: *grabs Lionman's hand* "Then hold on." *blasts into the sky*
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

Lionman: "Ooompf!" Lionman says as the recoil almost winds him a bit du to Heartstones sudden speed
2+ years member.
Voted: Lionman

New comment chain for the debate, hopefully goes uninterrupted.
Voted: Lionman

Ok so how powerful is Lion man in hand to hand is he as s killed a Batman or better i understand his strength but tell me just how powerful is he example
Multiverse buster or something like that same for heartstone
Voted: Lionman

Ok so how powerful is Lion man in hand to hand is he as s killed a Batman or better i understand his strength but tell me just how powerful is he example
Multiverse buster or something like that same for heartstone
Voted: Lionman

Sorry I meant to comment that to below
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone, when holding back, is a Multi-Solar System level threat. Her attacks have the force of 45 solar systems behind them. When not holding back, she's multi-universal. And I'm not even going to bring up her full power state, because it's so overpowered it's not even fair.
Voted: Lionman

Wait so your saying she's above galactus I don't think normal Lion man can beat her what about pyro lion vs normal headstone who wins
Voted: Lionman

Wait so your saying she's above galactus I don't think normal Lion man can beat her what about pyro lion vs normal headstone who wins
1+ years member.
Voted: Heartstone

No, they're both multi-universal.
Voted: Lionman

Oh I thought you said multiverse
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Voted: Lionman

Lionman is a solar system buster over 10 - 20 times, but with his Pyro Lion form he is Multi-Universal, he can defeat Morganeth, who is a universe destroyer 5 times over, Leonus is a universe destroyer about 12 times over and Lionman has half that in his Pyro Lion Form, this being a universe destroyer 6 times over, that's for a good reason, but he also has WAY more ability added, Holy Fire, which is far more powerful than Hellfire, Molecular combustion, Molecular dissipation, Reality Warping, Dimensional Travel, etc, it'd be unfair to put him up against full power Heartstone because she probably wouldn't come out of the fight alive, in that form he is just a primal being similar to Aslan, an untamed nigh Omniscient Lion, he can also create clones of himself 1/20th of his own power and he can create up to 10.
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Daniel is close to Bronze Tiger in terms of skill, whose above Batman so, you do the math.
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Voted: Lionman

Alright let's get to debate, do you want to go first Tracer?
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Voted: Heartstone

You can start.
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Voted: Lionman

Alright, this battle is very interesting, because Hearthstone is a good bit faster and stronger, but Lionman deals with opponents like that all the time, let's bring it back pre Lionman, he had only peak human x3 traits yet he was defeating superhumans, he knows how to fight and defeat beings above his level and has before, he is adept at Kung Fu Wing Chun, Jeet Kune Do, Karate, Krav Maga, Kali, Wooshu, Boxing, Tae Kwon Do, Kenjitsu, Board Sword Fighting, Mountain Lion Form and Raion No Micchi, he's skill is so far ahead of hers it's not funny, coupled with her senses he knows everything she would do before she does it, and with his martial arts he can find the best and most effective way to counter it, before she even strikes, Lionman's experience goes over decades.
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Voted: Heartstone

Lionman does have the vast advantage in H2H combat. When it comes to combat, Heartstone is nothing to him. But her strength and speed give her an obvious advantage, and since Lionman is slower than Heartstone, his predictions of her moves won't be as useful as they could be against another opponent.
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Voted: Lionman

Perhaps that would be true if she was leagues faster than him, but Lionman has battled people much faster than him before and through anticipating their actions has derailed them, predicting where she's going to go, how she's going to block or react is monumental as he basically knows her fighting plan and how to perfectly counter, and land hits in.
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Voted: Heartstone

Okay, so as we determined earlier, Lionman moves at around Relativistic (25% the speed of light) speeds. Heartstone moves at FTL (10x the speed of light). So he could probably predict somethings, but not everything. And since Heartstone is a supergenius, she'll realize that he can predict some of her moves and then she'll take to the skies and use her elemental or energy powers.
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Voted: Lionman

In which case Lionman would use his Lion Roar ability, extremely destructive, at least three times he's striking strength, if she doesn't fight him h2h, she's going to get hit with the roar, her energy attacks are absorbed into the armour for the most part and she's winded, Lionman unleashes there.
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Voted: Heartstone

Is the roar energy based? If it is, Heartstone could just absorb it, which would bolster her already impressive healing factor.
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Voted: Lionman

No, it's concussive force.
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Voted: Heartstone

Okay. We'll get back to this tomorrow, so you can sleep.
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Voted: Lionman

I'm back.
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Voted: Heartstone

Okay, so, Heartstone can't absorb the roar, but she could probably put up a force field to defend against it.
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Voted: Lionman

Right, but what of all it's effects? Such as deafening he with white noise or possibly rendering her unconscious?
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Voted: Heartstone

Okay, the noise would down her for a short while, but I doubt it would be enough time for Lionman to truly do anything. And as for knocking her unconscious, not even close. In a fight against the Titanian armada, Heartstone was blasted by a superweapon that had the force of two galaxies behind it. She not only survived, but forced her way through the blast to get inside the superweapon.
Voted: Lionman

What about lion mans sword couldn't that harm heartstone
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Voted: Lionman

Concussive force is different to vibrations and sound waves she would be open as soon as it hits her, and it isn't an instant thing it lasts for like 5 - 10 seconds, how's she going to counter that? It brings her down he hits her with a crane kick into guillotine choke, soon as she gets out of that, if she does, he gets her into a knee bar, you see what I mean? It's just better for her to fight him H2H because the roar is too versatile and destructive.
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Voted: Lionman

It could, but he doesn't want to kill her, just wrestle around with her.
Voted: Lionman

Dude the way you said that sounded dirty 😈
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Voted: Heartstone

@ManofPower, we banned the sword. They're having a friendly fight, and since the sword can slice, it could possibly kill. So we banned it.
@TheNemianLion, if we're going back to H2H, there's still the problem of Heartstone's strength and speed advantages. She hits harder, and is a few levels faster than Lionman.
Lionman has Relativistic speeds. 10 - 50% the speed of light.
Heartstone on the other hand, has FTL speeds. 1 - 10 times faster than light.
There's such a gap there, her speed is too much in a H2H contest, even with Lionman's predictions on what she does.
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Voted: Heartstone

@ManofPower, well, if Lionman wins, he gets a date with Heartstone, so it's bound to get dirty anyway.
Voted: Lionman

Well I'm that case heartstone stomps this batle
Voted: Lionman

Is heartstone married
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Voted: Heartstone

No. She's like a female Tony Stark: genius, billionaire, playgirl, philanthropist. She doesn't really want to settle down with anyone. Yet, at least.
Voted: Lionman

Hehehe Lion man doesn't stand a chance and he wouldn't be able to hAndle heartstone no way no how the man of power can though hehehe😏
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Voted: Lionman

Except Lionman has beaten people with a bigger gap than Hearthstone has to Lionman, that was without his super enhanced senses, he was taking on super villains when he was only 3x peak human, she's coming at him 10 - 20 times faster than him, he merely moves out of her way, she throws a punch, he merely redirects it and throws another one, she tries to do it again he gets her into an armbar.
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Lionman is a similar way, he doesn't want to 'settle down' he's married to his job, and he does like the ladies, I mean, they're too highly sexually active adults, the fight's going to become sexual one way or the other.
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Voted: Lionman

Also, the reason I didn't go over intelligence is because they're both super genius', Lionman has an recorded IQ of 185 and one of 200 in his base form, reason it goes down is because he's becoming more animalistic.
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Voted: Heartstone

What if she starts chaining attacks and techniques together in a way that Lionman can't fight with? Like, he attacks, she transforms into energy, he hits nothing. She transforms back, hits him, and then transforms back.
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Voted: Lionman

He'd memorise how her muscles react, her breathing patterns, when she is about to transform and he'd know when and where she's going to strike, also, I forgot, the gravity disks will slow her down, how much though? 2 - 3 times? That would close the gap by a wide amount.
Voted: Lionman

Why would she want a hairy beast why no Gary Stu like man of power he's perfect hehehe💏👶
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Voted: Heartstone

They would slow her down to Relativistic+ (50 - 100% light speed) at the very least. Though, she would probably start trying to use her actual speed once she gets slowed down. At full speed, she's over 1000 times faster than light (like Superman), so she could increase her speed enough that the discs wouldn't do much.
And as for his predictions, Heartstone could absorb some of his energy to tire him out and make it harder for him to react.
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Voted: Lionman

She's not allowed to amp her speed up to that speed remember? If so we'd have to take Pyro Lion's speed whose 400 - 500 times the speed of light, also, how can she drain his energy?
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Voted: Lionman

Because Man Of Power has no personality, have you seen Lionman's base form? 6'4, 240 pounds, he actually looks like a handsome man, also, he's royalty, he can give Heartstone COUNTRIES, can Man Of Power do that? He can give her people to rule over too.
Voted: Lionman

Yeah he can and Lion man can give her countries spph please man of power can give her galaxy's and give her extreme power and man of power can change his body ............
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Voted: Heartstone

Okay, so no speed amp. And she can drain his energy because all living things need energy to do things in life. Walk, fight, etc. Since Heartstone can manipulate all types of energy, she could drain the energy that lets Lionman continue fighting.
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Voted: Heartstone

The people of Earth treat her like a goddess anyways, via:
1. Being the smartest woman on Earth.
2. Being the greatest superhero on Earth.
3. Being the CEO of the greatest technology manufacturing company on Earth.
4. Being sexy as fu...
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Voted: Lionman

Man Of Power isn't even in this conversation, he's just a random cosmic entity with almost absolute power, if Daniel really wanted, he could go to Kolasius and ask him to create an entire reality catered to how Heartstone wants it... That's a multiverse, connections are key, Heartstone would be THE GOD of that Multiverse.
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Voted: Lionman

There are 50 septillion planets in the universe, anyway, this was a debate between me and LordTracer, why is ManOfPower even in the conversation?
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Voted: Heartstone

Honestly, the concept of gods doesn't mean much to Heartstone. Mainly because she's beaten the ass of the god of strength, god of vengeance and king of the gods.
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Voted: Lionman

Not A God... THE God.
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Voted: Heartstone

Strength - How strong exactly is Lionman? What would his striking strength level be, or his lifting strength level?
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Voted: Lionman

In terms of lifting strength he held the Indo Australian Plate together with the pacific plate, this is more impressive because his villain was pulling them apart, so he also had to outmatch his power too, as well as hold the full weight of the plates.
He is around Star level in his base at full power, Very Large Star Level+ in his Primal state.
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Voted: Heartstone

So, what level would that be on this scale?
http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Lifting_Strength
And star level could hurt Heartstone, but not enough to put her out of the fight. She tanked a blast from The Analyzer (imagine Lex Luthor, but with the tactical mind of Ozymandias, Batman, or Grand Admiral Thrawn from Star Wars) that was said to have the force of the sun behind it.
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Voted: Lionman

Class Z or Y
Well, Meltdown blew up VY CANIS MAJORIS so Lionman is probably 2 - 3 times stronger than that... And Primal Lionman in being that his power increases by a 20 fold can probably destroy 40 - 60 VY CANIS MAJORIS'
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Voted: Heartstone

That would definitely hurt her more, and she would probably need to catch her breath after a hit like that, but I still don't think that would keep her down long.
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Voted: Lionman

That's 10 - 20 Solar Systems of destructive power, how many does she got?
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Voted: Heartstone

Lifting strength, she'd be about Class Y, or just creeping on the border of Pre-Stellar.
Striking strength, I'd say she's around the same level as Lionman, multi-solar system, or galactic.
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Voted: Lionman

Yeah, in an arm wrestle or hand shake she humiliate Lionman but this is a fight, striking strength, I don't know if you are aware, but a galaxy has 100 billion solar systems inside of it... I seriously recommend nerfing down to like 10 - 50 solar systems, but going into this debate a part of me already knew that Hearthstone was physically more powerful
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Voted: Heartstone

Damn, 100 billion? Okay, so, her striking strength has the force of 45 solar systems.
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Voted: Lionman

Alright so Hearthstone is 2.25 - 4.5 times physically stronger than the Lionman.
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Voted: Heartstone

H2H - Heartstone is skilled, but not like Batman-level. She has basic martial arts training, and some extra from fellow superhero Nightshade, who is more-or-less around the Batman-Deathstroke-Shiva level. But from what Nemian said about Lionman's H2H skill, he easily wins in this category.
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Voted: Heartstone

Senses - While Lionman's senses are extraordinary, I doubt they would matter much against Heartstone. If he predicts her movements, he won't really have any time to do anything about it. When bloodlusted, Heartstone flew back from the edge of the universe to Earth in three picoseconds. Since this isn't a to-the-death fight, she obviously won't be going that fast, but she'll still probably move at light, or maybe FTL speeds. Unless Lionman can move at speeds like that, knowing what she's going to do won't matter much.
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Voted: Lionman

Yeah you might also want to need that heavily, but I think FTL is good, Lionman can move at about a quarter of that.
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Voted: Heartstone

Gadgets - That Tonormium armor would be a problem, except for one thing. As Heartstone's body is fused with the elements and energy, she can transform into any type of element or energy. So, if necessary, she could just turn into electricity and fly in between Lionman and the armor in order to attack him. His cloaking device would also be a problem if not for her superhuman senses.
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Voted: Lionman

Air tight sealing is a biatch isn't it?
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Voted: Heartstone

Okay, then. Now it's a problem. Hm... what if she used her pseudo-telekinesis to remove it?
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Voted: Lionman

Which would leave her open, it would be very hard to remove it unless Lionman's willing.
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Voted: Heartstone

Well, shit... I guess if she had no other option, she could just use her molecular manipulation to at least temporarily change the suit so she could attack.
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Voted: Lionman

Lol that is so cheap! XD
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Voted: Heartstone

Hey, I'm running out of options, man! XD.
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Voted: Lionman

Come on dude! She has 60 different powers! Just go through them one by one and we'll see if there's something she has against him! XD
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Voted: Heartstone

Well, I would say put him in a trance with hypnokinesis, but if you can't remove the armor without Lionman willing, that's out the window.
She could phase her hand through it.
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Voted: Lionman

Wouldn't that kill him? Again, this is a friendly fight.
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Voted: Heartstone

Just through the armor, not his body.
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Voted: Lionman

How would that do any damage to him?
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Voted: Heartstone

Not sure if phasing can work like this, but she phases her hand through the armor, and then turns it solid to actually attack him under the armor.
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Voted: Lionman

But if she phased into it she'd lose her hand wouldn't she? When she phases out it may not be there.
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Voted: Heartstone

I think her hand would fuse with the armor.
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Voted: Lionman

Fuse with it's molecules? I don't think that's how phasing works.
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Voted: Heartstone

And even if she lost the hand, she could regrow it. Since her body is part energy, she can just manipulate it to regrow her hand.
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Voted: Lionman

Lionman would be like "OH MY GOD ARE YOU OKAY!? I'M SO SORRY!"
But it wouldn't be a pretty site.
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Voted: Heartstone

Heartstone would just be like.
"No, it's fine, just give me a second." And then her hand regrows.
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Voted: Heartstone

And when I said fuse with it, I mean something like this:
http://news.tfw2005.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2012/10/TF223_ExclKnockoutStuck-571_1349994071.jpg
Like, you're stuck unless you can phase back through it.
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Voted: Lionman

Okay, I'll give her that then, but I'm not certain it'd work like that.
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Voted: Heartstone

Honestly, I'm not sure either. Most of my experience with phasing comes from watching the first three seasons of The Flash, and the few episodes of Transformers Prime when they had a device that let them phase.
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Voted: Lionman

Maybe we'll let someone else decide this for us? @DarkProdigy maybe?
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Voted: Heartstone

Yeah, we should get a third-part opinion.
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Voted: Lionman

For now, do you have anything else you would like to bring up that may aid Heartstone?
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Voted: Heartstone

No, not really. You have anything else for Lionman?
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Voted: Lionman

Excellent, a couple more details and with our compiled information we'll try to get a winner out of this, Lionman's anti gravity disks might be able to slow her down? They render people who are up to Planet busters completely unable to move, he has four of them, so she might be slowed down? Also Lionman's sword is illegal right?
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Voted: Heartstone

The anti-gravity could probably slow her down, but definitely not totally immobilize her. And how powerful was the sword again? Isn't it solar system level?
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Voted: Lionman

about that, it is equal to Lionman's force output, but it also has a slicing mechanism, it could be potentially fatal so I think weapons should be barred.
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Voted: Heartstone

I think we should leave the sword out because it could possibly kill, but if it was a bat or something that didn't slice, it would be okay. Heartstone has already tanked attacks with the force of solar systems behind them.
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Voted: Heartstone

So, I'm going to analyze the points @TheNemianLion made on Lionman v. Sentress, and see how it would go with Heartstone.
Voted: Lionman

Heel ask the queen can you go to the bed room
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Voted: Heartstone

So, @TheNemianLion, who wins this fight?
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Voted: Lionman

How powerful exactly is she?
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Voted: Heartstone

I'm still trying to gage that (I did only create her yesterday), but I'm thinking somewhere around multi-solar system level to galactic when she's just messing around, and multi-universal to low multiversal when she's serious.
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Voted: Lionman

So she gets quadrillion a of times more powerful from messing around to being serious? Does she have a reason for being that powerful? For she doesn't, she might be a Mary Sue
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Voted: Heartstone

Well, her powers are complete control over all energy and elements. So, she could control cosmic energy if she wanted. She understands how powerful she is, so she normally holds back a great deal so not to kill whoever she comes against (because she has a no-killing rule). The only time she ever goes full power is against her nemesis, Soulcrusher, who's equal to her.
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Voted: Heartstone

But if Lionman proves to be a real threat to her, she'll stop holding back as much.
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Voted: Lionman

My suggestion is to create constraints, let her be Solar System level, but she holds back to star level, and she has a super form or a god form that's universal, but only under specific circumstances.
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Voted: Lionman

Read why Lionman beats Sentress on the Lionman Vs Sentress battle, it is very similar here as Lionman will know her every move and out manicure her with his skill.
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Voted: Lionman

I don't see it being a malicious fight, more of a "whoever loses takes out the garbage and does the disses"
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Voted: Heartstone

So, give her a form that's like Binary for Carol Danvers.
I would make her normal state galactic, and she holds back to solar system level though. I want her to be stronger than high herald level beings like Superman, the Silver Surfer, Thor (no Odin/Thorforce).
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Voted: Heartstone

Okay, so Heartstone would have no need to go full power, and Lionman would have no need to go Pyro Lion.
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Voted: Lionman

Readers would appriciate it more if she was more powerful than them in her super form (Superman and Thor are Universal)
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Voted: Lionman

No, he wouldn't use the axe of Nemea as that is a fatal weapon, he'd probably try to subdue her, he does know over a dozen martial arts, he also can hear her breath and her muscle movement to anticipate her attacks.
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Voted: Heartstone

Is Superman really a universal level threat? I know SA Superman is, but is Post-Crisis or N52? I always thought he was galactic at most.
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Voted: Lionman

Superman constantly damages Dadkseid, a Multi Universal level being, he survived Imperiex's most powerful attack, Multi Universal, and many more fears of similar magnitude.
Just a question, If Heartstone wins, what's her stipulation for the Lionman?
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Voted: Heartstone

What do you mean by stipulation?
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Voted: Lionman

If Heartstone wins, what will she make Lionman do?
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Voted: Heartstone

*shrugs* I don't know. You come up with something.
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Voted: Lionman

It's your character dude I don't know her attitude and personality
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Voted: Heartstone

She's basically a female Tony Stark in terms of personality.
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Voted: Lionman

Maybe act as her butler? Do all her paper work? Shine her shoes, iron her cloths?
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Voted: Heartstone

Yeah, that works. What would Lionman make Heartstone do if he won?
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Voted: Lionman

Go on a date with him, what any sensible man would do.
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Voted: Heartstone

Alright. That works.
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Voted: Lionman

Wouldn't her hand get stuck in the armour... It's really hard to visualise, but I'm pretty sure it'd be gross XD
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Voted: Heartstone

She should be able to phase back through afterwards.