The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification.
What it DOESN'T mean
This doesn't mean that a higher class would always beat a lower class character. But the bigger the difference in Class is, the more obvious it is who'll win in a fight.
How is this calculated
( INT^1.3 + (STR*0.5 )^2 + (SPE*0.5)^2 + DUR^1.6 + (POW + (SPS*SPL))^2 + COM^1.8 ) ^ TIER
Super Power Score and Level
Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. The level determines the final score, of the Super Power, being used in the calculation.
Fused with all of reality
defeated Glory wielding Master(Also how you stated Doctor wouldn't master the force when he mastered Glory, Lux Aeterna, Time Vortex and Key to Time)
The Doctor who merged with Type 1 TARDIS which allowed him to absorb all of creation
Turned Eternals, Gods who transcend Time Vortex and tore through it with their screams, Time Vortex itself transcends dimensionality into normal humans
And the same Doctor who defeated Gods Of Ragnarok and destroyed universal circus
Gods Of Ragnarok being the guys who created land of fiction which is place where all (allegedly)fictional characters exist in
And yet when you watch the show the Doctor has none of that power.
Doctor defeated Lampreys
Lampreys is a being who feeds on multiverses
@Vers05 Lol you tried to sideman in this debate and still couldn't get him to back you. The force doesn't care about Dalek armour.
@RatnikNaSjeveru2005 He doesn't really beat them using power, he uses his brain.
@RatnikNaSjeveru2005 Neither try to overpower the other using brute strength. In terms of traditional means of attack, the force can defend and redirect against it
@Tyrannus Daleks are type 5 galactic empire is type 2. It like modern day humanity vs ants
The sith used to be able to crush and drain planets. They can use precognition and protect against attacks. I still don't get why your using the civilisation type argument when that's never stopped them being defeated before. That's like me arguing Superman wins because of his knowledge of reporting.
@RatnikNaSjeveru2005 The 9th and 10th Doctor used to topple the Dalek empire within 1 or 2 episodes even though they'd been preparing for years.
I've been saying this the whole time that the Doctor beats them using his brains not brawn. That's why I don't know why you keep using this civilisation type argument.
The Inquisitors make several appearances, Sidious was able to take over the Republic while destroying the jedi order and Vader/Anakin made an appearance in every single Star Wars movie. These aren't one and done villains.
Doctor also said that to destroy a weaker Dalek fleet he needed to destroy solar system in proccess, also empire and Sidious is literally the most basic thing Doctor has faced
Type 5 means nothing. They still lose with far less tech than what the Empire had.
The Empire fell because Sidious made it too reliant on himself. When he died, it collapsed shortly afterwards even though it could have lasted several more decades.
The Doctor has never overpowered the Daleks using higher tech. Honestly what is your argument.
Lol no that's not how the force works. It surrounds all living things.
Doctor also defeated Omega while Omega had Eye Of Harmony
Higher tech does win in most cases, except when it comes to the Dalek Empire. Every time they've been defeated they're tech never saved them.
That Quora answer you sent was so biased. He showed all the Dalek feats but when it came to the Empire he's just show pictures of them getting defeated to be funny. In some stats comparison he'd just say "beat that Empire" without even showing anything for the Empire. It also mentioned feats from the Republic not the Empire making his answers even more biased. The Daleks are not always at war where as the Empire almost was. A complete lie. Also you shouldn't have to rely on other answers. If anything this hurt your case here.
The Dalek empire collapsed all the time. The Empire stood the test of time for 157 years.
Lol don't get ahead of yourself. You didn't win, I had to go to work. I'm back and I don't take Ls.
@RatnikNaSjeveru2005 An irrelevant feat
@Vers05 The Empire was established in 19 BBY and finally collapsed in 130 ABY when Darth Krayt took over.
What good is holding more land if you get destroyed so easily?
Yeah you've been listening to too many memes instead of facts. Stormtroopers were actually great shots. Obi-Wan even says so in ANH that the shots fired on the sandcrawler were too precise for sand people. Only Stormtroopers could make such shots. They let the trio escape the Death Star under Vader's orders.
The force works on anything. You have to be able to use the force to defend yourself against it. Daleks would crushed like tin cans.
I've sort of already shown feats of the Empire. They lasted far longer. They were led by dark side users and even after the destruction of 2 Death Stars they still held on for years. Lesser attacks on the Dalek fleet would have destroyed them altogether forcing them to build from scratch.
Being in the minority in votes means little. When I voted Thor against Superman I was also in the minority and now look who's winning. Lol I don't hate Doctor Who. I loved the show but stopped watching it after Jodie Whittaker. I found the show going downhill and I had less time for it. Perhaps your just a star wars hater maybe.
Why wouldn't this be Galactic Empire? How do you not understand that?
It wasn't really explained how he does what he does to the family of blood. He just traps them somehow.
@Vers05 And just because I voted Star Wars doesn't mean I hate Doctor Who. I used to watch it for years from the 9th Doctor to the 11th.
Really, that's your response. Doctor beats tin cans that self destruct so easily. Big whoop. Sidious would cry with laughter
You need to because it comes across that your scared I'll reply
I've seen you tag people before so the fact that you don't want to ping me if because your scared I'll reply. Its why I know you'll silently try and reply this this comment too.
And that's all insignificant compared to the power of the force.
None of that compares to the power of the force. Simply saying the force is trash doesn't make it so.
@yes The Doctor beats them literally every time no problem.
Darth Sidious was able to outsmart an order of beings who can literally sense your thoughts and feelings right in plain sight, overthrow a Republic which had stood for centuries while getting its own citizens to back his own dictatorship and then ran that Empire for years.
My man was ruling a galaxy according to the Hegelian dialectic principles in a universe where G.W.F. Hegel did not even lived.
And anything the Doctor thinks of will be sensed by the sith.
The Doctor is not omniscient. Now I know your exaggerating.
@yes None of that matters when you can pretty much read his mind and sense any move before he does it.
Not so easy for you now that you don't have @Vers05 backing you. Maybe that's why you worried about pinging me.
@yes The Doctor doesn't know how the force works so wouldn't do any of that. He'll try to think of a plan, Sidious would let him think that, and before he could do anything Sidious would fry him.
Also you do know by trying to make a fake plan, they would just be able to sense he's lying to himself to cover his real plan.
@RatnikNaSjeveru2005 Show me proof of that.
@yes No one likes a sideman.
Your basis on the Doctor winning is based on hope and assumptions that he'll find a way. That's not good enough. He's never seen anything like the force and would die before he could. He's never faced anything more powerful than that.
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/doctor-who-feats-and-source-thread.298198/page-8#post-14733231
They can always experiemnet on him to understad how he works. Lol the sith don't even make fire. You don't know star wars do you.
Yeah you keep saying these things would beat Star Wars but don't say them. This is why your entire argument is based on hoping the Doctor will prevail which isn't good enough.
Coming from someone who thinks the sith would use fire then yes. You are biased because you don't know who they'll be facing.
@RatnikNaSjeveru2005 You posted a forum of people's opinions. That's like someone else showing a link to SHDB as proof that Star Wars beat the Doctor.
Clone after order 66
Bounty hunters
General grievous
Battle Droids were able to kill jedi and guess what none of them have the force.
So i dont know what is your problem not understanding that daleks stomps. You didnt provide any feats for the galactic empire. You said that empire lasted for 157 years: In legends maybe. But this battle is cannon empire. CANNON do you understand or should i repeat it. Cannon empire lasted for like 23 years.
And it got destroyed by the rebels. You said that daleks lost every time. But you didnt say that no matter what they will always come back. They survived almost everything. They race was almost wiped out. And guess what. Even then they did come back and were a big threat. While empire got replaced by some morons. So dont say i lost. Because the only one who lost is you
The jedi served with the clones for years. They had no reason to believe their own men would turn on them, and neither would most people.
Bounty Hunters very rarely killed jedi and those that did killed novice jedi. Big whoop.
General Grievous had to be trained by Count Dooku (a force user) in order to know how to get past the force and even then he struggled.
Lol what jedi died to battle droids? There's only 1 and that was because he'd been fighting for months, had no food or rest and was outnumbered 1000 to 1. Also you tried to use a rhetorical question there but didn't leave a comma or question mark. It was weird.
Lmao you couldn't even spell canon right. You tried to talk down to me and it flopped. Even in those 23 years they lost 2 Deaths Stars and still lasted. The Dalek empire fell into ruin for far less.
The Rebel Alliance actually had little to do with the Empire's fall. Palpatine made it so the Empire was dependant on him so when he died, the Empire's leadership struggled.
The Dalek Empire comes back because of plot and they make for a good story. We're never given any explanation how they come back so quickly we just have to go with it.
I'd much rather have an empire that can survive attacks than an empire that falls apart at the slightest opposition.
You can't get past how fragile the Dalek empire was and then left the debate until I summoned you again. That's why you lost.
1. Can travel to diffrent dimensions
2.Can destroy planets like nothing
3. can travel between time and space
4. Has a weapon that can destroy all of reality
5.Has weapons that can destroy entire timelines
6. Has weapons that can destroy galaxies
One dalek can survive nuclear bomb.
force would't work on daleks based on their pshyliology.
Dont tell me i lost because the only loser is you. You just cant accept that galactic empire gets stomped by daleks. Instead of let go you just tagging us and provide 0 feats. We provide feats while you say:
1.Daleks gets defeated every time
2. Empire was dependant on palpatine ( Witch is a bad thing) since palaptine should have someone to replace him after he would be gone
You dont understand anything about civilization scaling and you trying to do i dont even know what at this point. So stfu
english man
Wow, all that and none of that was used on the Doctor who destroyed their empire how many times?
The only way to resist the force is to use the force so what you said wrong.
Lol you tried to leave the debate originally until I brought you back. How that somehow makes me a loser I don't know. If you think you're winning why you scared when I tag you? Its because you can't defend the Daleks because you know they lose.
You say all I say is the Daleks get defeated every time but you've yet to actually get past that.
The Empire's hierarchy isn't really relevant here. I only brought it up to explain why it didn't last longer.
Its spelt "which" not "witch". If you know how to spell you can know how to spell which.
Yes, I need you to speak good English.
You've been speaking English this whole time, its just been bad English.
"You English are all the same". What's that supposed to mean? That's kind of racist.
The Doctor doesn't beat the Daleks through brute strength or power. He just outsmarts them and watches them all self destruct.
The Doctor would fail immediately if he tried to destroy the empire. It only fell because Sidious was trying to turn Luke so got overconfident. Anakin was the chosen one so him fulfilling the prophecy and destroying them was inevitable. The Doctor has none of that.
I dealt with those feats. If he was so all powerful he'd never struggle in the show. In fact in the show he's no better than an above average human most of the time. Feats in the comics exaggerate.
Lightsabers aren't swords and Stormtroopers were actually great shots. Just goes to show your knowledge of star wars comes from memes.
The Emperor has accessed time travel as well so...
You can name all the weapons the Daleks have offensively but defensively their no better than a house of cards.
Given how I'm a fan of both where as you know nothing about star wars, its just you who's a Doctor Who fanboy. FYI, I've actually always preferred the jedi not the sith lol.
Higher-Dimensional Civilization: A civilization whose dominion and reach extends not only across numerous, if not infinite parallel universes, but also across higher-dimensional planes of existence and higher realities as well.
while empire is Galactic Civilization: A civilization whose territory extends throughout most, if not all of its home galaxy, containing many thousands if not millions of planets united under one government. Typically possesses means of Massively FTL+ travel, and technology capable of terraforming and destroying planets. Also force would't matter. I dont recall stormtroopers having force. Its a fight between ships, soldiers,. You have problem understanding about dalek power. Me and ratnik showed you feats but you just are moron who dont know nothing about civilizations. And dont say i lost because you debunked shit and didnt provide any feats. All you keep saying is the power of the force. You stupid force would't even work on daleks. force lightning would't work because daleks are armored. Their armor is literally a tank. Force Push also would't work because remeber i said daleks can tank nukes yeah. what next Force Choke also would't work because again dalek armor. Also daleks ships are faster more deadly. im done debating you.
https://www.quora.com/Who-would-win-in-a-war-between-The-Dalek-Empire-and-the-Galactic-Empire-Star-Wars-IV-VI
https://www.fanverse.org/threads/the-galactic-empire-vs-the-daleks.936379/
https://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/1rfpo2/dalek_empire_vs_the_galactic_empire/
Lol your still going back to the civilisation argument. Like I've said (nearly every answer now) the Dalek empire collapsed as easily as a house of cards so none of that matters.
Really the Empire could just said in any bounty hunter into the Dalek empire and sabotage them from within. We've seen it happen a million times before.
Ratnik doesn't actually agree with you so stop trying to put yourself with him. Fight your own battles.
And your a child who relies on memes to base his arguments. Nuff said.
Then act your age. You shouldn't have to send insults in a debate.
When in the movies could they not aim?
The Doctor gets through all the time. Last I checked he was a Time Lord.
The GE lasted for decades. Even after the loss of 2 death stars they still stood strong. It took the prohecy of the chosen one to destroy the sith which therefore led to the collapse of the GE. The Dalek empire has no prophecy to save them.
It battle between dalek empire and canon galactic empire.
Show me feats for canon galactic empire.
Also time is meaingless for daleks so that argument about GE lasted for decades is pointless
I was talking about the canon empire.
Like I said in my previous replies, the GE also had access to time travel. And it never really saved the daleks from calamity before.