Team The Daughter Of MortisvsTeam Superman Prime (One Million)

Team Superman Prime (One Million) The ones can only die if they are stabbed by the mortis blade. I don't think they have they can beat anyone on team 1, but I think RKT is the only one who can truly defeat them since he is omniscient and would know about the dagger.

Team The Daughter Of Mortis It's true that The Ones have never shown their power, but RTK is not even close to be omnicient, and The Ones are omnipresent, those bodies are just avatars of their real form, they embodie the Force itself, and so they exist everywhere and all of them are almost omnsicient.

Team Superman Prime (One Million) @Pedrof RKT is omniscient. Can you send me a link or something on the Ones being avatars. Never heard that nor could I find anything on it. Even if they are Avatars, the fact remains that the avatars are the ones that are fighting not the force itself. It's the same thing with like Darkseid. The Darkseid avatars don't have the power of true form darkseid they have the power of an avatar. So the ones, though they are the embodiment of the force don't have the full power of the force.

Team The Daughter Of Mortis You didn't understand what I tried to say. I meant that The Ones are the eombodiment of the force itself (The Son embodies the Dark Side, The Daughter The Light Side and so on), and that ones who were ''killed'' by the Dagger of Mortis are only their bodies, the proof of that is that Bendu and Ashla appers in rebels, they embodie the force it self, so they can't die, they do not have a bodie, they are made of energy, and only the death of the daughter's body broke the balance in the force at the cosmic level, and the death of the father's body caused the destruction of that universe outside of space-time, here I am only talking about pure bodies, nothing more.

Team Superman Prime (One Million) @Pedrof no I understood what you were saying. I'm saying that killing the avatars would constitute winning the fight, even if technically they live on. He is fighting the avatars, and the avatars are not omnipresent nor have they shown any immeasurable power.

Team The Daughter Of Mortis They aren't avatars, they are bodies that they use, but if RTK kills their bodies, which he can't without the dagger, there's still their "entities side" to defeat, and RTK cannot destroy the Dark Side or The Light Side. In TCW, they said that they embodie the dark and light side and the balance in the force.

Team Superman Prime (One Million) @Pedrof But I don't see what evidence there is that bendu is the father. Seems like a stretch. Isn't ashla just another name for the light side of the force?

Team The Daughter Of Mortis Ashla isn't another name for the light side, it is the name of the embodiment of the light side.
The Daughter = Ashla = Embodiment of the Light Side
The Son = Bogan = Embodiment of the Dark Side
The Father = Bendu = Embodent of the balance between the light and dark side, and so he has control over it.

Bendu in rebels says that he is the balance, so he is tje father, and also The Father's name is Bendu.

Team Superman Prime (One Million) @pedrof "those bodies are just avatars of their real form" ok.

1) RKT is omniscient and can teleport so he wouldn't have a problem getting the dagger.
2) Embodiment of the force does not mean that you are that thing literally. Embodiment is the tangible form of something. So the ones are a tangible form of the aspects of the force. So in a fight, defeating the ones is not the equivalent of defeating the force. I agree that nobody can defeat the force, but I don't think that is what this fight is. The fight is with a tangible representation of the force.

Team Superman Prime (One Million) @pedrof Bendu says that jedi and sith wield Ashla and Bogan, so ashla and bogan are just another word for light and darkside. Though bendu is the middle, he still has a notably different outlook than the father. I think it is important to note the difference between being the balance and being in the middle. The father wants to mediate conflict and the Bendu wants to avoid the conflict.

Team The Daughter Of Mortis @hbn The Father him self says that they are the beginning, middle and end, they're names are Bogan, Ashla and Bendu. Bendu and The Father are the same being. Also RTK only can see the present, past and future, he's nigh-omniscient and not omniscient.

Team Superman Prime (One Million) @pedrof he can control the present and see the past and future. Seeing the past and future makes you omniscient because you have knowledge of everything in all the past and in all the future. He would know about the dagger.
I've been able to find no evidence that Ashla and Bogan are their names. Nor do I think the Bendu is the Father, nor has he ever been confirmed to be the father. Nor does he really resemble the father in ideology.

Team The Daughter Of Mortis The Daughter embodie the light side, and The Son embodie the Dark Side, and the Dark Side is bogan and light side is ashla.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Daughter
The Father is Bendu, he embodies the balance beween the light side and dark side (his children).
Here The Father says that they embodie the force itself and that those are just bodies.

Team The Daughter Of Mortis And here Bendu proves that Bendu is the middle / Balance (The Father) and says that Ashla is the light side (The Daughter) and Bogan the dark side (The Son).

Team Superman Prime (One Million) @pedrof gosh you reminded me how much I love rebels. I still don't see what this proves. Jedi wield the Ashla (the light side of the force). Sith wield the Bogan (the dark side of the force). Bendu is the middle. To me it doesn't change that Bendu is not the same as the Father. They just don't have the same philosophy.

Team Superman Prime (One Million) @pedrof Ashla is not mentioned one time in the wiki you linked of the daughter.

Team Superman Prime (One Million) @pedrof The father is balance. Bendu is the middle. I see those as two very different philosophies. The father tries to mediate conflict, and bendu avoids the conflict. He's more like the third sibling who just lets the others fight it out. This is seen in the way he treats the galactic civil war. Whereas the father was actively trying to stop the evil of the son. Bendu wanted no part in stopping the empire.

Team The Daughter Of Mortis The proof is that in the Clone Wars they say that they embodie the dark, light side and the balance / middle, and in rebels, they use the name bogan to the dark side so bogan is the son, the name ashla to the light side so ashla is The Daughter and the name bendu to the balance, so he is the father.

Team The Daughter Of Mortis Bendu is the Balance, he is The father.
Ashla is the light side, she is The daughter.
Bogan is the dark side, he is The Son.

Team Superman Prime (One Million) @pedrof embodying something is not the same as being that thing in its entirety. Embodiment of something is an expression in a tangible form of something. The daughter is the embodiment of Ashla, she isn't ashla. Bendu identifying as as in the middle of the force does not mean he is the father. They are different characters.

Team The Daughter Of Mortis The Daughter is the embodiment of the light side, so the daughter is ashla. The Ones are the force it self, embodie = being the concept that a character embodie.

Team Superman Prime (One Million) @pedrof Superman is an embodiment of truth, justice, and the American way. That doesn't mean that he literally is those things. Embodiment of something is more like a representation, manifestation, or symbol of something. It doesn't mean you are that thing literally. That is not what the word means.

Team The Daughter Of Mortis Defferent universe. The Ones are the force itslef.

Team Superman Prime (One Million) @pedrof it doesn't matter the universe. The logic applies. Embodiment of something is not equivalent to that thing. That is not what the word means. The ones are not synonymous with the force itself but are representations of it.