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LordTracer
LordTracer 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Phoenix The Phoenix Force is outerversal. Divide outerversal by two, and what do you get? Still outerversal. Thor is universal. Multiply universal by ten, you get multi-universal. Emma exists and wins.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Thor (Warrior Madness) Are Phoenix Force hosts outerversal? And prove that it's outerversal!
LordTracer
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Phoenix Phoenix Force scales to abstract M-Bodies, which scale to Oblivion's M-Bodies, which are described in The Mighty Thor Annual to be outerversal.
LordTracer
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Phoenix Also the likes of Shuma-Gorath, Dormmamu (at his weakest), Galactus and more have outerversal feats and scaling, and the PF scales to them.
Dark_Wing
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Thor (Warrior Madness) Exactly where in that comic did it say Oblivion was outerversal and how does PF scale to it? And please tell me if Phoenix 'HOSTS' are also somehow outerversal because I'm pretty sure they're not.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Thor (Warrior Madness) And if Galactus is outerversal then how has he been hurt by base Thor and knocked out by Odin?
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Phoenix As Oblivion himself explained:

"Before the multiverse was... I was. At the end of all things... I wait. I am the void... The breath between life and death... Between death and rebirth. Between heaven and hell." transcend form -- and shape and substance.

"This body... This realm... And everyone and everything IN it... Are my Creations.
Return now to non-being... Feel the consciousness draining from you. Fell all that you are stripped away... Consumed. You are beyond loneliness. Beyond pain. Beyond even the memory of what you once were. Oblivion is all that -- and more. For unlike you... I have consciousness of what I am. I feel every ripple in the sea of eternal emptiness... Every ebb in the tide of eternal nihility. Death has his joys... As do Love, Eternity and the countless other cosmic deities who play their parts in the Divine Drama... But Oblivion... Has nothing."

Oblivion's M-Bodies have been matched by Infinity's M-Bodies, and she equals Eternity.

Phoenix Force scales because Jean and Giruad have abstract level scaling. Jean has been stated to be capable of controlling Eternity.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Z2D-wR1Kr-o/WJdsiq3TMNI/AAAvY/rYuFrZ3qSKcpnsVRSmLiR_NVzQKk64IeACLcB/s1600/x-men-forever-2.jpg

She embodies the growth that will surpass the abstracts.



And the growth that evolves into Eternity.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PajhXShtGjA/WJdsYagAe5I/AAAvU/5JVsxXPgbfwcO0yj4b0WAPqJh8g5-XpCgCLcB/s1600/x-men-forever.jpg

Giruad was able to wound Eternity.



So The Phoenix Force is outerversal, some of its hosts are, and Emma, who explicitly has 1/2 of it, is as well.

And even the weaker hosts have high hyperversal feats and scaling, which is still above Thor.
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Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix can i ask something wpotc is really above ig and just behind living tribunal
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Phoenix And obviously I was referring to a well fed Galactus, not a moderately fed one that was matched by Odin (who is high hyperversal and still above Thor) and obviously not a poorly fed one. This should've been obvious.
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Phoenix Also White Phoenix was stated to have scared the abstracts more than Dormammu and even Thanos with the IG.
Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix so white phoenix is above the ig ?
Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix i heard she was omniversal that is true ?
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Phoenix Yes, White Phoenix should be above the IG. And I don't use the term omniversal, so I can't really answer you there.
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Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix so basically she is above the others abstacts (eternity, nemesis, death...)
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Phoenix Pretty much, yeah.
Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix I really have to p i s s you off with all these questions so I think you want me to leave you alone and
and thank you for the answers :D
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Phoenix I don't mind the questions, it's fine. I like talking about The Phoenix Force and its hosts.
Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix that means i can keep asking questions
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Phoenix @Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps The Infinity Gauntlet should be below White Phoenix of the Crown although it's kind of debateable.
Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix if i understand white phoenix is the full power of the phoenix ?
LordTracer
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Phoenix Yep. White Phoenix of the Crown is equal to the full Phoenix Force.
Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix in avx wanda wanda was immune against the phoenix force and was able to beat magik and namor so chaos magic is more powerful than the phoenix ?
LordTracer
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Phoenix HoM Wanda was equal to The Phoenix Force. Wanda in AvX was shown to be beneath Dark Phoenix Cyclops.
Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix but she say "no more phoenix" she can reject him from an host
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Phoenix She needed the help of White Phoenix Hope Summers to perform the "No more Phoenix."
Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix i heard something like jean as wpotc was immune to reality warping true ?
LordTracer
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Phoenix I don't think so, she's never shown any such resistance as far as I know.
Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix the white room is immune to the reality warping...
Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix emma is garbage as the host
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Thor (Warrior Madness) Then why did you vote for her?
Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix because she already beat thor
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Thor (Warrior Madness) Already debunked that claim ⬇️
Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix Phoenix is wayyy superior to odin or thor
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Thor (Warrior Madness) That may be true for Jean or the unhosted PF but not Emma.
Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix yes but it is still emma with the phoenix sooo
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 y 11 mo 5 d
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Thor (Warrior Madness) Does it matter? When Thor priced superior to that? See paragraph below ⬇️
Scarlet_Witch_CurbStomps
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Phoenix it doesn't matter when an somebody has the powers of the phoenix he is he is practically omnipotent the chaos magic is the only weakness to the phoenix
Dark_Wing
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Thor (Warrior Madness) Okay guys remember that in AVX #4 Emma didn't manhandle Thor like everyone says she did, what actually happened was this: Thor was destroying her https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/thoremmafrostbattle3.jpg while overcoming her mind hax https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/thoremmafrostbattle4.jpg and even did this to her https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/thoremmafrostbattle6.jpg proving he's above her, the only reason he lost was because Emma caught him off guard https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/thoremmafrostbattle8.jpg, if you're going to be like Sora and claim "he wasn't caught off guard" then look at this https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/thoremmafrostbattle7.jpg dose it even look like Thor's expecting Emma to rain down on him? And even then she had to kick a heavily injured and dazed Thor six times to knock him out while Thor only had to hit her once to shatter her into pieces, proving Thor is both stronger and more durable than her in her diamond form. Saying emma was unharmed by this would be like saying Deadpool would be unharmed from a fight with God just because he healed from God slamming him between two universes. And the only reason she could even reform in the first place and she wasn't "feeling" any of Thor's hits (though she still took damage from them) was because she was in her diamond form which was stated to have that ability https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/thoremmafrostbattle5.jpg. I think the comic made it clear that Thor was above Emma given that she had to cheat to beat him. Also do you not think Thor wouldn't restrain himself against a woman especially one of class like Emma especially when it was stated in the comic that Thor didn't want to fight her while at the same time, the narrator describes Emma as "delicate" https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/thoremmafrostbattle2.jpg? besides it's not like he hasn't done that in the past https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d7d8191a86e4223e5246d38d9eb8e776.

If anything this comic reminds me of Hulk Let the Battle Begin with Thor proving superior to his opponent with casual ease but then losing because he was caught off guard.


In this match Emma will be more than twice as powerful because she was half the Phoenix Force but Thor will be 10X more powerful and won't hold back because of Warriors Madness. I really don't see my man losing this.
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Phoenix wins!
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Phoenix wins!
LordTracer
Phoenix wins!
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Phoenix wins!
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Phoenix wins!
Dark_Wing
Thor (Warrior Madness) wins!
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Thor (Warrior Madness) wins!