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Soulcollecter57
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Goku & Orion A round robin, means every team has to face every other team.
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Goku & Orion Well, it looks like the bottom half of this page is officially broken, that makes things a lot harder any way, current score-
Team 1- 12 points
Team 4- 33 points
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not voted Oof, big rip
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Goku & Orion @ElectroSpino, if you can convince your teammate to let you take over, you'd be much better off.
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not voted Wait we moved on?
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not voted In Cosmic Odyssey #4 Orion contirbuted as 1/5 of the power to harm The Anti-Life Entity who is near omnipotent and destroyed the dimension.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/h31bkUUn-v_2KQz_pNldI6Ry_06xCj3iLv0ivH5PSgk56g_3zhl1WEXY2BgFzcGozuz6eZMJMbCy=s1600
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Goku & Orion It's a round robin, not an elimination, and we still haven't officially lost our previous debate as there is more to behold, but that aside, each debate only lasts 3 days, and the 3rd day was over yesterday.
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not voted So Spidey and I could get disqualified for debating early this morning (Around 4:30). I even posted a huge document of me debunking him
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Goku & Orion No, you are not disqualified, I said you two can continue to debate on it, but it won't count towards the final score, because it's overtime in a sense.
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not voted I'll be arguing why Sentry defeats Orion, I suppose. Link for feats (https://docs.google.com/document/d/14hLSot4FNwZEw6I5pvJSySbQBMmIPtczg_5HXO0Get0/edit?usp=sharing)

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before I begin I just want to clarify that even though some feats will be Void's, both have the exact same physicals, if Void can do something, it reasonable to assume Sentry can. Now the best feat I can find for Orion, is the fact that Orion was able to kill Post Crisis Darkseid (1A), which I would call PIS, since Orion is consistently around Superman level, and judging the fact that it was a prophecy that Orion killed Darkseid (8A), it would have happened regardless of power levels.

Now Sentry I would argue is more than a match for Orion physically. Now, I will only be listing Void feats when it comes to durability, since this is in character Sentry, so attacks by Void would be out of character, but durability does not matter with mindsets. Sentry has been able to casually tank hits from a non holding back Thor, as well as damage Thor (2A). Not to mention he even tanked hits from the Avengers while they were amped from Norn stones (and then killed Loki) (3A). To add to that Sentry was also able to stalemate World War Hulk. (Note: Sentry was incredibly unstable, and at a weaker state than normal) (4A), which both should have no introduction to their power levels. To add to his physicals, he was able to rip Ares in half (5A), and he has survived compete atomic disintegration. (6A). He even was able to contain a cosmic cube (7A).
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Goku & Orion You showed a picture of Apocalypse headbutting Thor and said he could kill Goku based off of that. Thor isn't Goku, that evidence is USELESS. The size of the Dragon Ball universe is the same as ours incalculable, so what you said is a fallacy The infinity gauntlet is limited to the Marvel universe, that is stated, Goku's power is the same in any universe because nothing says otherwise and if that's the case Apocalypse's power wouldn't apply to a fight with a Dragon Ball character, and if we start saying that nobody can defeat anybody and that's not how this works. They're are only 28 shown planets in the galaxy there are many unseen planets also, that is preposterous to think such a thing, when there are an uncountable number of planets in the dragon ball universe, just like our own, this is proven because Frieza is stated to have destroyed 58 planets in his life time, which is over twice as many as you claim there is, so that has been proven wrong. Secondly, you used a clip from a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT universe invalid argument, otherwise Apocalypse is only 1/6th the power of Black Adam, because his powers are based off Egyptian gods just like Apocalypse, that argument is a HUGE fallacy, debunked. And finally, it doesn't matter what language it is in all you needed to see was the numbers as they are the same through all the guide books, that is simply the same thing translated to another language, you just have no way of disproving it. And you still have never given anything to show how powerful Apocalypse is, you have yet to do that, and Thor's greatest durability feat is surviving a blast form 3 celestials, and Apocalypse is MUCH weaker than the celestials, so if makes sense it would not hurt Thor that bad, you still haven't disproved the fact the Thor was perfectly fine after that attack meaning it did little to no sufficient damage.
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Apocalypse & Sentry Apocalypse has defeated Ikaris who can crush the armor of a Celestial but Apocalypse tanked his attacks.
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Goku & Orion That is the equivalent of one celestial and all he did was crack the armor during a sneak attack, he was unable to defeat it. And that is simply PIS. The reason being, Odin with the Destroyer armor and the help of all the skyfathers got demolished by one celestial, and all of the skyfathers are above Thor in power. So if what you're saying is true, Ikaris is stronger than all of the Skyfathers and Apocalypse is above him, that makes no sense, because Apocalypse got killed by a weaker Thor who's full power is below that of Odin, that is a huge case of PIS. And that would also suggest that Cable is stronger than Odin because Cable has been shown capable of harming Apocalypse, it's PIS and now debunked.
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Apocalypse & Sentry Black Adam has a portion of the power of the Egyptian gods and that's why he got much more powerful during World War 3 when blessed from Isis. Black Adam was my second choice for the tag tournament if you remember because Apocalypse and Sentry are way overpowered. Goku is overpowered too but being overpowered in the animeverse which looks like a parody of the Marvel or the DC multiverses does not mean he is also overpowered outside of his continuity. And what you said about Frieza proves me right not wrong because Frieza is a galaxy buster and despite bragging about being more powerful than he actually is he himself admitted that he has destroyed ONLY 58 planets while our own galaxy is estimated to have over 100 billion. You know why? Because 58 planets are MANY in the TINY DragonBall universe. So I am going to refer to a Japanese anime like DragonBall Z again. Swampert stomps Electivire just like Apocalypse stomps Goku. Also Superman's durability compared to Goku's is greater than Darkseid's compared to Apocalypse so check out Superman VS Darkseid. Finally check out Horus VS Sanguinius. Goku physically resembles the Emperor but Sanguinius is the Emperor's son so considering the fact that Goku is not thousands of years old he should not be compared with the Emperor but Apocalypse who is over five thousand years old is comparable to Horus because Horus matched the Emperor who is thousands of years old unlike both Horus and Sanguinius at the Horus Heresy era. Horus got empowered by the four Chaos Gods just like Apocalypse was empowered by the twelve. The genocide of the Saiyans and its effects is also comparable to the Red Thirst and the Black Rage of the Blood Angels, the Space Marine Legion led by Sanguinius. I mentioned Warhammer 40K because it describes warfare happening at every corner of a galaxy far bigger than DragonBall's. So you also need a reminder of the Superman VS Goku deathbattle and the analysis of Saiyans not surviving in Warhammert 40K universe.
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Goku & Orion @AndreasVer, you have no way of beating me do you. Incase you didn't read, there is an UNCOUNTABLE amount of planets in Dragon Ball just like in Marvel. You have nothing of value, you have no bases that you are arguing, you are just spewing nonsense when none of it is related at all, you have no evidence for why Apocalypse wins, you have not debunked anything I have said you just continue with irrelevant nonsense. Your argument doesn't even correlate to itself. You can't prove me wrong so you go on a tangent about nothing. Explain how the hell does anything in Yu-Gi-Yo have to do with Dragon Ball... Nothing! They're is no relation in any way. Your arguments are very poor. You don't even understand when someone is alluding to something Apocalypse is not 1/6th of Black Adam's power I know this, but I was using it as an example of as to why your way of debating is badly flawed, let me use your logic against you, Broly resembles Darkseid because they are both large, and Goku resembles Goku because they are both Goku, Goku killed Broly, just like Goku will kill Apocalypse, even with your logic you still lose. You make no sense, you told me to look at Screw Attacks Goku vs Superman, which has been debunked by everyone and their mama, and then you tell me after I analyze it to "understand why Goku doesn't survive in Warhammer 40K" You are just all over the place, bringing up things NOT RELATED to this debate.
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Apocalypse & Sentry No what I said is not irrelevant. Goku has been compared to Superman and Naruto to Goku. Pikachu is the trademark character of Pokémon as Goku is for DragonBall Z and because of the fact that Goku is clearly superior to Naruto I compare him to Electivire which has similar to Pikachu electricity powers. Swampert has blue skin with black stripes just like Apocalypse plus Apocalypse is considered ugly and Swampert's name refers to a swamp which is dirty and therefore ugly. Swampert is coincidentally immune to electricity. As for Yu-Gi-Oh!, Kazuki Takahashi, the creator of the franchise, has admitted than he is a huge fan of DragonBall that has existed many years before Yu-Gi-Oh! so if Obelisk the Tormentor is Thanos/Darkseid, Slifer the Sky Dragon is Odin/Highfather and Winged Dragon of Ra is Galactus/Anti-Monitor then Apocalypse as a mutant equivalent of Thanos is the Wicked Dreadroot, the dark equivalent of Obelisk the Tormentor. Goku's combination of various Super Saiyan forms reminds me of Elemental Heroes so if he is the most powerful one, Electrum, then you need to shuffle more than 17 banished cards into your deck to be more powerful than the Wicked Dreadroot when it halves your ATK. Highly unlikely in a card duel. So Apocalypse beats Goku just like the Wicked Dreadroot beats Elemental Hero Electrum. As for the heart of the cards it is not working outside of the animeverse. Similar to the Chuck Norris facts not granting immortality to the aging actor. And Warhammer 40K is not irrelevent. Horus is the name of a god from Egypt where Apocalypse descended from. Horus studied the Chaos Gods just like Apocalypse studied the Celestials, who just like the Chaos Gods are extradimensional deities that are granting godlike powers to mere mortals. Blood Angels are the equivalent of Saiyans. Both races are becoming more powerful by near-death experiences.
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Apocalypse & Sentry And in response to your statement over Thor beating Apocalypse, Thor is holding back against Hulk and Silver Surfer who are much more durable than poor Goku while he would not hold back against such a malevolent monster as Apocalypse has been for centuries when Thor knew him while his friends were not even born. Silver Surfer is much more powerful than Thor and stomps the Asgardian but at long range when Surfer is not holding back. At close range Thor slaughters Surfer and Hulk but not Apocalypse who survived all their numerous encounters over CENTURIES. Plus Thor exists as a Yu-Gi-Oh! card too.
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Goku & Orion That's not an argument. You can't compare two things based on likeness, you need FEATS not similarities In saying that Superman has been compared to Goku, Mongul has been compared to Apocalypse, Superman stomped Mongul, just like Goku stomps Apocalypse. Apocalypse is a big villain and Goku is a small hero, Goliath is a huge villain and David is a small hero, David had the ability to one shot Goliath, just like Goku has the ability to one shot Apocalypse, your debating logic is FLAWED, because you can't compare two things with different power to each other. A verses debate which is what this is DOESN'T work that way.
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Apocalypse & Sentry Supercharged Jin Kazama

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Goku & Orion You are comparing Pikachu a little mouse with electricity that's not even wall level, to a humanoid alien with high power Ki based attacks and is universal in his base form. That's not how a verses debate works, it's terribly invalid. That same Pikachu can defeat Arceus who is the God of Pokémon if you use the right strategy, Goku can't defeat the god of his universe but by your logic he could. You can't debate that way. It's 100% flawed, and will not win you any debate at anytime.
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Goku & Orion Explain to me how the hell any of that relates to Goku vs Apocalypse, HOW, EXPLAIN, you know what don't explain, because it'll just lead to more nonsense, plus you still have NOT debunked anything I've said so until you do, I won't be bothered with responding.
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Apocalypse & Sentry Jin Kazama was Super Saiyan Blue in Tekken 5 which was a decade before Goku achieved his most powerful form which is the same as Jin Kazama's alternative attire. Both Marvel and Tekken characters have been introduced to Street Fighter but unlike Jin Kazama, Apocalypse was a boss and not a regular character. So Goku=Jin
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Goku & Orion (I'm moving all of this up here so it is easy to find) Well from the first two scans that do work, in neither of those is he dodging, he only reformed his body, not the same thing, Cyclops' laser are at most base light speed, nothing more, Goku is massively faster than light it's not a contest in speed. As a child Goku was able to outpace lightning which is 224,000mph or nearly 1/3000th the speed of light (1). So even if we use Goku as a child if we give him the multipliers as a super saiyan blue, he would be over 13x the speed of light as a CHILD if he went Super saiyan blue. His peak power level as a kid was 260 (2), but during the beginning of the saiyan saga he had a power level of 416 (3) which is 1.6x as powerful as before. so a total speed of 358,400mph. But then after his training with King Kai his power level became 8000 (4) which is an increase of 19x, so 6,892,307mph, you add on his Kiao ken technique which you used up to 4x, and he becomes 27,569,230mph, so if Goku during the saiyan saga went super saiyan blue he would be 1,102,769,228,000mph or 1644x the speed of light, keep in mind this is only for saiyan saga Goku, so he would be already massively faster than light if he peaked in the saiyan saga, so claiming Goku is only half the speed of light is completely inaccurate, especially when we get into the realms of super. (I'm starting very low, and will work my way up from here).
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Apocalypse & Sentry Just like the Infinity Gauntlet of Thanos not working in the DC universe, the anime facts that you are referring to are not valid when Goku faces a Marvel character like Apocalypse. For example Universe 7 from Dragon Ball only has 28 planets while our own Milky Way galaxy has an estimated number of over 100 billion planets. So any universe busting feat from Dragon Ball becomes much smaller comparatively when Marvel or DC characters are involved. Also Thor has much higher durability than Goku so what you said about not being hurt by Apocalypse's headbutt means nothing. Goku could die or be severely injured by something that does not hurt Thor. Also Goku's lightning dodging feat means nothing because at the end of the video he is still hit by the same bolt he dodged. Superman defeated Goku in the ScrewAttack deathbattle merely because of his superior durability. And because of anime comparative measures for the power of every Super Saiyan form of Goku being invalid I will post you a link from Yu-Gi-Oh! which is based on ancient Egypt where Apocalypse descended from. Watch the third minute of the video where Obelisk the Tormentor (Apocalypse) destroys Valkyrion the Magna Warrior (Goku). As for my last link where you said it shows the power of Goku and Beerus I retort that yes they are very powerful but not on Apocalypse's level. And you posted a link that is not English but French or something. I cannot respond to that.
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Apocalypse & Sentry Goku* VS Apocalypse
Orion VS Sentry*
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Goku VS Sentry*
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Apocalypse & Sentry Ignore this comment and its reply or I will violate the one comment rule.
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Apocalypse & Sentry Apocalypse can dodge kamehameha (1) & (2)
because kamehameha does not cover a large area from a distance (3)
and Apocalypse will know when Goku uses it due to his telepathy (4)
and then Apocalypse will dodge all of Goku's strikes (5)
because he dodges Quicksilver who is faster than light for being faster than radio waves (6)
while Goku's speed is less than half the speed of light (7)
than Apocalypse will kill Goku (8)
because his strikes are much stronger than those of Beerus that are hurting Goku, proven by the size of the shockwaves they are causing (9)
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Apocalypse & Sentry (1)

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Goku & Orion 3- The kame Hame Ha can travel much further than that, the only reason it only went that far is because King Kai's planet is very small and because Goku blocked it. It has been shown to travel well outside the atmosphere of Earth (1) and that was during the Cell saga, not even Super yet, nice way to use something out of context.
4- That literally proves nothing, Arch angle is one of his horsemen of course he can hear what he has to say, and telepathy doesn't matter because he will be right in front of him when Goku shots the Kame-Hame-Ha unless information in relation to this battle.
5- He managed to tag Quick Silver who isn't even light speed, and as I have prove Goku surpasses that easily.
6- He's faster than radio waves, good job, light speed is far superior to radio waves doesn't make him light speed, that's him highballed and even with that he is base light speed, as I have proven Goku is massively faster than that.
7- That is not evidence at all. That is someone's opinion, not comic book evidence so therefor invalid, and Goku was only jogging and that's before all of his later power boosts throughout the next 9 seasons and 6 season of super that followed good job, invalid evidence.
8- He headbutted Thor, good job but that's not Goku and can't be used, Thor didn't even take much damage from it, and Thor ended up winning that fight, invalid and out of context.
9- All you did was show the clip of Goku and Beerus fighting, that shows how strong they are, but does absolutely nothing to prove Apocalypse is stronger, that only helps me more, good job.
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Apocalypse & Sentry Apocalypse can dodge kamehameha
http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png
http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg
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kamehameha does not cover a large area from a distance
http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png
http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg
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Apocalypse will know when Goku uses it due to his telepathy
http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png
http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg
because
then Apocalypse will dodge all of Goku's strikes
http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png
http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg
because
he dodges Quicksilver who is faster than light for being faster than radio waves
http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png
http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg
because
Goku's speed is less than half the speed of light
http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png
http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg
because
Apocalypse will kill Goku
http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png
http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg
because
his strikes are much stronger than those of Beerus that are hurting Goku, proven by the size of the shockwaves they are causing
http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png
http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg
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Apocalypse & Sentry Apocalypse can dodge kamehameha @ http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png @ http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png @

because kamehameha does not cover a large area from a distance @ http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png @

and Apocalypse will know when Goku uses it due to his telepathy @ http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png @

and then Apocalypse will dodge all of Goku's strikes @ http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png @

because he dodges Quicksilver who is faster than light for being faster than radio waves @ http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png @

while Goku's speed is less than half the speed of light @ http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png @

than Apocalypse will kill Goku @ http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png @

because his strikes are much stronger than those of Beerus that are hurting Goku, proven by the size of the shockwaves they are causing @ http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png @
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Apocalypse & Sentry Putting the link between @ or anything is not working
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Apocalypse & Sentry Apocalypse can dodge kamehameha % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %

because kamehameha does not cover a large area from a distance % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %

and Apocalypse will know when Goku uses it due to his telepathy % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %

and then Apocalypse will dodge all of Goku's strikes % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %

because he dodges Quicksilver who is faster than light for being faster than radio waves % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %

while Goku's speed is less than half the speed of light % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %

than Apocalypse will kill Goku % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %

because his strikes are much stronger than those of Beerus that are hurting Goku, proven by the size of the shockwaves they are causing % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %
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AndreasVer
AndreasVer 1 y 6 mo 5 d
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Apocalypse & Sentry Invalid putting the link between % is not working
10earthquakes
10earthquakes 1 y 6 mo 5 d
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Goku & Orion Goku* vs Apocalypse
Orion vs Sentry*
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Goku* vs Sentry
AndreasVer
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Apocalypse & Sentry Apocalypse can dodge kamehameha % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %

because kamehameha does not cover a large area from a distance % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %

and Apocalypse will know when Goku uses it due to his telepathy % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %

and then Apocalypse will dodge all of Goku's strikes % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %

because he dodges Quicksilver who is faster than light for being faster than radio waves % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %

while Goku's speed is less than half the speed of light % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %

than Apocalypse will kill Goku % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %

because his strikes are much stronger than those of Beerus that are hurting Goku, proven by the size of the shockwaves they are causing % http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png %
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AndreasVer
AndreasVer 1 y 6 mo 5 d
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Apocalypse & Sentry Sorry I messed up again and I always posted the same link repeatedly.
AndreasVer
AndreasVer 1 y 6 mo 5 d
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Apocalypse & Sentry Apocalypse can dodge kamehameha
(http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg)
because
kamehameha does not cover a large area from a distance
(http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg)
because
Apocalypse will know when Goku uses it due to his telepathy
(http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg)
because
Apocalypse will dodge all of of Goku's strikes
(http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg)
because
he dodges Quicksilver who is faster than light for being faster than radio waves
(http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg)
because
Goku's speed is less than half the speed of light
(http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg)
because
then Apocalypse will kill Goku
(http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg)
because
his strikes are much stronger than those of Beerus that are hurting Goku, proven by the size of the shockwaves they are causing
(http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg)
because
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AndreasVer
AndreasVer 1 y 6 mo 5 d
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Apocalypse & Sentry Sorry this comment is also wrong so ignore it I'll post the right links immediately.
Soulcollecter57
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Goku & Orion Well from the first two scans that do work, in neither of those is he dodging, he only reformed his body, not the same thing, Cyclops' laser are at most base light speed, nothing more, Goku is massively faster than light it's not a contest in speed. As a child Goku was able to outpace lightning which is 224,000mph or nearly 1/3000th the speed of light (1). So even if we use Goku as a child if we give him the multipliers as a super saiyan blue, he would be over 13x the speed of light as a CHILD if he went Super saiyan blue. His peak power level as a kid was 260 (2), but during the beginning of the saiyan saga he had a power level of 416 (3) which is 1.6x as powerful as before. so a total speed of 358,400mph. But then after his training with King Kai his power level became 8000 (4) which is an increase of 19x, so 6,892,307mph, you add on his Kiao ken technique which you used up to 4x, and he becomes 27,569,230mph, so if Goku during the saiyan saga went super saiyan blue he would be 1,102,769,228,000mph or 1644x the speed of light, keep in mind this is only for saiyan saga Goku, so he would be already massively faster than light if he peaked in the saiyan saga, so claiming Goku is only half the speed of light is completely inaccurate, especially when we get into the realms of super. (I'm starting very low, and will work my way up from here).
AndreasVer
AndreasVer 1 y 6 mo 5 d
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Apocalypse & Sentry Apocalypse can dodge kamehameha

http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png

http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg

because
kamehameha does not cover a large area from a distance

http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png

http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg

because
Apocalypse will know when Goku uses it due to his telepathy

http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png

http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg

because
Apocalypse will dodge all of of Goku's strikes

http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png

http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg

because
he dodges Quicksilver who is faster than light for being faster than radio waves

http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png

http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg

because
Goku's speed is less than half the speed of light

http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png

http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg

because
then Apocalypse will kill Goku

http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png

http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg

because
his strikes are much stronger than those of Beerus that are hurting Goku, proven by the size of the shockwaves they are causing

http://i.imgur.com/T9Y3xKE.png

http://i.imgur.com/EFL4eia.jpg

because
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AndreasVer
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Apocalypse & Sentry My first comment is ivalid because I failed to post links correctly so please do not count it due to the one comment restriction. I used the exact same links when I corrected the comment.
Soulcollecter57
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Goku & Orion Tag Team Debate Tournament round 2:
Team 4 vs Team 1
@Soulcollecter57 (Goku) and @Manofpower (Orion) vs @AndreasVer (Apocalypse) and @ElectroSpino (Sentry)
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Soulcollecter57
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Goku & Orion Team 1 goes first.
ElectroSpino
ElectroSpino 1 y 6 mo 5 d
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not voted wait, is was @AndreasVer kicked out just for the previous debate, or the entire tournament? Asking because you wrote him down for Apocalypse, and you said in your message he was removed from the tournament.
Soulcollecter57
Soulcollecter57 1 y 6 mo 5 d
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Goku & Orion It was originally the whole tournament, but I decided to give him a second chance. But now he HAS to be active in this debate, if he is inactive for too long again, then he is permanently out, unless you want to do it by yourself. But he'll have to allow you to do so, you need to ask him, and if he doesn't respond in 1 days time then you will officially take over his spot, I was planning on debating Goku vs Apocalypse for this one, so I'll wait until you and him make a decision, but if it's like last time where he only posts one comment he is out of the tournament permanently, because that just holds everything up and it becomes a one on two.

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Alien_X
Apocalypse & Sentry wins!
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Goku & Orion wins!
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Apocalypse & Sentry wins!
Soulcollecter57
Goku & Orion wins!
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Apocalypse & Sentry wins!
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Apocalypse & Sentry wins!
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Apocalypse & Sentry wins!
10earthquakes
Goku & Orion wins!
Al
Apocalypse & Sentry wins!