Anti-MonitorvsThor

Anti-Monitor Because of sir spidey

Anti-Monitor Agreed

Anti-Monitor ikr

Anti-Monitor LOL 😂

not voted @SirSpidey vs the world. XD

Thor When has Anti-Monitor ever accomplished that? Even though it really doesn't matter because Mjolnir transcends time, but I just want to hear your response. Also, how can I be a Thor fanboy whenever everything I claim is fact? Explain yourself

Anti-Monitor @SirSpidey I thought you left this site?

Thor Yeah, I thought I did too, but this site is too fun to just leave. Also, why do you even care? Are you mad I didn't?

Anti-Monitor No, I was just curious. Stop getting so rowdy.

Thor What? Are you scared or something?

Anti-Monitor Scared of guy named SirSpidey that has a unnecessary obsession with Thor. Sounds like the stuff of nightmares.

Thor That's what you make it out to be

Anti-Monitor Just callin it as I see it.

Thor Same

Thor One, facts DO NOT care about your feelings. Two, facts are facts, even if you don't like them. Three, what are real facts and what are fake facts? I really want to know, I think it will be amusing to hear your response

Thor Hey, I'm not the only one who knows Thor would win

Anti-Monitor You do not know he would win you just think he would win.

Thor Who are you to dictate what I know and don't know? I know Thor would win and I have proven this using facts

Anti-Monitor You've said that Thor is more powerful than Anti-monitor, where is your proof. And don't say because he is more powerful than Galactus, Galactus is nothing compared to Anti-monitor.

Thor Do I seriously have to say this again? The Justice League can beat Anti-Monitor (which is fact as the Justice League have proven to be able to defeat Darkseid). Thor can beat Galactus (and countless other beings on Galactus' level and above) as proven by the comics, namely Thor #161. So with that said, Thor is more powerful than Anti-Monitor because Thor is more powerful than Galactus who is more powerful than the Justice League who are more powerful than the Anti-Monitor. Is it really that hard to wrap your mind around that?

Anti-Monitor Anti-monitor has easily overpowered the crime syndicate who's members equal the league when it comes to power.

Thor The Justice League can defeat Anti-Monitor. The Crime Syndicate can't defeat Anti-Monitor. How in the hell are they the same in power? Explain yourself

Anti-Monitor The Justice league alone can't defeat Anti-monitor they aren't even on the same level as him, as stated in the comics.

Thor Darkseid and Anti-Monitor are on the same power level. The Justice League has beaten Darkseid, therefore they can beat Anti-Monitor, as depicted in the comics

Thor Prove it

Anti-Monitor No you prove it. Everytime you say THOR solos.

Anti-Monitor No offense @TheSuspect666 nah I think you should prove it first, before anything bad happens

Anti-Monitor @Amirvel What do you mean? SirSpidey will kill me or? :D
And Anti-Monitor defeat the Spectre. And he destroy universes i don't know what Thor can do to him

Anti-Monitor Good point good point how bout you @SirSpidey

Anti-Monitor And @TheSupect666 did you confuse me with @Amirvel, I'm offended. No offense @Amirvel

Anti-Monitor @Percival ooo sorry men :D yeah i didn't see im so tired :D
tired

Thor @TheSuspect666: Anti-Monitor destroying a Universe is not canon and him fighting Spectre also is not canon. If you want my reasoning as to why I think Thor wins, read my comments below

Anti-Monitor Page 23 issue 1 in the Darkseid war comic literally shows Anti-monitor battling Spectre, it also says that he has destroyed countless universes. Please just go read the comic.

Thor Okay, but what happened in that comic didn't happen in the New 52 Universe

Anti-Monitor @SirSpidey Does it really matter whether it happened in New 52 or not?

Thor Yes because Pre-New 52 is not canon

Thor If it comes to that, Thor could just erase the Anti-Monitor's memory

Anti-Monitor Wait when has Thor been able to do that? (Note: don't wanna get into this debate, just wanna know)(Here's the right comment. Man I love copy and paste)

Anti-Monitor He hasn't, Thor doesn't have any sort of telepathy, simply telepathic resistence.

Thor No @Crazyjacky, he has. If you weren't so ignorant when it comes to Thor, you would know that Thor has performed this feat in Journey Into Mystery #89, #115, and in #123

Thor Until Anti-Monitor lifts the weight of the Universe, Thor is stronger by a vast margin

Anti-Monitor Wait when has Thor been able to do that? (Note: don't wanna get into this debate, just wanna know)

Thor Thor #494

Anti-Monitor Whoops I asked the wrong comment.

Anti-Monitor The Worldengine is not the weight of the universe, not even close.

Thor And by pushing the World Engine Thor would have been pushing the combined intent of both the engine and Yggdrasil. And the intent of Yggdrasil is to connect all the worlds in the Universe, as stated in Thor Volume 2 #83, meaning Thor pushed the weight of the Universe

Thor Not before Thor God-Blasts him

Anti-Monitor Thor cannot charge up the God bless that fast

Anti-Monitor Just admit it @SirSpidey there is no logical way Thor wins this fight

Thor Thor can do a God-Blast in seconds

Thor What do you mean? I am proving to you that Thor can do just as much as Anti-Monitor and far more. While Anti-Monitor would be beat by the Justice League, Thor decimates beings like Galactus

Anti-Monitor That's plenty of time for Anti-monitor to eliminate free will

Thor If Darkseid can summon the Black Racer before Anti-Monitor can attack him, I'm sure Thor could summon a God-Blast before Anti-Monitor could attack him. Also, unless Anti-Monitor is more powerful than three Celestials combined, his attacks are not going to hurt Thor

Anti-Monitor Okay what comic did Thor destroy a entire universe? NEVER or kill a god more powerful than Zues, or controlled death it self, or battled with someone as powerful as the Spectre.

Anti-Monitor The fact that he survived a direct attack from Death itself means the god-blast will not be enough to stop him.

Anti-Monitor Anti-Monitor: 70 Thor Odinson: 30
70 vs 30

Thor Half of that is not canon. Thor has defeated a more powerful version of Odin, namely Majeston Zelia who stole Odin's power, meaning she had her power on top of Odin's power. Thor has defeated Galactus. Thor has defeated the Void, also known as the all-powerful Angel of Death, and so many more

Anti-Monitor You managed not to answer any of my questions

Anti-Monitor And everything I've started is cannon

Anti-Monitor Stated*

Anti-Monitor @SirSpidey The God Blast taps into Thor's essence and soul. It is extremely taxing on him. And he has to channel it for much longer than a few seconds. The Anti-Monitor is more powerful than Arishem, who Thor used his Godblast against and it did NOTHING.

Anti-Monitor Wait, it wasn't Thor using his Godblast, it was Odin, Zeus, and Vishnu combining their Godblast against Arishem, and it still did nothing.

Anti-Monitor anti monitor can teleport the god blast can do nothing

Thor @remy94: All that means is that the Black Racer has failed before. On the other hand, the God Blast has always worked and will work on Anti-Monitor

Thor @remy94: Almost everything you say is not canon. Anti-Monitor has never destroyed a Universe in the New 52 and has never even laid eyes upon Spectre in the New 52. Two things in one comment that are not canon. Lastly, how did I not answer any of your questions? You asked if Thor has ever defeated a god more powerful than Zeus (by the way, DC Zeus is not as powerful as Marvel Zeus) and I responded by telling you Thor has defeated a being far more powerful than Odin. You asked if Thor has controlled Death and I responded by telling you that Thor has defeated the Angel of Death. How did I not answer your questions? Explain your logic

Thor @IamMoonKnight: This is also Thor without all of his essential powers. If Galactus (as in the creator of this site) would add all of Thor's powers to Thor's superpower list, Thor would be far above the Class Rank of Galactus (as in the actual character in the database)

Thor @Crazyjacky: The God Blast is NOT extremely taxing on the Mighty Thor. There are never any signs of fatigue whenever Thor performs the God Blast. Whenever Thor performs the God Blast, it almost looks as if he could perform another ten. Yes, it is a matter of seconds before Thor shoots the God Blast. Thor says a few words and then blasts the ever living crap out of anything the God Blast is aimed at. How in the hell is Anti-Monitor more powerful than Arishem The freaking Judge? Maybe Pre-New 52 Anti-Monitor is, but New 52 Anti-Monitor is weak as balls. He can be defeated by the Justice League. For the last part of your comment, In which comic does Thor God Blast Arishem? To my knowledge, Thor has only ever God Blasted one Celestial and that was Exitar The Executioner (by the way, Exitar is more powerful than the In-Betweener)

Thor @jongensoden: Galactus can teleport, but the God Blast still hit him

Anti-Monitor @SirSpidey I'll let the people here explain the Godblast isn't as powerful as you think https://comicvine.gamespot.com/thor/4005-2268/forums/how-strong-is-the-godblast-574394/

Thor OH MY GOD. LMFAO. Why do ya'll always use the opinions of random people from the internet? One, It just proves how limited your knowledge of comic book characters is. Two, you are trusting the opinions of users like The Grey Fox who twist around what the comics convey to fit their needs. Listen dude, when Thor blasted Arishem, it was NOT a God Blast, like I said. Thor was simply channeling the pure magnetic force from the core of the planet Pangoria into Mjolnir to produce a powerful blast, that was it. Thor did not unite his Life Force with the vast power of Mjolnir to produce what is known as the God Blast. However, he does use the God-Blast to destroy the Brain Dome of Exitar which Jostled the giant Celestial. This is extremely impressive as Exitar is more powerful than characters like the In-Betweener and for Thor to hurt a being like that is quite amazing. So in conclusion, the God Blast is as powerful as I thought it was. Using the OPINIONS of random people to use as an argument is not going to change my mind any time soon. Please, I would love to see you try again

Anti-Monitor You activated my trap card, good job, you told me everything that was argued in that Forum, so don't say I don't know my shit when you're just copying what other people said. And I don't listen to random people on the internet (like you) that would just be retarded. The only people I listen to is people who have proven their knowledge of Comics, unlike you.

Thor Dude, you sound so much like a nerd, *in a really nerdy voice*, "Oh guys, he just activated my trap card." Lol. Anyways, what exactly did I copy and paste that was from that forum? Because as of right now, all I know is that what I said in that past comment came straight from my own brain. It would be extremely coincidental if what I said was said in that forum verbatim. So, what I am asking for you to do is, copy and paste what you think I copy and pasted so that I can see what you are talking about. I only read to when The Grey Fox started giving scans. I honestly don't know what they said after that. Lastly, the only one who would be copying and pasting would be YOU. You are the one who gets your argument from random people from the internet because what you said on this website is practically the exact same thing The Grey Fox said on that Comic Vine forum. So don't be wrongly accusing someone of what you are being convicted of

Anti-Monitor anti monitor can teleport before tho uses his kidblast

Thor Anti-Monitor has never proven he can do this

Thor Thor is also immortal

Anti-Monitor False he ages slowly

Thor Not that you would know this, but Thor is always stated as being an immortal

Anti-Monitor Yes but the golden apples are also stated to only give a longer life span, to humans Thor may seem immortal but to a being like anti-monitor he is definitely not.

Thor An immortal is an immortal

Anti-Monitor The fact that Thor is only long lived means he is not immortal

Thor Except he has always been stated as being immortal

Anti-Monitor Than explain how in many comics you see King Thor as a much older version of Thor?

Thor Just because you grow a beard does not make you older

Thor Wrong

Anti-Monitor Right

Thor An army that Thor could absorb into Mjolnir

Thor Unless Anti-Monitor is more powerful than three Celestials, that would not faze Thor

Thor Unless Anti-Monitor is more powerful than three Celestials, that would not faze Thor

Thor No power in the Universe except Odin's can affect Mjolnir in any way

Anti-Monitor Well... except Thanos.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-73e4bd2afb1e4f3f13475be4aa03036b-c

Anti-Monitor anti monitor has reality warping and anti monitor is stronger thanos

Thor LordTracer: Which comic was this?

Thor @jongensoden: Anti-Monitor has never warped reality in the New 52. A character who is less powerful than the Justice League is not stronger than Thanos

Anti-Monitor I'm pretty sure it's Thor vs. Thanos. It's not on http://readcomiconline.to, though.

Thor That is because there is no comic named Thor vs Thanos. I did some research and the comic that your scan comes from is somewhere in between Thor Volume 2 #20-25 and Thor Volume 2 Annual #2000. During that story arc Thanos obtained possession of the Chalice of Ruins, Map of All Ending, and the Illumination Stone [here is a link if you don't know what those are: http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/X%27Hoss_(Earth-616)] which amped up Thanos' power level to where he had unlimited power over Death and to the point that the Universe was trembling in fear. So no, Thanos' power cannot affect Mjolnir, rather it is Artifacts that were created during the beginning of time that can affect Mjolnir. Which is something I did not know. Props to you for teaching me something new. Thanks

Anti-Monitor Actually, Thor vs Thanos is a real comic.
https://mobilestore.marvel.com/Thor-vs-Thanos/digital-comic/46264
Though, Thanos was buffed when he stopped Mjolnir, so he can't stop it normally. You're right.

Thor Yeah, I saw that too when doing my research. That Thor vs Thanos thing is just a long ass conjuration of the comics I mentioned previously

Thor Wrong

Anti-Monitor anti monitor is smarter and invurnable

Thor Thor is extremely smart and is also invulnerable

Thor When has the New 52 Anti-Monitor warped reality? NEVER

Anti-Monitor ore use darkforce manipulation

Thor Thor can also tap into the power of the Nether Worlds

Anti-Monitor anti monitor can kill thor he heals from every attack thor do

Thor Thor>Galactus>Justice League>Anti-Monitor>Darkseid

Anti-Monitor anti monitor has broken the fourth wall

Thor And your point is.....?

Anti-Monitor So Thor can defeat multiversal beings, what comic?

Anti-Monitor @SirSpidey You mean? Thor>>>>>>>>>>One-Above-All=Fulcrum=Presence=Man Of Miracles>Living Tribunal>>>>>Spectre>>>>>>Galactus>>>>>>Anti-Monitor>>>>>>>....>>.......
>>....>Agent Bob>Aunt May>>>>>>>>Darkseid?😕
Because I don't understand why is Darkseid so much weeker than Thor in your eyes.

Thor One, in which comic has Anti-Monitor and Darkseid destroyed the Multiverse. Two, if the Justice League can kill Darkseid, they can also kill Anti-Monitor who is on the same level of Darkseid. Therefore, since Thor is more powerful than Galactus, Thor is more powerful than the Justice League. Unless you think the Justice League can beat a fully fed Galactus. If that is the case, I really don't want to debate a fanboy like you

Thor @Martin: Because the freaking Justice League beat Darkseid and Thor is more powerful than Galactus

Anti-Monitor Ok that's your opinion

Thor Nope, that is fact

Anti-Monitor The comic is Justice league Darkseid war, first issue, Metron states that Anti-monitor has destroyed countless universes, also the League has never killed Darkseid. Thor is definitely not more powerful than a fully fed Galactus, that's just your opinion.

Thor So you think the Justice League could destroy a Multiverse? Oh ya, that makes perfect sense @remy94. How can Thor being more powerful than Galactus be my opinion whenever it is proven in the comics? You are just denying the facts

Anti-Monitor If you read further in the Darkseid war comic, it's mentioned that all of earth's heroes could do nothing to stop Darkseid and Anti-monitor battle because they were on a completely different level.

Anti-Monitor The fact that Galactus was not fully fed, means Thor is not more powerful than him.

Thor That still doesn't change the fact that the Justice League defeated Darkseid

Thor Dude, quit denying the facts. Thor beat a fully fed Galactus

Anti-Monitor Where does the comic state that Galactus was fully fed?

Anti-Monitor and he can absorb matter and has molecular manipulation

Thor @remy94: In the fact that Galactus was feeding on planets before his battle with Thor

Thor @jongensoden: Thor can also do that

Anti-Monitor Anti-Monitor >> Galactus >>> Darkseid > Justice League > Thor

Thor Oh, so Crisis Anti-Monitor is the same character as New 52 Anti-Monitor? The character who had trouble with Darkseid who had trouble with the Justice League. Oh ya, that makes sense

Anti-Monitor Yes they are the same character, Darkseid is on the same level as the Anti-monitor as stated in the comics, and the Justice League were only able to defeat Darkseid because they worked as a team.

Thor Lol, so Anti-Monitor is on the same level of the Justice League, as you just admitted. In that case, this is even more easier of a battle for Thor

Anti-Monitor If the league can barely defeat Darkseid, and Darkseid equals Anti-monitor that means Thor cannot defeat any of them since Thor has never defeated a character on the same level as Anti-monitor.

Thor So you are saying the Justice League could kill Galactus? Yeah no, that is hysterical

Anti-Monitor Anyone can defeat Galactus if he is hungry enough even Thor.

Thor Except when Thor decimated Galactus, Galactus was fully fed. In fact Galactus was leaving a wake of destruction from all the planets he was feeding on. That was the only way Thor and the Recorder could find Galactus

Thor He basically destroyed the equivalent of Odin

Thor Also, when has Anti-Monitor destroyed a Universe in the New 52? I know, NEVER

Anti-Monitor He destroyed Earth 3 in the New 52

Thor Earth 3 is not canon to the Prime Earth Universe

Anti-Monitor In the Darkseid war comic #1-2 Metron travels to a universe Anti-monitor had just destroyed. Plus when has Odin destroyed a universe?

Thor When Odin fought an amped Seth

Thor That's not canon

Anti-Monitor Most of us assume Anti-Monitor is at his CoIE levels. And his picture is not of Mobius.

Thor Still doesn't change the fact that that is not canon

Thor Anti-Monitor is on the same level as Galactus

Anti-Monitor Not so Galactus only devours planets, Anti-monitor destroys entire universes. Anti-monitor > Galactus

Thor Give me the comic in which Mobius physically destroys the New 52 Universe

Thor Yes, if you are talking about the non-canon Anti-Monitor, Thor might lose, but if you are talking about the canon Anti-Monitor, Thor could just God-Blast him for the win

Anti-Monitor Anti-monitor from the infinity crisis to the new 52 is the same, Metron reveals this in the beginning of the Darkseid war comics.

Anti-Monitor There is no non-conon Anti-Monitor. The Anti-Monitor is one of the characters that was not impacted by any of the reboots

Thor @remy94: If Mobius was the Anti-Monitor from infinity crisis, he wouldn't of had trouble with Darkseid or anyone else. After the detrimental reboot, Mobius was vastly depowered compared to his former self.

Thor @wolfdragon123: You have no clue what you are talking about, don't you. Every aspect of the DC Universe was impacted by the New 52 reboot. If Anti-Monitor wasn't impacted, prove it with evidence

Anti-Monitor The Anti-monitor of the New 52 is the same as infinity crisis Anti-monitor as the comics show. Anti-monitor had trouble defeating Darkseid because they are vastly equal as the comic states, he only won because of the anti life equation. Where does the comic state the Anti-monitor vastly depowered from his former salf?

Thor In the fact that he had trouble with a mere alien. Also, where in the comic does it say that the New 52 Anti-Monitor is the same Anti-Monitor as in infinity crisis?

Anti-Monitor Justice league the Darkseid war #1 Metron narrates about what has happened in the past, infinity crisis, flashpoint etc. Also Anti-monitor did not do battle with a mere alien, he battled with the God of Evil of the Dc universe.

Thor Key word, 'past'. Prove that present day Anti-Monitor has the same level of power as he had in pre New 52 . Prove that Darkseid is the God of Evil with evidence from the comics because the comics clearly dictate that Darkseid is a mere alien

Anti-Monitor Practically every comic with Darkseid in it says that he is a god, I don't understand how he is an mere alien if the comics always say otherwise.

Thor They say he is a New God, not a god. Darkseid was an alien farmer living on a planet before stealing the powers of the Old Gods to become a New God

Anti-Monitor "That's enough great darkness! It's time we showed the world that even a GOD can die" -Zeus (Wonder Woman 37#)
"But it's all worth it, after all it's not everyday you surprise a GOD" -Kaiyo (Justice league Darkseid #1)
Here are just a few random of many times he's been called a god.
Now it is your turn find me the comic that Darkseid is explicitly said to be a alien.

Thor Again, we have had this debate before and would rather not repeat everything I have already said, the word "alien" is never used to describe Superman, why should the word "alien" have to be used to describe Uxas? Darkseid is clearly described in Justice League Volume 2 Issue #23.1 as being an alien though, not a god. Also, just because a character in DC is referred to as a god, does not mean they actually are. Freaking Lex Luthor is referred to as being a god, yet we all know that he is a human being from Earth. This is because DC writing is so awful

Anti-Monitor So I'm not wrong in this debate, the comics say numerous times, Darkseid is a god. But you cannot except this for some reason, and continue to make excuses.

Thor Yes, you are wrong. I just proved you are wrong. Just re-read our debate in the Galactus vs Darkseid battle. I don't make up excuses, I use what the comics say and dictate to get my argument. If you don't like that, that is your problem and not mine

Anti-Monitor I am not wrong because I use exactly what the comics say, but as always you ignore this.
You are wrong because you assume things that the comics clearly don't say.
End of Debate.

Thor Nope, everything I say happens in the comics. It's just that you can't mentally comprehend what the comics are actually trying to say

Anti-Monitor More excuses

Anti-Monitor Sirspidey, I've read a few Thor comics, but I've never read one where he uses the god blast. Do you mind giving me a comic where he uses the god blast please.

Anti-Monitor Because I'm kinda confused on how powerful it is

Thor He uses this extraordinarily powerful blast in Thor Volume 2 #12, Thor Volume 1 #161, Thor Volume 1 #388, and a few other occasions. With this blast, Thor was capable of decimating Galactus, Zelia Majeston who had absorbed all the power Odin possessed, destroy immortals, destroy the Brain Dome of the mighty Celestial Exitar, etc.

Anti-Monitor @SirSpidey The fact that you say Thor wins every battle I've seen him in, proves to me you're a fanboy (Which I never thought was possible for Thor)
First: Anti Monitor is far more powerful than Skyfather level beings, which Thor is not.
Second: You keep talking about the Godblast, but for the amount of times he's used it, either it was ineffective, destroyed everything around him, or destroyed Mjolnir (which it did more than once, second time happened when he used it on Exitar)
Third: If you're counting the time Thor "killed" Galactus than might I say this: OF Thor was scared of even confronting Galactus with Alpha Ray Sill, you think he will stand a chance against a well fed Galactus? Give him the Runes, the Destroyer, Asgard's entire army, including Odin, Surtur, and Ymir and he still wouldn't win.

Thor Oh, I'm a fanboy for using facts. That makes sense. Since this is Thor Force Thor, Thor is far above Odin who is Skyfather level. When has the God-Blast proven ineffective? The God-Blast has literally always worked and will also decimate Darkseid just like it has done to countless of other characters. Correct me if I am wrong, but Mjolnir has only ever broken once when Thor used the God-Blast, but even then, it proved very effective. When Thor sent Galactus running for his life, Galactus was more than well fed. He was even feeding on planets before his battle with Thor. Lastly in which comic was Thor scared of Galactus?