Sub-ZerovsElsa

Created by _Holy_Joe_

17 wins (73.9%)
Sub-Zero (Kuai Liang) 16
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Official Superhero Database stats.
6 wins (26.1%)
Elsa 12
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Official Superhero Database stats.

Comments

CaptainAmericaTakesAll
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Elsa Elsa lets it go, and sub-zero is no more.
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_Holy_Joe_
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero Subs dodges her attacks and spine-rips Elsa's head off. Now SHE is no more.
Dark_Wing
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 4 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero @Tracer teleportation takes time to activate but so does Elsa's ice blasts and Sub Zero would notice the fight began a few milliseconds before Elsa and could use that amount of time to activate his teleportation.
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_Holy_Joe_
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero Uh, yeah. It doesn't matter if Elsa can throw an island level attack at him.
Dark_Wing
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero I guess it dose matter when you can dodge it.
_Holy_Joe_
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero Yeah, like...really easily.
Dark_Wing
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Want to help me debate that Captain America beats her
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 5 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Message to all Elsa fan: if guards can react to her ice blast https://youtu.be/afnhCvicqdI then a ninja with years of hard-core combat training can easily react to them.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 2 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Am I right guys?
_Holy_Joe_
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero Yes, you're right.
Dark_Wing
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Now I'm waiting for the angry tracer to come back.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Elsa Elsa is way more powerful, and we all know that.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Yeah but dose she have the skill


By the way @sora you never did answer why you'd rather be dr fate over the Spectre (go to your profile page)
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Elsa I answered.

Yes, she does.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero What do you mean she has the skill she has never been in a fight and normally sends ice monsters to do her work which A sub zero could easily defeat and B it outside help so it shouldn't be allowed
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @soratoumiga That's not even a reason.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Elsa Her being more powerful is not a reason? Wut?
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero She is more powerful but sub zero has every other advantage
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Not speed. Elsa's attack speed is faster than Sub-Z's movement speed.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero In attacking speed yes but in reaction speed sub zero is faster
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @soratoumiga Don't "wut?" me. Power has nothing to do with fights if you don't take it into the right account.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero That's what I'm trying to say
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Elsa Yes, I'll "wut", cause your speech made no sense. Power is one of the biggest, if not THE biggest deciding factor in a versus battle.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer Okay, speed police! Does Elsa have any feats like this?https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/9/9a/RCO006090.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20181223073948
I
didn't think so.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Theirs also intelligence and skill two things that sub-zero has an advantage in
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero @holy joe I was trying to find that pic where is it from
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Okay, calm down with the sarcasm. If you actually read the calculation that scan came from, you'd see that it's only Mach 12. Elsa's ice was calced at Mach 21 (https://web.archive.org/web/20160216200036/http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=33672). So yeah, Elsa is faster.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero @lord tracer where is this feat for her being 22 times the speed of sound
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Dude, it's literally in the link.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero The link just says way back machine you might want to try again
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Don't click on it, copy and paste it in a new tab.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero What do you mean copy and paste it in another tab
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Copy the link, and then paste it in a new tab, then it should come up.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero What do you mean a new tab
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa *sigh* Are you on a computer?
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero I pad
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa If you're in Safari, there should be a plus symbol or a square with another square behind it. Tap that, and it should open a new tab.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero It doesn't work Just show us the feat that you think is 22 times the speed of sound not the math
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Elsa can't do that in a normal encounter
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Dude, what? That's her normal ice speed. Unless you're saying she can't shoot ice in a normal matchup.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero How I'd sneezing her normal ice speed
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Because her putting actual effort into her attacks would be faster than her just sneezing...
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Okay but sub zero still teleports other than that what else do you have for me
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Teleportation that won't come into play since he'll get hit before he can use it.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero If she was going all out then that might be then end but A she holds back and if you say she isn't going to hold back then it wouldn't be Elsa vs sub zero it would be someone with Elsa's powers fighting sub zero and B sub zero can use ice shield to block attacks and an ice clone to freeze her

What do I need to say to convince you
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa How many times do I have to say it? It's a versus match, they aren't going to hold back as much as they normally do. And no, he won't have enough time to make an ice clone or shield before getting hit.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero *facepawm* what do I have to say to convince you

Sub zero has way more skill, he is physically superior, he has more versatility, he could use ice knives to stab and slice at her, he can teleport (I've said that numerous times but you keep saying he'll get speed blitzed) he has almost ever other advantage other than speed and raw power

What more do I have to say to convince you
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Absolutely nothing you just said overrides the fact that he will get blitzed. Even teleportation, he needs to activate it, which he won't have time to do.
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Honestly, I feel as if this won't go anywhere like with Wonder Woman v. Kratos, and I do not care about Elsa enough to want to continue defending her, so agree to disagree, I guess.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Okay you got me their but hey at least I can say this "He gets speed blitzed like 99 precent of the Star Wars universe if flash, Superman, green lantern, Thor, or any other high teir character showed up
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero One more thing Elsa would likely try to talk sub zero out of this that should give him enough time to teleport behind her and take her out

Diss prove that and I admit it you won
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 1 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @soratoumiga and @LordTracer Okay, it's quite obvious that none of you guys have played any of the Mortal Kombat games or even took the time to dive into the verse. If you did, you'd quit low-balling Subs and know that he's capable of far more than Elsa is.

First of all, has Elsa ever displayed any feats in martial arts? I didn't think so, so it's plain to see that Sub-Zero has a clear advantage over her.

Second and most importantly, he's got the edge in strength and durability, Sub-Zero has tanked in far worse than Elsa could ever imagine. He's survived Scorps' hellfire, double impalement, and even reconstruction by Quan-Chi. Subs froze a large building and shattered it in one punch, can shatter diamond blocks and titanium figures with a single chop, and even Lin Kuei cyborg in half.

If you honestly believe that Elsa has even a snowball's chance in hell against Sub-Zero, then I honestly feel sorry for you.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 1 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero People also forget that Elsa likely be holding back and vs match or not that doesn't change the fact that's out of character for her.
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 23 h 48 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa I literally explained why Elsa was superior in AP and speed with feats and calculations. Nothing you gave for Sub is: A. Island level or B. Mach 21. Find something that actually beats that, then you can talk s**t.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 18 h 39 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer No, you only displayed her ATTACK SPEED and DAMAGE LEVEL. Just because she's superior in those two categories doesn't mean she can beat Sub-Zero. And just because Elsa froze over the island of Arendelle doesn't mean she has island level striking strength. When you take her speed into consideration, she only has hypersonic ice speed and only subsonic reactions. That's a helluva lot slower than even Sub-Zero, who easily has hypersonic movement and massively hypersonic reactions and combat speed.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 18 h 27 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer And by the way, the speed feat I gave to you was actually a movement and/or a reaction speed feat. I haven't seen Elsa move at a speed like that, have you? I mean, sure her sneezes are pretty fast, but really, it's nothing new Sub-Zero can't handle.
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 15 h 55 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Damage level and attack potency are the same thing so... don't know what you're on about there. And I previously made clear that Elsa's attack speed is hypersonic, which you'll see if you scroll up to the previous comments (by the way, why'd you feel the need to bring back a battle that is nearly 60 days old?) Oh, and I can give the calculations for her having island level attack potency if you want them. And please show where Sub-Zero has ever shown massively hypersonic combat speed, because all I'm seeing is hypersonic, and a lower end of hypersonic than Elsa's attack speed.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 15 h 45 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero @tracer you do realize that Elsa doesn't have that great reaction speeds? So Sub-Zero could just teleport behind her and stab her. That and also you forget who Elsa is as a character, she would likely be holding back and vs match or not that doesn't change the fact that's out of character for her. In the movie Frozen, there is a scene where a few nameless guards were able to dodge Elsa's ice blasts, why couldn't Sub-Zero do the same?
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 15 h 44 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Durability feats does she have?
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 15 h 43 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer I'm sorry. You were saying?
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 15 h 39 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer Convinced yet?
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 15 h 37 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero @Holy_Joe it Is impossible to convince them of anything.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 15 h 35 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @Dark_Wing Was afraid you'd say that. You guys clearly lost your thunder here, Tracer and Sora.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 15 h 34 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Are you mad at me?
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 15 h 32 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @soratoumiga and @LordTracer Apparently, you forgot the fact that Sub-Zero could teleport, no?

streamable.com/xrji8
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 15 h 31 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @Dark_Wing No. I'm mad at Tracer and Sora.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 15 h 29 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Just because they like Elsa better?
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 15 h 27 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero "You should rally your companions rather than mock your superiors."

—Sub-Zero,
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 14 h 58 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Would you like to actually explain how those are massively hypersonic? You can't just give the feat a speed value like that without proof. Oh, and you being mad is your own fault, you're the one who restarted this debate.

@Dark_Wing I like Sub-Zero more than Elsa, actually. Sub-Z is one of my favorite characters in MK. And you really can't be talking about not being convinced.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 14 h 21 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer You've lost all your thunder in this debate it's not even funny. I'm mad at the fact that you don't seem to realize the advantages that Sub-Zero clearly has over Elsa. And I'm also irritated that you haven't provided enough, or any feats, regardless of speed and AP that shows how Elsa takes the win.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 14 h 18 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer And it's your fault for not providing enough or any evidence to back up your claims.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 14 h 14 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer Honestly, I can't believe you still think Elsa wins this fight. Do you not see Sub-Zero reacting fast enough to Scorpion's teleportation here?

static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111246824/5287148-scorpion%20fight%206.jpg
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 14 h 9 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer He's even frozen Scorp's fire kunais without the Blood Magik for goodness sake's.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 14 h 3 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero I'll see if I can debunk these before the angry tracer shows up. First off, Sub-Zero knew where he would most likely teleport, second, hell fire has never shown above building level feats in the Mk verse, third, reacting to someone while injured isn't even a sound speed feat.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 14 h 15 s
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @Dark_Wing Well, even so, it's more than anything Elsa's ever done.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 13 h 57 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Except for Elsa having hypersonic ice blasts.
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 13 h 55 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa I already gave a feat that puts Elsa at a higher-end of hypersonic and at island level, which gives her superior AP and speed to Sub-Z. And I gave calculations for both, proving those values. Something you've yet to do for Sub-Z. Teleportation is not a quantifiable value. You'd need to give an actual speed value to it. Also he didn't react to the teleportation. He reacted to Scorpion AFTER the teleportation was finished and Scorpion was just standing behind him. And again, you being mad is your own fault. The debate had been over for nearly 60 days. Who's idea was it to bring it back? Ah, yes, your idea.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 13 h 43 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer Yes, it was my idea. It was my idea to prove you wrong. All you've given me was AP and attack speed feats, and I've been showing you how Sub-Zero is fast enough to keep up with Elsa's attack speed. AP doesn't precisely factor with Striking and Lifting strength all the time. Elsa froze an island, so what? Does that mean she can destroy an island with a single punch or kick? No, it doesn't. She wasn't even in control of her powers at that time, you know.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 13 h 42 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer Not only have you low-balled Sub-Zero's speed but you haven't been paying attention to the advantages that he has over her, which I've clearly listed.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 13 h 37 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer It doesn't matter if Elsa froze over an entire island or has hypersonic attack speed. It doesn't factor into her overall physical strength or speed. Sure, maybe Sub-Zero doesn't have the same AP as Elsa does, but it isn't a problem for him due to his superior strength and durability. If she can't even throw a bone-crushing punch or kick at him, how do you expect her to win?
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 13 h 31 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero Just face it, Tracer. Your thesis is flawed. Elsa doesn't have the strength nor the durability to compete with Sub-Zero. Her only advantages are her AP and attack speed that you listed. Even with that, it doesn't mean she can travel at hypersonic speeds or shatter islands with a single blow.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 13 h 29 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero @holy_joe Just because Sub-Zero can break her arms up close, if she keeps at a distance she could blast Sub-Zero to death ( assuming this is bloodlusted). You haven't shown us that he is durable not to take that. And those feats for Sub-Zero aren't even hypersonic.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 12 h 43 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero Okay, look. Maybe I wasn't clear on the speed feats, but I wanted you guys to take cogitation over Sub-Zero's capabilities. My apologies for possibly offending you guys; I respect your opinions.
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 12 h 39 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Dude, one reply, please. Put all your info in one reply, if it exceeds the word limit I understand, but there's no way that does.

Except you haven't given any feats on a higher end of hypersonic that Elsa. You've claimed the feats are massively hypersonic, but you've given no proof for that. Also I literally never said Elsa's striking strength was island level, so I don't see your point, especially when it's more likely for her to use ice attacks as opposed to physical strikes.

Not lowballing when you've given no proof of massively hypersonic speed. And the other advantages don't matter when Sub's reactions are slower than Elsa's attack speed.

She wins by AP-stomping Sub-Z with an island level ice attack, and Sub-Z doesn't have Island level durability, so he's not tanking it. It's very simple.

Your thesis is the one that's flawed, because you're acting like Elsa isn't going to be using her long-range ice attacks and is going to use physical strikes instead. You're also bringing up movement speed when that's not even that big of a factor, as combat/reaction speed is the biggest factor in a fight.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 11 h 17 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer Well, to be fair, you didn't give me any feats supporting her REACTION speed nor her speed IN GENERAL. Besides, it's not like Elsa can just throw an island-level attack to one-shot Sub-Zero and expect him to not move. I mean, the guy's gotta fight, and he should be pretty fast to dodge it, right? Subs wouldn't simply let Scorps whoop him without using the Blood Magik. I don't see how Sub-Zero's reactions are slower than Elsa's. Even if the missile-dodging feats don't place him at hypersonic speeds, it doesn't purport he's completely slow. Let's say it was Sub-Zero throwing the island-level attack at Elsa. Were there any instances showing she could dodge such?


As far as the ice goes, I doubt that Elsa's powers would even faze Sub-Zero. Hell, he survived being frozen by Frost: static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111246824/5287152-resists%20frosts%20powers.jpg
Not
saying that Elsa's ice powers are useless, but I just don't think her ice has the ability to harm or even freeze him. Plus, we can't forget the equipment and arsenal of attacks or whatever. I know that Elsa can make snow creatures, but who's to say Sub-Zero can't do the same? He can make ice clones of himself which freeze anyone that touches them. Elsa might be able to make ice walls or even castles, but I've never seen her actually create any weapons out of ice. Subs, on the other hand, has fraggin' ice hammers and axes that might break through her defenses.

_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 11 h 13 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero Aw, shoot! It happened again. Here:

static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111246824/5287152-resists%20frosts%20powers.jpg
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 11 h 10 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero The blunt force of Elsa's attacks should knock Sub Zero out,
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 10 h 58 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @Dark_Wing Maybe, but it's not gonna kill him. Hell, have you seen how much blood this guy lost? i.imgur.com/CPogxuB.jpg

Sub-Zero's
tanked missiles, explosions, punches, kicks, hellfire, and even getting blasted and reformed into a minion while still conscious: imgur.com/a/ND0Q1

Sheesh
, he's even tanked the hits from Scorpion, who can rip heads off, punch through 'em, or even break 'em into pieces.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 10 h 56 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero Oh, freaking hell. Why does this always happen?

imgur.com/a/ND0Q1

i.imgur.com/CPogxuB.jpg

Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 10 h 17 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Resilience to blood loss is not the same as resilience to blunt force.
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 9 h 43 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa I'm not really seeing how any of that gets past Elsa having the vastly higher AP or Sub not having the reaction speed necessary to dodge her attacks. Sub is extremely skilled and relatively strong if compared to metahuman level opponents. He just doesn't have the AP or durability to face an island buster, and he doesn't have the speed to dodge her attacks.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 9 h 41 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero She wouldn't be using that high attack potency against another living being, why? BECAUSE ITS OUT OF CHARACTER FOR HER.
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 9 h 39 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa You keep ignoring the fact that this is a versus match, and in versus match, the characters:
A. Know they're in a fight.
B. Know they're supposed to win by KO or death.
C. Are actively trying to win.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 9 h 36 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero There's a scene in the first movie where a bunch of nameless guards were able to dodge her blasts, why couldn't Sub-Zero do the same? And you forget south character for her, is this bloodlusted Elsa or not?
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 9 h 34 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Are you implying Elsa was going all-out against them? Because if she wasn't, your point is invalid. And whether it's bloodlusted Elsa or not is irrelevant. She knows she has to KO or kill, and she's trying to win. She's gonna use enough power so she can win.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 9 h 30 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero She would likely try to KO him, when that fails (because subzero so much more durable than your average human), he teleports behind her and takes her out.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 9 h 30 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer You are seriously downplaying Sub-Zero here. You talk a lot of stuff for speed, and you still haven't shown me any feats of Elsa's reaction or general movement speed. So what if he doesn't have the durability to take it in? Doesn't mean he's gonna die from it. Where are your feats then, Tracer? Where's your display of Elsa having the durability, strength, or even the skill to take down Sub-Zero?
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 9 h 29 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero That's also her only combat feat, so that's how she fights when threatened.
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 9 h 29 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa That's... literally how durability works... if he doesn't have the durability to take the attack... he dies... that's how it works...
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 9 h 27 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Does Elsa have any reaction feats?
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 9 h 18 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer Oh, okay! So that's how it is then. You know what? You're absolutely right! Obviously, Elsa can beat an ice-manipulating grandmaster of martial arts who survived being burnt by fire up to 3000 F and an evil sorcerer who blasted him apart and reconstructed him WHILE HE WAS CONSCIOUS. Obviously, Elsa can beat an ice-manipulating grandmaster of martial arts that defeated fallen elder gods and near-death experiences from a guy who can COMPLETELY BREAK HUMAN SKULLS with an island-level attack, and "she's gonna use enough power so she can win". That's nice, I'll just agree with your logic there.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 9 h 15 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero @holy-Joe is the definition of right.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 9 h 14 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer Also, thank you so much for showing me how strong, fast, and durable Elsa really is. Not that I really needed to see it, but thank you so much anyway.
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 9 h 13 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa You know crushing a human skull is easy for fictional characters, right? Crushing a skull only yields 1.05931e+5 joules, which is like mid-end wall.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 2 mo 9 h 11 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero But it's more impressive than anything Elsa has done
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 9 h 9 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Freezing an island and yielding 8.62 gigatons, which is about double the baseline of island level, is far more impressive than a wall level feat.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 9 h 9 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer Nononononono, you're absolutely right. No need to convince me any further, since now ANYBODY in fiction can crush a human skull, regardless of strength and whatnot.
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 9 h 7 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa That's not even close to what I said, but you do you.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 2 mo 9 h 2 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero @LordTracer Oh, of course. Yes. Freezing an entire island while not completely controlling her powers is far more impressive than creating a giant ice explosion that freezes everyone: static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111246824/5287143-deffinetly%20amped%20ice%20explosion.jpg
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 8 h 58 m
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Yeah, it actually is. An entire-ass island is more than a radius that isn't even city level.
Bane333
Bane333 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Lol 😂
why are we even debateing,
It's a retarded Disney character, lmao 😂
Sub beats her to death with out useing any powers.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Don't ask me ask @sora or @lordtracer
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Ikr
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Y'all need to do your damn research. Elsa is Island level, Sub-Z is city level. Island >>> city. Elsa has the advantage in AP. Sub-Z does have much better combat speed and reactions though.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero But couldn't sub zero just teleport behind her and break her hands (so she can't use her ice magic) and finish her that way
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa If he can reach her before getting blasted into oblivion, sure. But considering that Sub-Z's movement speed is only Mach 12 while Elsa's ice speed is Mach 21... Sub-Z is taking an L.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero I'm pretty sure he is durable enough to take a few hits
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Well, he's not. Assuming Sub-Z is the highest end of city level (100 megatons) and Elsa is the lowest end of island level (4.3 gigatons), Elsa is still 43 times stronger than Sub-Z. So no, he's not surviving.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Okay she is that powerful I will give you that but...*deap breath* ELSA HOLDS BACK!!! so she won't be going all out and going to put an end to this quickly and also who needs durability when you can teleport
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa It's a fight, she's not gonna hold back anywhere near as much as she normally does. And really, who needs durability when you can teleport? That's honestly one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Teleporters need durability, otherwise they'd end up teleporting into a bullet or the blade of a sword or something and dying.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Okay I was being sarcastic when I said who needs durability but sub zero is still more experienced and (as far as I know) Elsa has never fought anyone dose she have any skill what so ever
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Skill isn't going to come into play when Elsa hits Sub with a blast 43 times stronger than him.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero But you still haven't told me what Elsa could do if sub zero teleported behind her and tried to take her down. I do agree Elsa is more powerful though
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa If he were to do that and somehow not instantly get killed, then yes, he could win.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero He could definitely do that. Mind you before sub zero teleports he would be in front of her at presumably 30 meters away. As soon as he teleports he would be right behind her and could use an ice knife to cut off her hands or just knock her out. Elsa isn't even peak human and sub zero is low superhuman.
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Elsa has metahuman levels of durability, actually, and the problem is that Sub-Z might not be able to TP before getting ended.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Not from knives which sub zero could easily make
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Elsa AP stomps, easily.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero No sub zero stomps. He just teleports behind her and beasts her up before she can do anything.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero @Lordtracer good meme
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero I don't get it
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 29 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero I kinda want to debate either @sora or @lordtracer on this
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 24 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Who wants to debate
Bane333
Bane333 4 mo 24 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero I no right.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 27 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Stomp
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 4 mo 27 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero Agreed
ElectroSpino
ElectroSpino 10 mo 20 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Sub-Zero Elsa has near zero combat experience, she really only creats walls and spikes, Sub Zero not only has far better control, but also is an expert fighter, far above anything elsa has shown.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 20 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Elsa Elsa can create life out of nothing. She can win.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 24 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero But that won't mater in a fight
Jakcj
Jakcj 10 mo 20 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero Sub-Zero is more colder.
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LordTracer
LordTracer 10 mo 20 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
2 year member
Elsa Actually, Elsa is colder.
Jakcj
Jakcj 10 mo 20 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero Well let's face it Sub-Zero is a ninja he knows how to fight better than elsa does.
jongensoden
jongensoden 1 y 2 mo 6 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
1 year member
Sub-Zero elsa win easy lol
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 24 d
Sub-Zero vs Elsa
Sub-Zero How?

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