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Hitchiker 1 mo 25 d
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Captain America Random encounter with standard gear could go either way but ONLY if Batman plays it smart and uses his gear while keeping his distance. Mano a Mano no gear Steve Rodgers wins over Bruce. Prep time Batman wins over Cap.
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Batman Objectively speaking, Captain America and Batman are pretty evenly matched, but if we consider the canon comic book stories, Batman is the stronger hero among the two, as the only officially completed fight between them ended with the Dark Knight as the victor.
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Hitchiker 1 mo 25 d
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Captain America Only based on votes, with an outside influence in the comic effecting the outcome.
DarkRaven
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Batman It wasn't based on votes. It was a draw between them in that cross-over, Batman catches the shield like it was nothing
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Batman Batman is physically comparable. And when did cap do that?
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Ms_MoNsTeR 2 mo 14 d
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Batman Go Batman :)
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phamhungbao 2 mo 24 d
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Batman
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Batman Batman has once dragged a WorldWar Plane before. https://imgur.com/a/sTh98Vm

He also can punch through bricks and can break down doors with his hands. Batman is easily the better fighter as well.

Batman is shown to stalemate Death stroke once here. https://imgur.com/a/vIjK3Jp and while Deathstroke is a better fighter than Captain without a doubt. This just shows that Batman is easily on top of Captain.

Here's my point though. Batman always needs his gadgets to win. So it'll come down to the methodical mind of Batman. Of how to win this fight. Captain is a good hero but he can't analyze Batman like he'll do to Cap. Batman is much much more smarter than Captain. He'll find out Captain's weakness before Captain finds out his. Batman's the world's greatest detective. Have we ever seen Captain be a detective like Batman? Nope Batman is better with analyzing. So he'll figure out what to use and then exploit it to beat Captain America.
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Jongensoden
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Batman Anyone want to debate?
Jongensoden
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Batman I will explain in short why i think Batman wins now first of all i agree Captain America is physically superior. But it does not matter since Batman has consistently beat charachters physically stronger then him, examples are Clayface Killer Croc Solomon Grundy now i agree those are not as skilled as Captain America however Batman has also beaten Bane and current Batman is shown as equal to Deathstroke who is bassicly a physically better Captain America. Here is 1 example of Batman stalemating Deathstroke Now second of all i think Batman can hold his own physically be should be comparable to Captain America he made a plane change direction with his legs. and he is a far superior athlete compared to olympians Crushes concrete with his grip while resisting the pull of a rocket. And he is able to beat a whole army
Now to the next part. I believe Batman is a way better tactician who uses tactics to beat most of his enemies. And he is a way better fighter as he knows every martial art on earth and even some kryptonian Superman teached him. He even created his own fighting style to counter people who can copy or use the same fighting style like him. He knows over 410 ways to take someone out without drawing blood and knows every pressure point and nerve strike. Now for the shield i believe Batman has superior gear and could disarm him. Not to forget Captain America is not durable enough to tank bullets
Now this is my opinion @Dhruv feel free to respond when you have time
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Dhruv
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Captain America Cap also faces physically superior opponents and comes out on top most of the times. He has one-shotted ten tonners like Thunderball and has bodied Nuke(who is bulletproof and durable enough to easily survive point blank explosions).
Deathstroke has won more times against Batman though.
Batman seemed to use not just his legs, but the force of his whole body to steer the plane with the help of Batrope. Cap was able to manually spin a jet’s wingflap to prevent it from flying.
Cap is able to dig his fingers into concrete just by climbing up a wall.
He can take out a bar full of armed Dalk Elves while being unarmed. All of them have superhuman strength.
Cap has been hailed as the world’s greatest tactician many times and the greatest tactician the Avengers have ever known.
About fighting skills, I need to know where you would place Batman among the best fighters in Marvel (like Shang Chi, Iron Fist, Daredevil, Wolverine, Taskmaster, Black Panther). A lot of Cap’s combat feats are related to the best fighters in Marvel so I first need to know your perspective. I would just state for now that he has mastered every form of combat on Earth, and this is from the 6th issue of the Avengers, I can confidently say he has like more than 150 to even 200 years if combat experience from then on. Spidey has said Cap has no moves, and he can fight in a way which even Taskmaster doesn’t know (who has been stated to know every fighting style on many occasions).
Cap has such a good control over his shield that it would come to him even if he whistles for it and can even make for the most microscopic imperfections. Disarming him is not easy, if it was then everyone would have tried to do that.
Sometimes, Cap is shown to suffer very less injuries from bullets, and also his chainmail is bulletproof at times. Regardless, yes he has himself accepted he isn’t bulletproof. But he is a casual bullet timer and that’s what his shield is for. He was trying to help the woman and she shot him unexpectedly. In fact, him not reacting to it can be argued as PIS, as he can react to bullets without even looking at them and can even react to Mjolnir which is casually MFTL+.
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Jakcj
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Batman That's funny. Why did crossbones kill Cap then?
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Captain America @Jakcj Crossbones was hired by Red Skull to Kill Captain America, I Think He might've had a Weapon capable of Killing People on Cap's Level, even then Cap did came back
Jakcj
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Batman He did come back but that was Bucky Barnes as Captain America.
BlotskyA
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Captain America I Think Steve Did Come Back, I'm not sure how
Dhruv
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Captain America Are you talking about Cap's death after Civil War in which Brock was involved?
Jongensoden
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Batman Ok @Dhruv im back. How Durable is thunderball? Since he did not beat him in a straight fight but just beat him with 1 punch. As for nuke that is impressive but here a Batman who is dying from a poison gas, but still manages to create a huge crack in bulletproof glass designed to take a bazooka That is false currently in rebirth they are equal and stalemate in most fights. The famous fight in post crisis was when Batman was trying to talk to him and did not want to fight. While the battle ultimately ends in a stalemate. If I had to give a decisive winner, it would go to bruce. Bruce completely overcame slade in this encounter, starting off with batarang from the beginning that did some chip damage while continuously dodging most if not seemingly all of Slade attacks beginning to middle while simultaneously dishing out damage.

In the end bruce was caught offgaurd through his endless talking which is undoubtedly his fault. Batman was also able to crush a gun with his grip. Altough i concede cap is stronger do you agree Batman can hold his own? Crushing concrete with your grip while resisting the pull of a rocket Is way more impressive tough then what you mentioned. Batman beat an army of white martians. I dont remember the comic but if i find it i will tell. I agree Captain America is one of Marvels greatest tacticians altough im not sure he is better then Batman. I would place Batman slightly below Black Panther. The reason i would say Batman is a better fighter then Cap is because he made his own fighting style used to counter people who know his fighting style. He also know 463 ways to take someone out without drawing blood. And knows every pressure point and nerve strike. He knows every martial art on earth and even some kryptonian he learned from Superman. Not only that but he has hoven good fights to the best martial artists in DC. I agree disarming him wont be easy. But i think Beast disarmed him before. I see and yeah i agree cap can dodge bullets. Cap has lost to charachters weaker then Batman tough. Here he lost to crossbones I also think Batman has more willpower then cap Hal states that Batman’s will is something a Green Lantern would envy
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Jongensoden
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Batman @Dhruv you can reply.
Dhruv
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Captain America Thunderball is durable enough to take and survive hits from Iron Fist, Hulk and Thor. I agree it was kind of an unfair battle since Cap caught Thunderball off guard but it was just to show how powerful his punches can be.
Cap can take out a Riotbot designed to withstand a whole regiment easily and can even put his hand straight through a robot (not even a punch, just straight up puts his hand through a robot like it's nothing).
Fair point that they are equal in Rebirth, although Deathstroke tends to win if you take his other fights. Even though he was fighting like an amateur and was slower and weaker (he also says he could take him out with three moves if he was his usual self), he still overpowers him and was about to win till Harley interfered and still kept going.
Tbh the Rebirth fight was in the Batcave and Batman had help from bats so there's that.
Cap also snapped a gun.
Yes Batman should be able to hold his own. They have enough feats to show that both are superhuman and are peak human only by statements.
I agree that resisting the pull of a rocket is more impressive but if you just compare the concrete crushing aspect of it, Cap's feat was more impressive. The rocket was pulling Batman so he gripped on concrete and the pull of the rocket allowed him to crush the concrete. Cap did it on his own without any external agent. Batman's feat is overall more impressive but I was only talking about the concrete crushing part of it.
You said in messages that Batman is likely below Shang Chi, BP and maybe Iron Fist in combat. Let's see how good of a fighter Cap is compared to these three.
He is an OVERALL better fighter than Shang Chi.
Acknowledges Iron Fist as a good martial artist but he is just not good enough for Cap.
Counters every move of BP and can instinctively adapt to every situation and fighting style despite Cap's heart not being in combat as confirmed by BP.
Kang considers him to be the finest warrior of the age.
Wolverine, who has mastered every fighting style on Earth, considers Cap to be a better fighter than Shang Chi, Hawkeye and Iron Fist. (Look how he says "includin' the likes a' Shang Chi, Hawkeye, Iron Fist and even Captain America himself". Its clear from how he says "even Captain America himself" that he considers Cap to be the best fighter.)
And guess what Cap trained Hawkeye who was mentioned by Wolverine earlier in my last scan along with some of the best fighters like Shang Chi, Iron Fist and Cap.
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Dhruv
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Captain America Had to break into 2 comments because it is too long to be posted as a single one.
I don't know about Beast disarming Cap (Btw here is Cap negging Beast, a 10 tonner easily).
I don't think you have seen the whole Crossbones vs Captain America fight. Cap was getting distracted by flashbacks of Bucky and Zemo, even admitting that he was not able to focus because of that and was never going to win the fight.
Even without the SS serum, Cap was able to defeat Crossbones and defeated Crossbones in just 3 punches after getting his powers back.
Willpower is tough to decide tbh. Cap does have the strongest willpower on Earth (which means he has more willpower than Doom and Thing). Even Galactus was impressed when Cap did not fall for the ultimate nullifier's power while every single one of those who attempted to wield it had failed and even broke free from an illusion from the cosmic cube itself and destroyed the Forever crystal for good despite the fact that he wanted to change the past personal tragedies in his life with it. Doom, even after getting the Beyonder's powers feared Cap might beat him because people like Cap always find a way in the end.
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Morbs
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Batman Captain America is def stronger but I think Batman would be too smart for him, Cap is a war veteran but Batman know every martial art on the planet and if he had time to get stronger for any reason I.e. venom then forget about it
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Batman I cant even imagine what batman would be able to do with serum runni6theu his veins and body.
.even what bane takes, venom..or black panther..
Cap10Kirk
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Captain America Captain America will kick Butt!!!
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Jongensoden
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Batman Opposite
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Batman @ Jongensoden totally agreed...I think bane is more powerful and more experienced of a fighter and batman took him down..but batman did get his back broken but he persevered
Poe
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Batman I would say Cap is stronger
But then Bats is smarter
Also Bats is faster
I don’t know who is more durable but Cap has his shield to take attacks so I will give this to him
Batman is the better tactician/fighter so I would ultimately give it to bats after a long fight, bats 6/10
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MoNsTeR
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Neutral Very debatable batman is not faster than cap
Poe
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Batman I guess I don’t know much about caps speed
MoNsTeR
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Neutral He is able to move fast enough to block missiles at point blank range, even when they flew past him. The slowest speed rate of a missile is mach 0.32 (246 mph).

He once moved faster than bullets (speed of sound) from a revolver.

And cap casually runs over 60mph
Jongensoden
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Batman Batman can see bullets in Slow motion
Poe
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Batman Based off of how much I know about Batman there equal in speed
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Hitchiker 1 mo 25 d
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Captain America Bruce Wayne is definitely NOT faster. If he was Batman would have to be super human. Steve Rodgers is as fast, strong, agile, durable, with the most endurance a human being at the peak of evolution can be anything greater would be super human that’s what the serum does regardless of body type. In fact to have all those characteristics in one body type in reality would make one superhuman. Cap is theoretically enhanced.
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Captain America If it asked who us more interesting, I'd put Batman. But it asks who the superior hand to hand combatant is, and that's Cap. Give Batman that serum and Vitaray treatment: then I'll change my mind.
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Batman Uhh Batman is better than hand to hand combat. Batman studied over hundreds of martial arts. Traveling around the world to learn. He knows how to predict attacks and he can adapt to their fighting style. Batman also is a genius and more smarter than Captain without a doubt. I strongly disagree that Captain shouldn't have 85 intelligence because he shouldn't be extremely gifted. If he was that gifted he should have created a suit like Iron man then by himself, also he should have created the vibranium shield to have that type of intellectual ability.

Batman has also faced up an opponent like Captain America before. He's taken blows from Darkseid before. Also he one-handly picked up solomon grundy with one hand who weighs above 500 pounds. He's also ran so fast that he could catch up to a car. The most important thing that Batman has in this fight is his gadgets. The gadgets are the most super unpredictability Batman has.
NorrinRadd
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Batman Peak human is essentially super human in comics as they accomplish feats that no human could actually do. They’re both on the same level. The serum is a plot device.
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Tyrannus
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Captain America Bro you didn't need to send several new comments practically saying the same thing. You should have just sent them as replies to your own comments instead of just making this page longer than it needs to be.
Also you thinking here is flawed. Your trying to bring CA down to Batman's level when that's not the case. They both train as hard as they're body can take but CA was given the SSS which made him above and beyond what was humanly possible. Your imagining the SSS as just a normal steroid when its not.
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Batman “NOT super-human - - but he has become a nearly PERFECT human being”

https://i.stack.imgur.com/XisQ0.jpg
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Batman “Limit of human capacity”


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-4e914ca08ec279961f44bd24d80f4ec2
NorrinRadd
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Batman The one with armor takes it
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Captain America Then CA wins. His shield's unbreakable and can go through Batman like butter
Jongensoden
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Batman So much misinformation on both sides
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Captain America Like?
klifyy
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Batman batman wins and its not even close
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Captain America Then that's quite biased
ThorMathews
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Neutral Changed my vote. Physically cap has every advantage, but bats is a slightly better fighter and has more gadgets. Could go either way.
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Tyrannus
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Captain America The gadgets thing is a cop out. That can be used to say he has literally anything.
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Neutral Changed my vote because of Batman: Zeropoint Comic which is canon.
Cap will try and get up from the fight but Batman oofs him in time
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Jongensoden
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Batman @Supersomebody do you have discord?
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Neutral @Jongensoden I wish I had Discord
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Batman Oh ok because there is a private Batman server runned by some of my friends wich has many Batman feats and information
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Batman Batman is the smarter and a better planer he would win easily
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Captain America Ca's mind works faster and better
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Batman easy victory for batman
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Captain America Super soldier, vs human peak. Cap is gonna take this one.
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Batman you forget skill and intelligence and gadgets
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Batman Super soldier IS peak human
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Captain America CA is enhanced, he's more than peak
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Batman Batman his training routine is said to be so hard it would kill a normal human
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Batman He was enhanced from scrawny to peak
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Captain America @NorrinRadd Your describing steroids. Steve took the SSS
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Batman For those who thinks Batman is much weaker than Captain America. Keep in mind he can do this.
https://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111117006/5754013-batbazooka6.jpg
I personally think the fight could go either way, but since I like Batman more, I'll vote him.
CODsucks
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Batman batman wins, you can't change my mind
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Captain America Then your clearly biased
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Batman One shot from the batmobile kills the cap
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Neutral @ArdaX000991 he only brings the Batmobile in Prep Time. And Cap can survive it.
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Batman @SuperSomebody Okay. Then Batman can use a boombatarang. Cap can't escape forever
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Batman You are just a Captain America fanboy. No offence Captain America is mere peak human. Batman has defeated Deathstroke many times who is a Superhuman. Batman has been listed as meta by ARGUS so keep quiet MarvelTard. Batman defeated Cap in a crossover. Batman has mastered 127 forms of martial arts. Bullets appear in slow-motion to Batman. No way captain America can take the win
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Neutral First of all @Mutal1
Batman defeated Cap in a crossover
2. When do bullets appear in slow motion to Batman?
3. Do you even know anything about Captain America?
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Batman Moreover every year Government send most advanced and most trained person to Gotham to capture Batman and every they fail to defeat Batman
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Batman @Supersomebody bullets appear in slow motion to Batman because he has trained so much and can avoid them easily. See on Quora why Batman will win
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Batman batman fights bane Solomon Grundy and other power houses on the daily why dose everyone think batman cant keep up not to mention he has fought deathstroke who is also superhuman and has skill
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Batman batman catchs his batarangs why couldnt he catch the sheild not to mention he fights death stroke who is also a super solder and has alot more skill and wins and bane is stronger than cap and batman takes down bane on the daily
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Captain America The cap at least can move the head whit his shield of certain high tiers. And already beat Spider-Man 3 times and another street tiers like Daredevil whit ease.
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Batman Spider-Man with no morals would wreck Cap
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Captain America Captain America is too physically imposing for Batman
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Batman what is it about pysicaly imposing you must not know batman because he has fought people as strong if not stronger than cap and won e.g. bane deathstroke Solomon Grundy and won
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Batman Cap isn't a better fighter in any way, batman has way more experience and tech than cap does. All cap did was get a serum and be stuck in ice for 70 years just like bane injects himself with serum
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Neutral Cap is stronger, faster, tougher and has the vibranium shield. Batman is smarter and is almost the better combatant.
Experience is equaled I believe.
Cap just throws the Shield at batman and that's it. Completely knocked out. No prep so he can't grapple in time before cap's shield gets to bat's head. He does not have the armored batman suit in this, this is a random encounter.
Cap is also more thiccer o7
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Batman Batman survived worse
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Captain America Has Batman survived this?
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Batman Who says Cap would throw it that hard the first time he sees Batman? Why does he not do that to charachters like Redskull? And why cant Batman dodge it or neutralize it? and while that would hurt Batman it would not knock him down
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Captain America Because CA doesn't like to kill unless necessary. However if it would help him win this battle he'll do it. If Batman tried to catch it, it'll go through his whole body.
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Batman Wich means its out of charachter to throw his shield that hard in the start (ps can you @t me next time you reply so i get a notification) I dont think the shield can go trough his body because of his suit protecting him.
And even then he could try dodging or neutralizing it. How fast does his shield go?
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Captain America @Jongensoden Story wise it would be out of character. But in a hypothetical battle where he's told he needs to win by whatever means he wants, he'll just go for the easy kill.
Batman's suit shouldn't be denser than an entire tank.
He was able to throw his shield at a missile that had already taken off and shatter it.

This again demonstrates his speed, precision and strength.
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Batman Batman possesses remarkable fighting skill though.
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Captain America Cap is a batter fighter
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Batman Cap isn't a better fighter in any way, batman has way more experience and tech than cap does. All cap did was get a serum and be stuck in ice for 70 years just like bane injects himself with serum
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Batman @Savage batman knows every martial art in the world has tech and also he is a better fight in two marvel vs dc comics out of two batman has faced cap and won
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Batman Batman his training routine is said to be so hard it would kill a normal human
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Batman How is Cap the better combatant when Batman has mastered every martial art on Earth and Cap knows most of them? Does Cap really have more experience or even that much more if he was frozen for 75 years?
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Neutral Cap is stronger, faster, tougher and has the vibranium shield. Batman is smarter and is almost the better combatant.
Experience is equaled I believe.
Cap just throws the Shield at batman and that's it. Completely knocked out. No prep so he can't grapple in time before cap's shield gets to bat's head. He does not have the armored batman suit in this, this is a random encounter.
Cap is also more thiccer o7
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Batman Batman always wears armor. Are you talking about the suit he used to fight Superman? You think he can’t dodge the shield? You think it would knock him out when he’s taken far worse damage? You believe wrong...Cap was frozen for 75 years, how is his experience equal? You don’t know enough to debate.
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Captain America That armours not going to save him. CA's destroyed much more that that.
Being frozen doesn't automatically make him inferior. CA's been around for longer so he knows the old ways and the new. He's trained with the best and beaten them all. BP's the only one who he can't consistently beat.
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Captain America This is the most messed up battle on this site voting wise.
Cap honestly stomps, what advantage does batman even have?
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Batman Batman is more intelligent. He's a better tactician. He has more gear than Captain. He's more stealthy than Cap. He's way more experienced in fights because Cap fell asleep for a vast amount of years. Batman also has way more better tech than Captain. He's more rich than Cap. There's alot of advantages Batman tops over him.
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Captain America Cap is a better fighter, and he's stronger, faster, has better senses, has the shield, he wins easily.
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Batman Batman is easily the better fighter, that’s not even a question. He’s mastered every fighting style ever created in the modern world and has trained under some of the best fighters in the universe, such as Richard Dragon. Batman is a tactical genius and an expert at reducing how to beat his opponents, and plus his utility belt is full of gadgets that would help him win. Batman has beaten physically superior characters all the time. It’s his intellect that wins a lot of his fights.
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Captain America Cap is the better fighter. He has more experience, and he's also claimed to know every martial art on the planet. Plus he mimics fighting styles quicker than others.
Cap is also way stronger
He's also way faster.
Batman's only advantage is intelligence, and in terms of battle strategy, I would give cap the advantage anyways.
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Batman Experience isn’t as important as knowledge. Knowing is a lot different than mastering.
I agree
I agree
Batman is the superior fighter, way more intelligent and quick witted, and also his gadgets give him much more versatility.
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Captain America Cap has mastered many, many martal arts styles, and can go toe to toe with even the likes of Shang-Chi, Iron Fist, and Wolverine.
He's barely smarter in a sense of quick-wit combat decisions, so it's his gadgets against a superhuman with an indestructible shield who's a better fighter than him.
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Batman Ok, but none of that proves he’s better than Batman.
Again, you’d have to be smoking to think Cap is the superior fighter. Batman could take him out with pressure points or use one of his many lethal gadgets. There’s also the fact that Batman could easily use his stealth to win. He had snuck around Superman without him knowing. If he can sneak around Superman’s hearing, it would be a cakewalk against Cap.
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Captain America Captain America has used pressure point combat to take down the hulk, and characters with unbreakable skin. Cap has enhanced senses, it seems very doubtful that he could sneak up on cap, and that wouldn't really be a factor anyways, that would be a scenario where cap doesn't know they're fighting but batman does.
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Batman @Savage , Just keep in mind that Batman has beaten characters who are on par with those you mentioned such as Shang Chi, Iron Fist, and Wolverine. Deathstroke, Lady Shiva, Bane, Croc, Catwoman, Raz' al Ghul... And as far as Cap being stronger, that is actually debatable in part. Cap was pushed to the pinnacle of human capability at resting state via the serum. At max he is extremely powerful yes. Batman has worked himself to be the pinnacle of human physique at all times. Cap doesn't have as large an advantage as you assume since they overlap in part, though he still has one I admit. The shield is a dumb excuse. Batman could work around that easily. As far as martial skill, Batman wins that. He was trained by the Demon's Head. He consistently goes up against trained martial artists and fighters. While Cap may have close to the same experience, he would rely more upon his greater physical capability in those fights than his actual fighting skill. Not to say Cap isn't really good at martial arts, but Batman has been long established as the best martial combatant in the DC universe. My greatest argument for Batman is similar to this. Could Cap beat Deadpool? Batman has beaten Deathstroke before on his own. If you think Cap can beat Deadpool then perhaps the argument could be made that Cap could still win, but then it would still be debatable on both sides. Not saying your wrong, but just keep these in mind.
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Captain America @Adriel110 Wolverine is above all the characters you mentioned. The Strength part is not debatable.

Captain America learns fighting styles as he see's them, and even figures out how to beat taskmaster. He's also more experienced.
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Batman @Savage batman knows more than he shows he uses three martial arts at a time so not to be predicteble batman said it him shelf also batman has tripped flash so he will probably have faster reaction times he also has more gadgets that he can use such as explosive batarangs
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Captain America @doomsday Cap uses so many martial arts at a time spider-man says "he has no moves". Cap also learns fighting styles much faster.
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Captain America People talk of Batman having more experience or knowledge but Wolverine has more than both combined and CA's still been able to outmanoeuvre Logan almost every time. And Logan's much quicker than Batman.
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Batman @savage Strength is close Batman has lifted solomon grundy with 1 arm and he weighs 900 pounds
And you are acting like Batman does not consistently fight charachters stronger then him and win.
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Captain America He fights stronger opponents but he rarely beats them by overpowering them. When Killer Croc rushes him for example Batman moves out the way rather than catch his force and push against it.
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Batman Well he beats them by skill inteligence and his gadgets. I agree this is a problem when fighting against cap because he is not as dumb as charachters like Killer Croc or Solomon Grundy and more skilled. But Batman fought against charachters like bane and others who are not only stronger but also as skilled and smarter
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Captain America A lot of that skill and knowledge comes from prep. Bane is a better comparison but even again him, Batman's only ever beaten him once in a a straight up fair fight and that was because Batman simply had the better will to win. Against CA that won't help
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Neutral with 0 prep time i think captain wins but even with 2 mins prep time batman wins so i am going neutral
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Batman Batman Ez clapz
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Neutral Cap is stronger, faster, tougher and has the vibranium shield. Batman is smarter and is almost the better combatant.
Experience is equaled I believe.
Cap just throws the Shield at batman and that's it. Completely knocked out. No prep so he can't grapple in time before cap's shield gets to bat's head. He does not have the armored batman suit in this, this is a random encounter.
Cap is also more thiccer o7
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Batman Batman has so many ways to win this. Batman could call in his hellbat suit literally anytime he wants.
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Captain America This is base Batman. There's a separate profile for Helbat. And having to call that for help means he's cheating.
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Batman I guess. But a part of batmans whole vibe is because of his resources. So he isnt really able to use everything thats at his disposal if he cant call in a suit. If it was an all out fight to the death, I dont see why he wouldnt call that in if he needed it because thats one of his advantages. Tony does it all the time. But I do see what youre saying, with it being just base forms.
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Captain America there is no prep time it just base bruh
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Batman Batman still wins.
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Neutral Cap is stronger, faster, tougher and has the vibranium shield. Batman is smarter and is almost the better combatant.
Experience is equaled I believe.
Cap just throws the Shield at batman and that's it. Completely knocked out. No prep so he can't grapple in time before cap's shield gets to bat's head. He does not have the armored batman suit in this, this is a random encounter.
Cap is also more thiccer o7
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Batman @SuperSomebody What does prep have anything to do with batman not being able to dodge caps shield? Why are you acting like Batman is an average street fighting thug? You think he couldnt just catch the shield, but a rocket on in and send it into the atmosphere? Batman has fought and beaten Bane, which is more powerful than Cap on every level except speed.
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Neutral There is no prep and absolutely no knowledge of each other. If this was made a movie, he would probaly dodge it but NOT catch it. only someone with a arm of metal like Bucky Barnes or probaly Luke Cage can. Batman's suit is made of rubber, someone who has a lot of knowledge in DC told me. He can't catch it. He won't expect the shield coming toward him. He could dodge it but Bane does not suprass Cap in anyway, Speed, determination and Cap is more thicc than Bane. o7 Batman defeated Bane because he already knew him. He has fought Bane before, he has not fought Cap before. He did fight him in a crossover but crossovers are non-canon. So they do not know each other. Cap was holding back in Civil War and could have destroyed Iron Man. And Tony had Extremis at the time. And let's be honest, Iron Man would crush Batman. A fair fight for batman would be Star-Lord level because Batman can defeat him.
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Batman @SuperSomebody Why wouldn't there be prep? Either way, Batman would win with or without it. The strength level gap between cap and batman are not even that far apart. Bane is definitely stronger, smarter, and more durable than cap. Batman also has his gadgets in this fight. He could easily smoke bomb cap and sneak around him. If you're talking about movies, these are not movie versions. Iron man would destroy cap in a 1v1. Batman has fought people that are stronger, smarter, faster, more durable, and better combatants than Captain. An example is Deathstroke.
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Batman I think it's close but Batman has to many gadgets
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Neutral Cap is stronger, faster, tougher and has the vibranium shield. Batman is smarter and is almost the better combatant.
Experience is equaled I believe.
Cap just throws the Shield at batman and that's it. Completely knocked out. No prep so he can't grapple in time before cap's shield gets to bat's head. He does not have the armored batman suit in this, this is a random encounter.
Cap is also more thiccer o7
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Batman @SuperSomebody but batman has tripped flash before so do you think caps shield is going to be hard for batman to dodge if not catch
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Captain America This is one of the closest fights in comicdom but I think that Cap is a marginally better combatant, and is physically superior. That should be more of an advantage over Batman's gadgets and intellect.
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Captain America Why don't you vote?
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Batman Some of you seem surprised that Batman is beating Captain by such a large margin. Let me explain. While Cap is an amazing combatant, Batman definitely knows more combat and tactical technique. Batman has more personal resources than Captain. However Captain without pushing himself is at the peak of human physique, while Batman is their when he pushes himself. The real reason we can know that Batman would win, is that he has already beaten adversaries with similar but stronger abilities, notably DeathStroke.
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Neutral It's true but he has beaten those adversaries with prep. There is no prep.
Cap is stronger, faster, tougher and has the vibranium shield. Batman is smarter and is almost the better combatant.
Experience is equaled I believe.
Cap just throws the Shield at batman and that's it. Completely knocked out. No prep so he can't grapple in time before cap's shield gets to bat's head. He does not have the armored batman suit in this, this is a random encounter.
Cap is also more thiccer o7
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Batman Actually he did not beat them all with prep. He has beaten them without prep and without his gadgets. And as far as the shield goes, if Cap lets go of it for a moment, he won't be getting it back. And if you say Cap just throws his shield, that is actually a laugh. Batman can dodge Darkseid's omega beams. The shield would be no problem. He would probably catch it.
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Captain America Deathstroke is actually a very good example because Batman always struggles against him. Even with prep, DS gave Batman and extremely hard fight. CA's definitely going to beat him there.
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Captain America honestly, what the hell, this isn't that close
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Batman to say this isnt close is underestimating batman massively he has tripped flash fought deathstroke without prep solomon grundy bane and had even beat super woman a version of wonder woman without prep time he is good at thinking on the spot he has knock out gas on him normaly and a tube which behaves like a gas mask
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Captain America @doomsday I've been seeing several Batman voters say this is a stomp for Batman. What does that tell you?
He's fought Deathstroke without prep, and lost every time. Even when he had prep, DS still gave him a very hard fight.
Your mentioning people he fought but didn't beat. In that case, CA fought Thanos. Does he win?
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Batman Batman has gadgets and fighting skills, cap just has super strength and a shiny dinner plate.
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Captain America Well the shiny dinner plate is unbreakable
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Batman @Epic1 except that it’s been broken many times in the comics
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Neutral @NorrinRadd it was broken by planet busters and Avenger level threats. Batman is none of those things without prep.
Cap is stronger, faster, tougher and has the vibranium shield. Batman is smarter and is almost the better combatant.
Experience is equaled I believe.
Cap just throws the Shield at batman and that's it. Completely knocked out. No prep so he can't grapple in time before cap's shield gets to bat's head. He does not have the armored batman suit in this, this is a random encounter.
Cap is also more thiccer o7
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Captain America @NorrinRadd It took extreme magic and nigh omnipotent users to break it. Batman is neither.
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Captain America How is batman winning captain america has more speed power and physcial strength and an ubreakable shield how the hell is batman winning when he lost to bane
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Batman Batman has faced a more dangerous threat than Captain.
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Captain America CA faced off against Thanos with the IG. Batman's not topping that.
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Batman @Tyrannus Batman faced off against Darkseid
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Captain America That still doesn't compare to Thanos with the IG
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Captain America batman did not face darkseid he faced him with a suit my boi cap went with his shield and still fought thanos with the ig
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Neutral With PREP he has fought Darkseid. THERE IS NO PREP in this!
Look carefully at the fight there is no prep.
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Neutral @bahamut Batman faced Darkseid with Prep
Cap faced Thanos with IG with no prep.
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Captain America Super Solider.
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Captain America "127 martial arts" is a cheap plot armor device. I've mastered 4 myself, and Batman doesn't use anything of the sort, he is a brawler in armor.
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Batman So Cap is a brawler without armor
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Captain America Like 11 herbs and spices was marketing for KFC!
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Captain America People, look at the power stats before voting. Although Batman has the knowledge of many martial arts, in a first impressions battle he would lose. But, if he had time to understand his opponent, there is a big chance he would win.
I'm a bat fan, but statistics don't lie bitch. It all depends on the point of view.
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not voted check out my battles
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Batman I feel like there's a solid no-doubt here. It's probably Batman. Knowing mastery in 127 martial arts (pretty much every art), stealth, has a general arsenal under his belt, and has a 8th level intellect? C'mon, Batman would win solid, say, 95% of these matches, if not 99%. Batman is brawn as WELL as the brain. Batman, even without preparation and his usual gadgets, is solid without a doubt for me, an easy win over Cap.
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Batman Agreed mdonr forget Batman took on bane and it was a ruff fight.mhe lost one and also came back to beat him even with a broken back..bane has a powerful serum in him as well. .bane is also an experienced Martial arts as well better than captain America..in real life this would be like Bruce Lee fighting someone on steroids..Bruce Lee would kill him...
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Captain America That skill gap isn't as large as you'd think, stealth isn't going to help in a random encounter and their fighting not taking an exam. Intelligence won't help. What does matter is strength, speed and durability. All things that go to CA.
Bane tends to have the upper hand on Batman in their fights and actually has a few good wins.
@Drmanhattan42 Bane's skills really don't compare to CA. Also comparing CA to just a normal just on steroids is nothing like CA at all.
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Batman Even if all matters, Batman has more leverage in combat skill anyways. Having learnt practically every martial art on Earth, he has beaten the world's skilled fighters, such as Bane, Ra's al Ghul, and even the Batman who Laughs. In an endless war against demons, alongside Wonder Woman, they have been fighting for 37 years. With his intelligence, he analyzes his opponent's martial arts, behavior, and weaknesses to counter in every way possible.

He also is in peak human condition, and his attributes exceeds that of an Olympic athlete; and was strong enough to break a motorcycle with a single kick, pierce an android's skull by throwing a coin, and has endured the gravity of Kandor, which is 5x the gravity of Earth. In speed terms, his punches, kicks, are just blurs in combat; and was able to land a few blows on Amazo and Reverse Flash.

Not to mention, he also has an arsenal of gadgets, equipment, suits, and vehicles, having a lot of material to work around.
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Captain America Strength, speed and durability do matter very much so. It almost negates the skill gap because even if Batman can get a few hits in, CA can take it and deal it back much faster and harder.
He was actually losing to TBWL until Joker saved him.
CA's stamina has been boosted beyond that and so has his mind making him plan much faster than Batman can.
Long story short, anything Batman can do, CA can do better.
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Batman No, more like 55-60%
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Batman Actually Batman has mastered every martial art, 127 of which are deadly
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Batman Batman has multi-billion dollar tech and cap has a shield.
Winner goes to the guy with a space satellite
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Captain America Superman used to work on a reporter's salary but he stomps Batman. Money doesn't mean you win
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Batman True but if they are both human then it makes a difference.
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Captain America I still wouldn't say so. Robin also has the backing of Wayne Industries but he's never going to beat Wolverine.
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Batman Wolverine is a mutant with extreme regenerative capabilities. I mean technically he is human however he has powers.
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Batman Also Robin is just a kid
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Captain America But the point stands that money doesn't help. CA is just all round better than Batman here. And that shield that everyone underrates can go through a tank.
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Batman Changed my mind, Batman outsmarts and has way better arsenal at his disposal.
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Captain America That's usually through prep. In a random encounter he loses
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Batman Batman doesn't actually need prep time to know how to use all his gadgets plus he analyzes his opponent better than Cap does.
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Captain America The prep isn't on how to use his own gadgets, its spent studying his enemies. CA's mind is much better than Batman because of the serum.
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Batman The thing is Batman always has a way to finish off opponents who are theoretically superior to him physically, such as Deathstroke, Bane, etc...
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Captain America Not in random encounters. In his latest fight with DS he really had to plan his attack and had help. Despite all that he barely won and told Barbara that may not happen again.
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Batman Because he's Batman
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Captain America Without prep time, Batman doesn't have the strength.
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Batman So its captain america(without mjlioner)vs batman.
Cap is stronger and has faster reflexs and is faster also has the worlds strongest sheild.
But batman is close to caps as a physical match however caps a bit better but batman does have very good gadets and could stick and explsive in caps shelid or do something very smart he is on the level of tony at iq so he could think of something smart. However if it was cap with hammer cap stomps.
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Captain America Captain America has a much a higher chance to win Batman is maybe very intelligent but has a very low chance to win
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Captain America Captain America has ACTUAL powers; he has enhanced super strength and speed and basically all senses, trains just as much as Batman but with the advantage of being able to lift a car anyway. Batman is smarter though, and with time for preparation he’d probably win, like shown in Batman vs Superman, even though his suit in that stood no match to Superman it is still extremely strong.
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Captain America Who would win a extremely strong guy with a shield made out of the strongest metal in the world and a hammer that can summon lightning and can only be held by him and people who are worthy( Batman’s not) or a guy who with a cape and some homemade inventions
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Captain America cap is easily stronger than batman, but if batman has time to think it out bat wins
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Captain America If it’s just a random encounter that breaks into a fight, Cap wins by a landslide. Batman is a fit guy obviously. Captain America is a legitimate superhero that trains essentially just as hard as Batman but in addition has significantly greater strength and reflexes. He’s Batman times three. Cap is gonna break the bat the same way Bane has. Sure, Bane has more strength than Captain America generally but Cap beats HIM out in every other physical aspect. Cap could assess any attack coming from Batman and adapt quickly enough to instantaneously change his strategy and best Batman. Not to mention Cap’s shield. One good trick shot or direct hit in any way to Bruce’s head and you’ve got a severely concussed Batman at minimum. Just because vibranium might not pierce Batman’s cowl that’s still a hell of a lot of force and basic physics says that that hit is gonna be severe. Batman isn’t made like Colossus. Cap wins.
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Batman i choose captain America by wrong and i want to update my vote and it sayes " Oops, couldn't update your vote."
why?
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Captain America @Speedster_Shahm Click on captain america again to disable your vote. Then it will show that you didn't vote for this battle and then you can vote for batman. So first click on cap's vote to disable it and then vote for batman.
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Batman it worked thnx
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Captain America No problem. Glad to help.
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Captain America Don't know why it's like this as it certainly wasn't before.
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Captain America I Vote Cap just to even up the votes
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Batman Captain america cant beat Batman, Batman can near the combat level of cap but with gadgets and abitities Batman walks over cap without doubt.
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Captain America Gadgets aren't the answer to everything
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Batman Bruce wins no problem cap may have good combat but Bruce has better and that is all he needs.
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Captain America Bruce wins because he "has better"?
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Batman This is base versions
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not voted I'm gonna have to say Bruce on this one. Bruce is very intelligent and I think he'd stop for a second and think out each and every move he does, even in a random encounter. Bruce would probably win, I'd say, 76% of the time.
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Batman Here's my take on the fight (updated)
Batman fights his physical superiors all the time and still comes out on top.
If he can sneak around Superman's super hearing he could absolutely ambush or get the drop on Cap.

Batman knows how to use his environment to his advantage and is also more intelligent. Cap doesn't have many weapons of his own while Batman has a whole belt full of them, which could turn the tide such as electric gloves, explosive batarangs, and smoke bombs. Cap has his shield, but not something like an adamantium sword that could cut through Batman's armor.
These two characters both have some of the strongest will around, so this is no easy fight. Cap is Batman's physical superior no question, but Batman has the brains, superior h2h and weapon-based combat training, and gadgets that would give him the win.
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Batman Exactly how i see it
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Captain America @Mr_Incognito This is going to be a random encounter however and many people don't realise how extraordinarily fast CA's mind works. He can take 1 glace at his surroundings at analyse potential ways he'd be attacked. CA has taken explosions like that before and gotten over them.
@jong You've always argued against CA being Batman's physical superior.
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Batman @Jon You have been very adamant about Batman being on the same level as Cap physically. That isn't true. I'm glad you agree with me now, but I'm a little skeptical that you see it exactly how I do.
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Captain America I will admit if things played out like @Mr_Incognito said then CA could lose but the circumstances have to play out exactly in his favour for that to work and more often than not it won't. Also most of the physically superior beings Batman's fought aren't anything like CA.
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Batman Why did i get no notification? I currently think Cap is stronger but he is not 100 times stronger it's close
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Batman @Jongensoden Because the original comment isn't yours, and the mention didn't have your full name.
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Batman @Mr_Incognito Your explanation is by far the best I've noticed today.
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Captain America We've never said he's 100x stronger. He's not Iron Man
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Captain America My bad. I think Captain America wins. He is strength, tough and agility.
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Batman So is batman
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Captain America I know Batman have master martial artist. And Deathstroke (Slade Wilson) is stronger and master martial artist. I saw Deathstroke versus Green Arrow or Batman.
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Batman Batman has beaten deathstroke before
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Captain America I did change vote. People most vote to Batman. Good Games. @jongensoden
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Captain America Cap is stronger, faster, more durable, more agile, and equally as good of a fighter.
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Batman The Psychically advantages are slight Batman his gear combat and intelligence is to much
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Captain America They are not slight. If you look at the feats, Cap takes the stat trio and it isn't even that close. Combat is basically equal. Tactical intelligence is definitely on the same tier. All Batman really has is gear and that's not enough to win.
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Batman So far nobody showed something far above batman
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Captain America @jong Actually @Akhil and I have shown you repeatedly but you keep pretending we haven't.
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Batman Most of the stuff was not far above or got debunked
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Captain America No it wasn't you just ignore it and repeat the same old stuff again and again. In the end we were able to change your mind though
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Batman When did you change my mind
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Captain America You denied CA being stronger and changed your vote to CA temporarily
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Batman Batman can use flashbangs or smoke bombs to distract Cap disarm him and beat him h2h
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Captain America CA would recover faster than Batman would realise leading to CA catching him and KO.
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Captain America What if he can't recover before Bruce gets close?
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Captain America He can take a few hits given his physiology and punch back breaking Batman's ribs
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Batman He is not breaking his ribs Batman survived worse and came out without broken ribs
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Captain America CA has punched through stronger materials than his ribs. I didn't say it'd kill him though. Average humans in real life can survive that
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Batman And Batman survived hits from People who can destroy buildings
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Captain America I just said breaking ribs doesn't kill you
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Captain America With prep time batman
Without prep time batman
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Neutral This fight would be way closer than the votes show
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Batman The votes are already close tough
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Captain America Yes but they're skewed in the wrong direction.
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Captain America Let's be honest, with prep, Batman all the way, but without prep, Cap is superior and will come out on top
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Neutral Agreed
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Neutral Bats can take down anybody who is street level with prep
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Batman Batman is a way better fighter and has to much gadgets
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Captain America Batman can take out most heroes with prep
@jong They won't matter if he's physically outclassed
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Batman He has beaten his psychical superior before and People stronger then Cap current Batman is above deathstroke
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Captain America He hasn't consistantly beaten anyone who outclasses him physically.
He's still not above DS. He admitted he was distracted otherwise he wouldn't have lost.
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Batman Rebirth Batman either stalemated deathstroke or beated him in every fight they had
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Captain America There's usually context as to why DS would lose.
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Batman I Can send you all the scans on discord because they are alot
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Captain America If it's easier for you then yeah, send them my way.
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Neutral Cap is physically superior in every way
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Batman They are Psychically comparable with Batman being a better fighter and having more gear
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Batman Well, they're both peak human so...
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Neutral Batman is a slightly better fighter. Cap is beyond peak human, he has no fatigue toxin build up he can fight way longer than Batman. He can run 60 mph which is far beyond peak human lol.
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Batman Uh batman Sees bullets in slow motion has Fought for 3 days peak human limit is higher in comics
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Captain America And if Batman can do that CA can definitely do that and then some. CA is now more than peak human
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Batman Im aware captain America can do that but that's not how it works because batman can do it don't mean captain America can so is batman who is now equal to deathstroke because of dionesium
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Captain America You said CA can do that but then it doesn't mean he can.
Dionesium isn't canon.
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Batman I said he can but your logic was wrong dionesium is canon its mentioned multiple times in rebirth
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Captain America How is my logic wrong? I was talking about how you contradicted yourself.
The dionesium hasn't really shown to have changed him physically all that much.
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Batman Dionesium actually changed him for example made him closer to deathstroke
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Captain America He is improved now but from what I've seen still in the comics he's not quite on the same level yet physically. The difference hasn't been all that noticeable.
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Batman Numbers don't lie
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Captain America What numbers? You mean the feats CA's surpassed Batman in?
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Batman No, the literal numbers...the votes
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Captain America Numbers aren't literal here and if you want to look at it that way then Iron Fist stomps Batman considering he has a much stronger lead over Batman in their votes.
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Batman Yeah, I agree...Iron Fist probably does beat Batman (unless Bruce is using one of his more powerful armors, which he would also curb-stomp Cap with)
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Captain America What? But CA beat IF. So if CA>IF the CA>Batman.
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Neutral I Think Bats WIns 6/10
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Batman Lol at everyone saying cap is closer to deathstroke when rebirth deathstroke is equal to batman and stalemated him in multiple comics
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Captain America Stats. We're talking stats. Not skill.
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Captain America The problem is you’re mentioning comics. Batman beats anyone the writer makes Batman beat. The writers could just as easily make deathstroke win or any other foe. As far as this battle goes, we are essentially the writer’s. We create the story. Captain America beats his foes in Captain America comics the same way that Batman beats his foes in Batman comics.
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Batman out of charachter if you bring that up batman could use his electricity from his suit to fry him or blow him up with explosives strong enough to destroy multiple city blocks
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Captain America The shield negates all of that. Cap is also much faster so if it's purely bloodlusted, then he can one-shot from the beginning.
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Batman Shield wont negate electricity wich hits body
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Captain America It actually does.
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Batman The shield is not as big as his whole body so how will the shield protect him from electricity coming from all of batman his suit frying his whole body
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Captain America 1) Cap can react quickly enough to avoid the electricity or block it.

2) He has taken electricity before and he's been fine.
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Batman 1 fair Point 2 how much volts?
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Batman Btw Batman was classified as a meta-human in 2017 after being exposed to dionesium metal (derived from Nth metal) for an extended period...he didn't gain "powers", but his abilities are now beyond human potential
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Captain America I think I know what comic that was but that's new 52
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Batman he got regeneration powers
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Captain America I know but that's no longer canon
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Batman How is it not
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Captain America Because New 52 isn't around anymore
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Batman Yes, you're both correct actually, he was able to regenerate to a greater degree than humans and it was from a previous storyline
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Captain America I used to think Batman until I became more fluent with the amazingly mind-blowing nature of comics.
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Batman Person A started strength training a few months ago and uses steroids. Person B has been training for years. Person A(merica) can now lift the same amount as person B(atman).
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Captain America Except CA didn't take steroids he took the SSS which makes you far beyond human capabilities.
Think of it this way, Batman's at 100% physical capacity that a human can achieve. CA is at 300%.
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Captain America False equivalents: Cap has been training in martial arts for years just like Bruce has. Before joining the army Steve went through what's basically comic book SEAL training and he went through multiple battles in WWII but his true training didn't start until after he joined the Avengers where he trained most of them in H2H combat. Point is Steve has been training arguably as long and as hard as Bruce.
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Batman There is no 300 100 is the max also no @Dark_Wing Batman has trained and studied in many things Cap did not he did not only master every Martial art on earth but also a few kryptonian and knows every pressure Point and nerve strike he also is trained in stealth interrogation techniques intimidation techniques he mastered every known weaponary he knows meditation Dim mak chi he has a bit knowledge on magic He has studied Biology,Technology, Mathematics, Physics, Mythology, Geography and History. Bruce gained degrees in Criminal Science, Forensic Sciences,computer Sciences,Chemistry,and Engineering by the time he was 21. He had mastered Diverse Environmental Training, Security Systems, and illusion/sleight of hand by the time he was 23. He gained even more degrees in Biology, Physics, Advanced Chemistry, and Technology by the time he was 25. He has also learned Medical Sciences and Expanded Computer and Engineering Science and way more so he had trained harder
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Captain America @jong We've debunked that before. CA is beyond that. To say CA has not trained many things again shows a lack of knowledge on CA. Iron Fist is considered one of the best fighters in Marvel and CA threw him about when they fought.
Being academically smarter won't help too much in a fight.
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Batman I just sayed batman is better trained Cap got the serum to get there he never trained
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Captain America Saying he never trained just proved you don't know CA at all.
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Batman Again putting words in my mouth i said batman had a harder training and trained more
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Captain America You said "Cap got the serum to get there he never trained"

I literally just proved he trained in the military.
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Captain America @jong You literally said "he never trained". @Dark_Wing just debunked that too
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Captain America @Tyr: when?
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Captain America You gave the link showing CA training. You literally just said you did before.
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Batman I was only referring to strength/physical abilities here...in the comic itself it said the SSS augmented him to the the peak of human abilities, so you're just making up the superhuman/300% thing...you can't argue with the original source material
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Captain America Its not in the same sense to which Batman is. Your comparing it to steroids which is just wrong. The SSS was supposed to be more. A peak human wouldn't have been able to do the feats that CA has done
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Batman a peak human also cant do the things batman does
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Captain America A comic book peak human can. Meanwhile, a peak human in comics can't do what Captain America does.
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Batman Uh no i know multiple peak humans wich can also if he is no peak human in comics what is he ?
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Captain America Name them. Also, you know what Captain America is.
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Batman He is not superhuman superhuman don't exist in comics like i proved before and even if you want to use it superhuman goes to charachters like captain britain or Spiderman who are 80 tonners Cap still falls under the peak human category
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Captain America Nice joke. You said it didn't exist and then you used it. You saying it doesn't exist doesn't make it non-existent. Cap is a superhuman. Not on the same level as Spider-Man or Captain Britain but he still is a superhuman and via his fights, his striking strength with that shield should be somewhat relative.
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Captain America You also didn't give me an answer to what I asked you to.
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Batman Answer to what? Also no according to Marvel their definition he is peak human
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Captain America If that was the case then why can't normal trianed people beat CA
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Batman The steroids analogy is merely to say that a unique external factor was used. Bruce trained to get to peak human and Steve had an experiment performed on him to get to peak human, that's the only difference.

Batman's feats are just as impressive as Captain America's ...and are humanly impossible, but not according to the comics
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Captain America Completely wrong. Batman trained only. CA was boosted well beyond that and trained before and afterwards since improving himself further. If training can get you to SSS level then it defeats the purpose. It's not super.

All his feats have been rightfully surpassed by CA.
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Batman It's not wrong Batman has litteraly comparable feats
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Captain America All of which have been surpassed.
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Batman @ Jongensoden @norrinradd
I agree with you both.., Batman is clearly the better fighter..the only reason captain America is able to do what he does is the serum...it's like Bruce Lee vs someone triple his size on POWERFUL drugs...Bruce Lee would take him out quickly..Batman is like Bruce Lee but in the comics he's even better...
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Captain America @Drmanhattan42 That's not a fair comparison because CA is also very well trained as well as being able to think faster. The h2h skill gap isn't that large.
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Batman Batman's got the advantage in intelligence and is a skilled fighter plus he's gadgets can help keep pace with Captain America.
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Batman Agreed
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Batman That's more than really close, it's dead even
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Batman I agree with this site's classification/ranking... T'Challa > Bruce > Steve...but it's definitely close
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Captain America Steve is boosted and is generally accepted to be physically superior to Batman.
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Batman I consider them to be physically equal since they're both peak human. They've both been boosted at times.
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Captain America Name the issue that Batman was boosted. CA is beyond that.
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Batman "Legends of the Dark Knight" issues # 15-20:
Took the original version of the Bane venom

"Superman & Batman: Generations" 1999:
Used the Lazarus pit

"Superman/Batman" #53-56 (2008):
Magically gained Superman's abilities in a fight with Banshee

"Trinity" (2008)
Bruce became a god called Atmahn the Night Judge

"Batman: The Dark Knight/ Knight Terrors" (2011):
Fear toxin gives him super strength, enough to hurt Superman in a fair fight

"Injustice: Gods Among Us Year Five" #25:
Batman takes synthesized version of Alex Luthor's 5-U-93-R drug and beats Superman into submission

"Justice League" #38:
Amazo virus

"Darkseid War" 2015:
Mobius chair makes him god of knowledge

Bruce has also been a green, yellow, and white lantern at different times
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Batman How can you say CA is beyond that, when you don't even know what "that" is?
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Batman Also in a Suicide Squad issue in 2017 he was classified as a meta-human
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Captain America None of those powers were permanent or part of continuity anymore. It was said by one person who didn't understand Batman. Many people get surprised when they realise Batman's just a guy in a suit.
I don't know why you brought up lanterns when this is base Batman
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Batman he is not just a guy in a suit he is more then that
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Captain America I know but I'm talking about how people see him in universe. Some of the thugs he faces don't know that.
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Batman Not only the thugs even many Heroes and villians who don't even fear superman fear him scarecrow who losed the emotion of fear because if overexposure of fear toxin lost his fear he is not even afraid of black lanterns but he is still afraid of batman even flash fears him Do criminals fear superman no they dont Because they know that all he will do is put them in prison and they would simply Break out again but they fear batman because he breaks their faces and leaves them paralyzed With punctured lungs After willpower his intimidation is what makes him batman
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Captain America Making Scarecrow be immune to all that but to then fear Batman is kind of fan pandering and is poor writing but its a minor point.
Batman would make a better yellow lantern than a green.
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Batman You said point out when he was boosted and I did. Storylines change all the time. Same goes for Cap, he could have been boosted in certain series, but who's to say it remains true in a new series. So if we're going with original main arcs they're both peak human.
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Captain America None of them were permanent or canon anymore so what's the point. That's like saying Spider-man wins because he had the power cosmic once.
If we go with base versions then CA is boosted more than a normal human
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Batman Base version Cap is peak human
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Captain America Did you miss the SUPER soldier part of the serum?
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Batman To say Cap is physically superior is one thing, (which I might be willing to concede and give him the slight edge), but to say he's as smart or smarter is so ridiculous. Batman is regularly considered to be in the top 10 or sometimes top 5 smartest people on earth in DC, & Cap is not even like top 30 in Marvel. Steve is definitely not smarter than Reed Richards, Valeria Richards, Bruce Banner, Tony Stark, Shuri, Professor X, Spider-Man, Ironheart, Hank Pym, Hank McCoy, Victor Von Doom, T'Challa, Amadeus Cho, Doctor Octopus, MODOK, Ultron, Norman Osborn, The High Evolutionary...to name a few
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Captain America They're not playing chess, they're fighting.
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Batman You mean the emblematic game of STRATEGY, to which you're implying Batman (the greatest tactician in the DC universe) would be better?
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Captain America In a straight fight it's not as helpful. CA has a very tactical mind and can make several plans a second as a result of his SSS.
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Batman SSS didn't affect his mind
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Batman How is strategy not helpful in a fight?
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Captain America See my other scans where I proved it did affect his mind. CA has the superior strategy. He may not be academically smart but he's still smart in a fight where it's important.
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Batman Batman has the greatest strategical mind in the DC universe
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Captain America Maybe he does but it's still not as good as CA
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Batman It's way better
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Captain America CA is probably second to none
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Batman Batman literally is second to none, and I think T'challa is a greater tactician than Cap, Cap is just more popular
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Captain America Batman's more popular than almost any hero except maybe Superman so that argument works against you.
CA's improved mind makes him a far better strategist than Batman ever could.
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Batman The Bat wins
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Batman Another thing mastering is not knowing i can know how to do a backflip don't Mean i can do it i can know how to beat a part in a videogame don't mean i can do it Batman mastered every Martial art Captain America just knows them all
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Captain America You're just ignoring evidence at this point and that just makes it even harder to convince us.
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Batman @Akhil While i also disagree with many of his points, he is right on this one. Batman has perfected every modern fighting style. He is the superior fighter. It isn't by a landslide, but he is.
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Captain America It's not that. He's ignoring the fact that Captain America is almost, if not as good of a fighter as Batman is. Maybe not down to the fine details, but he keeps trying to find random excuses as to why Cap won't win this fight, even if those excuses have been debunked.
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Batman Can you show me something wich says captain America mastered every martial art?
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Captain America 1) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659944798081384449/713866243655991326/capisskilled2.jpg - Cap is adept (highly proficient / a master) with every single fighting style on the planet.

2) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659944798081384449/713866260206714880/capisskilled1.jpg, https://imgur.com/a/6b9UN#0 - Cache, who has cataloged and knows every fighting style on the planet (something you said was Cap's limits) got absolutely trashed by Cap who even stated he was better than just "knowing" every fighting style on Earth, however, the thing was that Cache simply didn't know every fighting skill on the planet. He knew everything there was to know about the fighting skills and knew how to use them to their utmost ability. He was the "keeper of all knowledge".

3) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659944798081384449/713866257291542548/capisveryskilled1.jpg Even if Cap doesn't know something that Batman does (which is unlikely), regardless of how smart Batman is... Cap's brain was engineered to be faster and superior to that of a normal human. He is one of the best tacticians, not just on Earth, but in the universe. Kang even stated that Captain America adapted to master a fighting style in a very short period of time (you can say it's seconds, minutes at max) better than a person who spent DECADES mastering that one fighting style.

Steve has also fought some of the best fighters on the planet like Daredevil, Black Widow, Wolverine, Deadpool, Taskmaster, Iron Fist, Shang Chi, and Black Panther with some of them mastering every single fighting style on the planet and even beyond the planet.
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Batman 1 the special word is adapt 2 first of is cache an android? If so fodder he is not trained knowledge is crap at that Point it would be more impressive for captain beating the punisher Second Captain America says he won because he is faster stronger and is way better trained wich would be obvious since they charachte looks like a android 3 Batman spend decades? Batman has mind is so good it's Eidetic he never trained decades for 1 martial art also yes these are good fighters batman also fought the best fighters
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Captain America 1) Too bad. When stacked up with everything else, it makes sense in this context.

2) Just because it's an android doesn't mean it's fodder. It can literally master any and all fighting styles and fighting counters just because of its superintelligence. Even if you make the argument that it only knows the martial arts, Cap would be much better than it and that stacks up to him fighting and beating some of the best martial artists in all of Marvel. He's at the very least, extremely close to Batman in skill, but more likely, he's equal. If you keep trying to find methods to try to make Cap seem weaker, it's just going to make it harder to convince anyone that Batman is better. I used to think this was a very, very, very close fight. I still find it debatable, but not that close. It's definitely easier than what I previously thought it to be.

3) Cap can understand and master fighting skills on the fly. Batman is smarter overall, but it wasn't only his physical body that was enhanced to superhuman levels via the serum. Cap's mind was too. He's smarter than a normal person and his brain is wired to think quickly and efficiently. Like I said, if there is something Cap doesn't know, he can learn it during the fight.

I don't really care if Batman fought the best fighters. I know he has, but on that note, he's kind of also lost to people who were physically superior to him if they had the intelligence to keep up or people who, frankly, were far better combatants than him. Deathstroke is an opponent Batman regularly struggles with. Captain America is closer to Deathstroke than he is to Batman. He's physically superior, exactly like Deathstroke, has the mind to think like Deathstroke, and he's at the very least, an equal but most likely, superior combatant to Deathstroke armed with an offensive and defensive weapon better than Deathstroke's suit. The only difference between them is that Deathstroke carries more lethal weaponry and could be argued to be slightly superior in stats (same could be said for Cap though)...
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Batman 1 he adapted to all martial arts not mastered them 2 Androids are Trash they have no experience in fighting atleast show me captain America beating the punisher or something Captain America has trained for years ofcourse he would win also again Cap says he is
faster stronger and better trained wich makes sense why do you think its easier now ? 3 so can Batman not as fast but he still can i don't know where you get it from that batman did need a decade for 1 martial art Cap is not superhuman the comics always mention him as peakhuman and superhuman by comic standards don't exists like i have already proven Batman has eiditic memory he never forgeys anything he Sees and remembers it 100 percent it's not as good as Cap his but still good 4 psychically superior? Batman consistently beats stronger charachters Solomon grundy Killer Croc Clayface etc and Bane who is even close to him in intelligence and is also a good fighter Batman lost to better combatants but he all gave them good fights before this is Post Crisis but if we are talking rebirth Deathstroke outright talks about how skilled of a fighter Batman is, how strong and serious of a fighter he is, and talks about how he cannot take him lightly hell deathstroke was even afraid of going to Gotham because of him Deathstroke has way faster reflexes and Senses he has kinda something like spiderman his spider Sense he also reacts as fast as he thinks he has also the strength of 100 men wich is 8 ton Cap is a better fighter then deathstroke but so is batman Deathstroke has way more powerfull gear so deathstroke>cap
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Batman Show me where it says the super soldier serum affected his brain, because I've never seen or heard that anywhere....& Batman is the greatest tactician in the DC universe, so...
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Batman IMO T'Challa (who has the knowledge of every Black Panther before him) is a better strategist than Captain America...Cap just appears in more comics so we've seen more on him
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Captain America Nick Fury was once "He's smart, relentless and learns new skills faster than a damn computer - we have to assume he knows everything". Nick Fury had been studying him and came to this conclusion.
He's shown to memorise pages and pages of nuclear codes instantly.

Batman's appeared way way more than CA has so that argument can be used against him.
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Batman To end this debate in a open area Cap mostly wins in a closed area Batman just has to much gadgets If Cap is to much in a straight up fight Batman throws.a smoke bomb and uses his Stealth and intelligence with his gadgets he could attack him from behind so he don't need to worry About the shield and Cap wont see him coming he has just to much gadgets and ways to win i just Cant see Cap winning except if batman has a bad day
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Captain America That's why we're saying CA wins. The environment is open
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Batman Where does it say that
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Captain America An open environment is neutral to both parties
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Batman Cap is definitely Bruce's physical superior, but i just wanna say that Bats is no pushover.

Punching through bazooka-proof glass


Chopping bricks and kicking down trees with his bare hands and feet


Hits Dr. Death through a door used to withstand missiles.
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Batman those are not even his best he made a plane change direction with his leg and holded up a building cap is slightly stronger tough
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Captain America He did not hold up a building! How many times will I need to debunk that before you stop using that feat?
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Captain America To post it again... if you look at the previous scans in the comic, you can see that a building was collapsing and large pieces of the rubble were falling down and some people were trapped underneath. That's what Batman went to go lift, and even then, he was struggling a lot. Batman CANNOT lift up an entire building.
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Batman I said a part
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Captain America That still sounds wanked. It was only a giant piece of rubble.
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Batman Cap also never holded a normal Building
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Captain America Prove it. I proved that Batman never held up an entire building, so you now need to prove to Tyrannus that Cap never held up a normal building. And even if he-- oh wait. I can't refute it yet.
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Batman Tyrannus showed a scan of a broken building so
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Captain America I showed a skyscraper and you know it.
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Batman Yeah so ? It was broken
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Captain America It was broken because it fell on him. You said it was just a broken building.
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Batman So he did not even lift it he used the shield to protect himself from it
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Captain America Know he actually lifted it up because it fell on him.
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Batman People saying batman Cant disarm him yet beast has before
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Captain America That's not consistent. If that's what your relying on then it shows a lack of knowledge on CA
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Batman Keep dreaming
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Captain America So your explanation is to keep dreaming. No wonder CA wins
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Batman Everything i give you call pis
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Captain America I didn't say PIS
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Captain America Beast is one of the fastest and most agile people on the planet, comparable to someone like Spider-Man. He's also extremely strong, extremely durable, and has one of the most intelligent minds on Earth. He's much more powerful than Batman, and just because he disarmed Cap doesn't mean Bruce can. Plus I've seen scans where Captain America fought Beast and he seemed to be winning...
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Batman Anyone who says Cap is superhuman is just making an assumption based on the fact that an external factor was used to give him his abilities and "super" is in the name of the serum and is ignoring that fact that marvel stated this is not the case and he is peak human...yes he has been enhanced to superhuman AT TIMES, but this is not usually the case
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Captain America People say that he's superhuman because that's what his feats show?
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Batman Both got superhuman feats don't make him superhuman superhuman is a made up term tbh superhuman don't exist so explain me what it is if superhuman exists
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Captain America Could you please stop replying to me with the exact same points that I've refuted before? Thanks.
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Batman Until you tell me what superhuman is
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Captain America Then you're just spamming the same thing over and over.
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Captain America He can be considered super human because he has peak human strength, speed, reflexes, agility, endurance, and durability to the greatest degree of human evolution IN THE SAME BODY which would be impossible. The strongest human ever would have to have a completely different body than the fastest human ever, that's what the serum made possible. Technically he is enhanced but none of his physical attributes are beyond human potential. Batman on the other hand is peak human in all those same area's for a man his height and weight. That's the difference and Steve Rogers is physically superior. In fact to be stronger or faster than him would classify you as superhuman!
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Batman Captain america just made the human limit higher therefore stil peak human and Batman has feats far above any human so...
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Captain America You really don't understand how CA works. What happened to him would affect everyone else's limit, it just made him far better than any human can achieve which is what Batman is.
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Captain America @jongensoden That just means peak humans in Marvel are much stronger than peak humans in DC. It doesn't really help your case.
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Batman No Dc has stronger peak Batman also trained far better then any human can achieve
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Captain America Now you're just being contradictory. And Batman did achieve it so...
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Batman I get that people base their opinion of attributes on feats, but by definition, peak human can literally mean only one thing and would be the same in both DC and Marvel
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Captain America Yes and CA is beyond peak
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Batman Cap is peak human, you're inferring something different that what Marvel directly stated
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Captain America The whole point of the serum was to make you a Super Soldier. Being peak human isn't super. His feats show he's clearly more than peak.
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Batman Peak human is more super than any of us will ever be...they both have feats that we would consider to be impossible or above human potential, but the comics are stating that those feats ARE the maximum human potential
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Captain America Your missing the point. If someone with training like Batman can reach that level then it isn't really a SUPER soldier serum its just steroids. It was made to be more.
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Batman No it's made so there is no need to train for Steve it's bassicly a Fastest way to het to peak human outside training
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Captain America Not at all. If that was the case then anyone with training could beat CA. Your making false assumptions. Your constantly ignore that CA trains anyway. The SSS was to make him far better than human
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Batman Not everyone but some people can yeah captain America trains so what? Batman trained harder
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Captain America You've once again just proven you don't know CA then. Your owns points can be used against you. Batman trains, so what. CA trains harder.
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Batman captain does have a power and endurance advantage and Batman has admitted he could lose a hand-to-hand fight against him. Batman is more than just a boxer like cap. his stealth and disarming skills would allow him to turn the fight into his favor. Just because cap has the super soldier serum and can "see faster" , that doesnt mean he could see batman through a smoke bomb if he threw one. Also, batman regularly battles and sneaks around super beings far above your average goon. if he could ninja around superman's super-hearing, there's no reason he can't do the same to cap and of course, batman has more knowledge about pressure points and fighting styles because he's mastered all of them rather than simply being adept, which would help him beat captain america
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Batman Wow, another exact copy of death battle!
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Batman Well said, agreed but Batman would. Do exactly what THANOS did to Hulk in avengers infinity war.. and Hulk is known for his incredible strength..like Thanos, Batman is extremely experienced in fighting , that's all he does
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Captain America The only way Batman wins is if he takes Cap out from the shadows without giving him a chance.
If Steve becomes aware of the fight, then Batman loses.

Captain America is superior in every way physically.
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Batman
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Batman @tyrannus
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Captain America
For that appears to be an outlier. He was struggling
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Batman He has done it more then once
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Captain America I debunked that.
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Batman Batman will throw bomb in captain face and fly from there in batwing
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Captain America CA would tank the bomb and laugh as Batman runs away
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Batman I was talking about atom bomb nice try
Prove that he can survive atomic bomb
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Captain America Do you honestly think Batman carries atom bombs in his pocket? The explosion would kill him too genius.
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Batman He has multi city block level explosives
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Captain America That would still kill him too
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Captain America Captain America is equal or near equal in fighting capabilities. That is enhanced by Captain Americas increased reflexes, vision and thinking speed during combat compared to Batman. Captain America is a lot stronger than Batman and so much more durable and fast too.
Captain America wins 8 out of 100. Give Batman preptime, Captain America wins 6 out of 10. Give both prep time, Captain America wins 7 out of 10.
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Batman Wow no with prep batman stomps 10/10 without prep batman his intelligence combat and gadgets are to much for cap
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Captain America They'll never be enough for CA
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Captain America great assesment!
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Batman Cap is superhuman with a shield.
Bats is a peak human with a genius-level intellect, a belt full of weapons, and a mastery of all fighting styles.
Call it plot armor if you like, but Batman has fought people just as superhuman and even metahuman and came out on top.
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Captain America Agreed.
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Captain America Captain America is also the leader of the Avengers and has fought characters vastly above his paygrade. He's mastered every single fighting style and has beaten some of the most skilled fighters in all of comics... plus that shield you were talking about? It took hits from Thor, Hulk, and Thanos before.
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Batman Batman is still a better fighter and studied more then captain America He has studied Biology Technology, Mathematics Physics Mythology Geography and History. Bruce gained degrees in Criminal Science, Forensic Sciences Computer Sciences Chemistry and Engineering by the time he was 21. He had mastered Diverse Environmental Training, Security Systems, and illusion/sleight of hand by the time he was 23. He gained even more degrees in Biology, Physics, Advanced Chemistry, and Technology by the time he was 25. He has also learned Medical Sciences and Expanded Computer and Engineering Sciences. he not only trained every Martial art on earth but also kryptonian he also knows every pressure Point and nerve strike and something over 400 ways to knock someone down and batman is trained in way more other things batman can disarm the shield
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Captain America Half of that paragraph is academic intelligence which I agree, Batman is easily smarter than Captain America. Tactically, they're both even. Cap knows his environment better than you think and he's good at math... calculating how to throw it shield and deflect it and all, so no. Batman can't easily disarm it. Even if he does... it turns into a hand to hand fight where Captain America can hold his own. They'd basically stalemate there unless Batman tries one of his tricks with his gadgets which again, isn't 100% effective as Cap has taken on people like Iron Man. He's also faster, stronger, and more durable and won't just give his shield up. Cap is also a master of every martial art on Earth and he's trained in some unearthly styles too or styles that aren't counted as styles from Earth as they're not public.
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Batman I never said he can easily disarm but during the fight he would propably throw a smoke bomb and uses his stealth to disarm him you realize iron man has Almost killed captain America ? I agree with him being Faster stronger and more durable but look at bane he is also Faster stronger and more durable and almost as smart and a good fighter but batman still beats him it would be a really even battle tough
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Batman Ok, Cap is not a master of all fighting styles. Batman is. Cap is a very good h2h fighter, but he's adept in all fighting styles, while Batman has perfected every fighting style known to man. That may not sound like it matters, but it definitely does.
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Captain America Disarming the shield won't be that easy. Cap always knows how it to get it back, regardless of who tries to take it. On that note, Captain America has also beaten Iron Man before and Iron Man is better than Batman in every way (except for fighting skills). Bane doesn't have the same fighting style as Captain America. Cap is much more skilled and Bane has a notable weakness. His venom is as much of a weakness as it is a physical stat enhancer. I do agree with this being a good fight though.

And yes, Captain America knows every single martial art on the planet and is one of the most skilled fighters in all of Marvel Comics.
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Batman It won't be easy but batman would disarm it and in that time he would uses his electric gadgets iron man was not really fighting back against Cap and there was once a time iron man almost killed cap bane is still almost as good of a fighter like batman he is trained ln most martial arts and even created his.own batman has beaten bane amped with venom before without cutting his venom. Where is it stated captain America knows every Martial art? Even then batman also trained in kryptonian Martial arts and knows every pressure Point and nerve strike and over 400 ways to knock someone out without blood and 463 different ways to intimidate someone without harming them
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Captain America That's just wishful thinking. Even if he somehow does, it'd allow CA to knock him out.
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Batman Until you come with a longer response ignore this
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Captain America I've responded to everything you've said before. I'm just not going to repeat myself over and over so you can ignore and lie about it.
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Batman @Akhil
1. Scan? I need some proof that Cap knows all fighting styles on the planet.
2. Knowing a fighting style and mastering a fighting style are two very different things. Cap knowing all fighting styles is very different from him mastering them all (which Batman has). I'm not trying to downplay his fighting ability, but he's not as skilled in combat as Batman.
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Captain America Batman is a Normal Human, Captain America is a Skilled Supersoldier.
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Batman Batman is not a normal human
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Captain America He is
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Batman Until you show me a normal human keep fighting with bullets in his head make or make plane change direction with his legs he is not a normal human
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Captain America He's not an AVERAGE human but he still human. Your so confused
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Batman then captain america should also be a normal human
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Captain America CA is boosted. But of course you'll ignore this as you've done before
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Captain America 1) When he has been shot in the head and kept fighting?
2) Scans of him changing a plane with his legs.
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Batman @tyrannus then what he is if he is no human a animal ?
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Batman i have more examples of you want
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Captain America That's called having a bulletproof COWL. The bullet never punctured his skull.
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Batman Ok he also kept fighting with bullets in his legs
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Captain America I'm the one arguing Batman's human. Your the one saying he isn't
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Batman Batman is human but he is not a normal human
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Captain America He is a normal human because he has no powers. He's just not like the AVERAGE human.
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Batman He is metahuman
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Captain America He's not. The only proof you showed was an unverified statement which is from the new 52
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Batman The statement was correct
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Captain America You don't know that and either way it's New 52
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Batman It's rebirth
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Batman In my opinion, Batman wins
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Captain America Cap 6/10... close fight, especially without prep time.
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Batman I'd hate for these two to even fight in the first place. This is a really tough one to call, I love them both.
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Captain America Me too but this leans to CA. Odds weight to heavily in his favour
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Batman bruh
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Captain America Yeah
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Captain America Batman should win in a hard fought battle, I Would Say Cap wins 4/10 while Bruce wins 6/10, in my opinion I Would Say Batman wins
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Captain America Fight can play out like this before they stalemate
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Batman Batman would win
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Captain America Never been able to prove this. @BlotskyA's voted Batman anyway
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Batman Batman is more skilled, stronger, faster, more durable
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Captain America He is not faster, stronger, or more durable.
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Batman Better pain resistance and equal reflexes
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Captain America @AkhilPDX is right
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Captain America Cap is stronger, faster, and slightly more durable
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Captain America So why did you vote Batman
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Captain America because of Intelligence, now captain america is smarter than People like Captain Atom but Batman is like the 2nd smartest,
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Batman @Akhil No, but he is more skilled and smarter.
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Captain America @booyah Noob
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Captain America And yet you've still voted Batman
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Batman The scan says Cap is not even peak human
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Captain America It doesn't say that
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Batman It says Rogers is not superhuman but he has become a nearly perfect human being
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Captain America Yes because this serum didn't do what it did to the Sentry. Sentry become superhuman.
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Batman Sentry got a way way way more powerfull version
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Captain America No Sentry took several untested versions. He got turned into a superhuman
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Batman Ok but Cap is not
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Captain America What WILL it take you to change your bias? That statement is nothing considering he just came out and they randomly put the statement in. The feats performed by Captain America are superhuman, even by comicbook standards. There's nothing you can do to change that Jon.
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Batman Wich superhuman feats
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Captain America We've shown so many it's not even funny. Batman is the inferior opponent here. Cap is better physically and tactically. You can't have a close mind when it comes to Batman, you need to accept he loses.
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Batman You showed nothing superhuman
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Captain America We have you just ignore it or excuse it
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Batman All these feats i debunked and either way i told you comparable feats wich batman has so according to you either batman is also superhuman or both are not superhuman
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Captain America Name feats you debunked because I know you didn't.
Until Batman gets boosted he will lose. It's why he's not superhuman
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Batman Captain America holding up a building tanking ig thanos his hits etc
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Captain America Already explained how it's Cap who lifts the skyscraper not the shield.
It was actually you who lied when you said IG Thanos never hit Cap. I said to you don't pretend to know but you insisted you did until I proved you wrong.
Is that it? 2 examples where it was me who debunked you and found you a liar.
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Batman I never did say the shield lifted it i did say the shield helped him without shield he could not lift that give batman the shield and he can Cap got knocked out in 1 hit i also debunked more like batman Being just a man captain America having better willpower
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Captain America Where's you proof CA couldn't lift it without the shield?
Where's you proof Batman could lift it with the shield?
You claimed Thanos never hit him.
Batman is a man and still has less willpower than CA
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Batman The shield gives him a wilder space going to batman has comparable strength feats i later told you he did so what's the problem batman is superhuman and has more will
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Captain America I've already told you the shield's not wider than his arms. This is just another example of me debunking you but you just ignoring and repeating the same thing.
No proof batman's comparable strength.
Already shown he has less will than CA
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Batman You realize if you make a circle with your hand there is a hole in the mid. Actually that is what you are doing. I Actually proved he has more will and comparable strength
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Captain America You said the shield is wider, it's not. His arms are and your ignoring the main point. Only CA could have held that weight. That's a strength feat which you've always ignored.
You've never proven he has comparable will or strength.
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Batman The shield closes the hole their arms make if Batman makes his arms wide everything goes trough them so he Cant make them wide ignoring everything i said i see
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Captain America Your missing what I'm saying. You said the shield is wider which it's not. His arms are wider and more importantly it needs power to hold that weight which you keep ignoring.
You failed to show proof Batman is stringer or has better will so you concede.
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Batman I already proved that of batman has a random schield he would do the same
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Captain America You haven't, you just say so and leave it at that
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Batman I Actually proved that
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Captain America Nope. Haven't seen any.
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Batman ...
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Captain America Exactly
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Captain America Just Imagine Captain America as a Batman Villain
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Captain America Cap's the furthest person from a villain
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Captain America I'm just saying Imagine him as a villain
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Batman Cap will get destroyed
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Batman Batman kills Cap
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Captain America @booyah Never seen something so wrong with only 3 words
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Batman Yeah batman don't kills
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Captain America Batman wouldn't kill cap but cap will kill batman,
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Captain America Exactly. It's why CA will win
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Batman Cap also don't kill you don't understand cap
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Captain America Lol what do you think he did in WWII? Don't embarrass yourself
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Batman He don't kills random Heroes only in a war he kills People
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Captain America No he kills if he needs to.
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Captain America Alright let's break it down now Captain America is Stronger, slightly Faster and Slightly More Durable, Now Cap has his Shield however this won't be a problem for bruce, as bruce has fought deathstroke and his Armor is just as tough as Cap's Shield, Now Captain America has fought People like Daredevil and Black Panther who are very similar to batman however Batman has fought Deathstroke who's Similar to slade, so they might have an understanding of who they're going up against, now Cap is more Experience as he's fought since World War 2 however Batman has fought people who are more Experience than him, Now Batman is smarter and a better fighter as he is considered to be the top 5 best fighters and ra's al ghul comment on how intelligent batman is, and that is probaly the x-factor, batman is just more intelligent, yes Captain America is smarter than people like Captain Atom but Batman should win in a hard fought battle, I Would Say Cap wins 4/10 while Bruce wins 6/10, in my opinion I Would Say Batman wins
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Captain America Captain America.
These are my 2 favorite heroes. However, there is just no question here, Cap outclasses Batman. Cap is by far physically superior in every category. He also matches Batman in fighting skill but has better reflexes. Caps shield will also make up for the gap that Batman presents in versatility.
Cap 8 out of 10.

Batman could get those 2 out of 10 due to his brain not his braun.
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Batman You are so wrong
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Captain America Trust me he's right. It's really bad that you said he's so wrong
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Captain America I Disagree with you @Heroclix21 but I Like your Reasoning
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Captain America It's one of the best explanations I've ever seen why Cap wins
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Batman Except it's wrong they are Psychically comparable except batman is a better fighter better gear more willpower smarter more pain resistance
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Captain America No. You keep denying that the SSS makes Cap faster, stronger, durable and better tactician. Willpower should go to Cap too. Things that would cause pain to Batman would tickle Cap.
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Batman Dionesium did the same to batman and batman trained first to peak human
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Captain America Where's the evidence he became a superhuman?
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Batman He Already is low superhuman dionesium boosted him further and gave him Regeneration factor
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Captain America But he isn't physically on Caps level. Until he gets boosted he never will
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Batman I just told you he got boosted
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Captain America So @Heroclix21 wasn't that wrong
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Batman I meant batman got boosted
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Captain America Batman isn't really boosted. If anything that's a minor adjustment not boosting
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Batman He got boosted and is already comparable so...
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Captain America He didn't get boosted get just got invigorated and that was new 52
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Batman He got boosted and batman never got retconned
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Captain America This isn't new 52 it's post crisis
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Captain America I agree. Captain America is just too much here.
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Captain America Agreed. Cap takes it.
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Batman It would be impossible for Cap to match Bats in fighting skill...Bruce mastered every fighting style on Earth, Cap was frozen for 75 years. How does the serum make him a better tactician? Makes no sense.
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Batman This is closer than most people think. BTW Cap is not superhuman, they are BOTH "PEAK HUMAN," and both have performed "superhuman" feats. Basically, one of them trained for decades and one of them took PEDs to arrive at the same level physically. However, it would not be crazy to say that Cap slightly edges him in durability and stamina because of this. Batman has superior combat skills having mastered ALL martial arts, but in my mind what wins is intelligence & ingenuity, which Batman also wins. To me, as a character Batman is more like Black Panther than Captain America.

Batman wins 6 or 7 out of 10 times
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Captain America @NorrinRadd The SSS makes Cap far beyond human. If it made him peak human there was in point in the SSS if anyone can reach his levels with training.
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Batman No the SSS made him peak human show me where it says he is superhuman both have superhuman feats either way so it's irrelevant
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Captain America It's not irrelevant because Cap is known for being boosted far beyond human abilities now. That was the whole point of the SSS. Training should't be able to reach those levels.
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Batman Batman his feats are also far beyond human abilites so yes it's irrelevant
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Captain America His feats aren't able to top Cap because he's not boosted
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Batman Except their feats are comparable
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Captain America Never been shown to be the case
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Batman Batman won't win psychically so it's irrelevant to disccus either way
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Captain America That's what we've been trying to tell you this whole time. Cap is physically superior
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Batman They are still very close and Batman has better pain resistance
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Captain America They're not close until Batman gets boosted
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Batman Stop using the boosted argument it's stupid
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Captain America It's the reason why he wins. That's like saying Flash only beats people because of his speed.
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Batman Batman brings way more versatility to the table, he would definitely win in a all out battle!
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Batman @Remy welcome back!
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Captain America they're very even in speed and durability, with running speed, cap takes it, with agility, batman takes it, durability is almost the same, it's too hard to call, With Strength, Cap takes it, while Cap is stronger, Bats has the weapons to counter that
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Captain America In durability, Captain America has the edge by far. He even survived on him. He also takes endurance, having fought after cutting the Zola virus out of his chest. With agility, he has dodged lasers and gunfire at point blank range, often from multiple angles. I agree, Cap is stronger, but he has the shield in response to Batman's gadgets.
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Captain America I Think you don't really understand Batman's Speed and Durability
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Captain America Batman tagging speedsters and evading Omega beams has been debunked and can often be deduced to plot armor. How does catching an arrow compare to blocking gunfire with a shield while falling from multiple angles? How does fighting for a long time compare to fighting for years in another dimension after cutting a hole in your self to remove a deadly virus?
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Batman Pain resistance goes to batman durability is fairly equal Batman got tortured for years by desaad and gas not giving up batman Sees bullets in slow motion so you can Argue batman Being Faster the thing is Batman his gadgets are to much batman just disarms Cap and then uses his gadgets batman can beat charachters Faster then him like impulse kid flash etc also stronger and as smart and skilled like bane
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Captain America The SSS makes Cap physically far beyond Batman it's not even a comparison. Anything Batman can do Cap does better.
You assume he can disarm Cap but he never will.
Batman can beat people faster than him but that doesn't mean he's as fast. Superman's also stopped Flash. Doesn't mean he's as fast.
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Batman The feats show them comparable what says he Cant disarm Cap when less skilled People then batman can do so im saying captain America Being Faster don't Mean anything either way the main reason Batman wins is because of his gear
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Captain America You need to stop underestimating Cap's shield. It can damage Iron Man's armor, which has taken 25 tonners like Spider-man to damage. It took the turret off a tank and one-shotted Namor. Batman doesn't have a reliable counter to his shield, and if he does, Cap is still physically stronger and as equally skilled.
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Batman You need to stop overrating it People less skilled then batman disarmed it His gadgets are to much Batman could throw multiple batarangs at the same time at his face which he will block using his shield leaving the rest of his body without defense which is where he uses electric gadgets or something else

his gadgets could oneshot An enhanced emperor penguin explosives wich can send superman flying back electric bombs wich Hurt zod drones with fear gas energy blasts wich can harm deathstroke he has to much versatilty
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Captain America You always claim feats are comparabile but they never are. You just want them to be.
Less skilled people don't disarm Cap's shiled.
If anything we're underrating the shield. All Cap needs to do is throw it at Batman and he'd die. He's blocked bullets in all directions. A few batterangs or bombs won't be much.

You made an interesting point though. You said Batman wins because of his gear. So you accept Cap is physically better than Batman?
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Batman Except i showed comparable feats. Daredevil winter soldier Spider man they all disarmed his shield Cap throwed his shield to red skull before and he did not die he throwed them to Hydra soldiers and they got knocked out but did not die stop overrating the shield like i said before he throws multiple batarangs Cap blocks them leaving the rest of his body without defense he has explosives wich can oneshot killer croc they won't take out Cap but they Will Hurt him also Cap's shield will be useless against electric weapons anyway.
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Captain America No you didn't. I topped them all which makes sense because of the SSS.
Those people are very different to Batman. He can't do the same.
He threw it slower those times because he doesn't kill unless he really needs to.
Cap would block all the batterangs like he's done to the hundreds of bullets that have come his way.
The shield doesn't become useless to electricity.
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Batman Either way it's irrelevant if you want to live in denial sure batman wont win psychically but by his gadgets Batman is superior to Daredevil and winter soldier in litteraly every category so why would Cap kill batman in this match ? Why Bring it up if batman throws a electric bomb it Will affect his body or a Sonic bomb the shield is also uselless against these they Will still affect Cap shield or not he has also magnetic batarangs 1 is strong enough for 10 People with armor to stick to each other
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Captain America Minus the shield, Cap still has the physical advantage while they are equally skilled combatants. Cap took a blast from Gambit at point blank range, so he could take Batman's tasers.
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Captain America @jong That is hilarious from the person who keeps assuming Batman will just find a way to win despite being outclassed here. You've been in denial that Batman wasn't weaker this whole time until now.
Your sentences don't make sense so I don't know what your saying.
Cap would kill him if he wanted.
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Batman @heroic Except batman is clearly a better Cap is barely psychically superior Electric volts wich can Hurt zod sure as hell Will damage cap @tyrannus you think that strength and psychically is the only way to win it's not even then Cap is not far better psychically and he Will disarm the shield because less skilled charachters like winter soldier and Daredevil did. The shield is uselless against Sonic bombs electric attacks wich can Hurt zod magnetic batarangs 1 of them is strong enough for 10 People with armor to stick to each other or stick People to a train Cap wont get past those gadgets
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Captain America Batman only has training. Cap has training and the SSS. If the SSS made you slightly better there'd be no point.
Marvel's official description on what the SSS did to Cap; "which induced greater-mutations than peak human capabilities". Batman is only peak which is why he says to Cap that he would win.
The shield blocks all gadgets. If it can stop the Hulk it will stop Batman. No one like Batman has been able to disarm the shield.
You said they were comparible psychically. Really Cap thinks far quicker and plans better because of the SSS so Cap has him beat physically and mentally.
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Batman Batman has training wich Brought him to the same level like Cap. Batman trained and is still training so what ? Batman is superhuman batman said Cap could win not would either way that's not canon and batman wont win psychically so why are we disccusing this hulk is dumb he just smashes Batman is a master tactician if charachters like winter soldier and Daredevil can disarm him batman can a Sonic grenade still would affect him it would stick to the shield and still affect Cap Magnetic batarangs still can disarm it after he is disarmed Batman beats him by energy blasts capapble of destroying robots
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Captain America Your not getting it. I literally gave you Marvels official description which said the SSS makes you beyond that. This is common knowledge though. Batman can never be on Cap's level. They both train the same but Cap is boosted. Stop denying this.
Batman is a very proud man so he wouldn't admit that unless it was fact. The writers wrote what Batman would say.
How else do you fight if not physically? Are they playing chess?
Batman is not Winter Soldier or Daredevil. They're different and if Cap doesn't want anyone taking his shield, Batman never will.
The shield's taken worse.
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Batman The feats show them still comparable blockbuster is boosted yet batman beats him Being boosted means nothing he admitted Cap could win not would win 2 different things batman Outsmarts his opponents and wins by stealth and combat/gadgets winter soldier and Daredevil are below batman in everything Except Cap got disarmed many times so batman can Also use magnetic batarangs strong enough to make 10 People stick to each other he wont destroy the shield he would throw Sonic bombs wich Will still affect Cap shield or not same for electric attacks he also has Electric handcuffs
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Captain America You've never shown feats to be comparable.
Cap is not Blockbuster. Being boosted means a lot though given Deathstroke beats him all the time. Taskmaster knows all h2h combat in Marvel yet he loses to Cap because he's stronger.
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Batman You ignored the fear part again even then i showed many comparable feats like batman making a plane change direction with his legs blockbuster is also boosted so are 50 percent of batman his villians yet batman beats them taskmaster lost to batman in the crossover i know it's not canon but even then batman should take him
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Captain America Batman had to get over his fears while Cap never had them.
I showed you every time that Cap changed a plane too but also surpasses him every time.
Blockbuster is not Cap at all. Neither are Batman's villains. Cap beat Taskmaster, Iron Fist and Wolverine. I'm guessing that means he beats Batman too then.
The fact that you tried to compare the villains to Cap shows a severe lack of understanding for Cap. Please research him first so you'll see he wins. Don't pretend to know him.
Batman doesn't know every move Taskmaster does so no Batman would lose again.
Even Batman disagrees with you.
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Batman You keep ignoring his gear so i think we are done. Yes so very close you was not able to find a strength feat batman Cant acomplish. I know blockbuster is not Cap but you say Cap beats batman because he is boosted Blockbuster is also boosted so? Taskmaster and iron Fist both would lose to Batman Cap never beated Wolverine until he got help from giant man. It is Stated multiple times Batman knows every fighting style and he is psychically superior to taskmaster with better gear and he can predict moves by air pressure so batman beats taskmaster
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Captain America Cap beat a prepared Taskmaster with all sorts of gear. Batman knows all the martial arts, but Cap fights smart and coordinated, which allows for him to beat opponents as or more skillful than Batman like Iron Fist and Cache. Batman has feats of strength but all of Cap's CONSISTENTLY hit higher than Batman's best feats of strength. And no, Iron Fist would not lose to Batman thanks to his superior skill, agility and striking power that allowed for him to one-shot a hellicarrier and destroy a fast traveling train armed with explosives.
Stop ignoring Cap's feats. They are more consistent and more 'realistic' than Batman's peak human feats. Batman is peak. Cap is enhanced.
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Batman Scans of taskmaster with prep vs captain? If Iron Fist lost to Cap he wont beat batman also im sure you hear of Morals iron Fist won't hit as hard as a mouintan to a human batman his feats are superhuman so are Cap they are close both their feats are consistent and close superhuman don't even exist tbh if Super means above the limits of a human But how can you be above the limits of a human For example someone lifts 500 kg Tommorow someone lifts 1 ton He Broke the record so he made the human limit higher he is not superhuman
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Captain America You keep ignoring the SSS makes Cap far better than training ever will. You just want to believe Batman will win because you can't stand to see him lose to someone you don't know.
I mentioned the skyscraper while Batman just lifted rubble many times.
Deathstroke's also boosted and wipes the floor with Batman. So by your logic Cap wins then right?
Cap has beaten Wolverine every time except in Wolverine: Origins so your lying again. Taskmaster and Iron Fist could beat Batman.
Again you lie because Karate Kid is the only person in DC who know every move in DC.
Your credibility is crumbling.
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Batman So far you have shown nothing what is far above batman also according to the crossovers they are equal Cap used the shield to hold the skyscraper like i debunked before and ? Batman has also beaten many boosted charachters nope wolverine beaten captain America many other times Avengers VS x men wolverine was outlasting Cap until giant man saved him and they had many more fights taskmaster loses to batman also you said on iron Fist VS batman batman beats him again karate kid knows every Martial art in the Galaxy batman knows ever Martial art on earth and some kryptonian taught by superman stop saying im lying when you don't know what you are talking about
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Captain America Lol so far I've shown nothing? I literally repeated a feat which has been repeated so many times. Read up man unless you don't want to see the truth or your just trolling.
According to the crossover Batman said he'd lose.
You never debunked the shield because I told you literally every time that the shield can't lift weight, Cap can.
Batman loses to Deathstroke who's boosted so that doesn't matter.
Did you even read AvX? They barely fight and the best thing Wolverine does is cut the straps on his shield before Cap beats him out of the plane.
Don't pretend Batman knows everything Taskmaster does. I said Iron Fist COULD beat Batman.
You claimed Batman knows every fighting style. If that was the case he shouldn't lose to Lady Shiva, Cass, Deathstoke, Bane and Prometheus.
You have been caught lying many times now and known to be severely biased.
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Batman You showed nothing far above batman his feats only comparable batman said he could lose not he would both are Cap different things and batman was not using his gadgets Cap lifted it but if you give batman the shield he would also it gives a wilder space. Boosted means nothing some boosted charachters beat batman some lose just because you are boosted don't Mean you win. Wolverine was outlasting Cap until he got help if captain America beats taskmaster by Being psychically superior batman can do the same don't forget batman also can predict moves he knows every fighting style on earth also batman has beaten Shiva before and Cass never beated batman she just has some statements wich are condraticted by the fact Thomas Wayne batman beat her while fighting the batfamily Thomas is below Bruce nightwing has also beaten her before Bane and batman are equal and deathstroke don't beats batman because of combat and Prometheus Well he is above batman
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Captain America I literally named the feats before in these very replies. Look.
It took a lot for Batman to admit he'd lose so that means it's likely.
Batman doesn't have the shield, Cap does. The shield isn't wider than his arms.
Deathsroke's boosted and so he consistently beats Batman. It is relevant, its the reason Cap wins.
Wolverine outlasted Cap once. He lost every other time.
Cap beats Batman the same way he beat Taskmaster. Batman certainly doesn't know everything Taskmaster did. Your wrong.


Your wrong again.
I have no idea what your saying. Improve your grammar.
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Batman None of these feats are way above batman. It's contradicted nightwing red hood and Thomas Wayne batman have beaten Cass so Batman sure also can batman thinks he can beat superman does that make him above superman does this Mean Cass>batman>superman it's irrelevant Cap lifts that because the shield is wide Enough to let it lift that Batman dont but he has the strength to do the sale joker is boosted Harley Quinn is boosted clayface is boosted to they beat batman? No so stop bringing it up. Lol every other time wolverine beated Cap 2 times Batman>taskmaster if Cap beats taskmaster by Being psychically superior so does batman
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Captain America @Jon, Cap did beat a prepped Taskmaster, but my link isn't working properly. @Tyrannus can probably show you. In addition to this, Cap beat Cache, who mastered every martial art, Wolverine, Lady Deathstrike, Nuke (who is bulletproof), took a blast from Gambit at point blank range and beat him after, beat Crossbone and without his serum and more. In strength, he has consistently shown to be higher. How does bench-pressing 1000 lbs compare to Cap pulling down a small hellicopter and supporting the weight of lots of rubble. Your airplane feat is either PIS, or Batman isn't supporting the whole weight of it. He would need Spider-man-level strength to do so, which he doesn't. Cap dodges bullets and lasers more regularily, even at point blank range, from multiple angles, and once he dodged after it was fired. Cap beat Taskmaster by mixing up fighting styles, and you have yet to prove batman is physically superior, which he isn't. Cap is stronger, faster and more durable, basically everybody but you agrees, even the other Batfans here.
@Tyrannus is right, you need to add periods, because I'm having a hard time understanding what you're writing.
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Batman Captain America beat cache by strength not combat is strength and combat so that wont work captain America never beat wolverine without help idk batman punched trough bulletproof glass Crossbones don't compare to batman he supported the rubble with his shield batman done the same but he struggled because he had no schield it's not pis batman consistently does things like that so nope batman Sees bullets in slow motion so he has Faster reflexes never said he is psychically superior they are Psychically comparable
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Captain America That's wrong again. Cap beat Wolverine almost every time. Your referring to an inconclusive battle.
You've never shown any strength feats that top Cap you just keep imagining Batman has the shield which he doesn't.
Don't know what you said towards the end because your not improving your grammar.
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Batman Show me when Cap beat wolverine i showed many comparable strength feats the only strength feat you showed he used his shield i did say batman Sees bullets in slow motion so he has Faster reflexes never said he is psychically superior they are Psychically comparable
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Captain America CA #405 and AvX. Cap also had an edge in Wolverine Origins #4. Cap destroys him in Wolverine Origins #20.
You didn't show many feats. You showed Batman lifting rubble while I showed Cap holding a skyscraper.
Cap is faster because of the SSS.
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Batman Avx Wolverine outlasted Cap until he got help in Origins Wolverine destroyed Cap i Will read the other comics you mentioned Cap did not lift the skyscraper he holded Broken pieces of it that is not lifting strength. That argument is stupid show some feats wich prove Cap is faster
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Captain America Wolverine still couldn't defeat Cap in #4. In #20 Logan describes this as the worst beating he'd ever received.
No it was the whole skyscraper that had fallen on him.
The SSS makes you faster than humanly possible.
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Batman I told you i Will look into that. Yes and the shield protected him that is not lifting strength so until you show captain America having greater lifting strength that is invalid. Batman is also Faster then any Human possible and that's invalid until you show me captain America Being Faster
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Captain America Cap literally lifts the weight up.
Cap is faster than Batman ever can be.
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Batman He used his shield that's not lifting strength. Also prove Cap is faster
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Captain America Using the shield doesn't take away the strength feat. How about you go and try to stop a collapsing building with a vibranium shield? We'll see how that turns out.
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Batman 1 batman his feats show that he can do the same we are talking lifting strength without something else the shield gave him a wilder space
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Captain America What feats?
Cap's arms are wider than the shield
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Batman Batman his are not wider
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Captain America So no feats.
No idea what you said
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Batman His arms are not wider
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Captain America Are you really telling me the shield is wider than 2 arms?
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Batman Yes there is hole in the arms so
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Captain America Arms don't have holes. Your completely ignoring the shield didn't do any lifting, Cap did. Could you do the same if you had the shield?
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Batman No but batman would
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Captain America No proof and makes no sense to say
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Batman You did not ask for proof
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Captain America You could have shown some.
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Captain America Actually, Batman is a peak human, whereas the Super Soldier serum has boosted Cap beyond. Batman can bench press about 1000 lbs, whereas Cap can pull down a small helicopter, punch Wolverine through a car, KO Nuke, support about 1-2 tons of weight. He is also more agile, capable of dodging bullets and lasers at point blank range, and having more endurance and durability. He survived a building falling in, was shot and recovered quickly, and was infected with the Zola virus, which he cut out of his chest, and kept on fighting. They are around equal in skill, and his shield is superior to Batman's gadgets. It can one-shot Namor and take the turret off of a tank.
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Batman Both are superhuman batman made a plane change direction with his legs dragged a plabe of 3 tons batman Sees bullets in slow motion van tag Speedsters. Endurance is around equal both can fight for weeks batman has higher pain resistance everything you said about durability batman did also also he survived hits from wonder woman Lobo superman etc he got tortured by desaad for years and have not up batman can easily disarm the shield batman has to much gadgets he can use to beat cap
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Batman Stop underrating batman and overrating Cap
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Captain America @jong Your being biased here. @HeriocSacrifice123 told you straight facts which you cannot deny and yet somehow you still are because you don't want to see Batman lose.
Tagging speedsters has already been debunked.
Don't compare them physically when Cap is clearly superior. You thought the SSS brought Cap to Batman's levels at one point which is plain wrong.
Batman cannot disarm Cap's shield. He's weaker.
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Batman Except heroic is the biased here because he Hates batman and likes cap and no he can react to Speedsters except they are Psychically comparable your only argument is Cap got the serum batman is just a man also i said something different i said batman trained to the level Cap is and is still training Batman has comparable strength and way more gear after he disarmed him he uses his gadgets wich he has way to much he has almost everything in his belt he could oneshot An enhanced emperor penguin with it so Cap is going down batman has to much gear
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Captain America When has @Herioc said he hates Batman and loves Cap?
You ended up saying he can only sneak up on speedsters not actually react to them.
The SSS is the main one. I've told you more reasons before.
I've already told you it's not possible to train to Cap's level. You may want that to be the case but it can't happen. Cap has the SSS and trains.
Feats and facts still show Cap is superior.
Batman cannot disarm Cap. Many have tried and failed.
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Batman He said multiple times he Hates batman he could still react to Them except if everything Cap can do batman has also done batman trained where Cap is batman has trained to there and still trains feats show them comparable except in durability intelligence versatilty and combat wich goes to batman winter soldier disarmed Cap before Batman is better then bucky
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Captain America When has @Heroic said that? If you can't find it I can confirm with @Heroic himself.
No it's the other way round. If Batman can do it, Cap can do it better because he's boosted.
Batman didn't train in the army, learn the ways of Kun Lun or study and beat Shang-Chi.
Batman's feats are not comparable. They all go to Cap.
If Cap wanted to he would destroy Winter Soldier.
You need to put full stops or paragraphs. I'm struggling to understand what your saying. It doesn't make sense.
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Batman Least favorite charachters forum except looking at feats batman and Cap have the same batman trained every Martial art on earth knows every pressure Point and nerve strike and is trained in some kryptonian Martial arts im saying winter soldier can disarm him so batman also
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Captain America He said he's ok with Batman it's just the prep and PIS parts he don't like.
Name feats that Cap hasn't been able to surpass?
Batman doesn't know every martial art on earth. Only Karate Kid does.
Cap also knows these things. If Cap doesn't want you disarming him, you won't be able to disarm him.
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Batman How about you mention feats batman could not surpass it's mentioned 6 times batman knows every Martial art on earth karate kid knows every martial art across the Galaxy yeah sure why would he want himself disarmed
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Captain America I already have. Skyscraper, being thrown out of plane by War Machine, beating Crossbones without the SSS, getting shot in the head and recovering minutes later etc.
Only Karate Kid knows everything becasue he's from the future. If Batman knew everything he shouldn't ever lose fights.
I said Cap wouldn't let Batman disarm him. Where'd you get disarming himself from?
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Captain America I have stated I don't like Batman, but because of PIS and toxic fans rather than him as a character, but that doesn't make me biased. I can point out @Jon that you seem to be a hardcore Batman fan and can be biased in his favor, which facts hint you are, given from both me and @Tyrannus.
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Batman Batman wins in a good fight
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Batman Check this
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Captain America I love that scene. It's actually from the same comic where Bane was fairly beating Batman until Catwoman had to save him.
It doesn't mean however that Batman can never lose. He was talking about common thugs who say that
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Captain America Captain America wins. He is stronger, faster, more durable, has greater striking power (his shield), slightly greater willpower and is equally skilled. Batman is only superior in intelligence and having a large arsenal and Shield>Batarangs.

Oh, and @Tyrannus thanks for being reasonable.
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Captain America Glad your here as the voice of logic. These are undeniable facts. The SSS makes Cap far better
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Batman Batman is comparable in strength speed is more durable and can easily disarm i also give willpower to batman also did you forget batman is a better fighter
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Captain America Never been shown to be the case. You said they have same willpower but now your backtracking. You don't know if Batman is the better fighter but what we do know is Cap is physically better securing his win
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Batman Nobody is physically superior they are around equal but i give it to batman and we know batman is the better fighter Cap adapted to fighting styles he never mastered them all also Batman has beaten the best fighters of the dc universe
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Captain America They are not equal physically and it's a stretch to even call them comparable. Cap is boosted so it makes sense why he's better. No idea why you think it's Batman apart from bias.
Cap's arguably the best fighter in Marvel. Assuming Batman is better h2h it wouldn't be by much and Batman wouldn't be able to land a hit. Cap is faster and even if he slipped up, he can tank everything Batman has. Saying Cap has mastered nothing is plain wrong.
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Batman They are Psychically equals like i keep proving captain America is not the best fighter in marvel black panther gamora etc to name a few are better Batman would tank a hit Batman Sees bullets in slow motion so he could react to Cap and if batman Cant Hurt Cap then Cap Cant Hurt batman
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Captain America You always claim they're equal but never top Cap's feats. Even so it makes no sense. Cap is boosted, Batman is not. Because of that Cap can just react to Batman and counter. Batman can't tank as much as Cap. Until you show Batman has been boosted in any way Cap is still better.
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Batman I gave many feats wich show them equal but you ignore them that is terrible logic batman beats boosted people all the time cap loses to non boosted people all the time and Batman has a better durability so he can tank more
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Captain America Name feats that I haven't been able to top? Batman's also lost to boosted people like he consistently loses to Deathstroke.
Name all the normal people who consistently beat Cap.
Feats and facts show Cap has better durability
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Batman Dude the feats whe gave are around comparable . Deathstroke is superior to cap Batman beats bane
cap lost to hawkeye kingpin crossbones etc nope feats show batman having greater durability and pain resistance
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Captain America Holding up a skyscraper is not comparable to lifting rubble nor is taking hits from IG Thanos comparable to being hit by Wonder Woman.
So you agree Deathstroke>Cap>Batman=Bane?
Cap doesn't lose to those guys consistently and he's beaten them back at some point.
No proof Batman's more durable given that Cap's boosted.
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Batman Cap holded up a skyscraper because if his shield if batman had the shield he could do the same again the shield protected him from ig thanos no it is deathstroke>>>batman=>Bane>Cap batman has better durability feats
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Captain America The shield is as part of who Cap is. Even so it takes power to actually hold it up. Batman has never shown he can do the same.
The shield broke. I don't think you know what happened. If the shield protected Cap how did Cap lose?
You've proven your bias again. Bane has beaten Batman fairly before and if Batman can barely beat Bane, Cap definitely do so.
More empty claims.
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Batman Take the shield away and Cap Cant lift it give the shield to batman and he can lift it the shield protected him from the blast then thanos swiped the shield away Batman beated bane fairly Cap definitely don't beat bane edit for some reason the pic don't show up click on the white
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Captain America The shield helped him hold a wider space but you need strength to hold the weight. Something Batman can never do because he's not boosted.
The shield is part of who Cap is. Batman doesn't have the shield.
The shield shattered, it didn't swipe away.
Yeah if Batman struggled to beat Bane Cap definitely will.
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Batman Since batman has shown similar strength feats i don't see why he Cant do that with the shield boosted or not don't matter Batman has dragged something of 2 tons before it don't matter of the shield is part of who he is you Cant use that as argument for his strength thanos shot a blast then moved his hand to the right to Break it Batman yeah no ABC logic don't work always
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Captain America When I asked for similar feats of strength all you showed was him lifting rubble. How can you think he can? Cap's boosted Batman isn't. Batman doesn't have the shield, Cap does. Another reason why Cap wins.
Not sure what you said with the rest.
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Batman Ignore that Cap had the shield go help if batman had it he can do the same just Cant hold a wilder space . Th shield is irrelevant we are talking strength not something else so you Cant Bring it up. Batman has dragged 2 tons before
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Captain America The shield wasn't lifting the weight Cap was. Batman doesn't have the strength or the shield to copy.
The shield is part of who Cap is so is relevant. It helps him win.
The skyscraper was far more than 2 tons
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Batman When we are disccusing strength the shield is irrelevant give batman the shield and he does the same
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Batman When we are disccusing strength the shield is irrelevant give batman the shield and he does the same
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Captain America @jon stop making stuff up! Cap is far stronger than Batman. It wasn't just the shield he was using to support the building's weight. Besides, he has pulled down a helicopter, punched Wolverine through a car, stopped an elevator with his shield, lifted a large tree and dragged a telephone poll. He knocked out Nuke, who is bulletproof and kicked somebody hard enough to dent a bus. He is more agile, dodging bullets and lasers at point blank range, including blocking gunfire with his shield from multiple angles, while falling. His endurance allowed for him to fight after cutting the Zola virus out his chest. Batman's best non-PIS feat of endurance is probably fighting for extensive periods of time without food, which is nowhere near.
Cap is physically superior!
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Batman I never said it was just the shield bit the shield helped him batman has Enough strength do you the same his arms are only not big enough batman made a plane change direction with his legs beat a venom amped bane dragged a plane of 4 tons made hal bleed batman Sees bullets in slow motion and he can tag Speedsters and beat some batman got tortured for years by desaad and gave not up he Fought in a war for 37 years etc
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Captain America Your pretending the shield did the lifting and that Batman can do the same when he's never been shown to do so and cannot because he's not boosted. Your outright lying now.
Year zero placed Batman's age at 35 so to say he's fought a war for 37 is wrong.
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Batman The shield helped hold a wilder space with a shield batman can do the same batman and Cap are the same level he Actually did
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Captain America The shield isn't wider than Cap's arms actually.
You've never shown that Batman can do the same.
Actually did what?
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Batman He did the war also the shield helped cap
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Captain America When did he join the army?
The shield doesn't lift things by itself. It needs someone to lift it. It's not alive.
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Batman Yes without the shield cap can not lift it
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Captain America Actually he did. The shield doesn't give any lifting power.By your logic anyone who uses the shield can suddenly lift skyscrapers.
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Batman If they have the strength yes
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Captain America And Batman doesn't
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Batman He does
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Captain America No proof
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Batman I have
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Captain America What proof?
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Captain America Batman has beaten characters who are just as strong as steve, (Ex: Bane, Killer Croc, Deathstroke, etc)
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Captain America None of them are like Cap though except for Deathstroke and he's consistently beat Batman.
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Captain America Batman has never beaten Deathstroke in a fair fight. Cap is much more agile and more skilled than Killer Croc or Bane.
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Batman Bane >Cap also deathstroke is afraid of batman lol but yeah deathstroke>batman>bane>Cap>croc
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Captain America Why do you hate Cap? If you prefer Batman that's fair but then vote for Cap because he wins.
What's Deathstroke supposedly fearing Batman got to do with anything.
Deathstroke>Cap>Bane>Batman
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Batman Batman consistently beats bane this proves your biased
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Captain America Your just saying that now becasue I've proven your biased to Batman. Batman has beaten Bane but in fair fights he either loses, needs help or loses.
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Batman Batman beated a whole gang with villians including bane in some seconds after knightfall Batman usually beats bane Bane rarely beats batman
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Captain America Bane beats Batman fairly. When Batman does so it's usually unfair
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Batman Its the other way
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Captain America Batman lost to a naked Bane. Catwoman had to help him.
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Batman rebirth also batman beat bane while fighting many other villians at the same time
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Captain America Are you denying main continuity? Batman had recovered since then. Also if what you say about Batman is true then that shouldn't have been a problem for Batman.
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Batman Rebirth is linked to new 52 not post crisis
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Captain America Then why is it more similar to post-crisis than new 52
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Batman Because many people liked post crisis more then new 52 so they mixed them
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Captain America What I said is still canon
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Batman Yes
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Captain America Remember this
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Captain America No but I remember this
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Batman batman done the same
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Captain America When?
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Batman Featwise batman should stomp
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Captain America According to feats it's Cap who stomps
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Batman No batman
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Captain America No evidence
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Batman well you have also not given evidence in this comment
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Captain America I have to you.
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Batman i also
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Captain America You've never topped Cap's feats
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Captain America Cap has the better feats when it comes to speed, strength, and durability.
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Batman Really you could make arguments for both they are around equal
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Captain America You could make those arguments, but looking at it from an unbiased point of view, it's quite clear who is superior.
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Captain America One is boosted beyond human, one isn't
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Batman Batman is trained beyond human
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Captain America But not beyond the SSS plus years of training
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Captain America No proof
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Batman Batman has all the advantages against cap
Strength :- Batman
Durable :- Batman
Speed :- Batman
X-factor :- Batman
Combat :- Batman
Equipment :- Batman
Anybody has problem with it feel free to reply me
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Captain America We both know your trolling so there's no point
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Batman I barely troll , bt now im serious
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Batman So mordru>the presence isn't a troll?
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Batman That was said by ur favorite utuber , dont u agree with it?
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Batman No I just enjoy his videos, they have a lot of effort put into them, I don't exactly agree with every claim including that one, also because I've talked with parrot before and he's chill
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Captain America You've admitted to favour DC over Marvel and said that strength, durability and speed go to Batman. That's a troll thing to say considering Cap is boosted, trains and has far better feats
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Batman Lol in which comic captain America has tag being like reverse flash and defeated kid flash ? When kid flash was willing to kick batman, and when captain America has hurt and make bleed green lantern like being with his bare hand? When he has fought someone being like etrigan several times and give him a challenge ? Can u prove any near feats shown by captain America?
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Captain America Tagging speeders is PIS. If you seriously think he can do that normally then no wonder your biased. Cap can't do those things because he's Marvel.
If you want to look at strength Cap held a skyscraper. Batman can't do that.
If you want speed, he reacted to Hulk and Thor's attacks and avoided lightening.
If you want durability he's had his own suit explode on him and jumped out of a plane unharmed.
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Batman Reacting bto flash >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>reacting to thor whose attack was easily douch by spiderman , wonder woman, hurting green lantern bs his hand any strength shown by captain
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Captain America Like I said Batman reacting to speeders is PIS and it's only happened like once or twice. Thor is consistently fast. Your best feat for Batman is getting punched by GL. Wow
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Batman No that wasn't pis , he easily defeated kid flash , i said make a green lantern hurt and even bleed by his punch , fought against etrigan many times
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Batman Lol Thor is slow
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Captain America Prove that he's constantly slow!
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Batman He has slow reaction speed not travel speed
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Captain America Bruh,Did you know that reaction speed is always higher than travel speed? Think if Silver Surfer had faster travel speed then reaction speed, he would constantly be running into planets and stars because he wouldn't have the reaction speed to see them; same goes for Thor. Thor has also been able to consistently keep up with enemies who have dodged Mjolnir meaning that his reactions are greater than his hammer's speed and much greater than his flying speed. Now prove without outliers that he's slow!
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Captain America @mxy You've proven your biased. Your just voting for who you prefer not who'd actually win.
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Batman Yes his reacting speed is so much greater than cap he could possibly blitz him by his punch and knock him by pressure point and other attack
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Captain America If you think Batman can react to speeders them that's just bias I'm afraid. Superman himself can barely react to them and your telling me Batman can
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Batman He can react to slower Speedsters kid flash impulse etc
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Captain America If Batman can so can Cap but better
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Batman How ?
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Captain America Cap is boosted, Batman is not
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Batman Bane is boosted Batman still beats him
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Captain America Batman's beaten a non-boosted Bane and even then it was a struggle. When Bane boosts himself he doesn't become as smart. Cap is has the brains and brawn
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Batman he beated a boosted bane while fighting multiple other villians and won easily he also beated him multiple times on his own Lol bane with venom is still smart
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Captain America Like I said bane loses his intelligence and skill when he becomes boosted so it's a trade off. Batman usually loses or struggles against Bane in fair fights.
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Batman Bane is still smart with venom
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Captain America I said he loses intelligence which sometimes leads to his defeat
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Batman Only if he uses to much venom
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Captain America He usually does
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Batman You really an idiot
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Captain America Says the troll who can't vote Marvel
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Captain America Strength :- Captain America (DUH)
Durable :- Captain America(DUH)
Speed :- Captain America (DUH)
X-factor :- Even
Combat :- Batman (Small margin if any)
Equipment :- Batman

Captain America is the full potential realized. Batman is just super advanced as opposed to other humans. You must be trolling.
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Captain America This is how the fight would go;
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Captain America Deathstroke was distracted in that fight. Even Batman admits he wouldn't usually lose like that.
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Batman First batman was holding back and even then deathstroke said batman his punches did Hurt him so much and deathstroke>>>cap
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Captain America Deathstroke is not that far above Cap. You need to stop underrating Cap.
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Batman You need to stop overrating cap
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Captain America Don't reflect just because I'm trying to tell you a boosted soldier who trains all the time and has a superior willpower beats a trained man
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Batman Batman trained himself to the level Cap is and is still training and batman his willpower is superior
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Captain America He's not though because he has no powers. Show me proof he could do what Cap did
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Batman Since when does Cap have Powers ? The serum just enhanced his strength to peak human batman trained to get there
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Captain America Cap is boosted by the SSS. It's just his strength that's improved
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Batman Batman trained to get to peak human captain America got a serum batman is not just a trained man he trained to the same level of captain America and batman has superior willpower
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Captain America Also your treating it like the SSS is just steroids. It's not. It boosted you far beyond normal human capabilities. That's why it was so sought after. Cap is known for his will. Batman isn't compared to Cap.
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Batman And ? Batman trained himself far beyond normal human capabilities
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Captain America He can't force himself to do more than his body will allow e.g. he can't break a planet
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Batman Can captain America destroy a planet ? No then why Bring it up
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Captain America Did I claim Cap could do that? You claimed Batman can go beyond human capabilities. That should mean Batman can break a planet if he keeps training right?
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Batman According to you captain America can do that you said he is beyond human capabilities Batman is beyond them but he Cant destroy a planet
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Captain America I still never said that. Batman is not beyond that because he has no powers. He never will be
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Batman Powers have nothing to do with this captain America also has no powers
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Captain America Cap is boosted. He kind of has powers
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Batman He don't captain America got enhanced to the same level batman is
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Captain America Stop comparing Batman to Cap like that. Cap is boosted, trains and can do things Batman physically can't do
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Batman Except Batman has the same feats and better
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Captain America He hasn't been able to top Cap's feats.
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Batman He did
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Captain America When?
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Batman @tyrannus if ur debating , cap is boosted and batman is not so he lose , plz stop debating then
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Captain America @mxy If you believe that then why don't you vote Cap? Why do you want me to stop?
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Batman @Tyrannus just because he is boosted doesn't make him wins, he should surpass the batman feats which he can't
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Captain America He has. If you read what happened before you'd see.
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Batman he has not surpassed them
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Captain America I've already shown you he has. Stop pretending that never happened
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Batman And i debunked them
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Captain America How did you debunk Cap being stronger, faster, more durable, better stamina and having a quicker mind because of the SSS? Don't claim Batman reached that because you've never shown that to be the case
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Batman Batman consistently beats stronger charachters and win also Batman changed a plane direction with his legs lifted something about 10 tons dit speed batman battled Speedsters and won stamina around equal 1 hour of sleep is equal to 9 for him he has Fought 4 days non stop before
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Captain America Batman usually has help, prep or PIS. I know about Croc and Grundy but Cap is not like them.
I've already told you Cap's also changed a plane's direction. He's also held a skyscraper while Batman just lifted rubble.
Speedsters is PIS. 100%
Cap survived being frozen for decades then broke himself out.
All this proves how much better Cap is. Cap is boosted. Batman is not.
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Batman That's all false he beats those charachters most times on his own and calling it pis is just you Bring biased to batman sure batman preps some times but not against everytime Batman also beat bane who is equal to cap Speedsters is not pis batman won by stealth and strength Cap survived Being frozen so long because the serum changed his blood
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Captain America Your again just calling me biased because I've shown you are.
Batman studies before going into a fight. I've never seen him go in without understanding is enemy first.
Saying Cap is equal to Bane shows a lack of understanding given Cap would beat down Bane.
Stealth is not the same as reacting to speedsters.
The SSS makes Cap better than human which is why he beats Batman
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Batman He has beaten many villians on random encounters so what you are saying false Cap wont beat Bane when Bane has more things over cap . I said he beat speedsters not react it means he can fight charachters faster the, him and win . Terrible logic Batman is not just a man
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Captain America You seriously believe Batman attacks his enemies blindly without a plan?
What things does Bane have over Cap?
Beating speedsters by stealth doesn't mean Batman's as fast as them.
He's not a meta human therefore he is just a man.
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Batman Sometimes he gets attacked randomly so yes there are times when like deadshot was hired to kill him and he beat him or times when he knows someone planned an attack but dont know who batman dont prepares always He thinks of a plan during the battle. I meant being faster then batman dont mean you can beat him batman can beat faster charachters then him. lol he is metahuman mentioned by the comics
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Captain America He doesn't attack people who are stronger than him without a plan. Reason why Batman wins so often is he uses brains not brawn. It's why without prep he's going to lose to Cap. In this fight Batman doesn't have time to plan as it's a random encounter.
Pretty sure that's been retconned. Many fans complained about that because it ruined Batman's character.
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Batman That is not true he has battled killer croc with his fists beaten many of the best fighters beated bane clayface all without prep it got not retconned
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Captain America He'd fought Croc before at that point. Croc doesn't really need much to be taken down.
Cap's also beaten the best fighters around and even those who were better lost because Cap is physically better.
When was it officially confirmed by DC that Batman's a metahuman? Amanda Waller doesn't count because she just made a claim that couldn't be backed up.
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Batman And ? That matters he Broke his leg with a kick can you name some of these fighters the claim can be backed up by dionesium and his feats
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Captain America Shangi Chi, Wolverine, Daredevil and Iron Fist have all fallen to Captain America. He's physically superior.
Most fans don't like the metahuman part so I'm sure that'll be retconned soon as it ruins Batman
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Batman Shang chi Daredevil and iron Fist fair Point altough batman is a better combatant Wolverine did almost Break captain America with 1 kick and in another fight wolverine was outlasting him until giant man helped Cap
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Captain America Cap has shown dominance over Wolverine almost every time despite Logan having been around far longer.
I believe Wolverine cut Cap deeply in the leg which is the only fight where Cap began to lose. However Batman is not Wolverine so can replicate that.
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Batman The thing is batman and cape are Psychically equals except batman is smarter a better fighter and has larger gear
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Captain America Psychically (or mentally) I suppose they are equal but Cap is better tactically in a fight. Batman being a slightly better fighter doesn't help because of how much better Cap is physically.
Shield>batterangs.
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Batman Batman has more then. Batarangs like knockout gas smoke bombs electric gadgets he has almost everything
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Captain America None have worked in the past
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Batman What? What are you talking about ? What past ?
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Captain America Cap's resisted them all in the past
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Batman Batman his gadgets can oneshot An enhanced emperor penguin and send superman flying back he never resisted those gadgets
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Captain America What did he use on EP and Superman?
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Batman Electricity on EP explosive on superman His electricity has also affected zod
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Captain America The shield absorbs all.
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Batman Again batman first disarms second he could try 5 batarangs on his head while Cap is trying to block them he he uses his gadgets below him batman has also drones with feargas he can use
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Captain America He can't disarm him. You've been shown to be wrong many times now. Cap would block all 5 and then block those below because of how fast he is. Cap's shown resistance to gas before because of the SSS.
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Batman He can disarm him this proves you are biased to cap many People disarmed him before feargas is different you Cant Resist that except if you are insane
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Captain America Stop calling me biased becasue you are to Batman.
Cap blocks bullets all the time. You really think some batterangs are going to give him some trouble.
Your acting like many people have disarmed him which they haven't.
You don't have to be insane to resist gas.
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Batman Many People disarmed him Daredevil winter soldier moon Knight joker Scarecrow and batman are the only person who resisted the fear gas for Scarecrow and batman it's because its been used many times on them the feargas affected superman before
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Captain America Joker and Scarecrow aren't Marvel so couldn't have and Cap wasn't really trying against Winter Soldier. Daredevil is very different to Batman.
The SSS makes you immune.
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Batman Daredevil is less superior to batman in everything so if he can so is batman that's not how the feargas works it affected superman who is also immune to toxins and gas
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Captain America Batman doesn't have his radar sense and his perspective on things. Saying he's inferior is wrong.
If Superman got affected then he's not immune.
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Batman Batman has better Senses then Daredevil so invalid. Superman is shown immune to toxins the feargas is different then a normal toxin
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Captain America Batman isn't blind and ddin't have chemicals in his face. Unless Batman becomes blind he'll never have the same sense.
He obviously wasn't immune because he got affected
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Batman Batman has better Senses are you saying blind People have better Senses then People who can see?
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Captain America Daredevil isn't just any blind person. He has more. Saying Batman has better sense is wrong because there are some things only blind people can experience or feels to a greater extent
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Batman Batman his Senses are far beyond human capabilities also the fear toxins works on everyone
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Captain America But there nothing like Daredevil's.
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Batman They are
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Captain America Batman's not blind. Stop assuming he has abilities he doesn't
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Batman Never said he was i only said he has peak/superhuman senses
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Captain America You keep saying his senses are like Daredevil which they can never be.
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Batman They are comparable batman can smell emotions
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Captain America Lol no he can't. He's not a shark
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Batman He Actually can
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Captain America No proof
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Captain America Cap is stronger, but bats is faster and more durable, bats also has more versatily than steve, bats can also takes hits from darkseid where Steve got his ass kicked by thanos
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Batman Batman is stronger
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Batman Batman made a plane Change direction with his legs dragged something about 3 tons
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Captain America Batman has never been shown to be stronger. Cap is boosted so can do far more than Batman ever could.
Cap held a collapsed building. Batman can't do that
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Batman So did Batman and?
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Captain America Show me a scan of that?
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Batman https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/5/5c/14656.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160616030600 and https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/4/4b/Guiytu.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160616030629 and https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/1/19/Dsyru.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160616030705
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Captain America He lifted up a large piece of rubble. Cap as expected does much better https://imgur.com/a/XOxiR#0
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Batman and show me captain america make a plane change direction by his legs
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Batman Jongensoden you are correct. Don't bother about what that nooby @Tyrannus says
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Captain America @jong Holding a skyscraper is far better.
@booyah Says the person who's never given any evidence and just downvotes.
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Batman Yeah his shield was helping him so. ..
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Captain America No. If Cap wasn't there, the shield would absolutely not just stay there and take the weight. Captain America is simply stronger than Batman. It isn't a comparison.
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Captain America The shield is part of who Cap is.
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Batman No the shield helped him held it up
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Captain America The shield needs power to actually hold the building up. The average person can't do that including Batman
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Batman Batman is not An average man he could do that if he had the shield
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Captain America Prove it
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Batman How is batman An average man can a average man react to People Faster then light punch People trough walls survive explosions etc
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Captain America The last 2 examples make sense but not punching someone faster than lightspeed. That's PIS. If Batman could do that he should never struggle against other non-meta fighters
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Batman Batman is more stronger and durable
Changed my mind
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Captain America One has a Super Soldier Serum, trains and has far better feats, the other trains too but that's it. Who do you think wins?
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Batman Terrible logic batman has better feats
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Captain America It's terrible logic that Cap is clearly superior? You've never been able to top my feats.
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Batman Both are psychically in the same level i told you feats of Batman Being clearly superior
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Batman https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/GQIti160pFWug9RQvs9SRdckrxfNsEccceww49erM7I/https/i.imgur.com/4SOiOpK.jpg
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Batman Unless cap has did like this he will get one shot by batman
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Captain America @jong You've never surpassed my feats. You've only made claims.
@mxy Your links never work. Try putting [url] around it or actually sending the scan.
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Batman I saw somewhere that Batman got some sick MA skills and powerful gadgets like Iron Man
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Batman Why vibranium and abimantium is so overrated in this site ,they talking like people don't lose if they got any
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Captain America Who said that? They're the strongest metals but that shouldn't matter because it's who uses it that makes the difference.
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Batman LordTracer is the biggest Adamantium [email protected] on this site lmao
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Captain America Mmm, your salt is delicious. Also you, of all people, have no right to call anyone a w a n k e r, lmao.
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Batman I'm not salty at all lmao I could not give two ***** about your opinion mate
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Captain America You say that, yet you were the one that brought me up here when I haven't even been participating in any recent discussions here.
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Captain America @iFailedNNN Well clearly you do because you get triggered very quickly when called out on your nonsense
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Captain America Doesn't appear
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Batman What scan is working properly
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Captain America I said it doesn't work
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Batman Cap only has a shield and strength.Batman has that and he also has World Class bombs, vehicles, grapplers and many other things against which csp doesn't stand a chance. So to sum it up, stomp
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Captain America Cap only has a shield and strength? His shield one-shotted Namor, took the turret off a tank and more. None of Batman's gadgets can counter his shield. He has more than enhanced strength. He has enhanced speed, reflexes, durability, healing, intellect, is a brilliant strategist, highly trained soldier and skilled fighter and martial artist. He has defeated Cache, a man who mastered all the martial arts. He has beaten Wolverine and much more. He is an inspiring leader. Black Panther said that if you are on Cap's side, you can rest easy knowing that you are on the right side.
Captain America is far more than a shield and some good muscles.
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Batman What are you talking about Magnetic batarangs can counter the shield
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Captain America They would just attack themselves to the shield so Batman would end up disarming himself
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Batman the shield attaches to them
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Captain America The shield is far larger and barely magnetic if at all so the batterangs will go to the shield.
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Batman What about a magnetic exploding batarang wich blast the shield away
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Captain America The vibranium in the shield just absorbs it
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Batman Yes but Cap would get knocked back and lose the shield
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Captain America No that's not how it works. The shield absorbs kinetic energy so that Cap doesn't feel anything
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Batman He don't feel anything but the shield gets away
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Captain America Cap won't feel anything because the shield wouldn't move. That's how vibranium works.
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Batman Captain America would fly away and he would drop the shield
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Captain America Your not getting it. Vibranium absorbs kinetic energy meaning there is no pressure applied. Nothing is moving that shield unless Cap wants to.
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Batman Batman his gadgets have stopped An enhanced emperor penguin
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Captain America It wasn't made of vibranium/adamantium alloy though
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Batman His gadgets could also send Supes flying back
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Captain America Superman isn't made of Vibranium which absorbs kinetic energy
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Batman Don't matter such a blast could Knock Cap out
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Captain America No it wouldn't. You need to understand that because vibranium absorbs kinetic energy, no force is going to be placed on the shield or Cap.
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Batman If cap throws the shield batman catches it if Cap charges with his shield to him batman Jumps over his head and attacks him from behind letting his shield fall
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Captain America That shield has gone through tanks. If Batman tried to catch it it's go right through him.
If Cap for some reason blindly charges forward and let Batman attack him from behind, Cap wouldn't let go of the shield.
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Captain America @Jon stop making stuff up. You can't seriously believe that Batman could catch a shield that KOed Namor and went through a tank. Is Bruce more durable than either? He's not more durable than Cap, not stronger, and not faster, all the evidence points against these arguments of yours except for a few outlier, inconsistent and mostly PIS feats.
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Batman Many charachters have catched the shield without going through it and what makes you think he wont lose the shield you just call everything pis or outlie bit when captain America does it it's not your so biased
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Captain America People that catch his shield typically have superhuman strength and durability. Batman does not. You'd be biased to say Batman can withstand a weapon with the capacity to cut through tanks. It's true that many of the feats you are using to 'prove' that Batman is more durable are outliers.
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Batman You just said many wich makes it consistently and no outlier also according to you everything Cap does is no outlier but when batman does it is
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Captain America Because the feats of Batman fighting for extensive periods of time is just bad writting, as no human, not even peak human can do that, whereas Cap is low superhuman, and has more consistent feats of endurance that go hand in hand with his super soldier serum. You need to stop making stuff up. Cap is stronger, faster, more durable, and just as skilled.
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Captain America Now this is fact
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Batman Batman is also superhuman if it's consistently don't you Cant call it pis or outlier batman has as great feats as Cap it's a fact
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Captain America Batman isn't boosted nor has he surpassed Cap's feats. You claim he does but never show proof.
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Batman I gave some proof
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Captain America I've surpassed them all.
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Batman both feats we gave are around comparable just admit it both are very comparable except batman got the edge in combat intelligence and gear the rest is debateble
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Captain America It's unfair on Cap given he's feats and more importantly who he is. Cap is boosted to be beyond human meaning he'll always be physically superior and can think and plan faster than humanly possible.
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Batman the same can be said about batman
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Captain America No it can't because Batman has neither the feats nor the SSS to contend with Cap.
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Batman he has the feats are you trying to say everyone without the sss loses to cap
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Captain America His feats don't surpass Cap. Anyone without powers should lose to Cap
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Batman Are we doing this again many people without powers beat him
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Captain America You said that before but couldn't mention these "many" people.
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Batman i did crossbones red skull hawkeye etc
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Captain America You only mentioned Crossbones before. Red Skull is also changed like Cap and I've never seen Hawkeye
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Batman I showed you pictures of Crossbones also that was when red skull was not boosted and i can show Hawkeye
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Captain America Red Skull isn't like a normal human so it'd be unfair to compare him. These still aren't many people like you've claimed.
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Batman Hawkeye is not boosted
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Captain America Never said he was but he isn't many people. Your acting like Cap gets beaten by people with no powers on the regular. Otherwise Cap destroys Hawkeye.
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Batman Im just saying it's irrelevant if your boosted or not we need to look at feats that's what is important
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Captain America Do feats show Cap losing consistently to normal people?
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Batman yes but its irrelevant since he is not just a normal human
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Captain America What normal person who isn't affected by anything consistently beats Cap?
Is batman a metahuman?
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Batman I mentioned above . yes batman is metahuman
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Captain America Not anymore.
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Batman He still is
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Captain America Need confirmation by an official source. What's he's powers?
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Batman Regeneration factor
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Captain America All humans can heal
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Batman He heals way Faster a bit slower then deathstroke
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Captain America That's not too helpful then
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Batman Changed my mind batman is also stronger and faster
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Batman Batman is very fast dur to his very had traning and strength, will he can pick up more than 500 kgs
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Captain America Captain America is much stronger and faster than Batman.
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Batman Batman made a plane change direction with his legs and lifted something about 10 tons he also has tagged kid flash and reverse flash both speedsters
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Captain America That is PIS. He can't do that consistently. Cap can because he's boosted. Also don't claim Batman's boosted too just because he trains because Cap does that too and then some
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Batman its not pis he does it consistently Batman Trained harder then Captain america has ever done and if we are talking new 52 batman is boosted by dionesium but this is post crisis so dont matters
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Captain America Cap trains all the time and can push himself further than Batman could imagine. Batman's still limited by his own body. The new 52 point was irrelevant.
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Batman The point is Batman has trained way harder and we can see that by his feats who are superior
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Captain America I've already shown you before Cap's feats which Batman's been unable to replicate
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Batman I showed way better feats
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Captain America What feats have surpassed mine?
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Captain America @Tyrannus none. You are right. Jon is making stuff up by relying on a few feats that pale in comparison to Captain America's consistently superior feats of strength, speed and durability.
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Batman You said yourself before im using many outliers wich means inconsistent feats but that makes them consistently
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Captain America They make sense for Cap because he's boosted
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