Obi-Wan Kenobi & Anakin SkywalkervsRey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL)

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) No. It's not. Luke solos with his eyes closed, both hands tied behind his back and both feet tied together. And that's not an exaggeration.

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) alright.

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) Like, you can't compare anyone from the Old Jedi Order, Old Republic or Clone Wars era, to Luke. He is explicitly stated, in series, to be over four times stronger than someone that matched the combined power of every single Jedi ever born before 11 ABY. He utterly bodied any Jedi born before that year, because he scales above all of them combined.

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) Revan» Luke (I think)

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) That is canonically false, Revan was a Jedi and was therefore present with the rest of the Jedi that DE Sidious matched.

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) Then
Luke (Most powerful version)» Revan?

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) NJO Luke > Revan, LotF Luke > Revan and Luke at his most powerful > Revan.

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) And Who are NJO Luke and LotF Luke.
What are the best feats of Luke without having defeated abeloth with help and having managed to open a black hole in his own hands?

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) The Daughter Of Mortis» NJO Luke and LotF Luke togheter?

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) NJO = New Jedi Order
LotF = Legacy of the Force

And I just mentioned one of Luke's best feats. In the NJO era, he defeated Shimrra Jamaane, who was stated to be comparable or superior to Darth Sidious, who matched the combined power of every single Jedi ever born before 11 ABY.

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) So if Luke »Darth Sidious and Darth Sidious has the power of all Jedi's that were born before 11 BBY this Luke should be much stronger.
And Abeloth must have been much stronger, too.

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) Quite frankly, you're out of your goddamn mind if you think Kenobi's even touching Luke, even with Anakin's help.

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) Luke is stronger than Obi-Wan using the force. I think everyone knows, but Obi-Wan wins because he is one of the best swordsmen in the galaxy.
Luke Skywalker (DE) is the strongest version of Luke Skywalker and this is not DE Luke.

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) That is a blatantly false statement. DE Luke is not the strongest Luke, FotJ Luke is. And this is FotJ Luke. Plus Kenobi is not that far from Luke in dueling skill.

Also Luke is over four times stronger than DE Sidious, who matched every Jedi ever born before 11 ABY in power. So Luke could kill Kenobi by doing literally anything.

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) DE Luke killed Abeloth.

Powers: Luke »Obi-Wan

Fight with light sabers: Obi-Wan »Luke

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) No, he didn't. Did you even read Dark Empire? Or the Abeloth saga, aka FATE OF THE JEDI? Hell, Luke didn't even kill Abeloth alone, he needed the help of Darth Krayt, who was equal to him, and Sarasu Taalon, who was stronger than him.

I could easily argue Luke destroys Kenobi in dueling skill. At the absolute least, they're relative.

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) @LordTracer if DE Luke is not his strongest version then what is it and why.
And clearly Obi-Wan is much better than Luke in the abilities with light knowing just compare the fight between Obi-Wan vs Anakin or the fight between Obi-Wan and Qui Gon Jin vs darth maul with the fight between Luke and vader.

For Luke and Darth Krayt to kill Abeloth did she have to be nerfed?

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) Fate of the Jedi Luke, aka, the one in this fight. DE Luke needed the help of Leia to beat DE Sidious. Luke in the NJO era, on his own, defeated someone stated to be comparable or superior to DE Sidious. In Legacy of the Force, Luke was stated to be four times stronger than that and Fate of the Jedi Luke is even stronger. Hell, DE Luke was still beneath Vader, as stated by Sidious himself.

You cannot use RotJ Luke as a comparison when this is very clearly not RotJ Luke. DE Luke scales to Sidious in dueling skill, and Sidious scales to Windu, who scales to Kenobi. Kenobi doesn't have any major dueling skill advantage over Luke. And I'm lowballing Luke's skill there.

Yes, Abeloth was in her AVATAR (which was still stated to be 12x stronger than Luke), she had to be nerfed, and Luke, Krayt and Taalon still barely beat her.

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) And what is AVATAR?

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) Avatar is not the true form.

Rey & Grand Master Skywalker (SWL) Ok.